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Michael Hoffman
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Pastrami Sandwich?
Wed, 12/23/09 12:57 PM
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One of the photos accompanying the report on D.T. Kirby's purports to be of a pastrami sandwich. If it really is, pastrami and lettuce, with mayonnaise on the side, I am reminded of the kosher corned beef sandwich I was served at a Holiday Inn in Charleston, West Virginia once. It was corned beef, lettuce and tomato on white bread with mayonnaise. People who do not understand pastrami should not be permitted to serve it.
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LindaW
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Re:Pastrami Sandwich?
Wed, 12/23/09 1:25 PM
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Michael, Perhaps it's a dipping sauce for the fries...I too shudder to think they put even lettuce and tomato with pastrami..let alone mayo. Then again, getting decent pastrami even up in the Albany, NY area is not an easy feat..I can only imagine what it might be like in Indiana. Happy holidays and may all your pastrami sandwiches be served on rye with spicy brown mustard.
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outolunch
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Re:Pastrami Sandwich?
Wed, 12/23/09 1:36 PM
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Actually you can get more than decent pastrami in Albany. Albany is home to Old World Provsions which has AMAZING pastrami. Old World is the supplier to many of the delis in NYC including, I understand, Katz!
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Russ Jackson
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Re:Pastrami Sandwich?
Wed, 12/23/09 1:36 PM
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Pastrami and Corned Beef should never be served with Mayonaise...JMO...Russ
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Michael Hoffman
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Re:Pastrami Sandwich?
Wed, 12/23/09 1:36 PM
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I suppose it could be a dipping sauce, but when I see lettuce on a pastrami sandwich the mayonnaise dog always raises it's ungly head for me. And thank you for your wishes.
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Re:Pastrami Sandwich?
Wed, 12/23/09 1:39 PM
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I agree. No lettuce, no tomato, no mayo. May I put raw onion on mine, Mr. Hoffman?
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DawnT
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Re:Pastrami Sandwich?
Wed, 12/23/09 1:44 PM
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Goodness, that's an abomination! Seeded Rye or in a pinch unseeded is the only other acceptable bread choice. The only green thing that should be on that plate is perhaps a Kosher dill pickle spear. Maybe a monkey dish of cole slaw or ny style potato salad on the side. Guess these people wouldn't understand serving tubs of dill pickles or sauerkraut on the table as appetizers either. To me this is just as bad as screwing up a Cuban sandwich! Oh, let me guess. They use the finest pastrami from Jenni-o or Butterball...right? Oscar Mayer?
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Michael Hoffman
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Re:Pastrami Sandwich?
Wed, 12/23/09 1:50 PM
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enginecapt I agree. No lettuce, no tomato, no mayo. May I put raw onion on mine, Mr. Hoffman? You certainly may.
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ScreamingChicken
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Re:Pastrami Sandwich?
Wed, 12/23/09 2:10 PM
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DawnT Oh, let me guess. They use the finest pastrami from Jenni-o or Butterball...right? Oscar Mayer? Given that Kirby's serves Vienna Beef hot dogs it's not a stretch to think that the pastrami might also be a VB product. You could always call 765-429-6666 and ask. Note that long distance charges may apply. And then you wouldn't have to guess...you'd know!!! Brad
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Re:Pastrami Sandwich?
Wed, 12/23/09 2:11 PM
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That certainly is not the traditional jewish-style presentation. But then, I love grilled pastrami with grilled onions and melted swiss subs.
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the ancient mariner
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Re:Pastrami Sandwich?
Wed, 12/23/09 2:43 PM
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With a Dr Brown's Cel-Ray, of course. But, Mayonaisse never. Tomatoes, who ever heard of a tomato on pastrami-----God forbid.
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Russ Jackson
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Re:Pastrami Sandwich?
