Hot!New Jersey Hot Dogs

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TnGuy
Hamburger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/03/04 18:44:10
John:

This ex-Jersey patriot thoroughly and completely enjoyed being taken on a vicarious culinary excursion via your original S.W.A.T Team trip - and perhaps even more so with your follow-up discussion here at the forum. Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts and experiences with us. And I look forward to tasting some of your recommendations on our next trip back up north.


David
umbada
Hamburger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/03/04 22:52:46
quote:

71) Teddy's, Paterson

Teddy's is a converted bar that is located in a dingy industrial area. An obscure place that I had never heard of before, and am sure that not too many people know of. We went here based on an e-mail recommending it. The women on the team complained about the dirty restroom and were reluctant to eat here. It has the atmosphere of an old neighborhood bar, which it was in a previous life. As for the dogs, I was glad to discover that Teddy's served something a little different. I was expecting another small dirty water dog. What we got was a natural casing 6 to a lb Sabrett beef dog that was deep fried. And a great deal at $1.50. This seems to be the going rate for a dog half the size. I liked the dog. Sabrett is a tasty dog, and this one was fried long enough. Good and different. I don't remember what the chili tasted like, but my notes said thin, tasty chili. One of the team members called the chili "mushy, bland, baby food chili."


I practically grew up on Teddy's hot dogs. That's going back 50 years. At one point they sold their chili in the local Grand Union. Teddy's was very popular in Paterson in the 50s and at least into part of the 60s, which is when I moved out of New Jersey.
John Fox
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/03/05 20:40:37
Wow. Are you sure it was the same Teddy's? Paterson, especially going back to the 50's had many hot dog restaurants. This one is a converted bar.
umbada
Hamburger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/03/07 08:33:04
quote:
Originally posted by John Fox

Wow. Are you sure it was the same Teddy's? Paterson, especially going back to the 50's had many hot dog restaurants. This one is a converted bar.


Maybe not. As a rare contributor to the forum I'm under two handicaps in the form of huge gaps: I live in Canada, away from the scene; and I left New Jersey in the mid-Sixties, so I did not experience what happened in hot dog culture since then. So I mostly listen and learn and look forward to hopping back on the tour bus in September.
Akavar
Cheeseburger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/03/12 15:53:17
I stopped at J's Beef for lunch today.

There was a sign on the door stating that they would be on vacation until early April. I think the date was April 2nd.
John Fox
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/03/16 06:16:26
J's Beef has been sold. Jack, the owner sold the store at 902 W. St. Georges Ave. in Linden and will be moving to the Seaside Boardwalk. He will have a limited menu that will include the Chicago dog, but with a natural casing dog rather than skinless. The Linden location has been sold to Father & Son. If all goes according to schedule, Father & Son will be in the building to start construction around April 1st. Glad to hear of Father & Son's comeback, but sorry to lose J's Beef. It was the only place to get an authentic Chicago Style Hot Dog. Now we'll have to travel to Seaside.
Akavar
Cheeseburger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/03/16 08:10:21
John -

Thanks for the update. I look forward to getting a Chicago dog in Seaside when they are open again.
John Fox
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/03/23 22:13:21
Yesterday I stopped by Yianni's Texas Weiners and Luncheonette in Linden. Located at 243 W. St. Georges Ave. next to Dante Tuxedos. Very easy to miss, so drive slowly. There is parking in the back. They serve a Texas Weiner in the same style as Manny's and the Texas Weiner joints in and around Plainfield. Standard Grote & Weigel griddle frank topped with Texas Weiner sauce. This sauce is very similar to Texas Weiner ll in Greenbrook. The owner of Yianni's also works at and makes the chili at Texas Weiner ll. But although similar, it is not exactly the same. I think the chili at Yianni's is a little more flavorful. Big breakfast and lunch menu including a hot dog omelette. It's called Yianni's hot dog special omelette and has feta cheese & Tomato along with hot dog slices and eggs.

I also checked out Steve's Hut on Elizabeth Ave. in Linden. Dirty water Sabrett (natural casing 11 to a lb). served barely warm enough. Ok, but not worth going out of your way for. Unless you crave Father & Son chili, which someone said is served here. I forgot to ask.

My last stop was the Galloping Hill Inn for a dog with just mustard. It was the best of the day.

DPuro329
Cheeseburger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/03/23 23:11:46
I've stopped by Charlie's Pool Room in Alpha twice in the past 2 weeks. Wow that onion sauce is good. It's definately an interesting place.

