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RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs - Sun, 03/15/09 8:18 PM
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Yuppicide,

I've posted many times regarding Hot Dog Johnny's. I think their dogs are mediocre and bland. The most overrated hot dog joint I know of. Yet people love this place. So I'm just a guy with a different opinion, and it's a good thing that so many people disagree with me (and you) otherwise Johnny's would be out of business. Instead places like Syd's and Amazing Hot Dog, which put out a superior product, are gone. Don't get me wrong, I don't wish to see anyone go out of business. Much of the appeal of Johnny's is the setting and atmosphere, which I feel should be discounted when judging the quality of a hot dog.

Some years ago a friend bought me a Hot Dog Johnny's tee shirt, not knowing my opinion of the place. I love it! It's so comfortable that I bought one for my son. He says it's his most comfortable tee shirt. AT the time they were only $6.00.

I also love wearing it because it elicits many opinions and is a great conversation starter. So are the other hot dog shirts I wear; especially the New Jersey Hot Dog Tour shirts. Most people see my HDJ shirt and comment on how good their dogs are. But a sizable minority have negative comments. These are mostly from strangers, so I'd bet that even more people who see the shirt don't like the dogs, but they feel funny saying something negative to a relative stranger. The last time I wore this shirt, I had a guy tell me that they were the worst dogs he's ever had.

About three weeks ago I was wearing it at the hospital while visiting my brother. There was a clergyman standing outside the room, but didn't want to wake my brother. We ended up talking and this guy is the pastor of a Presbyterian church in Linden. He told me that he's been to Johnny's while going to the Delaware Water Gap to hike. He said that he doesn't like the dogs or fries, but gets a birch beer. He also told me that there is a group of bikers from his church that makes the trip to Hot Dog Johnny's regularly. The minister said that he asked them why they travel so far when Father & Son Luncheonette is a few blocks away and serves much better dogs.

As I've mentioned many times, it's almost as fun listening to opinions and comments about hot dogs as it is eating them.

While I consider Hot Dog Johnny's to be bland and mediocre, Hot Rod's is one of the three worst hot dogs I've ever had. A blander, boiled, cheap tasting turkey dog.

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RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs - Sat, 03/21/09 1:38 AM
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I agree..Hot Dog Johnny's is one of the most overrated hot dog joints in NJ. Hot Rods dogs are awful but I really like their chili.
 
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RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs - Sat, 03/21/09 6:13 AM
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When we went as a team to Hot Rod's, I ordered a dog the way they usually prepare it; mustard, onions, and pickles. Minus the onions. I took one or two bites and threw it out. Everyone else had the chili and raved about it. Unfortunately, I didn't sample it.

When it came time to vote and we got to the chili dog category, Hot Rod's chili was discussed as a possible top 3. But since their dog was so bad, it was decided that they wouldn't be considered for best chili dogs.

If you use a lousy dog, it doesn't matter what you do to it.

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RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs - Sat, 03/28/09 11:03 AM
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I always enjoy eating at Hot dog Johnny's when I get the chance, the way they serve their dogs with mustard,chopped onions and pickle is one of my favorites. The consistency of their hot dogs served hot and fresh as well as their great french fries and the way they serve their root beer in those old fashioned glass mugs is why they have maintained a strong customer base for more than sixty years. It's been posted many times that the picturesque views may have a reason for some of their success, if that was the case why did King Cole Grove close up, they are just a few miles west of Johnny's with the same kind of atmosphere but they were not as successful. As far as ratings go, I understand that everyones tastes are different, it was sad to see Amazing Hotdog close again, but the changing of their product and inconsistent cooking of their dogs may have something to do with  the satisfaction of their customers. The same could be said for their fries, some people raved about them, when I first visited their Verona location a few years ago I thought they were ordinary and might have been left in the oil to long. Hopefully they can reopen with
better results in a new location.

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RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs - Sat, 03/28/09 12:10 PM
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John..You know one thing I never asked you.  Have you ever had a skinless hot dog you liked?  Personally,  I haven't....

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RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs - Sat, 03/28/09 9:42 PM
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Baah Ben,

I prefer the natural casing dogs to the skinless. Except when it comes to Italian Hot Dogs. I don't want the "snap" to interfere with the synergy between the ingredients in this sandwich. Which is what it is, a sandwich. When it comes to hot dogs I prefer mine unencumbered with things that mask the flavor.

Although I prefer natural casing hot dogs, I do like the skinless version of quality brands. Simply because they are made from the same recipe as those with casing. They lack the snap and the slightly different taste from the casing dog which retains most of its juices. But Hebrew National is a quality dog. You can get it with a collagen casing if you look hard enough. Best, Sabrett, Nathan's, Usinger's Thumann's, are all good dogs skinless. But they are much better when they have a casing.

