Mission Accomplished

May 1st is a day you might want to commemorate is some fashion suitable to your own views on the subject - it is the 4th anniversary of the day our President , toted up in full military regalia, stood on the deck of an aircraft carrier emblazoned with the White House provided banner, "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED", and assured us that "major combat is ended". Since that infamous day, 3,327 American service members have died in combat, over 25,000 have been wounded, about 100,000 Iraquis have died, a trillion dollars has gone down the drain, America is distrusted throughout the World, and our nation is divided as never since the Civil War.

Cheers, John

My how time flies.

Mission acomplished-despot removed from power.

Major combat ended-an IED is not major combat. The major combat is over, DUH. Are Naval Aviators or AF pilots engaging hostile aircraft? Are M1A1s or Bradleys advancing in even platoon strength against ANY armour? Is a batallion moving against a batallion?

This is now a civil war we a stuck in the middle of because we have assumed the role as the world's cop. The real problem is that at the end of WW2 the powers that be lumped three groups together that should have be put apart. No one has the stones to right the wrong done so many years ago.

The US has far to many internal issues that need attention as a priority before we go off to a conflict in another part of the world.

Vietnam taught us that way before the present.

Also, in a way, I agree with V960 as to having the "stones" to end such conflicts. While the "Buffs" of the SEA era and presently our B-1's & B-2's could end this "situation" almost immediately, I fear that doing so would only further isolate the US from the rest of the world. Unfortunately, we no longer hold the loaded dice.

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Originally posted by Adjudicator

The US has far to many internal issues that need attention as a priority before we go off to a conflict in another part of the world.

Vietnam taught us that way before the present.

Also, in a way, I agree with V960 as to having the "stones" to end such conflicts. While the "Buffs" of the SEA era and presently our B-1's & B-2's could end this "situation" almost immediately, I fear that doing so would only further isolate the US from the rest of the world. Unfortunately, we no longer hold the loaded dice.

I'm currently reading Flight of the Old Dog...a BUFF to love.

quote:

Originally posted by Adjudicator

The US has far to many internal issues that need attention as a priority before we go off to a conflict in another part of the world.

Vietnam taught us that way before the present.

Also, in a way, I agree with V960 as to having the "stones" to end such conflicts. While the "Buffs" of the SEA era and presently our B-1's & B-2's could end this "situation" almost immediately, I fear that doing so would only further isolate the US from the rest of the world. Unfortunately, we no longer hold the loaded dice.

We have the loaded dice but are too "moral" to use them.
We are the world's cop because there is no one else to do it.
If we had separated politics from warfare, Vietnam would have had a much more palatable outcome. We won the war on the battlefield but lost it in the media.
We need to take this "war" to the Islamists rather than fight it here - which is what is now going to happen thanks to our "cut and run" democrat leadership.
Douglas McArthur and Geo. Patton had the right ideas. Make the other guys die for their country.

Oneiron, Not to get in a battle here, but the British also won most if not all battles against the ugly mob of rebels here but lost the WAR.
I am a democrat and probably lean to the liberal side but I have thought over our position in that Hell Hole, and have changed my mind.
We can't possibly get out, there is too much at stake. Not for us here in the U.S. but for that region in the mid east. As GW said we must stay the course. Lets finnish the job and make a gracefull exit, if posssible.
Chow Jim

Why is it that some people just can't seem to get their brains around the fact that the USS Abraham Lincoln's mission had been accomplished? And what is it that prevents some of those same people from understanding that major combat did end?

Odd, as I was reading this thread, the photo ad at the bottom was for "Military Power Supply something or another", with a pic of a amored tank..
Go figure.
The ads must change, cus its not there anymore.

Why not celebrate by registering a couple of eligible but unregistered voters? That's what is going to determine our future - voting, not talking.

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Originally posted by RubyRose

Why not celebrate by registering a couple of eligible but unregistered voters? That's what is going to determine our future - voting, not talking.

Nicely put.

a WARNING, keep this civil. So far so good.

MikeS.

Michael: you are correct, the Abraham Lincoln did indeed accomplish the mission on which it had been dispatched - but "finished with engines" would have been the final entry in the logbook when the ship arrived in its home port - not the White House's pr crap about "mission accomplished".

You are on questionable ground when you suggest that major combat ended when Dubya said it did- try telling that to the families of 3327 dead American servicemen. The fact is, combat, especially in places like Anbar province and the city of Baghdad, has become more deadly and more intense since that infamous day 4 years ago when our President brought his office to a new low.

Never-the-less, I hope some day you and I can share a bottle and reminisce about the Connecticut shore of 50 years ago.

Cheers, John



Cheers

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Originally posted by Oneiron339

quote:

Originally posted by Adjudicator

The US has far to many internal issues that need attention as a priority before we go off to a conflict in another part of the world.

Vietnam taught us that way before the present.

Also, in a way, I agree with V960 as to having the "stones" to end such conflicts. While the "Buffs" of the SEA era and presently our B-1's & B-2's could end this "situation" almost immediately, I fear that doing so would only further isolate the US from the rest of the world. Unfortunately, we no longer hold the loaded dice.

We have the loaded dice but are too "moral" to use them.
We are the world's cop because there is no one else to do it.
If we had separated politics from warfare, Vietnam would have had a much more palatable outcome. We won the war on the battlefield but lost it in the media.
We need to take this "war" to the Islamists rather than fight it here - which is what is now going to happen thanks to our "cut and run" democrat leadership.
Douglas McArthur and Geo. Patton had the right ideas. Make the other guys die for their country.

Well then. I say go for the gusto. We need to quit fooling around. End this mess, NOW!



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