DPuro329
big g in joisey
Cheeseburger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/03/24 11:59:30
A few days ago I stopped at the Jimmy Buff's location in East Hanover,
thought the double italian was good,only wish they would cook the potatoe's a little bit longer,also had 2 of the foot long Best's, thought these were also good,next time I will have to try the Schickhaus.
loucrew
Junior Burger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/03/24 20:06:59
Just thought I would let everyone know that Joyces Place in Brick seems to have one off to dog heaven. Been by there a lot in the last couple of weeks and it has not been open.
DPuro329
Cheeseburger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/03/25 11:55:09
loucrew,
I live in the area and have noticed in the past that Joyces opens later in the season (I think). I could be wrong though.

DPuro329
foobuc
Cheeseburger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/03/25 17:24:42
is Joyce's Place the hot dog place on Mantoloking road headed toward Bay Head?
DPuro329
Cheeseburger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/03/30 19:33:01
joyce's place is on route 88 in brick east of route 70.

DPuro329
Akavar
Cheeseburger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/03/31 11:42:16
I stopped at the Casino Restaurant in Trenton the other day. This place is listed on HollyEats as Casino Tony Goes.

They serve an interesting variation on the Italian dog. Instead of serving the dog on a half round "pizza" bread, they use a roll. The roll had a nice crust but was not too crispy. It stood up to the dog well.

The only complaint I had was that the place smelled horribly of burned grease. Hopefully this is temporary. If you are passing by Trenton at lunch, give this place a try.
John Fox
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/04/01 10:43:39
It probably was an aberration. Mijo's is close to where I work, and this week I had the Italian Hot Dog twice. Both times excellent. They usually use 6 to a lb dogs which are the largest I've had on an Italian dog. Plenty of potatoes and peppers as well. I omit onions.

A place in Elizabeth called Bruno's (formerly named Juniors) also makes a fine non traditional Italian Hot Dog. An eight inch sub roll is filled with 2 Best franks, plenty of peppers (again I get it w/o onions) and flavorful, better than average french fries. Cost is $5.50 Most pizzerias that serve Italian Hot Dogs use the sub or hoagie roll because demand is inconsistent and they don't always know how much pizza bread to order. When demand is slow, the bread goes bad, whereas there is always quick turnaround on the sub/hoagie rolls.

Joes Pizzeria in Union is one place that uses the traditional pizza bread. They get it from Carmens bakery, also in Union. Joe's also uses Best dogs and serves plenty of peppers. The potatoes are cut in chunks like Dickiee Dees. This place is a good choice for me when I don't want to travel to Jimmy Buffs or Tommy's.

The "Italian Hot Dog" at Casino Tony Goes is not only not an Itaian Hot Dog in the traditional sense, but isn't even similar to the non traditional ones mentioned above. First of all they don't even use beef hot dogs. A spicy beef dog is the only type of dog that goes well with the fried potatoes, peppers, onions, and oils. Which brings me to the second point. The ingredients aren't deep fried or sauteed, but prepared on a griddle. The peppers and potatoes aren't the right size either. They usually put a big piece or 2 of green pepper on the sandwich. Ugh! The potatoes look like some kind of hash that you get at White Diamond. Check out the picture on their website. It doesn't even look appetizing. Those around Trenton will no doubt disagree with me. Many like the sandwich here. But I would not call it an Italian Hot Dog. Not even in the non traditional sense. It is something altogether different.
Akavar
Cheeseburger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/04/01 16:18:40
Screenbear -

I stopped at Mijo's last summer. I remember it as being a very good dog. Also, the potatoes were crisp which I liked. The traditional Italian dog (Jimmy Buff's West Orange) is way too soft and greasy for my taste. I am not criticizing, just stating a preference.
Jimmy Buff
Junior Burger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/04/01 23:01:39
Funny you guys mentioned ventilation, in another post I wast bashed for cooking in a kitchen with excellent ventilation and not cooking out front. I was accused of not being an authentic italian hotdog store because they couldn't see or smell the dogs cooking. I guess your damed if you do and your damed if you don't. Personnally I prefer our new design and I guess the old timers are going to have to adjust. I have too many "suits" in for lunch and they cannot go back to work with that aroma on their clothes.
Akavar
Cheeseburger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/04/02 07:56:28
Jimmy Buff -

Yes - many times it seems that we are dammned if we do and damned if we don't. I just do what I think is best and let the chips fall where they may. And then learn from my mistakes. Keep up the good work.
Jimmy Buff
Junior Burger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/04/02 15:00:28
Akavar,
I read your post about being too greasy and the potatoes being to soft. Please when you order specify that you want your potatoes well done and your sandwich dry. We will be glad to make it any way you want.
tamandmik
Double Cheeseburger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/04/02 15:18:07
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Buff

Funny you guys mentioned ventilation, in another post I wast bashed for cooking in a kitchen with excellent ventilation and not cooking out front. I was accused of not being an authentic italian hotdog store because they couldn't see or smell the dogs cooking. I guess your damed if you do and your damed if you don't. Personnally I prefer our new design and I guess the old timers are going to have to adjust. I have too many "suits" in for lunch and they cannot go back to work with that aroma on their clothes.