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RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs - Mon, 03/30/09 8:02 PM
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  Today I went to Frankly Burgers and More for the first time. From reading the posts on another forum and asking questions, I had a pretty good idea of what to expect. I was not disappointed. Frankly Burgers was what I expected and then some.

I'm not the type that is very observant of my surroundings, prefering to look at the menu and the grill area. But I did notice that the place was clean and had pictures of the Jersey Shore on the walls. A nice looking litlle restaurant with a good atmosphere.

Before, during, and after eating I had the chance to talk with Carolyn and Ralph, who own Frankly Burgers and More. They've been open about 9 weeks. They are hands on owners who take a lot of pride in the food that they serve. Everything is cooked to order and extremely fresh. Customers are encouraged to request their dogs (and burgers) to be prepared how they want. As has been mentioned previously, you can get your burgers cooked on a griddle or chrbroiled on a grill. The franks are fried or grilled. Or you can have your dog char grilled. Ralph and Carolyn are not shy in contacting their current suppliers and new ones in order to have everything meet their high standards. They just had a bigger hot dog bun made for them, which better fits their longer dog.

I wanted to sample their many dogs and have them prepared differently. Also their burger. I didn't get to sample the burger or have a charbroiled dog. Next time.

I started off with the natural casing 6 to a lb dog. I had it griddled. It was served on a toasted New England style bun. The bun was perfect for this dog and of good quality. I have no preference between a regular bun or New England style as long as it is fresh and sturdy. Not like the supermarket brands that fall apart. You have a choice of Gulden's or French's mustard. I like the brown mustard (Guldens) on a beef dog. The dog was fresh, tasty, and juicy. Hot as well. I like that this place offers a Best natural casing frank griddled. I don't know of anywhere else that does. Father & Son in Linden used to. The brand is my favorite beef dog, and here it was prepared perfectly. It's one thing to serve a quality brand. That's only half of it. What a lot of places fail to do is to prepare it well.

Next I tried a single Italian Hot Dog. It was authentic, and along with Jersey Joe's in Port Monmouth, a place where you can get a real Newark Style Italian Hot Dog south of the Driscoll Bridge. JoJo's is in Toms River, but isn't nearly as good. Frankly Burgers use 8 to a lb dogs, which I prefer to any other size for this type of sandwich. They are natural casing which I look for in a regular dog, although I like skinless in an Italian. Again the dog was sufficiently hot and juicy. The peppers (red and green) were outstanding. Soft, fresh, and tastier than what you usually get on an Italian Hot Dog. Cut a little bigger too, which I liked. Ralph told me that he gets high quality peppers from a small supplier and makes them his own unique way. The ingredients are deep fried except for the peppers, which are cooked on the griddle. The potatoes are sliced thin and fried to a golden brown color. Very similar to the old Charlies Son's (not to be confused with Charlies Famous in Kenilworth), formerly of Union. The pizza bread was good. Although I prefer Carmen's and Sorrento's (East Hanover) this bread was solid and fresh. It's fresh because it's from a nearby bakery and ordered as needed. Since this restaurant is not primarily an Italian Hot Dog joint, it's hard to gauge demand. I think they made a wise choice in getting a local bakery to provide good fresh pizza bread.
All in all one of the better Italian Hot dogs in the state. Easily the best from a place that isn't primarily an Italian Hot Dog restaurant. I only had a single. I'll have to have a double to get a better idea since that is what I usually order.

The last dog I tried was the quarter pounder. Here it is usually ordered grilled. But I wanted to try one deep fried since I already had one griddled. I had mine with just mustard. This one was very good as well. Exactly like the old dog was at Amazing Hot Dog. It was hot enough and ripped open. This is fine since it is a thicker dog. Any less time in the fryer and it wouldn't have been sufficiently hot. I've had dogs this size less than hot in the past.

I also sample the chili (on the side) and some french fries. The chili was thick, slightly sweet, with a little spice in the background. A good homemade chili. Not the clovey, thin, sweet Texas Weiner type chili you see at many Passaic County places. Although I liked it, the juicy beefy dogs were so tasty that I prefer to have them here with mustard only. Maybe I would have it on the Schickhaus beef and pork dog . Another thing to try next time.

Lastly the fries. Cut fairly thin, they are fresh cut (not the cheap frozen Sysco fries) and delicious. In the same class as Amazing Hot Dog, Syd's, and Bubbas. It's nice that the fries here are top quality and not the cheap, frozen, empty calorie fries served at too many burger and hot dog joints.

I really enjoyed my lunch here yesterday. The food was great as was the service and preparation. The owners are passionate and care about quality and service. It's a trip for me, but worth it. I'll be back.

