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firefun3

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OMG...help! Thu, 09/14/06 8:41 PM (permalink)
Hello! I just made a batch of chili...ground beef, ground turkey, chili beans, tomatoes with diced green chilies, chili powder, ground ancho chile pepper, black pepper, and a touch of cumin...and while it smells wonderful,

OMG!!! It is BLAND!!!!

It has some heat to it, but the flavor just isn't there. Any ideas on what I can add to help it out? I do not want to add any more heat!

Thanks!
 
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    TheHotPepper.com

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    RE: OMG...help! Thu, 09/14/06 8:42 PM (permalink)
    Salt and garlic.
     
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      firefun3

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      RE: OMG...help! Thu, 09/14/06 8:46 PM (permalink)
      I'll try that!

      I'm wondering if the meat isn't to blame. MAybe it wasn't as fresh as it could have been...I just bough it this afternoon, though...

      I made it EXACTLY the same as I do every other time...

      If I can't "fix" it, I have a HUGE crock pot full of a waste of time!

      AAARGH!!!
       
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        TheHotPepper.com

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        RE: OMG...help! Thu, 09/14/06 9:01 PM (permalink)
        Salt is a flavor enhancer. Try salt first, but don't over salt! If it brightens the flavor, but you need another component, try some garlic.
         
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          UncleVic

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          RE: OMG...help! Thu, 09/14/06 10:19 PM (permalink)
          Garlic and chili powder. Salt will help also, only if your about done with it... (Otherwise avoid adding it till the end).. Few dashs of cummin wont hurt either..

          Oh ya, should have added a finely chopped onion at the start.. Makes a world of difference in the end result. I use both finely chopped and course chopped (course for the texture)..

          Get a can of V8, use it instead of water, thin it out, added the above and let it simmer a couple three more hours!

           
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            salsailsa

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            RE: OMG...help! Thu, 09/14/06 10:38 PM (permalink)
            Definately agree with Uncle Vic- ONION! I usually saute diced onion and garlic at the beginning. I also add quite a bit of cumin to my chili- 2 tsps.
             
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              TheHotPepper.com

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              RE: OMG...help! Fri, 09/15/06 12:42 AM (permalink)
              How'd it turn out?
               
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                roossy90

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                RE: OMG...help! Fri, 09/15/06 2:22 AM (permalink)
                Turkey.???
                No wonder its bland.
                Try some ground pork.......
                 
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                  TheHotPepper.com

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                  RE: OMG...help! Fri, 09/15/06 2:24 AM (permalink)
                  Yeah, that's true. Ground turkey tastes like ground beef that's been boiled, no matter how you cook it!
                   
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                    roossy90

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                    RE: OMG...help! Fri, 09/15/06 2:26 AM (permalink)
                    quote:
                    Originally posted by TheHotPepper.com

                    Yeah, that's true. Ground turkey tastes like ground beef that's been boiled, no matter how you cook it!

                    May as well have used chicken..
                    LOL..
                    Good comparison to the boiled beef and turkey..
                    ROFL....
                     
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                      Scorereader

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                      RE: OMG...help! Fri, 09/15/06 9:16 AM (permalink)
                      quote:
                      Originally posted by TheHotPepper.com

                      Yeah, that's true. Ground turkey tastes like ground beef that's been boiled, no matter how you cook it!


                      maybe how YOU cook it. But I've been successful as making ground turkey tacos with no complaints from beef eaters. It's all in the prep.
                       
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                        Ashphalt

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                        RE: OMG...help! Fri, 09/15/06 9:31 AM (permalink)
                        I didn't see any oregano in there. Most recipes I like call for up to a tablespoon of the common Mexican oregano, not the deluxe Greek or Turkish. I sometimes forget and my Wife tastes and pulls out the oregano.
                         
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                          PapaJoe8

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                          RE: OMG...help! Fri, 09/15/06 1:47 PM (permalink)
                          A touch of cumin??? Thats the problem! Lots of Cumin, about a teaspoon ( at least ) per lb. of meat. And yes, garlic. A pack ot taco seasoning might help? I have made lots of turkey chili that came out good. You just gotta keep cookin n addin till it tasts right.

                          Every pot has it's own soal.
                          Joe
                           
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                            ann peeples

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                            RE: OMG...help! Fri, 09/15/06 1:49 PM (permalink)
                            Papajoe beat me-cumin is a must!
                             
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                              xannie_01

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                              RE: OMG...help! Fri, 09/15/06 1:51 PM (permalink)
                              PapaJoe knows his chili
                               
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                                fabulousoyster

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                                RE: OMG...help! Fri, 09/15/06 1:57 PM (permalink)
                                1/4 tsp finely crushed in your hands oregano.
                                No, it won't make it italian style, it will enhance the chili flavor along with the cumin.
                                 
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                                  Scorereader

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                                  RE: OMG...help! Fri, 09/15/06 3:13 PM (permalink)
                                  PapaJoe knows his stuff. It's so true that everytime you use ground turkey the amount and balance of spices is different. It has to be to taste, there's just no other way.
                                  I got lazy in the past and just used my usual amounts and wound up with that "boiled bland beef" flavor. But, one time only. the next time around I wasn't so casual.
                                  It's tough doing the turkey thing compared to beef, but my wife is a dancer and we own a performing arts company, so heathy eating is essential during rehearsal and show times. I prefer the beef, but turkey rules in season.

                                   
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                                    RE: OMG...help! Fri, 09/15/06 4:02 PM (permalink)
                                    quote:
                                    Originally posted by Scorereader

                                    quote:
                                    Originally posted by TheHotPepper.com

                                    Yeah, that's true. Ground turkey tastes like ground beef that's been boiled, no matter how you cook it!