Jimmy Buff,

For what it's worth, to this day I crave your hot dogs. Since I moved out of NJ, one of my best food memories was eating your Italian Hot Dogs at your Bloomfield Ave location in Caldwell (now since departed) as well as your original location. I plan on returning on Labor Day weekend, at which point one of my 3 planned food stops will be back at your location. I think you have an excellent product. My .02
Akavar
Cheeseburger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/04/02 17:37:35
Jimmy Buff -

Thanks for letting me know about the option of the dry sandwich. I have seen some of your earlier posts and was very impressed with your customer service.

You were on my list as my next hot dog place to visit - as soon as I can get away from my new project down here in Flemington. Now that I know that I have an option I will work on getting there even sooner.

Thanks for the help.
John Fox
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/04/11 11:54:56
I was at Jimmy Buff's East Hanover location yesterday. Although it's been mentioned here before, it bears repeating that every Tuesday is Fat Tuesday with double Italian Hot Dogs 1/2 price. This is at the West Orange and East Hanover locations. I had an excellent sandwich yesterday. Every ingredient was extraordinary and the bread is easily the best that I've had on an Italian Hot Dog. Delivered fresh every day from a nearby bakery and never frozen.


Jimmy Buff's will be having a Cardboard Cutout Contest at their East Hanover store. Strike a pose eating a Jimmy Buff's hot dog. Pictures will be taken every Sunday and posted on http://www.jimmybuff.com to be viewed and voted on. The winner will have a life size cardboard cutout displayed in the store. The winner will be anounced in July.

STARTRADER
Junior Burger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/04/11 12:45:24
John, I agree with your assessments of the hot dog places. Living in North Jersey I have been to most of them and many in CT as well as Coney Island Lunch in Scranton which is my favorite of the two there. Blackie's is more famous for the great relish than the hot dogs in my opinion. My favorites are Rutt's Hut (where the onion rings and fries are great also), The Hot Grille, and for Italian Hot Dogs Jimmy Buff's. I didn't notice Doogie's in Newington, CT mentioned which is my favorite in CT. I have heard that JK's in Danbury is outstanding also. As far as Hamburgers go, the White Mana in Hackensack is a must. You can find additional info on all of these places on Roadfood or Holly Eats or both.
Benzee
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/04/12 22:16:17
Hello all ,

We will be having the Hudson Valley Hot Dog Tour this Saturday April 14th .
Meet at High Noon - Coney Island Resturant in Middletown NY
Visits to include
Richs Hot Dog House -Middletown
Kand T Truck between Midd. and Newburgh
Petes in Newburgh
Worlds Best in Newburgh

Attendees include
John Fox
Screenbear
Coney Island Lou
Seafarer John
Brooklyn Bill
And More

Carpool or your own vehicle is the mode of transportation for the day
Email me if you need further info

Benzee
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/04/14 18:19:13
Thanks for the post - we'll try to check out these places. We wanted to recommend Yocco's Hot Dogs in the Allentown, PA area. They have a few locations - these dogs are well done and the meat is spicy - very firm and flavorful. Their special chili is unlike any we've had - thin body - full flavor and dark brown color. They are one of our favorites - :)We just left Rutt's Hut in Clifton NJ - we are continuing our best chili dog quest.


quote]Originally posted by John Fox

I am a hot dog fanatic from N.J. I believe that we have the best and widest variety of hot dogs in the country. Everything from Italian Hot Dogs and Texas Weiners (both originated in North Jersey) to kosher style all beef dogs, German style pork and beef, deep fried rippers, dirty water dogs; N.J. has it all.