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RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs - Mon, 03/30/09 10:49 PM
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Hey, John Fox!!
Guess what?!!?  I just went to Frankly Burgers today, one day after you were there..!
Before I even read this post of yours, Ralph told me that "hot dog lover" was in there!

I had the "half" Italian hot dog, and a charbroiled cheeseburger...
both excellent!!!
the pizza roll that the hot dog came in was PERFECT; not too bready, and so fresh!!
This was a coincidence that you were in there a day before me; it would have been even funnier if we were there at the same time! Poor Ralph and Carolyn would have hand their hands really full answering questions from both of us!

I met up with my sister there, as I was on my way to her house near Freehold...

I will post pics ASAP !!
I asked Ralph if you took any pics, and he said you did'nt, so let me take over, lol..

great narrative on Frankly Burgers; good job again, John!
I also had read some mixed reviews; apparently some were "disappointed"..
I really don't know why, as this place exceeded my expectations..

and YES, that Best's hot dog was very JUICY!!!

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RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs - Tue, 03/31/09 6:00 AM
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Ellen,
 
Looking forward to seeing your pictures. I never took any and wouldn't know how to put them online. I really should learn seeing that I've been to so many places. But that's what we got you for!

I didn't have room for a burger, but they looked good. The meat is fresh and ground at the restaurant. I glanced at some of the reviews I've seen, not really thinking this place served hot dogs despite the name "Frankly" Burgers. The frankly went right past me. Then I did happen to see a post that mentioned their dogs. Glad you enjoyed your lunch.

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RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs - Tue, 03/31/09 12:59 PM
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Hey John,

If you are in the area of North Plainfield, NJ my mom's place, Nanny's Kitchen, is serving up a hot dog special that day called a "Picnic Piggy." It is Thumann’s Jumbo Hot Dog topped with cheese, chopped onions, relish, mustard, potato salad & baked beans. Served with fries $6.99  The potato salad and beans are on the hot dog not on the side.  Just thought I'd let you know since it seems you are always looking for different kinds of hot dogs to try. 



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RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs - Tue, 03/31/09 2:39 PM
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fattybomatty


Hey John,

If you are in the area of North Plainfield, NJ my mom's place, Nanny's Kitchen, is serving up a hot dog special that day called a "Picnic Piggy." It is Thumann’s Jumbo Hot Dog topped with cheese, chopped onions, relish, mustard, potato salad & baked beans. Served with fries $6.99  The potato salad and beans are on the hot dog not on the side.  Just thought I'd let you know since it seems you are always looking for different kinds of hot dogs to try. 


Thanks. What is the address? Although I like visiting different places, I prefer my dog without everything on top. This way I can taste the flavor of a quality dog like Thumann's. How is it prepared? Is it skinless or does it have a casing?

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RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs - Tue, 03/31/09 4:04 PM
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John,

It is located in Dante Plaza at 1040 Route 22 East in North Plainfield, NJ, directly across the highway from Siperstein's Paint.  The address was recently changed in town so if you google map or mapquest it they give you different locations than where it actually is. 

They are the skinless Jumbo Pork and Beef Franks.  I believe she will be grilling them, but you can request her to make it anyway you like.  Today the website has been down for some reason (I'm still trying to figure out what's wrong with it) but here is the website URL for when it does start working again nanny's kitchen   And the phone number is 908-561-7003

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RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs - Tue, 03/31/09 6:45 PM
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Your narratives are so good, JOHN FOX, that you don't need any pictures, anyway!

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RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs - Tue, 03/31/09 7:08 PM
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John and Ellen, thanks for the reviews of Frankly Burgers. That's one I'm definately adding to my list.

There was a review of another new place in last Friday's Star Ledger:

http://www.nj.com/entertainment/dining/index.ssf/2009/03/exboxer_packs_a_wallop_with_a.html

John, I seem to recall you posting about a place with 12 to a lb. dogs and I'm thinking this may have been the place but I couldn't locate the post. In any event I'm going to give it a try next time I head down to Costco in Edison. If the dogs are that small I can get a couple and still have room for the fried chicken that Pete Genovese raved about.  

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RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs - Tue, 03/31/09 8:07 PM
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I spoke with Darron the owner a couple of weeks ago after I saw an article in the Courier News about Central Jersey Hot Dogs. I think I put the link in earlier in this thread. The dogs are 11 to a lb boiled Sabretts. I went to Genie's Weenies instead that day. Darron mentioned that his chili is popular. Pete Genovese liked it.

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RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs - Wed, 04/1/09 1:11 AM
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I visited Frankly Burgers and More on Tuesday. Not much more to add to John Fox's post.

