Lovers of fast food....

Hey BT---DOES THIS FORUM REALLY LOOK TO YOU LIKE YOUR BEING STOPPED FEROM POSTING ABOUT FAST FOOD!!! Noones is stopping yopu from eating or writing anything you want--like i said---this IS America and we all have a right to eat any old crap we want---and as to posting here---well if your gonna post about CRAP food thats tasteless,boring,often prepared by people that have NO PASSION for food at all then youll just have to put up with us folks that happen to LIKE food---so to quote SOMEONE that posted here---GET USED TO IT! No matter what you say or what you think crap is crap and like i said before---argueing about which McDonalds has the best burger is pretty much a waste of MY TIME---so im not gonna argue with you or anyone else about Fast food---i KNOW that some people have a passion about food and THATS what im interested in! Eat all the lousy food you want--who cares---certainly not alot folks here---just dont expect me to agree thats all! I dont eat at McDonalds even if my best friend is addicted to them---i even sit in the car while he runs in to cure his big mac attack. One Meers burger is worth a 1,000,000 Big Macs!!! and your opinion---or anyone elses will not change that. Lifes to short to drink cheap beer and eat lousy food!

BTW--last i looked--IM the one living in the Red state!

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Originally posted by carlton pierre

I like the idea of a separate forum for fast food, chains, corporate food, whatever. Let those who participate in that ilk have their own forum.

Thanks---i know it makes sence to me---there are sereal forum that i dont look at very often for the simplw reason that it doesnt interest me and i think this would work well

BTW---we are putting Pergo in the new home too!

Ok......apparently the parable of futility of the Hatfield's and McCoy's flew over most heads, so I'm not going to bother trying to be less than firm about all this anymore. This topic should not have evolved into a fightfest. I would advise all to be more tolerant of one another and to quit viewing one another's posts as personal attacks and I certainly do not wish to SEE any personal attacks. As I see it, no one is ever going to see eye to eye on this and perhaps it's time for the Moderators and site founders to get together and decide what will be considered additional ground rules of topic posting. And to be honest, I'd really hate to see such happening, for it's going to be censoring things that really aren't all that important in the big picture, but constant childish behavior and tantrums have no place in such a site. Lively discussion is one thing, but geezey peezy, these verbal vendettas are just STUPID and make many uncomfortable and serve no purpose other to anger one another and make people feel bad.

My perception, (and this is MY PERSONAL PERCEPTION) is that Roadfood.com forums were a place where people could gather and find and discuss information on places NOT close to home. To be able to read reviews and get valid, helpful opinions on where a travelling wayfarer could expect to get a good meal while journeying through unfamiliar places. As we are all human, and enjoy other topics than just food, a section was developed for off topic and even for recipes. We all wander off topic, me included and most times I enjoy reading the derailings as much as I do the original intent. It binds us together in commonalities and like experiences, like the family we oft proclaim to be. BUT......then comes the hostile derailings, political agendas, nitpicking and sniping....and WHY does that continually happen lately? If you have a disagreeing opinion with another poster, by all means, state that you do, but do it respectfully and hopefully with a sense of good natured humor. Subtlety goes a lot farther in most cases with attracting people to your way of thinking or understanding it than slapping them in the face with negativity or whining that no one understands you.

I'm on my own in moderating the next few days, and have not discussed my viewpoints or impending actions with the founders or Mr Mayor. But while I'm babysitting the playpen for the next few days, this is the way we're gonna play together. I do not want to see another mention of red/blue states because the election was over, over a month ago and it positively has ZIP to do with anything that's being discussed at hand. It's time you win or lose gracefully folks, and get over it. If I see it....I'll either delete the post or close the thread. Also.......stop the sniping and personal mean spirited attacks. I'll delete or close those too. For now, until the powers that be pass on their views on what they want for these forums, those powers being the people who PAY for this site, I suggest y'all be more respectful to those who originally populated this site for the intent of it being exclusively chain-free and equal respect shown to people who do have an opinion on the worthiness of chain -fare, and basically agree to disagree until decisions by your hosts are made. I want to state again...This is the mode I am going to moderate these forums in and is not necessarily the opinions of other moderators and hosts, I have NOT discussed it in any way with them, and I am not trying to take over, but to try to foster some more pleasant and productive interaction amongst "FAMILY" as I best know how.