                                    maybe how YOU cook it.

                                    me sad
                                     
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                                      Donna Douglass

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                                      RE: OMG...help! Fri, 09/15/06 4:39 PM (permalink)
                                      Ground turkey is used primarily in my cooking in place of ground beef. I brown it off in a bit of good olive oil, and add spices according to whatever dish I am preparing to make be it chili, meatballs, meatloaf or whatever. We seldom have beef in any form any more so turkey is the ground meat of choice here. It is all in the seasoning I believe. But then, I think that is true of all meat. If meat weren't seasoned, it would just be plain old "stuff" with no definitive taste all its own at all.

                                      Isn't cooking fun? Even mistakes turn out wondrous sometimes and that's what makes it exciting to me. Wondering what is going to happen next....maybe a miracle!

                                      Donna
                                       
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                                        tsores

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                                        RE: OMG...help! Fri, 09/15/06 4:39 PM (permalink)
                                        My recipe call for all the above plus a little sugar and vinegar. Just a touch of vinegar.
                                         
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                                          Kiowa1

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                                          RE: OMG...help! Fri, 09/15/06 4:57 PM (permalink)
                                          I add a beef bouillon cube or two and some beer (some for me and some for the chili)... I also season rhe meat while browning it...
                                          as for cumin, I use about half as much as chili powder...
                                          And it ALWAYS tastes better the next day, etc...
                                           
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                                            xannie_01

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                                            RE: OMG...help! Fri, 09/15/06 5:07 PM (permalink)
                                            doesn't matter what i do to the chili;
                                            hubster will add loads of hot sauce
                                            to it anyway.
                                             
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                                              TheHotPepper.com

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                                              RE: OMG...help! Fri, 09/15/06 5:38 PM (permalink)
                                              That'll always fix it! Hot sauce! Why didn't I say that?
                                               
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                                                RE: OMG...help! Sat, 09/16/06 10:55 AM (permalink)
                                                Sorry Ann, u gotta be fast around here. And thanks Xannie and Score!

                                                Ash and Fab are right, oregano is also a must. Some say only Mexican oregano but?? I have used whatever I had.

                                                Part of the art of chili is to let it cook down so the seasonings get stronger, or add more liquid if it is to strong. Fire, since you are using a crock pot, you can just turn it on high and leave the lid off to let it cook down. To late for this pot I'm sure but I hope you try again. Oh, did you add some stuff? And, how did it turn out?
                                                Joe
                                                 
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                                                  roossy90

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                                                  RE: OMG...help! Sat, 09/16/06 2:45 PM (permalink)
                                                  quote:
                                                  Originally posted by PapaJoe8

                                                  A touch of cumin??? Thats the problem! Lots of Cumin, about a teaspoon ( at least ) per lb. of meat. And yes, garlic. A pack ot taco seasoning might help? I have made lots of turkey chili that came out good. You just gotta keep cookin n addin till it tasts right.

                                                  Every pot has it's own soal.
                                                  Joe


                                                  Cumin is our friend!
                                                   
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                                                    TheHotPepper.com

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                                                    RE: OMG...help! Sat, 09/16/06 4:15 PM (permalink)
                                                    I'd never put oregano in chili, maybe it's just me, but anything with oregano you find yourself burping up that flavor for hours! Plus, it easily overpowers a dish.
                                                     
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                                                      RE: OMG...help! Mon, 09/18/06 11:25 AM (permalink)
                                                      quote:
                                                      Originally posted by TheHotPepper.com

                                                      quote:
                                                      Originally posted by Scorereader

                                                      quote:
                                                      Originally posted by TheHotPepper.com

                                                      Yeah, that's true. Ground turkey tastes like ground beef that's been boiled, no matter how you cook it!


                                                      maybe how YOU cook it.

                                                      me sad


                                                      I'm sorry I didn't mean to "sound" mean. don't be sad. Be happy!
                                                      We are, afterall, talking about chili!
                                                       
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                                                        RE: OMG...help! Mon, 09/18/06 11:34 AM (permalink)
                                                        quote:
                                                        Originally posted by TheHotPepper.com

                                                        I'd never put oregano in chili, maybe it's just me, but anything with oregano you find yourself burping up that flavor for hours! Plus, it easily overpowers a dish.


                                                        in general, I agree - too much oregano can stay with you - or revisit later, but this weekend (inspired by this thread) I made ground turkey replacing beef in my recipe, and decided to give the oregano a try. I used just a bit really, and complimented it with parsley, and it did deepen the earthiess of the flavor. I was careful to use it lightly and not, as you say, let it overpower.
                                                        Of course, there was plently of cumin, garlic (powder and chopped), chili powder, salt, pepper, paprika, etc and diced shallots and peeled tomatoes with the juice and all. I came out well, although, I think I over did the garlic a little...but we liked it.
                                                         
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                                                          RE: OMG...help! Tue, 09/19/06 2:51 PM (permalink)
                                                          Score, impossable to overdo the garlic. Well... maybe a clove of garlic on each spood full of chili... well even that sounds good to me!
                                                          Joe
                                                           
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                                                            lunasatic

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                                                            RE: OMG...help! Tue, 09/19/06 3:01 PM (permalink)
                                                            I use fresh pork sausage (bolied, drained, and rinsed) in everything - spaghetti, chili, shepard's pie, meat loaf, chili mac; in sort, anything you would normally put ground beef into. The sausage seasoning adds its own special flip to whatever you're cooking, and you don't wind up with that "boiled" taste.
                                                             
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