I had the Best Hot Dog cooked perfect with mustard and chili. The chili was very good and tasty.

The fries reminded me of the Olde Heidelburg Inn in Keansburg. Made me want to buy some Malt Vinegar. Brought back memories.

I also sampled their homemade:
Manhattan Clam Chowder 
Coleslaw
Chili Con Carne
Beef Barley Soup

All were great







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RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs - Wed, 04/1/09 9:39 PM
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So, John Fox went to FRANKLY Burgers on Sunday, Ellen went on Monday, and John Sagi went on Tuesday!

This is too funny!
Reminds me of that movie "Serendipity", although in that movie they kept missing each other by minutes...

Here's a pic of my delish ITALIAN HOT DOG from FRANKLY BURGERS, Freehold, NJ
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My FULL thread is in the HAMBURGER forum..
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RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs - Thu, 04/2/09 4:30 PM
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That looks like regular eatin' chili, not "chili sauce" "Texas Hot Weiner Sauce", etc.  Is it?  I see that you mention that they serve chili.

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RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs - Thu, 04/2/09 5:59 PM
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Miami

They have two different chilis

The hot dog chili has no beans and fairly mild.

Their regular chlli has beans with a little heat.

Both were good

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RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs - Mon, 04/13/09 11:15 AM
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A short video of Boulevard Drinks in Jersey City. One of the best hot dog joints in the state. Griddled Sabretts since 1937. Opened when Sabrett was based in Jersey City.

http://videos.nj.com/2008/09/best_hot_dogs_in_jersey_city.html

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RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs - Mon, 04/13/09 8:24 PM
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Boulevard Drinks great tasting Sabrett's, and their unique chili / onion sauce, only problem, not enough on street parking.

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RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs - Thu, 04/16/09 7:54 AM
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Papaya King on Getty Ave. in Clifton changed owners about a year ago. Frank, the new owner added a few things to the menu and lowered the prices. A regular grilled beef dog (about 10 to a lb) went from $1.99 to $1.50. They have a "happy hour" from 4 PM to 6:30 during the week. Dogs cost 99 cents.

This coming Saturday they will be giving away dogs for free from 12 noon to 4 PM.

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RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs - Sat, 04/18/09 7:19 PM
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I stopped at Frankly Burgers & More last thursday, very clean establishment. First I had 2 of the Best's 6 to a pound hotdogs, both on the griddle and one of them finished on the flame grill, the one on the griddle I added the chili,very good, the one off the flame grill just mustard, both were prepared just the way I asked and were very good. Next I tried the Schickhaus frank, prepared on the griddle,just added the Gueldens mustard,great tasting frank, reminded me of Maxx's in Long Branch. Wishing Carolyn and Ralph much success.
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RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs - Sun, 04/19/09 6:26 AM
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I was there Friday with my wife. This was my second time and I decided to try their burger. Very good. I had it prepared on the griddle (you can have it charbroiled) and it was nice and juicy. They use high quality meat that they grind themselves. Also had a 6 to a lb natural casing Best's off the griddle. Exceptional. I love the toasted New England buns. I've had plenty of Best's, but these are prepared perfectly and seem fresher and juicier than other places using this dog. Ralph gets them delivered often in small quantities right from the plant.

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RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs - Thu, 04/30/09 11:42 AM
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I am so glad that someone else remembers Walt's. Walt Morozack was my grandmother's cousin.  When I was a child my grandparents and parents would take me and my sister there for lunch and dinner. I remember walking into the place and just thinking how big is was. I loved their hot dogs, but I really loved their hamburgers (my fav). I was so sad the day they sold the place and it was torn down.
I still have ties to Linden, but mainly Rahway. My family still owns LeHart's Friendly Service on St. George Ave.
Thanks for the memories.

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RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs - Thu, 04/30/09 12:33 PM
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Has anyone been to Tommy's Hot Dogs in Carteret recently?
 
I have to be in Carteret around lunch time next week and was thinking of stopping there but I haven't been there in 10+ years. I don't really remember much about the dogs, so if anyone knows what's good/bad, let me know.  Or if there is a better alternative, such as a local cart.

It looks like they are still open according to information on the web.

Thanks, I'll report back if I go.

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RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs - Thu, 04/30/09 1:49 PM
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HotDog Johnny's is great, but I'm with JFox, the dogs are nothing special. Standard dogs. I go for the setting/atmosphere and because the birch beer is great! 

Kinda off topic, I had a dog at Citi Field this past weekend. 

I think it was worse than the ones at Shea. 