Connecticut runs a close second. Hummel and Grote & Weigel make excellent all beef dogs in the kosher style. Grote & Weigel makes great beef and pork franks; many of which are served in Jersey hot dog joints. My favorite Conn. frank is the deep fried dog at S****y Franks. A tasty Hummel dog. I've tried Super Duper Weenie. A beef/pork mix that is good; but I prefer the Grote & Weigel beef/pork frank and Thumann's (the best beef/pork frank in my opinion). Rawley's was ok; I prefer the other 2 Conn. places. If you like a pork based deep fried dog, nowhere beats Rutt's Hut. They use a Thumann's dog that is specially made for deep frying. It rips open when cooked long enough. Their relish is the best hot dog condiment there is. See the Sterns reviews of these places elsewhere on Roadfood.

My favorite dogs of each type, which I highly reccomend are:

1) Italain Hot Dog: Charlies Famous in Kenilworth, N.J. An Italian Hot Dog is 1 or 2 deep fried all beef dogs (usually Best's from Newark, N.J.) in circular Italian pizza bread topped with deep fried peppers, potatoes, and onions. Charlies has better peppers and gives you more vegetables and bigger dogs than Jimmy Buff's which is the originator of this type of sandwich. Jimmy Buff's (many locations) and Tommy's in Elizabeth are also good.

2) Kosher style grilled all beef dog: Syd's in Union, N.J. A big (5 to a lb) Best's all beef dog simmerred in water than charbroiled. Best all beef dog I've had. Father & Son in Linden (Grote & Weigel all beef) slow cooked on a griddle, and Boulevard Drinks in Jersey City (Sabrett) griddled, are good too.

3) German Style Pork/Beef: Galloping Hill Inn in Union (Grote & Weigel) has a flavorfull but subtle flavor. Made specially for them by G&W, it is different than other G&W dogs. A big, sturdy football shaped bun makes this a unique dog. Max's (Schickhaus) and the Windmill (Sabrett beef and pork) are also good.

4) Texas Weiner. This is a dog covered with chili sauce, mustard and onions. The "Hot" Texas Weiner is a deep fried dog with thinner and spicier chili. The "Plainfield area" Texas Weiner is griddled and served with thicker chili sauce. The best "hot" Texas Weiner is from the Hot Grill in Clifton. Libby's and the Goffle Grill are good also. For a great "Plainfield area" Texas Weiner, go to Texas Weiner ll on rt 22 in Greenbrook.

5) Deep Fried: Rutt's Hut. Cooked to different degrees of doneness. In and out (cooked just enough to eat) Ripper (cooked till the skin rips) Weller (more well done) and cremator (black). The best homemade relish. Hiram's (same Thumann's dog) and Callahan's (Sabrett beef and pork) are also good.

6) Dirty Water: Jerry's in Elizabeth. A best brand dog boiled and then finished off on a grill for extra crunchiness. Dees truck in Roselle Park is good also.

If you need directions to any of these places, feel free to cntact me. Oh, and for cooking at home, Usinger's from Milwaukee (usinger.com) and Best's from Newark, N.J. make the best all beef dogs. Sabrett, Grote & Weigle, and Hummel are very good too. For beef and pork, Thumann's makes the best dog. Schickhaus and Grote & Weigel are also very good. The Union Pork Store makes good home made German Franks and the best bratwurst you will ever taste. Forgive the long post, but hot dogs are one of my passions.
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Big Frank
Cheeseburger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/04/14 20:40:05
Yocco's Chili Dogs are good especially with pierogis on the side.
John Fox
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/04/15 12:21:02
Originally posted by Mr. And Mrs. yocco dog

Thanks for the post - we'll try to check out these places. We wanted to recommend Yocco's Hot Dogs in the Allentown, PA area. They have a few locations - these dogs are well done and the meat is spicy - very firm and flavorful. Their special chili is unlike any we've had - thin body - full flavor and dark brown color. They are one of our favorites - :)We just left Rutt's Hut in Clifton NJ - we are continuing our best chili dog quest.

Wow, this was the first post of this long thread. I hope you read the rest of it since many new places have been visited and reviewed since then.
John Fox
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/04/15 13:21:01
This past week I had a chance to visit a restaurant for the first time. Attilio's Kitchen in Denville has been open for 10 years, and , unknown to me until now, has a reputation as one of the finest Italian restaurants in New Jersey. The last three years they have been named the best Italian Restaurant in Morris County. One of the owners is Gino Pesci, cousin of actor Joe Pesci. I knew nothing about the place or even what kind of restaurant it was. I went because recently I've heard from 2 different people that they serve the best Italian Hot Dog in Jersey.