Thank You
Redtressed

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Originally posted by redtressed

I do not want to see another mention of red/blue states because the election was over, over a month ago and it positively has ZIP to do with anything that's being discussed at hand. It's time you win or lose gracefully folks, and get over it. If I see it....I'll either delete the post or close the thread. Also.......stop the sniping and personal mean spirited attacks. I'll delete or close those too.

CLOSE IT, DELETE IT I say because my point all along has been that this thread started as an attempt to sensor--or at least discourage--discussion of places not approved of by the person who started it and should have been closed down from the beginning.

By the way, what does Scott Peterson have to do with food (Oh, yeah--he will get a "last meal" in 20 years or so)?

Can we please get along? I read the Sterns and come to this site because I am interested in unique and interesting experiences . The Sterns have made my travels a gustatory delight., ans that has included delightful hamburgers at Conway's in Colorado Springs and at a local chain(Burgerville) in tje Portland-SSeattle area.
I would also say Roadfood experiences are available all over and it may occassionally call for a franchise experience. The former rock and roll Mcdonald"s in Chicago allowed my son the chain he craved while allowing me an experience. Finding that sort of place on Roadfood would be alright.
But for the most part, I believe it is best to look for roadfood experiences where we can find them., On I-5 betwee portland and San Fransisco, the Rice Hill exit has huge Umqua ice crean cones available at a drive-in just off the freeway, hubcap sized cinnamon rolls at Heven on Earth bakery in Azalea, Oregon, the Hi-lo cafe in Weed< California for local color and a passable breakfast, and the Olive pit in cConinf California with all the free olives tou want.
I would rather this web- site focussed on the fun parts of the road food fraternity. And I would like people to show respect for each other's opinion

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Originally posted by BT

By the way, what does Scott Peterson have to do with food

Well, nothing really. Maybe that's why it's in the "Misc- Off Topic" forum.

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Originally posted by tiki

BT--i have cruised I40 from Arkansas and Oklahoma to California countless times and believe me---you can eat solid top of the line roadfood all the way and never have to set foot in a chain---although i have tried those that i never saw before and the ones that have so many followers at a place like this--like Waffle House--there all ok--but i REALLY TRUELY LIKE REAL HONEST FOOD!!! I adore the slow food movement--i go ape over regional variations in commen foods--the fact that a little place just off the road makes its own cheese or smokes its own meats or grows the sweet potatos in thier pies truly excites me! A breakfast joint in the desert with a guest book that includes folks from blocks away from my home in Calif and my home town in Massachsetts and tibeten monks too and was started in the 50's by chinese immigrants is a treaure to me--or how about a family run ranch that has a place with killer huge burgers from longhorns---VERY low in cholesterol!!!--THAT THEY HAVE BEEN RAISING THER ON THAT LAND FOR ALMOST 1OO YRS.all of this and much much more are all along I40! The reason i come here is that i KNOW that there is always someone out there with a good meal for sale and if i come here--theres a good chance that ANYWHERE i want to go--i can find those spots--with the help of my fellow roadfooders.
I too have eaten at chains---i feel that i must--i have a rule in my house---dont bitch about politics if you dont vote!!! I'd be a hypocrit to complain about fast food/coorporate chain resteraunt culture if i didnt know it--heck ive WORKED IN IT--and besides---this is America and we can eat any old crap we want!---or NOT!

I am glad you mentioned this. Since my main artery of travel for my relocation from New Jersey to New Mexico will be along I-40, I am up for additional suggestions along this route, from approximately Nashville to Portales New Mexico!

Whatever you do, DO NOT stop for a meal at the truck stop on the north side of I-40 in Tucumcari, NM.

Unless you want to tie yourself to a toilet.

Dearfolk,
This reminds me of a manager I used to have at Peaches Records. His favorite food was hamburgers. Ric was very specific, however, about how he liked them: bun double-toasted; meat very well done (but not quite burnt nor singed); nothing else: bread and meat.
Now I happen to like my burgers medium-rare (or medium) with lettuce, tomato, mayonnaise, onion, and a dab of (preferably brown) mustard. (We made endless jokes about these preferences all the time we worked together. We'd go out for food on really busy nights and deliberately switch the burgers so he would get mine and I his. Fortunately he was a good sport!)
Neither of us was wrong; we're just as different as night and day.
I've got no philosophical axe to grind with chain eateries. My only comment regards them is that they have a "sameness" that renders most of them only marginally worthy in a Roadfood sense.
Precisely what makes Roadfoodworthiness is going to vary a bit from person to person, but to me it is the lack of sameness; something identifiably local or regional in character; something that comes with at least a small built-in sense of adventure. Give me a place where I don my invisible pith helmet and go on a food safari into the relative unknown, as opposed to any absolutely known destination!
Enough of my comments. Let me wish you all a great Holiday Season (any way you celebrate it). I'll be back to y'all in early January, if not before (IF I can catch the library open and it isn't 28 degrees out in mid-daytime!).
Unwanderingly (Until The Car Part Comes In), Ort. Carlton in Chilly Athens, Georgia.