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RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs - Fri, 05/1/09 12:02 AM
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Ken,

 I believe you'll find John Fox's review of Tommy's Hot Dogs in Carteret on this page, in his post of 1/1/07:  http://www.roadfood.com/Forums/tm.aspx?m=440&mpage=12

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RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs - Fri, 05/1/09 3:04 PM
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<<I believe you'll find John Fox's review of Tommy's Hot Dogs in Carteret on this page, in his post of 1/1/07:  http://www.roadfood.com/Forums/tm.aspx?m=440&mpage=12

Thanks Bear. I figured there was a review by John from when they went to all those places, but for some reason I couldn't locate it via the search feature. 

Hope you're doing well.

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RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs - Sat, 05/2/09 2:11 AM
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I stopped at a new cart recently. Uncle Jerry's cart is on Route 46 in Belvidere a few minutes west of Hot Dog Johnny's so yes there are good dogs in the area now! He's in the parking lot of a place called Motorcycle Warehouse. He serves skinless Sabretts which were hot enough and although the chili isn't homemade, his hot onions are and they are really good. He adds some green peppers to them and they have a nice amount of spicyness to them and good flavor. He's only been there a few weeks and I wish him good luck.

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RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs - Sun, 05/3/09 11:27 AM
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There were and still are good dogs in the Warren County area of Hot Dog Johnny's, I wish the best for Uncle Jerry's, but before King Cole Grove closed I believe he was selling Sabrett's.

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RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs - Mon, 05/4/09 12:42 PM
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                                    IMHO                                   
A chill Dog is NOT a Texas Wiener.               
I view a Texas Wiener is a DEEP FRIED HOT DOG topped with mustard, chopped onions and sauce all in a hot dog roll.                 
A chile dog is any hot dog topped with chile (Texas style chile or Texas wiener sauce).                                                                            
 I live in New Jersey and have a long love of Texas Wieners. My Dad, like his Dad, used to make a special occasion out of going for hot dogs. My Dad grew up in Clifton NJ and his Dad would take him to Paterson for Texas Wieners. Back then they would go to Libby's or Johnny & Hanges. Many a night in youth my Dad and Mom would pack up the kids and we would drive to Paterson for those dogs. I loved to go in with him to hear them shout out our 
order back to the cook. Later in my life I worked at a job In Elmwood Park (East Paterson) and found I was 1/2 a mile from River View East, a Texas Wiener "grill" descended from Falls View.                 
This became my favorite Texas Wiener place. John Fox I have been meaning to tell you about this place, and I always figured that you knew about it, but I have never seen a review . I'd like to propose a mini meet and greet at River View East in Elmwood Park NJ.                    
                                                                      
Also here is some very good information that I found. It is long but good reading. 
http://lcweb2.loc.gov/ammem/collections/paterson/essay6.html   

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RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs - Mon, 05/4/09 2:23 PM
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Alesrus,

A chili dog is not a Texas Weiner, but a Texas Weiner can be considered a chili dog. A Texas Weiner to me is a beef/pork dog either deep fried or griddled and topped with mustard, onions. and a distinct Greek style chili. Not hot spicy chili, not Mexican style chili, not tomatoey hot dog truck chili.

I've heard of River View East, but never been there. A good one I went to recently is the Getty Grill in Clifton across from Corrado's and Papaya King. Deep fried Thumann's with a chili sauce that tastes very similar to The Hot Grill's. I would say that the chili is equally good at both places while the dog itself is better at Getty Grill. The Hot Grill's dog (Sabrett beef and pork) has less flavor.

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RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs - Fri, 05/8/09 9:27 AM
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As planned, I had my lunch at Tommy's in Carteret yesterday. As John pointed out in his Munchmobile reviews, they use a rather small 11 to a pund Sabrett dog. But I enjoyed my dogs.

I had a chili dog and a kraut dog. Both were tasty and cooked properly. Plus the place has real roadfood atmosphere, an old rundown shack in an older residential neighborhood. Plus the owner (who I think is named Paul not Tommy) is quite a character, which adds to the ambiance.

Sure, these were not the best dogs or the best chili I have ever had, but it was good enough, and overall I'd love to see this place should be included on some future tour for it's combination of colorful owner, rundown ambiance, and tasty dogs.

It's at 117 Grant Avenue, Carteret.

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RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs - Fri, 05/8/09 9:51 PM
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I was driving through Plainfield today and saw a familiar, welcoming yellow and blue Sabrett umbrella so of course I stopped. Lou G's Hot Dog Express trailer is at the corner of Myrtle Ave and Rock Ave in Plainfield maybe a block or 2 north of route 28. The owner Lou has been there about a year and he said he likes to make his dogs the way he would want to eat them. He uses natural casing Sabretts, I'm not sure of the size but they were decent size for dirty water dogs. The alleged homemade chili (unofficial because of the health dept) was quite good, very meaty with no beans. he has many different toppings including cole slaw so I had a chili slaw dog. The dog which was cooked nicely on a fresh roll was $2.00 with both toppings which isn't bad at all. Lou was very friendly and we talked for a few minutes. I mentioned about Roadfood and the Hot Dog Tour and he mentioned Amazing Hot Dogs. A very nice guy, a very good dog and I wish him much success.