I decided to go and see for myself. Unless you are a hot dog fanatic like me, you come here for posssibly the best Italian food in the state. Even if you are a hot dog fanatic, you should still come here for Italian food. And the Italian Hot Dogs, which are top notch. A beautiful restaurant which definitely has the best atmosphere of any restaurant I've been to. The building is the restored 19th century E.C.Peer General Store that dates back to before the Civil War. It was a store as well as a residence. It has a rustic, log cabin feel to it. Much of their homemade food is available in their store to take home. There are a few dining rooms as well as a couple of private dining rooms upstairs that you can reserve.

I was so impressed with the place itself that when I returned home I googled it and read many reviews, all of which were positive. Since I was there for an Italian Hot Dog, that is what I ordered. But while there, I was told that the homemade mozzarella came in 2nd place in the Star Ledger Munchmobile's contest held a few years ago. That's impressive since there were close to a thousand entries. I decided to order it as an appetizer. The mozzarella came with peppers and black olives, and was outstanding. Better than any I've had.

As for the Italian Hot Dog, it was better than what I anticipated. I had expected a good one based on what I heard, but the sandwich here I would put in the top tier of Italian Hot Dogs along with Jimmy Buff's East Hanover and Tommy's in Elizabeth. The bread was good, thick, and sturdy. Very similar to what is served at the Jimmy Buff's mentioned. It comes from JC's bakery in Parsippany. The dogs are from Best's and are 8 to a lb in size. The green peppers (I don't get onions) were done perfectly and generously applied. As good as I've had anywhere. The potatoes were tasty and cut in chunks like Dickiee Dees rather than in thin slices like Jimmy Buff's or Tommy's. I usually prefer the thin sliced potatoes, but these were fine.

I would definitely recommend the Italian Hot Dog if you live in the area and crave one for lunch. But unless hot dogs are your favorite thing to eat (like they are for me) I suggest that if you're going to travel here, come for the other food. The website is http://www.attilioskitchen.com. I noticed many people eating pizzas (it was lunch time) so I ordered 2 to take home for later. I got the Pizza Margherita and the Pizza Gorgonzola. Both were fantastic heated in the oven later, but I especially enjoyed the Pizza Gorgonzola with mozzarella, gorgonzola cheese, mushrooms, and bacon. One of the best pizzas I've had.

Before I left I got to talk with Gino Pesci. He makes it a point to try and meet everyone who visits his restaurant. Of course, I spoke with him about the Italian Hot Dog. He grew up in Newark and ate many Italian Hot Dogs at Dickiee Dees. That's why the potatoes are similar. And that's why you can get a great Italian Hot Dog in Morris County where you don't usually see them. But the sandwich here is much better than Dickiee Dees. The bread is better, the dogs are bigger, peppers are soft instaed of crunchy, and while the potatoes are similar, they're better at Attilio's.

There is no liquor license, so bring your own. There is a lunch and dinner menu (see website) and entertainment on Friday and Saturday evenings. I'll be back soon.
tuxedo
Junior Burger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/04/16 14:53:48
I grew up in Paterson..a place that had the most - imho - places for "hot dogs all the way" - Have not been back there is years - can anybody tell me what places still exist? Planning on White Mana for burgers soon, maybe will do dogs on the same trip
eggsactley
Cheeseburger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/04/16 19:09:06
I'm partial to Libby's Lunch. I like the old diner vibe there.
John Fox
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/04/16 19:20:24
In Paterson you have Libby's, Duffy's Grill, (where Johnny & Hanges used to be) and numerous luncheonettes that serve Texas Weiners or "hot dogs all the way". In Clifton there is the Hot Grill, Corral, and Getty Grill. In Totowa there is Pappy's Diner. Falls View has close to 10 locations scattered around North Jersey. Johnny & Hanges is in Fair Lawn. Just drive around anywhere near Paterson and you're bound to find a number of places that have what you're looking for.
DPuro329
Cheeseburger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/04/17 16:10:36
Hi all,
Anyone hear or know anything about J's Beef on the Seaside boardwalk? I'm guessing it'll be a seasonal operation?

I had 2 dogs today from 2 different places in Red Bank. Had one with "everything" from G&G's Truck. Pretty good dog, although I prefer a belly buster from JJ's or Tony's. The roll was a little stale, possibly because of his outdoor location and the past few days weather? Second dog was from That Hot Dog Place in an alley off Monmouth St. The website is http://www.soupmeister.com. The owner has some local fame because of his soups, but the dogs are good too, dirty water Sabretts and grilled 1/4 pounders (not sure of the brand). I had his version of a chicago dog, no idea how accurate it was, but it was good. I think he used regular relish and not the infamous Chicago relish I've read about, and hot spicy relish in place of sport peppers. There was mustard, a pickle spear, sliced tomatoes and celery salt. The roll was a smallish sub roll, no poppy seads. Again I have no idea how accurate the dog was but it was good.

