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Re:New Jersey Hot Dogs 2010/08/01 12:13:22 (permalink)
I tried a sonic footlong coney, and I was not impressed. I guess they are going for quantity, not quality. While the chili sauce and bun are fine, the hot dog was bland, and the texture was a bit rubbery.

I would be happy with a $2.99 6" 8/1 Chili Dog with a Sabretts/Thumann's/Bests/D&W natural casing frank. That would be a fair price and good value for quality food.
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Re:New Jersey Hot Dogs 2010/08/01 12:31:57 (permalink)
You can get that at Jerry's in Elizabeth. A natural casing Best's 8/1 boiled, then griddled for $1.75. Includes any and all toppings. And until recently this was only $1.50. One of my favorite dogs.
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Re:New Jersey Hot Dogs 2010/08/01 13:40:30 (permalink)
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David,

I think Sonic uses a Hormel dog, but I'm not certain. I was told by an employee that it was a generic dog that comes unlabelled. The actual size may or may not be custom made but I doubt that the recipe is a special one. Haven't had the dog yet, but I heard it isn't anything to write home about. I will stop and have one if I'm near Sonic. The one time I ate there I had a hamburger. Wide in diameter and very thin. Not that good and certainly didn't live up to the hype. It took months until I was actually able to eat there without the wait being more than an hour. This is the one on Rt 46 in Wayne. I hear the drinks are good, but the burgers are on the same level as McDonald's as far as I'm concerned.


I think some of you are expecting way too much from a Sonic experience. After all, it's only a low cost fast food joint on roller skates. Their Signature items are their drinks- the food is an afterthought. As they go, Jack in the Box an Whataburger has them all beat but I guess youze don't have those "Back East"! 
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Re:New Jersey Hot Dogs 2010/08/01 18:52:04 (permalink)
John Fox

You can get that at Jerry's in Elizabeth. A natural casing Best's 8/1 boiled, then griddled for $1.75. Includes any and all toppings. And until recently this was only $1.50. One of my favorite dogs.


Wow, a buck seventy five is cheap! I'll need to stop in next time I'm up north.
 
 
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Re:New Jersey Hot Dogs 2010/08/02 17:22:10 (permalink)
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David,

I think Sonic uses a Hormel dog, but I'm not certain. I was told by an employee that it was a generic dog that comes unlabelled. The actual size may or may not be custom made but I doubt that the recipe is a special one. Haven't had the dog yet, but I heard it isn't anything to write home about. I will stop and have one if I'm near Sonic. The one time I ate there I had a hamburger. Wide in diameter and very thin. Not that good and certainly didn't live up to the hype. It took months until I was actually able to eat there without the wait being more than an hour. This is the one on Rt 46 in Wayne. I hear the drinks are good, but the burgers are on the same level as McDonald's as far as I'm concerned.


I think some of you are expecting way too much from a Sonic experience. After all, it's only a low cost fast food joint on roller skates. Their Signature items are their drinks- the food is an afterthought. As they go, Jack in the Box an Whataburger has them all beat but I guess youze don't have those "Back East"! 
 


 yes, sonic is in the field with McDee's and BK .............bottom part , and yes the thing that keep's them in is there lime-ade drinks ......... cant beat them !!!


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Re:New Jersey Hot Dogs 2010/08/05 11:00:31 (permalink)
One time I was in the Route 18 Flea Market in East Brunswick (it's now closed). There was a guy with a food place there. He was from Brooklyn, NY. Had a big accent. Without him telling you, you could tell he was from New York. He made pretzels and also sold hot dogs.

I was getting a pretzel and this black guy comes up and orders two chili dogs.

The guy behind the counter cooks the dogs, puts them on the bun, is adding the chili and just as he's finishing up the black guy comes over and says, "Is that Hormel chili?" and the guy said it was. The black guy says something like, "No No I'm not eating those" and walks away!

