OMG Defective dry ice??

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2009/11/23 04:37:09 (permalink)

OMG Defective dry ice??

:'(  I can't believe this.  A few months ago I transported some ice cream from the SF Bay area to Sacramento.  Total travel time, pre train, train and post train total time around 6 hours.  Hell, I think it sat around in the hot sun another hour as I recall.  I used a Trader Joe's blue soft sided cooler and 5 lbs of dry ice for 4 pints of ice cream.  I lined the cooler with a towel, a layer of dry ice in plastic but ventilated, the ice cream, then another layer of dry ice.  The ice cream was still frozen solid when I finally put it in the freezer.  There was little or no dry ice left.
 
Yesterday I did the same thing, in fact travel time was shorter.  I opened the cooler to find the dry ice intact and the ice cream completely melted.  Two pints had been laid on their sides and the tops had popped off and melted (room temp) ice cream was all over the place.  One pint survived but yeah, whoopie - at $7. a pound yum melted and re-frozen.. not. 
 
Any thoughts on what I may have done wrong?  Is there any such thing as defective dry ice?  The cooler was zipped all the way closed both times.
 
I'm really mad at myself right now.  It's like an inner voice is telling me "See???  You didn't need that ice cream and so you're being punished for giving in to your gluttony and spending all that money!!!"
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    EatingTheRoad
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    Re:OMG Defective dry ice?? 2009/11/23 08:13:02 (permalink)
    Sorry I don't have advice or suggestions...not sure what went wrong...but I wanted to offer my condolences. Melty ice cream does not for a good dessert make.

    That's a sad tale. I hate when you've gone through the trouble and you're looking forward to something and then it's no more.

    No Trader Joe's in Sacramento?
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    Re:OMG Defective dry ice?? 2009/11/24 23:59:13 (permalink)
    Around every corner.  Why?
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    Re:OMG Defective dry ice?? 2009/11/25 08:10:46 (permalink)
    My mistake...when I first read your post I took it to mean the ice cream was from Trader Joe's and was wondering why you couldn't have gotten some in Sacramento. Oops. Where was the ice cream from...and what flavors?
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    Re:OMG Defective dry ice?? 2009/11/25 09:20:49 (permalink)
    OMG you just proved global warming does exist.
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    Re:OMG Defective dry ice?? 2009/11/27 03:46:14 (permalink)
    LOL ETR - I thought you were going to say accuse TJ's of selling me a defective cooler.  I had 2 pints of Carob Honey, 1 Saffron Pistachio and 1 Industrial Chocolate.
     
    The ice cream in question is from Rick's in  Palo Alto:
     
    http://www.ricksicecream.com/
    post edited by rainyday6 - 2009/11/27 03:49:11
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    Re:OMG Defective dry ice?? 2009/11/27 08:02:33 (permalink)
    That's a sad story...I hope you figure it out so it doesn't happen again next time. I think markolenski has the reason.

    ...and those sound like such good flavors...just not melted and mixed together on the bottom of a cooler.
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    Re:OMG Defective dry ice?? 2009/11/29 00:02:03 (permalink)
    i've shipped quite a bit of frozen fish from seattle to illinois packed in dry ice, and haven't had any problems. a thick styrofoam chest works the best, and most of the dry ice should be placed on top. try to minimize empty areas, that's usually not a problem for me but 4 pints of ice cream isn't much volume in an ice chest..
     
     i don't think any soft-sided cooler will have enough insulation to keep frozen food frozen..
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    Re:OMG Defective dry ice?? 2009/11/29 01:38:44 (permalink)
    Was there pressure in the cooler when you opened it?
    Was the surface of the dry ice cold after you opened the cooler?
    Did the dry ice turn to a gas later?
    To keep the dry ice from turning to a gas and releasing it's cold power all you have to do is keep it at 69 F and 60 PSI, you could have created that by sealing the plastic cooler tight.
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    Re:OMG Defective dry ice?? 2009/11/29 02:35:04 (permalink)
    Sorry to hear of your bad fortune there...  Just glad the cooler was lacking warm liquid.. I could just see being on the train with gas looking like smoke seeping out of that cooler, that last pint would have never made it home either.


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    Re:OMG Defective dry ice?? 2009/11/30 04:39:09 (permalink)
    Icecreamman I think you solved the mystery.  The only difference  between the first time and this time was the weather.  Hotter than Hades the first time, very chilly this time.  Ice was still there, so it didn't turn into gas.  It had to have been the temp.  Even the train was cold inside.  Live and learn.

    Vic, believe it or not it's ok with Amtrak and along the way I learned  it's ok with the airlines, too.  In both cases it has to be sealed in such a way as not to allow a lot of "fog" but seems a little is ok.  I can't imagine what I'd do if I saw that at 30,000 feet!
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    Re:OMG Defective dry ice?? 2009/11/30 04:40:11 (permalink)
    Meant to say I just found out Ricks was featured in Gourmet awhile back!
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    Re:OMG Defective dry ice?? 2009/11/30 08:32:00 (permalink)
    Next time leave the drain plug open so no pressure can build up in the plastic cooler.
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