Wed, 12/23/09 2:56 PM
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Jewish Rye, Pastrami, Mustard and nothing else. I would not even toast or grill the bread. The addition of grilled onions would be better served atop the potatoe salad or on the side. Cold butter might work but I have never tried it on Pastrami but it works with hard salami and mustard on Jewish Rye...Russ
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Michael Hoffman
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Re:Pastrami Sandwich?
Wed, 12/23/09 3:14 PM
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If you want to get some pretty darned good rye try Block's Bagels on East Broad Street. Unfortunately, the Bexly Kosher market shut down last year, and the only place you can buy any Kosher stuff is at the Kroger on East Broad Street. Their pastrami and corned beef are both first cut, only.
<message edited by Michael Hoffman on Wed, 12/23/09 3:17 PM>
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Greymo
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Re:Pastrami Sandwich?
Wed, 12/23/09 3:24 PM
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There are many amazing things about this "all wrong" sandwich. One that no one has mentioned is the fact that the bread slices are so thick (and look like cinnamon swirl to me  ) and there is twice as much bread as there is meat.............wow! (I did notice what appears to be a sliver of a dill pickle slice on the left side of sandwich but I may be wrong. This sandwitch certainly makes me appreciate, all the more, the wonderful Jewish deli that we have in Baltimore. I would love to be going there right now.
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MiamiDon
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Re:Pastrami Sandwich?
Wed, 12/23/09 3:36 PM
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That's pumpernickel/rye marble bread, Greymo. I just saw some in the supermarket a half hour ago. I almost bought some to go with some corned beef.
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mar52
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Re:Pastrami Sandwich?
Wed, 12/23/09 3:37 PM
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I really like the Picasso Bread. Guess you have a stormy, stormy night after eating that sandwich.
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Greymo
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Re:Pastrami Sandwich?
Wed, 12/23/09 3:40 PM
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MiamiDon That's pumpernickel/rye marble bread, Greymo. I just saw some in the supermarket a half hour ago. I almost bought some to go with some corned beef. I know that is what it is but doesn't look like what I see around here. Incidentally, I was buying some rye bread this am and the baker told me that the marble rye is their best seller for the rye breads that they sell!
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LindaW
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Re:Pastrami Sandwich?
Wed, 12/23/09 4:05 PM
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Out to Lunch...yes we do have Olde World Provisions, however, they are not open on weekends, nor can you just go there to get a sandwich, I believe during the week. So for us poor working stiffs, we are SOL...Gershon's in Schenectady is about the only decent place left...and they are a far cry from the quality of deli I grew up with.
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Re:Pastrami Sandwich?
Wed, 12/23/09 4:11 PM
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Michael's story reminds me of the story I posted before when I was behind a tourista in line at Hershel's Deli in the Reading Terminal Market in Philly. He ordered a corned beef with lettuce and tomato and mayo on wheat bread. The counterman asked him, "Are you sure about that?" I could only laugh.
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the grillman
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Re:Pastrami Sandwich?
Wed, 12/23/09 5:12 PM
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Mayo on pastrami is possibly the only thing worse than ketchup on a hot dog.
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Russ Jackson
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Re:Pastrami Sandwich?
Wed, 12/23/09 5:35 PM
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Miracle Whip on Pastrami would be even worse. If somebody can top that I want to know...Russ You would most definitely go to Hell if you did that!
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Re:Pastrami Sandwich?
Wed, 12/23/09 6:04 PM
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Oh no.... everything always comes back to ketchup on a hot dog. Lets try to keep this to one travesty at at time!
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EatingTheRoad
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Re:Pastrami Sandwich?
Wed, 12/23/09 7:00 PM
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acer2x He ordered a corned beef with lettuce and tomato and mayo on wheat bread. The counterman asked him, "Are you sure about that?" I could only laugh. Haha....I love that 
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Michael Hoffman
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Re:Pastrami Sandwich?