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RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs - Fri, 05/15/09 11:29 PM
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It's been a great week for me. I found 4 more Sabrett vendors on top of the one from last Friday. I'll post each one separately below. I was wondering if I could ask a small favor of the Jersey Dog regulars. In my quest to eat once at as many hot dog joints in the Garden State as possible if you're driving and you see a cart/truck/trailer selling hot dogs would you mind posting it here? Besides me I'm sure there are many of us who would love to try a new place.

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RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs - Fri, 05/15/09 11:37 PM
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Mama always said if you can't say anything nice don't say anything at all.  John Sagi you don't have to read this post, the one's you'll be interested in are the next 3.

Gail's Dog House is in a park in Bridgewater off Thompson Ave several miles norh of Route 22. She serves skinless Sabretts because "kids prefer them" she said. She's there Mon-Fri and goes to other parks in town on the weekends to sell to local sporting events and park goers. The dog was fine, the "homemade" chili wasn't so good, it was thick and pastey and not very meaty and the dog was served on a non steamed roll.

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RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs - Fri, 05/15/09 11:43 PM
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Today I stopped at Deputy Dogs in either Middlesex or Piscataway. It's a truck on South Ave which is off Mountain Ave which I'm pretty sure intersects with Route 28 in Middlesex and goes into Piscataway at the other end. They are serving a natural casing Sabrett which was nicely heated and had a nice snap. They also had a thick meaty chili which had a subtle spicyness and a noticable cinnamon flavor. There were also diced red peppers in the chili which could be the source of the spice, I'm not sure. Not a bad dog although I didn't love the cinnamon chili.

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RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs - Fri, 05/15/09 11:48 PM
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Stop number 2 today was Marty's Lunch Box in Middlesex. it's a converted camper trailer parked off of Cedar Ave which turns into Possumtown Rd once you go into Piscataway I think. He also serves a natural casing Sabrett which was headed nicely and had the distinctive snap. The chili had more of a taco meat quality to it and I thought I tasted taco seasoning. It wasn't that spicy but it was pretty good. I liked it better than the cinnamon chili from Deputy Dogs. The roll also had that bread out of the bag taste and it wasn't steamed.

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RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs - Fri, 05/15/09 11:52 PM
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<<if you're driving and you see a cart/truck/trailer selling hot dogs would you mind posting it here? >>

Dave, the other day I noticed a cart on Park Ave in Plainfield (or maybe it's South Plainfield at that point) across from Muhlenberg Hospital. I haven't tried it, but there was a short line by the cart so it appears he's doing some business. Also, he had a Dietz & Watson umbrella, and if those are the dogs he sells, you don't see them that often around that area.

Thanks for all your reports. I'm always glad to know about different carts & wagons. 

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RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs - Fri, 05/15/09 11:55 PM
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The final stop on my solo nitrate filled lunch was Reggie's on Canal St in South Bound Brook. This trailer is parked in the D&R Canal Park parking lot and is very visable from the road. He too is serving a natural casing Sabrett which was heated nicely and had the snap. he's there Mon-Fri 11-3:30. The roll also wasn't steamed and had that bread out of the bag taste to it. I ordered a chili dog with his "extra spicy" chili. I was expecting it to be really spicy maybe even as much heat as the chili from JJ's truck in Newark which gives me hiccups when I eat it, but alas poor roadfooders all it had was a little bit of spice and a slight lingering burn, it was rather unfortunate. This chili was thicker and wetter as compared to the taco meat chili from Marty's Lunch Box. Reggie's offered a large amount of toppings including cole slaw which I'll have to try next time.

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Re:New Jersey Hot Dogs - Sat, 05/16/09 2:09 AM
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Dave great posts.
 
Like yourself I want to know about all of the vendors, especially on the street corner or in a parking lot.
 
If they don't have a street address the closest intersection will do. One thing about hot dog vendors is they all have the umbrella.
 
I've had some great homemade chili's from the street vendor. Its harder to
get home made chili from the carts because the law don't allow it anymore, but some still sneak it buy.
If you ever want company for a hot dog run let me know. I'm now living in Toms River full time.
 
 
 

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Re:New Jersey Hot Dogs - Sat, 05/16/09 11:10 AM
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Tony's hotdog truck on Park ave and Lake street in Branch Brook Park in Newark serves a great homemade chili. I would rank it right up there with Hirams and Father N Sons, thanks again for the tip on Father N Son ScreenBear. 