DPuro329
John Fox
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/04/27 06:40:48
Tommy's South, 2nd location of Tommy's Italian Hot Dogs and Sausages is closed for good. I was at Tommy's in Elizabeth Sunday and asked about their North Brunswick store. I had heard that it was being remodeled, but that isn't the case. I guess in that part of Jersey they don't really get the Italian Hot Dog.

On another note, the Mexican restaurant located where Frank & Fries was is now closed. Maybe that location is jinxed.
foobuc
Cheeseburger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/04/27 14:29:42
yikes! i only made it to tommy's south the one time because i am trying to keep up w/ this diet. too bad it closed.
Akavar
Cheeseburger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/05/10 10:49:11
I stopped at Jimmy Buff's in East Hanover the other day. My quest was to find an Italian Dog that I liked. The only one I had tried that I liked was at Mijo's.

What I liked about that dog was that it was relatively dry and the potatoes were crisp. I prefer my potatoes to be crisp especially in things like hash browns and home fries.

I had read some postings on this forum by Jimmy Buff and was inclined to give his recommendations a try. He recommended ordering a "dry sandwich" and the potatoes well done. This seemed to throw the lady at the counter who took my order - she did not seem to quite know what I was talking about, but she took the order anyway.

Jimmy Buff's runs a Tuesday special of a double Italian dog for the price of a single. It was Tuesday so I ordered the double.

From reading Jimmy Buff's posts on this board I was impressed by his dedication to customer service. I had a chance to chat with Jimmy as he made my dogs and found him to be very friendly and customer oriented.

Once I got my dogs I carefully picked the potatoes off and let them cool on the side. I tried one of them and they were nice and crisp - but too hot to eat immediately.

Instead, I started to work on the double dog. Nestled under a nice pile of soft fried onions and peppers were two fried hot dogs. They had just the right snap and spices to compliment the onions and peppers. A light coating of brown mustard inside the soft but firm half moon of bread tied the sandwich together.

As the potatoes cooled off I started to eat them as well. The quest was accomplished - I had found an Italian dog that I liked. Although Italian dogs may never become my first choice (having been born and raised on the south side of Chicago my preferences lie there) I have found somewhere that makes an Italian dog that suits my preferences.

I also discovered that Jimmy Buff's makes an amazing foot long dog. I have read what John Fox says about this dog and completely agree with him. The foot long dog is a great experience.

As John says, it is deep fried and then finished on a grill. This gives the dog a wonderful snap as well as great flavor. Put a little brown mustard on this dog and you have a great balance between the snap of the dog, the spices in the dog, the mustard, and the flavors from the way the dog was cooked.

All of that pales when you put the chili that Jimmy serves with this dog on the dog itself. I have eaten a lot of chili in a lot places over the years. I have never encountered a chili quite like this one.

Over the past year I have sampled several hot dog chilis at different places around New Jersey and elsewhere. The most common type of chili served on dogs is what I refer to as Greek or Cincinnati chili. This is a sweet chili that is heavy on spices like cloves, mace, and cinnamnon. The other kind of chili is a traditional TexMex chili - sometimes including beans.

John Fox describes the chili at Jimmy Buff's East Hanover as "Bolognese" style. For those who do not watch Molto Mario, Bolognese is a style of tomato based meat sauce that is heavy on the meat and served on pasta. I agree with this description as a "Bolognese" style chili rather than pasta sauce.

The little cup of chili that Jimmy serves is just the right amount for you to put some on your foot long dog and eat a little directly. I liked it both ways. It complimented the dog perfectly.

In eating the chili directly I found it had a bit of sweetness and a bit of green pepper flavor and a bit of hot pepper bite. Not a lot of heat - just enough that you knew it was there. Jimmy also appears to chop his own meat that he puts in the chili. The different sizes of the chopped meat also lend an interesting mouth feel to this chili.

The foot long hot dog was a bonus on my quest. I went looking for an Italian hot dog and found a great foot long dog and some wonderful chili. It is a bit of a drive from Flemington up to East Hanover, but I will definitely stop in at Jimmy Buff's the next time I am in the area.
John Fox
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/05/11 06:20:18
Akavar,

I'm glad that you liked Jimmy Buffs and enjoyed reading about your visit there. As I've mentioned in the past, this particular Jimmy Buffs location (as well as the West Orange one) is owned by Jim while the others are owned by his uncle. The uncle's locations make them differently and they are not what you would consider dry.

