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2003/12/12 01:29:39 (permalink)

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Anybody, have any great small places that have flown under the Roadfood radar? Mine is Koch's Delicatessen at 4303 Locust St. Best deli in Philadelphia for food and atmosphere.
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    harriet1954
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    RE: Philadelphia 2003/12/13 09:59:27 (permalink)
    This is a quote about Koch's from http://www.upenn.edu/gazette/0497/food.html, a nicely-written piece about U of P-area dining (West Philly):

    "A different type of hangout was -- and still is -- Koch's delicatessen at 4309 Locust Street, which students moving into off-campus apartments or Greek houses have been discovering since 1966. It takes a while to get your order, so the owners pass along free samples of food to those waiting in line, making it a kind of "stand-up" restaurant.

    Alan Schwarz, C'90, has fond memories of those samples and sandwiches. Now a columnist for Baseball America, Schwarz, in Baltimore for the 1993 All-Star game, persuaded other scribes to drive with him to Philadelphia the day before the game to sample Koch's wares. Later that year, he told another out-of-town writer, who was in Phildelphia for a baseball game, to eat there. That writer was so impressed with Koch's that he quoted an employee and mentioned the store in a feature for Baseball America about the Florida Marlins.

    Bob Koch now runs the store, succeeding his parents; his brother Lou, famous for his welcoming manner and Borscht Belt-style humor, passed away last March, an event marked by a front-page obit in The Philadelphia Inquirer. Koch still hears from alums -- they'll call to ask him to send sandwiches via overnight delivery to them at hotels at Superbowl or World Series sites.

    At one point, the Koch family considered expanding into a sit-down place, but attempts to purchase an adjoining property fell though. In retrospect, Bob Koch says, he's glad they did: "I like talking to people. I don't just make them their sandwiches." But sticking with the deli counter has also made his store less vulnerable to the troubles of West Philadelphia. "I close at seven P.M.," he says. "If I stayed open until nine, my customers would be afraid to walk the streets."
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    RE: Philadelphia 2003/12/14 17:35:55 (permalink)
    Wonderful write up:) Thanks for posting it!
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    RE: Philadelphia 2003/12/15 18:16:31 (permalink)
    Yeh, that is a great piece about Koch's. Bob is a one of a kind guy, everyone loves him. Smoke's is also a great place if you want to have a few beers. Anyway, though let's have some other good suggestions of Philly roadfood spots. Thanks
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    RE: Philadelphia 2003/12/18 09:03:32 (permalink)
    I have not seen Nick's Roast Beef mentioned on the Boards and I think they have a fantastic roast beef sandwich. It's at 20th and Jackson, just off Passyunk. We always get the roast beef with provolone, and ask for it "overboard" so as to get plent of au jus. Excellent with a couple of Rolling Rocks. Tavern food at its best.
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    RE: Philadelphia 2003/12/18 09:10:09 (permalink)
    A while back i mentioned Nick's. It is truly great. I always stop there on the way to Phillies, Flyers, Sixers, and Eagles games. There's another location in Springfield, Delaware County that is the same great quality.
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    I have not seen Nick's Roast Beef mentioned on the Boards and I think they have a fantastic roast beef sandwich. It's at 20th and Jackson, just off Passyunk. We always get the roast beef with provolone, and ask for it "overboard" so as to get plent of au jus. Excellent with a couple of Rolling Rocks. Tavern food at its best.
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    RE: Philadelphia 2003/12/18 10:21:48 (permalink)
    Another great place not mentioned in Roadfood listings is DiNardo's Crab House in Old City Philadelphia. They have their crabs flown in daily from Louisiana and specialize in Baltimore/Maryland crabs, aka "Dirty Crabs". They also have the best fries in Philly!
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    RE: Philadelphia 2003/12/18 15:24:34 (permalink)
    The HollyEats site has a lot on Philadelphia...seems that Holly lives there.
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    RE: Philadelphia 2003/12/18 15:26:22 (permalink)
    Yes. Holly Moore is from Philly.
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    The HollyEats site has a lot on Philadelphia...seems that Holly lives there.
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    RE: Philadelphia 2003/12/18 19:42:33 (permalink)
    I'm originally from Northeast Philly, and if it's still there, Nick's Roast Beef has a location on Cottman Avenue close to Bustleton. I went on quite a few first dates there in my youth! They had a back door as well as a front, and if my date was really, really horrible, I'd say, "I'll be right back" as if to go to the ladies' room, and skip out and take the 'Y' bus home. I just laughed out loud at this memory! I'm so bad!

    Also (if it's still there), the Rib Rack on Bustleton and Tyson (was the Tyson Grill many, many moons ago - anyone remember that place?) had nice rib platters. It's very close to Steve's Prince of Steaks which is at Bustleton and St. Vincent.