Was hilarious because of the way it all went down and the guy behind the counter was yelling what the f--- am I gonna do with these now and he started to eat one. He really looked like he wanted to jump over the counter and kill the guy.
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Re:New Jersey Hot Dogs 2010/08/06 19:47:19 (permalink)
I went to the Galloping Hill Inn last night, after a few days of fine dining with my g/f who was visiting from out of town.  Had my usual double dog with fried onions and mustard, and a Yuengling draft.  They've been around long enough to afford plates and glasses rather than paper plates and plastic cups for the inside dining room, and no mustard on the table-had to ask for extra on the side.  Very good quality dogs, but they had Italian hot dogs on the specials board-at least they disclosed that it was served on a hoagie roll-guess it's not really an Italian hot dog after all.
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Re:New Jersey Hot Dogs 2010/08/06 20:12:24 (permalink)
Interesting. I never noticed an Italian Hot Dog on the menu before. Aside from the hoagie roll, I'm sure they use their regular beef/pork dog which is all wrong. Have to use a spicy beef dog.

I too get a double when I go. I agree, very good quality dogs.
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Re:New Jersey Hot Dogs 2010/08/06 21:11:32 (permalink)
Maybe you missed it, but it was on the specials board, not the menu.  When I read it I thought of you, because I know how parochial you are about Italian hot dogs.  I also honked the horn as I passed the Union Pork Store on the way to Five Points.  My g/f mentioned her kids remember their dad buying them bologna at the Union Pork Store.  I love their weisswurst.
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Re:New Jersey Hot Dogs 2010/08/07 05:52:47 (permalink)
Next time try the bratwurst. Best I've had.
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Re:New Jersey Hot Dogs 2010/08/07 07:56:59 (permalink)
<<Next time try the bratwurst. Best I've had. >>

John, I 100% agree with you on the Union Pork store bratwurst. My wife gets a kick out of the fact that I used to drive all over NJ and PA bringing home bratwurst until we tried Union Pork store, all of 5 miles away. I still drive all over the place....but not for bratwurst.
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Re:New Jersey Hot Dogs 2010/08/08 08:36:41 (permalink)
I found these bad boys in Tunkhannock, PA of all places.(Thank you Foodtown for putting the price label on front)


Never knew such an animal existed.  They hit the grill today!
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Re:New Jersey Hot Dogs 2010/08/08 12:43:10 (permalink)
joerogo,
All I can make out is that they're some kind of "Win" from Sabretts. What are they?
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Re:New Jersey Hot Dogs 2010/08/08 13:17:53 (permalink)
Looks like the famous WindMill franks made by Sabrett / Marathon, quite a few locations in NJ, they use to serve the same at Callahan's before they closed.
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Re:New Jersey Hot Dogs 2010/08/08 13:35:54 (permalink)
big g in joisey

Looks like the famous WindMill franks made by Sabrett / Marathon, quite a few locations in NJ, they use to serve the same at Callahan's before they closed.


What makes them different?
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Re:New Jersey Hot Dogs 2010/08/08 14:20:13 (permalink)
joerogo

I found these bad boys in Tunkhannock, PA of all places.(Thank you Foodtown for putting the price label on front)


Never knew such an animal existed.  They hit the grill today!







 i believe there 50% pork 50% beef................... and if i'm wrong , john fox will correct or  verified  them ..............  there very pale pinkish to be 100% beef like the dog's in the dirty water street version !!
post edited by Dog Boss - 2010/08/08 14:21:51
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Re:New Jersey Hot Dogs 2010/08/08 14:22:15 (permalink)
wow...Windmill franks available for home use...didn't know???Are they exactly the same, I wonder?
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Re:New Jersey Hot Dogs 2010/08/08 14:52:13 (permalink)
Pork n' beef natural casing franks - how can you go wrong? I think a pork and beef dog goes better with chili than a spicier all beef dog which competes too much with the chili. Windmill does them up on a griddle.
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Re:New Jersey Hot Dogs 2010/08/08 16:15:09 (permalink)
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wow...Windmill franks available for home use...didn't know???Are they exactly the same, I wonder?