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Re:New Jersey Hot Dogs - Sat, 05/16/09 11:20 AM
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I actually like Tony's chili better than Father & Son's and Hiram's. Father & Son is close to me and I usually have some of their chili in my fridge or freezer. I had some 2 nights ago. But I really have to be in the mood for it and usually only have it on one dog since it is so spicy.

Pappy's Diner has a great Texas Weiner sauce. Coney Island Restaurant in Middletown, N.Y. has a great chili also. My favorite, though is John Sagi's homemade chili. Very similar to Coney Island's.

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Re:New Jersey Hot Dogs - Sun, 05/17/09 10:18 AM
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Rounding out my own personal top five chili dogs in NJ I would include Rutt's Hutt, even though you have to add the chili yourself because they only sell their chili in a cup or bowl. Boulevard Drinks unique chili is also very good, heavy on the chopped cooked onions,with a little heat. An honorable mention would go to Eagan's, long gone now, but they served a great chili dog,not to spicy, just the right blend and plenty enough that they would put a fork on top of the dog when they served it.

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Re:New Jersey Hot Dogs - Sun, 05/17/09 3:52 PM
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When I was growing up in New Jersey, my family's Saturday night meal stop in the warmer months was the Galloping Hill Inn in Union, also known as Five Points for the lunatic intersection where it was located. I just loved their dogs. I've not been back for over 40 years. Is it still there?
 
Also loved Sabrett's with the natural casing. Don't know whether they even exist anymore. We would get them once a month for lunch at the Catholic school I attended in Springfield.
 
I really can't stand 'skinless' franks, and in this part of PA nobody stocks franks with casing. If you ask for them, they look at you as if you're from another planet!

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Re:New Jersey Hot Dogs - Sun, 05/17/09 8:22 PM
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Beverly:
The Sabrett natural casing are definitely still around and are now even sold (at least during the summer months) in many NYC-area supermarkets such as Pathmark, ShopRite, Western Beef, and Stop and Shop. In many areas they are sold by food service distributors. I don't have a source for you off the top of my head for York, PA. Tthis board has hooked up a lot of people with local retailers or wholesalers. Hopefully another reader can give you a source, or contact Sabrett:
http://www.sabrett.com/contact.cfm
 
If there is a wholesaler in your area, chances are there is also a restaurant(s) that serves them.

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Re:New Jersey Hot Dogs - Sun, 05/17/09 9:14 PM
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Hi Beverly. Out your way you might want to try Sechrists Butcher shop on Main Street in Dallastown Pa. Great old time butcher shop which makes thier own hot dogs, and I'm pretty sure they do have a natural casing version.
 
Yes, Galloping Hill Inn is still there, in fact it's usually the starting point for the annual New  Jersey Hot Dog Tour which you can read about in the Roadfood forums.

And, yes, the 5 points intersection is one of the most complicated I've ever seen. I once read that there are 49 different combinations of turns you can make at the intersection.  

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Re:New Jersey Hot Dogs - Sun, 05/17/09 10:20 PM
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Thank you Ken and Dave for your help. I am very familiar with Sechrist Franks as the grocery store where I work sells them.
 
Strangely enough, their natural casing product is not considered a hot dog, but a sausage, and the spicing blend is totally different than the dogs I grew up with in New Jersey.
 
But I may have to try them again.
 
The last hot dog with natural casing that I tried was Boar's Head Beef and Pork with natural casing. It was so bland I was wondering if there was any seasoning in it at all.
 

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Re:New Jersey Hot Dogs - Mon, 05/18/09 12:03 AM
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Try the Boar's Head all-beef, natural casing frankfurter... offering perhaps the best snap in all of Dogdom, and a classical Eastern U.S. deli taste.

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Re:New Jersey Hot Dogs - Thu, 05/21/09 10:20 PM
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My Giant does not stock the Boar's Head All Beef, Natural Casing Hot Dogs. (I find this rather strange since they have every other version of BH Beef Hot Dogs!) BUT, the one in Red Lion (town south of York ), does. It makes me curious as the what the east and west York Giants have. I may have to check them out.
 
I can also get Nathan's shipped to me for $15 for three packages. Not too bad considering that I pay around $5.29 for a package of eight skinless at the store.
 
Thanks to all who helped. I really appreciate it.

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Re:New Jersey Hot Dogs - Fri, 05/22/09 9:01 PM
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Did anyone else notice the photo of John Fox in the Star Ledger last Fri May 15th. He was featured in the Munchmobile preview article doing what he loves...eating a hot dog.