The footlong is my favorite hot dog anywhere. You can also specify if you want it charbroiled without it being put in oil (like Syd's prepared them) or just boiled. As for the chili, it is unique and good. Leo Fontanella, who went on the last tour described the chili to me as bolognese style. Leo knows Italian food.

I'm looking forward to including Jimmy Buffs on the New Jersey Hot Dog Tour in September. In fact, they would make a mini tour all by themselves. In addition to their Italian Hot Dogs and footlongs, they also serve a boiled natural casing 8 to a lb which is similar to Jerry's in Elizabeth, and a quarter pound Schickhaus. This is the Max's dog, but at Jimmy Buffs it is griddled and then put on the charcoal grill. It is better than Max's; especially if you top it with that chili.
Akavar
Cheeseburger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/05/11 07:15:11
John -

That would be great if you are able to include Jimmy Buff's East Hanover on the next tour.

I will have to take your recommendation and try the quarter pound Schickhaus dog with Jimmy Buff's chili. If I remember correctly, Max's chili is a traditional TexMex with beans. It has an interesting taste but is thin and does not cover the dog evenly. And the beans tend to make what I find as an odd mouth feel. These are not meant as criticisms - just a notation of the differences that make Max's chili unique.
Benzee
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/05/11 08:59:09
Hello all ,
Great idea to include Jimmy Buffs for our 4th Annual Jersey Hot Dog Tour on Sept 15th , 2007 . Details on thread in Misc. Foods section .

I'm thinking of stopping by Jimmy Buffs East Hanover on Tuesday for their double special .

Question is I need good directions from the GW Bridge into Jersey .
Any help guys . ?

Benzee
Akavar
Cheeseburger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/05/11 09:41:13
Benzee -

I don't know north Jersey very well so i can't help you from the GW Bridge. I came west on the GS Parkway from Newark on I-280. I got off at exit 4A and took Eisenhower Pkwy (609) south to 10 west. West on 10 for a couple of miles will bring you to the Castle Ridge shopping plaza. Jimmy Buff's is on the far west end of the plaza facing the side road not 10.

Enjoy.
eggsactley
Cheeseburger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/05/11 20:22:34
Benzee: from the GWB 95 south to 80 west to 287 south to 10 east
eggsactley
Cheeseburger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/05/11 20:37:34
Benzee: try to double check the direction on rte 10 before you go...had a senior moment and was thinking of J&R cigars which would definitely be 10 east. I haven't been up that way in awhile. Looking foward to checking this Jimmy Buffs when i do find myself in the area.
John Fox
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/05/12 06:14:08
quote:
Originally posted by Akavar

John -

That would be great if you are able to include Jimmy Buff's East Hanover on the next tour.

I will have to take your recommendation and try the quarter pound Schickhaus dog with Jimmy Buff's chili. If I remember correctly, Max's chili is a traditional TexMex with beans. It has an interesting taste but is thin and does not cover the dog evenly. And the beans tend to make what I find as an odd mouth feel. These are not meant as criticisms - just a notation of the differences that make Max's chili unique.


I've never had the chili at Max's. This past year with the Munchmobile, we went to Max's right after the Windmill. No one that tried the chili at Max's liked it. The Windmill's (which I also didn't try) finished 2nd place for chili.
Akavar
Cheeseburger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/05/12 09:13:50
Benzee -

Jimmy Buff's in East Hanover is definitely on 10 West. If you like cigars definitely check out J&R - it is a few miles west of Jimmy Buff's and on 10 East.
Akavar
Cheeseburger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/05/12 09:17:36
John -

I get over to the Sea Girt area in the summer and try to check out Max's and Windmill in Long Branch when time allows. I like the chili at Windmill. It is the Greek/Cincinnati style chili. However, I am partial to the kraut dog at Windwill. The times I have tried the onion rings I have liked them also.
Benzee
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/05/12 09:42:59
Hello all ,

Thanks guys for the directions . Let me get this straight from Rt. 287 south to 10 west . Correct .!
I will be checking this place out early afternoon on Tuesday and give you a complete report on my return .

Benzee
Akavar
Cheeseburger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/05/12 10:13:20
Benzee -

If you come from 287 you have to take 10 east.

The road is divided and the section that runs east is called "10 East". The section that runs west is called "10 West".

