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2004/08/23 14:33:38 (permalink)

Most important part of a sandwich

What do you think makes a sandwich a sandwich? The meat, veggies, bread, or sauces.
I think its the bread, its part of the texture and the grip, bite into it first, soaks up everything a little, I can keep going on and on.
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    tkitna
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    RE: Most important part of a sandwich 2004/08/24 00:12:13 (permalink)
    I agree with the bread. I've been buying some of the different pepperidge farms breads. If fresh baked bread isnt an option (my area is almost a joke, the pepperidge farms brand does really well for a store bought bread. Always fresh and tasteful.

    http://www.pepperidgefarm.com/fresh_bread_lunch.asp
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    RE: Most important part of a sandwich 2004/08/24 00:49:52 (permalink)
    The bread... for straight white I prefer Wonder Sandwich.. I like a sturdy whole grain with sunflower seeds too..
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    RE: Most important part of a sandwich 2004/08/24 01:17:13 (permalink)
    Bread. Supermarkets are getting better with the "artisan" breads and that's good (but I don't think I've ever seen an artisan baker in Krogers). Otherwise, it has to be Arnold's Jewish rye. Toasted white, maybe, for a BLT.
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    RE: Most important part of a sandwich 2004/08/24 08:48:22 (permalink)
    There are many good bread bakeries around my location and all grocery stores claim to have a "bakery" but I tend to stick with stores specializing in bread.
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    RE: Most important part of a sandwich 2004/08/24 09:20:18 (permalink)
    Yes, the bread is everything when it somes to sandwiches. That's why I bake my own. Sometimes I bake a finely textured, moist potato bread to slice for sandwiches. Sometimes I like a slightly sweet, milky, eggy roll for sandwiches. Mmmmm.
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    RE: Most important part of a sandwich 2004/08/24 10:12:43 (permalink)
    I dont see how it cant be the bread. Afterall, if there is no bread, its not a sandwich. Its merely a plate of stuff that could be the filling of a sandwich if only you had - ta da!- bread.

    Arnold Jewish Rye? What makes it Jewish? Now if it was called Shmuel's Jewish rye I might be a believer....
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    RE: Most important part of a sandwich 2004/08/24 10:37:54 (permalink)
    Bad bread makes me sad.
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    RE: Most important part of a sandwich 2004/08/24 11:15:42 (permalink)
    I think it's a 50/50 deal. You must have good bread, but just as important you must have good innards. If you have rotten bread and good insides so what, it still no good but conversely if you have rotton stuff in the middle and excellent bread it is still repulsive.

    I say it's half and half.
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    RE: Most important part of a sandwich 2004/08/24 12:12:57 (permalink)
    Depends on the sandwich. For standard cold cuts, I generally use whole wheat, Hellman's mayo, and maybe just yellow mustard. But for really good sandwiches like pastrami or corned beef, or roast pork or beef, I tend to use a fuller-flavored, chewier bread and a whole-grain mustard like Zaterain's.

    My guilty secret is that when I lived in the SF area as a teenager, I'd get really sour, chewy good sour-dough bread, spread it liberally with mayonnaise, and add a lot of finely granulated garlic.

    Finally, a couple of sentimental favorites (read, "favorites when I was a kid"): white bread & mayo for fried egg and meat loaf sandwiches.

    Salt & freshly ground black pepper, of course.
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    RE: Most important part of a sandwich 2004/08/24 14:12:48 (permalink)
    For most sandwiches, I use Orowheat Oatnut (it has oats and hazelnuts in it). For just plain eating at meals, I like Acme breads. Usually I get their Italian batard or baguette. Both come "sweet" or "sour" here in the Bay Area.
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    RE: Most important part of a sandwich 2004/08/24 14:31:38 (permalink)
    Hey Renfrew, of the Mounties,---if you were old enough you would understand what I mean---but, being a young whippersnapper you will have to look it up. In reverse, without filling the sandwich is just 2 slices of bread. Or in Denmark one slice of bread. Now,if you go into a deli to order a
    sam-witch do you tell the guy or gal behind the counter I'll have 2 slices of Levy's Jewish Rye with ------ No, by gum, you say I'll have a lean corned beef on rye with mustard--oh, by the way make that Levy's Rye---what you don't have Levy's---ok then, whatever you have is ok as long as it is rye and the corned beef is lean.

    So, Sir, my argument is it is the filling not the bread that makes the
    sam-witch. Amen, Brother---Praise the Lord and pass the mustard.
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    RE: Most important part of a sandwich 2004/08/25 09:04:36 (permalink)
    i would not say that as long as it is rye it is okay. I take my bread seriously, even if the rest of the world - jewish and non-jewish - seem to have forgotten what rye bread can be.

    And if the corned beef is lean, then I am not eating it either. lean corned beef is tasteless corned beef.

    We have shown the chicken and egg argument can be applied to the sandwich. Although I will say that the old joke "i usually have a smash sandwich, know what that is? I take two slices of bread and smash them together!" Could not be applied to filling. Even if it is two slices of bread, its still called a sandwich.

    Yeah i am too young to know about the western movie reference. But Google is wonderful.
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    RE: Most important part of a sandwich 2004/08/25 13:33:14 (permalink)
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    Originally posted by renfrew
    And if the corned beef is lean, then I am not eating it either. lean corned beef is tasteless corned beef.