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Re:New Jersey Hot Dogs - Sun, 05/24/09 1:24 PM
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Another NJ hot dog nut checking in. I must say I have been reading the posts on here since late last year and have been to many of the places dicussed in this thread. My favorite place for a Texas Weiner is Teddy's on Market street in Patterson. It really is a dive. But I can't stop going there every week and getting my fix. I also enjoy Hirams and Rutts hut. Even had a couple of dogs yesterday on route 23 south from a truck. Anyway happy to be here and enjoy reading these posts.

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Re:New Jersey Hot Dogs - Mon, 05/25/09 10:56 PM
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To elaborate on my previous post. I have eaten dogs at Hot Grill, Getty Ave Grill, The Corral, Papaya king, Mikes grill on Railway ave in patterson, Libbys, Teddys, Rutts hut, Hirams, Johnny and Hanges, Duffys Riverside, River View Grill East, Falls View, Hot dog Caboose in Midland park, Danny's dogs in Garfield, Hot Dog Hut in Wayne, Hot Dog House on 17 in Carlstadt, Hanks Franks, Daveys Dogs Howard Blvd. Anthonys Italian hot dogs in Hackettstown, And Mamuts in Passaic. As I said previously I go to Teddys almost weekly. Same for Daveys in Mount Arlington, which I stop at on the way to my moms every sunday night. I think Duffys is under rated and I have eaten there several times. Same could be said for Hot dog house on 17. Good dogs and close to my work. Same with Hanks. I love what they call their Italian onions. I went to Mikes grill for the first time on thursday. They make a really good Texas weiner. If you want something differant try Mamuts. Broadway in Passaic. It is Peruvian and they make the best Salchipapa I have ever had. Sliced and fried hot dogs on top of a bed of french fries, With various dipping sauces. Oh yeah I have been to all of these place since the beginning of the year abd I am sure I am forgetting a few places.

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RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs - Wed, 05/27/09 4:04 AM
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I'm 53 now. When I was a kid, probably under 10 Y.O.,There was a place in Hackettstown. It was litteraly a hole in the wall, a window that you ordered at. They served hot dogs with fried onions, does anybody remember the name of that place?

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RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs - Wed, 05/27/09 10:14 PM
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jdog


I'm 53 now. When I was a kid, probably under 10 Y.O.,There was a place in Hackettstown. It was litteraly a hole in the wall, a window that you ordered at. They served hot dogs with fried onions, does anybody remember the name of that place?

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Maybe Leo's Lunch?

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RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs - Sat, 05/30/09 1:09 AM
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Welcome John63 & JDog, You won't find a better place to discuss jersey Dogs.

Last Friday before Memorial Day weekend i was running some emergency beer deliveries all over the place and I had to go to Monroe Twp in Middlesex county. I put the address for the bar in my gps and away I go. Oh no a detour. Next thing I know I'm following the detour and I'm not sure where I am. But it must have been my lucky day. Just off the road in a garden center parking lot was a red truck with that wonderful Sabrett umbrella. The truck was unmarked, but painted red. I believe the street was Englishtown Road, I'm not sure of the town, but I stumbled across it following the detour for Spotswood-Englishtown Road. The dogs were really good. Very large natural casing dogs served very hot. I had mine with homemade meaty chili and homemade cole slaw. Both were outstanding. I would stop back there aagin if I could somehow find my way back there.

The detour rejoined Spotswood-Englishtown Road and right down the street from the bar was a Sabrett cart in Suburban Plaza. I was definitely in Monroe now. It must be my lucky day. I had one with mustard and relish. it was nicely heated and pretty good on top of that.

I've also passed 2 hot dog trucks in the past few days but didn't have any cash on me either time. I'll have to make sure that I do the next time I'm in Bridgewater and Hampton.

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RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs - Sat, 05/30/09 1:37 AM
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Hey Dave

I believe both stands are in Monroe Twp. on Englishtown Road.

The Red Truck has only been there a short while, I first seen it 2 weeks ago, but it was closed.

The second vendor I believe was Jackie's Famous Hot Dogs. She has been there for ever. I like how she keeps the hot dogs warm in one container and keeps a few in the hot water. The hot dogs always are hot and she has a pretty good chili.  

John

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RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs - Sat, 05/30/09 1:46 AM
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Hi John,
That red truck served excellent dogs you should definitely go back. The Sabrett cart I went to was down the street from the bar I needed to go to and wasn't on the same road as the red truck. I remember making  a left onto Texas Rd after leaving the truck, then a right onto Spotswood-Englishtown Rd. Who knows, maybe the cart moved locations.

Dave

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RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs - Sat, 05/30/09 11:18 AM
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Dave

What town was the bar that you delivered to in?

I know the area well, but need the direction you were coming from.

John

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