From 287 you will take "10 East" several miles until you pass the Castle Ridge shopping center, which will be on you left. After you pass the shopping center you will make a Jersey U Turn to get on "10 West" to double back to the shopping center. Jimmy Buff's is at the far (west) end of the shopping center.
eggsactley
Cheeseburger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/05/12 13:49:24
Akavar: thanks for the comeback...I'll be the guy in the green truck southbound on 287 with a belly full of dogs and a cigar in my face.
Benzee
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/05/13 10:16:26
Akavar ,
Would have hated to be lost in Jersey . Hahahaha
Thanks for those great directions .

Benzee
Akavar
Cheeseburger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/05/14 12:13:23
I was over towards Phillipsburg on Saturday so I decided to stop at Toby's Cup for a dog. I got there a few minutes before noon and they were doing a lot of business.

I just wanted a nibble so I ordered just one dog. They make a deep fried dog and put it on a regular bun. I had mine with mustard, onions and pickle.

Although there was nothing spectacular about this dog, it was very good. The dog had a nice external texture and a good taste. It was nicely complimented by the yellow mustard and fresh onions.

Also, the price at Toby's Cup is right. The single dog was .90. That's right 90 cents for a dog.

The reason I only had one dog was that I was headed to Charlie's Pool Room in Alpha. I had a couple of mealies for the main part of my lunch. These dogs are unique in their preparation. The sauce was great and I had another nice lunch at Charlie's.
eggsactley
Cheeseburger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/05/14 17:36:15
I've been stopping at Toby's for damn near 40 years...the place hasn't changed a bit. Back when my stomach allowed I loved the milkshakes. Now it's just dogs and cheesesteaks for me.
Akavar
Cheeseburger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/05/14 19:15:56
Eggs -

I noticed a lot of people ordering the milkshakes. I will have to try one of those on my next visit.
John Fox
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/05/14 20:42:44
Toby's Cup is my favorite dog in West Jersey. The Berks dog is good, and like Akavar says, it's not spectacular, but the combination of the dog fried in peanut oil and topped with mustard and a dill pickle slice really hits the spot. Small and inexpensive, I call Toby's the White Castle of hot dogs. And the shakes are very good. They come regular and extra thick. I've had the regular and it is thick enough. One of the better shakes I've had. I'll have to try the cheesesteak next. Don't make the trip on Tuesday, as it's the only day they are closed.
Akavar
Cheeseburger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/05/18 12:02:23
I stopped at a place called Buddy's Grab 'n Go in Flemington for the first time the other day. He opened about a year ago and this procrastinator just got around to trying a couple of dogs. Buddy's is a little store front that is in downtown Flemington directly across from the Post Office. They serve other kinds of sandwiches and make milkshakes. I did not try either yet.

I tried one dog with chili and the other with cooked onions. The chili did not do much for me. I will have to try it again to make sure it was not a bad batch.

I liked the dog with cooked onions very much. This is a dirty water dog covered with a mild version of hot onions. I did not ask what kind of dog was used - I will do so next time.

The dog itself had a nice balance of spices. I thought the cooked onions were excellent. They had just the right amount of spicy heat for me. The few times I have tried hot onions they have been way to spicy for me.
eggsactley
Cheeseburger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/05/19 09:15:11
John: be advised that Toby's cheesesteak is served with chopped onion.
John Fox
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/05/19 15:03:29
Can you get it without? If not, I'll have to pass.
eggsactley
Cheeseburger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/05/19 16:18:47
John: indeed you can...just wanted to warn you how it would be served if you didn't specify otherwise.
DPuro329
Cheeseburger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/05/19 20:33:28
Akavar,
Where in Flemington is Buddy's? I'm there at least once a week for work. I don't know the area that well other than routes 31/202/12.

Thanks

DPuro329
Akavar
Cheeseburger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/05/20 10:53:54
DPuro -

Buddy's is on Main Street in downtown Flemington. If you can tell me how you go through Flemington I could give you more exact directions.
Akavar
Cheeseburger
RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs 2007/05/20 13:09:31
Stewart's Drive In, Lebanon, NJ

Over on the NJ Hot Dog Tour board http://www.roadfood.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10337&whichpage=1 we were discussing starting the Flemington Mini Meet at Stewart's Drive In in Lebanon.

I checked it out the other day and I think it will suit our purposes. I stopped toward the end of the lunch hour and ordered a "Texas style" dog, fries, and a small root beer.

The Texas style dog is served with onions and mustard, covered with their chili. I found the chili to be good and the dog to have nice flavor with a little snap. It appeared to be a dirty water dog.

The fries were warm and crisp. The root beer was good, but not outstanding. The service was prompt and courteous. There appears to be enough parking for us to leave a few cars while we car pool for the Flemingon Mini Meet.
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