    Nick's had awesome roast pork sandwiches. Gotta take my loved ones there soon...I'm such a Jerseyite now...
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    RE: Philadelphia 2003/12/18 21:47:42 (permalink)
    Realizing that I am tangenting a bit... My Philly story is limited to receiving two (2) Parking Tickets in the same day for putting my rental car right beside the glass-shack that used to house the Liberty Bell. $100.00 each. I still have them in a folder with other memories of sites visited. It was just before they computerized the system so that even Parking tickets are reported to your local D M V (in SoCal). If that happened now The $200.00 would be collected by the California DMV before I could renew my plates for next year. yuck Now back to the news of food in filly.
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    RE: Philadelphia 2003/12/18 23:57:05 (permalink)
    Shayna's Mom: That Nick's is no relation to the Nick's of 20th & Jackson and Woodland Ave. Springfield. The Nick's you're referring to had their main location on Walnut St. in the 70's and early 80's.
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    RE: Philadelphia 2003/12/19 00:01:28 (permalink)
    Al: Can't believe you're a scofflaw! Also can't believe you parked right next to the old Liberty Bell Pavillion. You gotta' get up here and enjoy all that we have to offer. Bushie's talking about a late June visit. Maybe he'll pick you and Paul up on the way!
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    RE: Philadelphia 2003/12/20 13:04:15 (permalink)
    You mean he just parked right next to the Liberty Bell? (*shakes head in disbelief*)...What year was this, Al?
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    RE: Philadelphia 2003/12/23 10:46:13 (permalink)
    If you're hankering for the feel (and tastes!) of the 50's, without all the hype and knocked-off decor, visit the FAIRLANE GRILL, a tiny hole-in-the-wall (on the corner, actually) at 617 Bethlehem Pike in the hamlet of Erdenheim, PA, affectionately called "Mayberry" by my sister & me. It's a small town where everyone seems to know each other because nobody ever leaves.

    A neighborhood staple, formerly called Hazell's, has the original boomerang-patterned formica & stainless steel counter, tables & booths, and a homey, local feel from the waitresses. There's only one table, 5 or 6 booths, and a short counter, and the hours are limited, so call ahead (215-233-5863). You won't be dissapointed, especially if you order something your Mom used to make you for lunch at home, like GRILLED CHEESE & BACON, FRIES, and a BLACK & WHITE SHAKE.

    Fairlane won "Best of Philly" (Philadelphia Magazine) for breakfasts a few years ago, so I highly recommend that you go there for that meal, particularly the SOS (creamed chipped beef, to the uninitiated). Portions are large and delicious. I'm going to have to schedule a pre-2004-resolution excursion w/ Cheesewit so we can indulge guiltlessly on all of our old favorites there.
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    RE: Philadelphia 2003/12/23 10:49:55 (permalink)
    Jane, thanks for adding that spot as one that has flown under the Roadfood radar.
    I'm looking forward to going there soon.
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    RE: Philadelphia 2003/12/23 11:07:28 (permalink)
    The year of the Great Parking Caper was 1985. It was a Budget Lincoln Town Car if I remember correctly. AND Yes I parked within sidewalk distance of that Glass Shelter that looked like an Amtrak stop!! I understand it is no longer there.
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    RE: Philadelphia 2003/12/23 11:13:49 (permalink)
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    Originally posted by Al-The Mayor-Bowen

    The year of the Great Parking Caper was 1985. It was a Budget Lincoln Town Car if I remember correctly. AND Yes I parked within sidewalk distance of that Glass Shelter that looked like an Amtrak stop!! I understand it is no longer there.


    That's right, they just built a new facility to house the Liberty Bell and the old building was available to just about anyone who wanted it. I don't know who ended up with it(one of the area colleges was looking into it), but the removal of and move of the glas building would be up to them.
    Al, I think you have a new idea for a tv show. You see how close you can park your car to famous sites. Can't wait to see you drive up the Capitol steps and park right next to the entrance!
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    RE: Philadelphia 2003/12/23 13:29:06 (permalink)
    OK, Here we come...I loaded the Kids and Grandkids in the Truck and we're heading for Washington D C . Does anyone know if they have Valet Parking at the White House????


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    RE: Philadelphia 2003/12/23 13:34:32 (permalink)
    Geez, Al, didn't know how wealthy you were. Two Mercedes???
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    RE: Philadelphia 2003/12/23 15:21:59 (permalink)
    Al, just better make RESERVATIONS if you wanna FEED that crew of yours anywhere in DC!!! " />" />" />
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    RE: Philadelphia 2003/12/23 15:36:44 (permalink)
    Due to the current alert of Orange, I doubt if that motley crew could get reservations anywhere in the USA They probably have special dietary requirements anyway.

    Paul E. Smith
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    RE: Philadelphia 2003/12/23 15:41:29 (permalink)
    Don't worry. They called ahead for seating at Old Country Buffet. Hope the lamb chops don't run out.
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    RE: Philadelphia 2003/12/23 16:09:56 (permalink)
    Sundancer & CW, I was trying to keep the thread P.C., but YOU GUYS...
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    RE: Philadelphia 2003/12/23 16:23:59 (permalink)
    Janedough: I do not want the cops (Mayor or meowzart) on my case. I was merely worried about dietary constrants and restaurant availability

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