Wed, 12/23/09 7:11 PM
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EatingTheRoad acer2x He ordered a corned beef with lettuce and tomato and mayo on wheat bread. The counterman asked him, "Are you sure about that?" I could only laugh. Haha....I love that  So, when you said about this restaurant, "Steve, great write-up and terrific photos!" And, "I love that Marble Rye...I would definably (sic) get me some of that(,)" what you really meant was, um -- Gee what was it that you meant?
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Re:Pastrami Sandwich?
Wed, 12/23/09 7:30 PM
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LOL I didn't realize this review would stir up so much controversy. Yes, the pastrami sandwich as served on the menu does have mayo, mustard, lettuice, onions, tomatoes, pickles and cheese. What I usually order is just mustard and pickles. I like my bread toasted. So I've sinned :p It may not hold up to a pastrami from NY or NJ, but tastes are a bit different here. Remember, this is central Indiana. Not much Jewish influence here (or any ethnic). Until hispanics started moving out here 10 years ago, the best Mexican was usually Taco Bell.
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Re:Pastrami Sandwich?
Wed, 12/23/09 8:07 PM
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boilermaker LOL I didn't realize this review would stir up so much controversy. Yes, the pastrami sandwich as served on the menu does have mayo, mustard, lettuice, onions, tomatoes, pickles and cheese. What I usually order is just mustard and pickles. I like my bread toasted. So I've sinned :p It may not hold up to a pastrami from NY or NJ, but tastes are a bit different here. Remember, this is central Indiana. Not much Jewish influence here (or any ethnic). Until hispanics started moving out here 10 years ago, the best Mexican was usually Taco Bell. The "way it is supposed to be" is the way you like it. I have had many interesting and enjoyable meals that were non-traditional versions of things I have had just one way before. Yeah, some have been misses, but some have also been hits. Once down in TX someone got us lunch and brought me back a pastrami on sourdough bread sandwich that seemed to have an oil/vinegar dressing on it. It was good! Thanks for a good review of an interesting looking place.
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Re:Pastrami Sandwich?
Wed, 12/23/09 8:33 PM
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I'm not familiar with the term "first cut" in reference to Pastrami or corned beef. What does that mean?
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EatingTheRoad
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Re:Pastrami Sandwich?
Wed, 12/23/09 8:41 PM
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Michael Hoffman EatingTheRoad acer2x He ordered a corned beef with lettuce and tomato and mayo on wheat bread. The counterman asked him, "Are you sure about that?" I could only laugh. Haha....I love that  So, when you said about this restaurant, "Steve, great write-up and terrific photos!" And, "I love that Marble Rye...I would definably (sic) get me some of that(,)" what you really meant was, um -- Gee what was it that you meant? Umm...are we being redundant again Michael Hoffman? I believe what I meant was what I said "Steve, great write-up and terrific photos!" and "I love that Marble Rye...I would definably get me some of that." Is there something contradictory in what I've said. Can I ask you why you're tying to incite something? I was being encouraging of his post. Why must you so often be negative and bring a damper to things? I would much rather bring praise to an individuals review rather than try to nitpick and downgrade it. If you notice, and omitted, I asked for further clarification from him. Should I have said something like "your review stinks...that's not a pastrami sandwich....why did you write this?" ...or should I have done it more underhandedly somehow? I like  more than  so fault me if you must but I know which of those would be more well received by others. Good day sir.....oh, and Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas, I hope you spend it with family and friends and receive everything you've asked for whether that be a present, a smile or a full belly.
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Michael Hoffman
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Re:Pastrami Sandwich?
Wed, 12/23/09 8:49 PM
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What you should have done, if you cared about something called integrity, was to be honest. By the way, nice use of a redundancy.
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EatingTheRoad
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Re:Pastrami Sandwich?
Wed, 12/23/09 9:17 PM
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Since when is one's integrity lowered by finding plus points in something rather than knocking it? By your math I must then be negative for it to be honest? I did enjoy the write-up and I did enjoy the photos. I'm glad it's not you judging at the Pearly Gates...we'd all be in trouble.
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