Ort - how do you double toast a bun?

Stay warm in Chilly Athens, hear?

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Originally posted by Ort. Carlton.

My only comment regards them is that they have a "sameness" that renders most of them only marginally worthy in a Roadfood sense.
Precisely what makes Roadfoodworthiness is going to vary a bit from person to person, but to me it is the lack of sameness; something identifiably local or regional in character; something that comes with at least a small built-in sense of adventure.

Amen.

A fast-food forum? Ok--I will confess. I do occasionally eat at a fast-food place. Sometimes it is just for the sake of convenience and for speed of service. Sometimes (luckily, not that often) I will get a craving for some of the fat-laden stuff that they serve.

However, I have to tell you that what drives my choice of fast-food places more than anything else is cleanliness. Now, this may be unique to the NY/NJ/PA area, but I have found that Burger Kings invariably have very poor standards of cleanliness in their restrooms. Occasionally, I have found this at a McDonald's (Reading, PA comes to mind--filthy and no soap!), but Burger King seems pretty consistent in the ick factor. Wendy's seems to be pretty consistent in terms of good hygiene.

When I stop at a fast-food place, I stop in the men's room before I order anything. If the place is dirty, and especially if there is no soap, I leave and go elsewhere. Just think--do you want someone who was not able to use soap after their bathroom visit to be handling tomatoes, lettuce, and other food items that are not cooked, and that then wind up on your sandwich?

I didn't even bother to read more than the first 2 posts. All I will say is that this is the sight that's front page asked me not to long ago if I "supersize it". Hmmmmm.

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Originally posted by Lone Star

Ort - how do you double toast a bun?

Lone Star,
The uncopyrighted Ric technique was to set the toaster for a medium-light setting, then toast the bun twice. "Perfect," he'd purr.
Toasting it twice on medium was too crispy for his taste, as was once through on the maximum setting. A few notches back from medium... closer by far to medium than to light... and running the bun through twice, that was the perfect trick. "Just right every time," he would smile.
Untoastedly Myself, Ort. Carlton in Medium-Light Athens, Georgia.

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Originally posted by wanderingjew

Today, we are going to talk about Pergo Floors. I had mine installed in my condo about 3 months ago. I actually completed some renovations in my condo including tearing down a few walls, painting and also had a new kitchen counter put in. I got a really good deal on the labor because the condo's maintenance manager who did the work also does contracting work. Anyway, I got the Beech Block pergo floors. it's amazing how much they look like real wood. I had them installed in my kitchen, dining room and hallway. They look really good and apparently have a 20 or 25 year warantee. Who else likes pergo floors, who has them and what do you think of them??

Oh, what relevance does this have to road food?? Every bit of relevance- Ask BT~!!!

I am saddened that this poster does not appear to understand the philosophy of this site. pergo floors are manufactured by a large multinational corporation with multiple locations.
In fact it is not real wood flooring at all. It is a laminate product preformed and "baked" at a centfal facility and then shipped to various locations around the world.The pergo flooring ordered by the poster in Rhode Island is identical to that which is found on the vast prairies of Nebraska , in warm, expensive San Diego or in the Bean-free zone of Texas. There is nothing about it expressing the regional diversity of America which this site attempts to celebrate (Actually Pergo is headquartered in Sweden, which perhaps explains the products curious resemblence to lutefisk)
I am sure that if the poster would have bothered to investigate he could have found a small family-run establishment nearby from whom he could have ordered an authentic wood floor,made from sustainably harvested local hardwood and installed according to local standards of craftmanship.Unfortunately instead of charting his own idiosyncratic course he chose to shelter in the safe harbor of corporate brandsmanship secure in the lonely crowd of conformists.
Brookquarry in satirically challenged Pennsylvania

HA!

Thank you brook!

My floors are by Mannington. Does that make me a lutefisk/pergo lemming too?

brook, that was classic. D*mn you for being funnier than me!!