Yes, they are the same as at Windmill restaurants. No doubt Windmill is obtaining a royalty on supermrket sales. Foodtown supermarkets have been selling them, at least during the summer months, for several years now. They have also turned up intermittantly in Pathmarks.
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Re:New Jersey Hot Dogs 2010/08/08 17:54:08 (permalink)
Sabrett makes 2 recipes; this one and their all beef. The one pictured is 50% beef and 50% pork. Although you can't see it in the picture, there are actually 8 franks in the package.

These are indeed the franks served at the Windmill and have been sold in stores for at least 5 years. Schickhaus (same size and similar recipe) are served at Max's.

If you like the Windmill franks, you can get them for a lot less money at a Sabrett distributor.

The Windmill franks are fairly expensive, but you can get
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Re:New Jersey Hot Dogs 2010/08/08 18:11:23 (permalink)
Hey Gang, Thanks for helping me out with the info.  I tried to peel off the Foodtown label, but the label below came off with it.
 
They are a pork and beek mix, made special just for Windmill and they are fantastic.
 
Because they are sooo huge, I started them off in a pot of simmering water for about 5-7 minutes, then put then on a hot gas grill.  Once they split open, I let them grill on the split until they were blazing hot with a nice crisp skin.  I used a larger soft steak roll and topped them with mustard, onion and a little Sabrett's red onion sauce.
 
Big G, One guy took a bite and said, "this is the dog I usually get at Callahan's, but they closed down".  He said he liked their Italian Dog also.
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Re:New Jersey Hot Dogs 2010/08/08 18:17:46 (permalink)
Hey John Fox, yes they are 8 to a package.  Just a little over 1/4 pound each.  At $4.99 per pound, it's about the same as any premium dog in my area.

So this would be one of the few times that a business can claim an exclusive recipe?
 
I thought the dog had great flavor.  But then again it could have been the excellent preperation
post edited by joerogo - 2010/08/08 18:21:15
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Re:New Jersey Hot Dogs 2010/08/08 18:18:05 (permalink)
Joerogo,

These dogs, while served at the Windmill, are not made special for them. Callahan's used the exact same dog, and a place in Carlstadt (I forget the name) on Rt 17 uses it as well. There are others. The Hot Grill in Clifton also uses this frank, but in a much smaller size. The Windmill grills them, The Hot Grill deep fries them as did Callahan's.
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Re:New Jersey Hot Dogs 2010/08/08 18:21:07 (permalink)
The Galloping Hill Inn in Union is one place that can claim an exclusive recipe.
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Re:New Jersey Hot Dogs 2010/08/08 18:32:39 (permalink)
sabrett used to have a distributor on rt 37 in toms river. Is it still there, does anybody know? I'd like to get those windmill hot dogs
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Re:New Jersey Hot Dogs 2010/08/08 22:05:07 (permalink)
leethebard

sabrett used to have a distributor on rt 37 in toms river. Is it still there, does anybody know? I'd like to get those windmill hot dogs

An old web directory lists it at 2024 Route 37 East. But, its phone number (732) 929 - 1412 does not show upon current directories. The Google street view for "2062 New Jersey 37" still shows the Sabrett sign, but a For Sale sign in front of the building.
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Re:New Jersey Hot Dogs 2010/08/08 22:44:54 (permalink)
I was just checking the web for a possible listing of Sabrett retail distributors (like the one on Rt 37, which I do think is closed) and came across this:

 http://www.sabrett.com/menufranks.cfm#ncfranksretail

What on earth is a "gas flushed" natural casing hot dog? Doesn't sound very appealing.


 
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Re:New Jersey Hot Dogs 2010/08/08 23:01:50 (permalink)
Gas Flushing refers to filling a food package with a mixture of gases to displace the air in it. This technique increases shelf life.
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Re:New Jersey Hot Dogs 2010/08/08 23:15:03 (permalink)
Thanks David. So, if I buy a package at retail (see code 410 on the link) are they also gas flushed? The list seems to say that "retail" is different from "gas flushed". Maybe I'm just too analytical. I've been accused of that.
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Re:New Jersey Hot Dogs 2010/08/09 13:00:35 (permalink)
I think the retail packages are vacuum packed.
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