    I was going to make that point too, but I figured it was a lost cause. Some people just understand corned beef and some don't.
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    RE: Most important part of a sandwich 2004/08/25 15:35:28 (permalink)
    On the point of lean corned beef, and not sandwiches or Jewish rye, I was in an Austin bbq place once and ordered the "trimmed" brisket. The counter lady said, "Why do you want that when the fat stuff tastes so much better?"
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    RE: Most important part of a sandwich 2004/08/25 16:49:42 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by axvawe

    I think it's a 50/50 deal. You must have good bread, but just as important you must have good innards. If you have rotten bread and good insides so what, it still no good but conversely if you have rotton stuff in the middle and excellent bread it is still repulsive.

    I say it's half and half.


    I have to disagree to the extent that I have had delicious sandwiches made out of only two slices of wonderful freshly baked bread and cheapo mayo, butter, or jam. When the bread is good, the bread alone can "make" the sandwich.
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    RE: Most important part of a sandwich 2004/08/25 18:33:18 (permalink)
    Right On
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    RE: Most important part of a sandwich 2004/08/26 00:03:44 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by renfrew
    Yeah i am too young to know about the western movie reference.


    http://www.surfnetinc.com/chuck/mountie3.htm (Sgt. Renfrew's heyday seems to have been 1939 and 1940)
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    RE: Most important part of a sandwich 2004/08/26 02:01:27 (permalink)
    A perfectly made sandwich is a construction of ingredients which compliment each other. For example, take a grilled eggplant-tomato-Romaine-pesto-buffala mozzarella sandwich on focaccia. They compliment each other. Put the same combo on pumpernickle.....a disaster, I would think. A nice thick, Reuben or pastrami from the best deli in the world would be a flop on Wonder bread.
    Food, like music, is a composition......one has to keep in mind harmony, color, rhythm, texture, balance and taste.
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    RE: Most important part of a sandwich 2004/08/26 07:05:45 (permalink)
    OK Ileechef that's all well and good, but where's my ham and cheese on rye with lots-a-mustard.............I ordered it 20 minutes ago. And the only music it is like is a polka. Probably the Beer Barrel Polka. Or, The Too Fat Polka sung by Arthur Godfrey. Who ?????
    Actually, you are right---a good sandwich is a work of art.
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    RE: Most important part of a sandwich 2004/08/26 08:55:19 (permalink)
    in addition to the elements you mention lleechef, environment is noticeably lacking. Eating a simple sandwich outside on an amazing fall day is preferable to me than eating something more extravagant in the house.

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    RE: Most important part of a sandwich 2004/08/26 10:30:03 (permalink)
    I can only say that my hunting dogs have all preferred their working lunch sandwiches just one way: Kosher salami and swiss cheese with Batampte mustard on white bread. I don't argue with the dogs who find my birds and then retrieve them. So, if that's the way they want them, that's the way I make them. I prefer mine on rye, but sometimes you have to go along to get along.
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    RE: Most important part of a sandwich 2004/08/26 11:17:26 (permalink)
    hmm...can you really say it is still kosher salami when you add swiss cheese to it?

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    RE: Most important part of a sandwich 2004/08/26 11:41:11 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by renfrew

    in addition to the elements you mention lleechef, environment is noticeably lacking. Eating a simple sandwich outside on an amazing fall day is preferable to me than eating something more extravagant in the house.



    You are quite right! I left out ambiance. IF I could get the same oyster 'po boy here in Alaska that I get in New Orleans.....nah, it just wouldn't be the same.

    ancient mariner.....sorry for the delay on your ham and cheese, I had to fire the sandwich guy.....too slow. It'll be right up!
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    RE: Most important part of a sandwich 2004/08/26 11:52:18 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by renfrew

    hmm...can you really say it is still kosher salami when you add swiss cheese to it?



    The salami is kosher, the sandwich isn't.
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    RE: Most important part of a sandwich 2004/08/26 18:24:01 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by lleechef

    quote:
    Originally posted by renfrew

    in addition to the elements you mention lleechef, environment is noticeably lacking. Eating a simple sandwich outside on an amazing fall day is preferable to me than eating something more extravagant in the house.

    You are quite right! I left out ambiance. IF I could get the same oyster 'po boy here in Alaska that I get in New Orleans.....nah, it just wouldn't be the same.


    Yes indeedy! Grab a muffaletta at Central and head up to the levee to pack it away.

    (Spent the last couple days planning this trip for January).
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    RE: Most important part of a sandwich 2004/08/27 19:28:55 (permalink)
    I know this won't be a popular opinion, but to me, the insides are the best part of a sandwich. Bread is simply the vehicle. Same goes for pizza.

    So there. I am a cretin.
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    RE: Most important part of a sandwich 2004/08/28 22:34:49 (permalink)
    You aren't a cretin! Your point is well made. But as with any vehicle, if the body isn't well constructed, the ride ain't good.
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    RE: Most important part of a sandwich 2004/08/30 09:53:21 (permalink)
    The salami is kosher, the sandwich isn't.

    Actually, the salami is no longer kosher. Once it touched the cheese you rendered it unkosher.

    So my point still stands.
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    RE: Most important part of a sandwich 2004/08/30 10:01:31 (permalink)
    OK. In fact, once I placed the salami on my cutting board it was no longer kosher.

    Still, I bought kosher salami and made a salami and cheese sandwich. I also bought kosher corned beef and kosher pastrami. as well as kosher kishka yesterday. By the time I got around to eating any of it it was no longer kosher.
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