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1bbqboy

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Re:Philly Cheesesteak Sat, 08/14/10 7:15 AM (permalink)
I don't know anything about this chain, but it looks like they already stole my idea! :)
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    joerogo

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    Re:Philly Cheesesteak Sat, 08/14/10 7:25 AM (permalink)
    bill voss


    I don't know anything about this chain, but it looks like they already stole my idea! :)
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    Crap!  There goes your millions.
     
    I guess you better just stick to this.....


     
      BillyB

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      Re:Philly Cheesesteak Sat, 08/14/10 7:35 AM (permalink)
      bill voss


      I don't know anything about this chain, but it looks like they already stole my idea! :)
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      GGGEEEEEEZZZZZZZZZ Bill, in less than 24 hrs you have the" Philly Cheesesteak Bleu"  Idea and some one builds a Franchise. I need to get some Bleu cheese and see how it melts..........BillyB
       
        TrentonDog

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        Re:Philly Cheesesteak Sat, 08/14/10 8:09 AM (permalink)
        bill voss


        I don't know anything about this chain, but it looks like they already stole my idea! :)
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        I never heard of them, but at least they took the word "Philly" out of their Swiss cheese abomination!
         
        I wonder if I can build a franchise on a Limburger steak...............

         
         
          mayor al

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          Re:Philly Cheesesteak variations Sat, 08/14/10 9:12 AM (permalink)
          Maybe not in NJ, but you might stand a chance in Minnesota with Limburger and beef.
           
          Regional variations in these sandwiches, like BBQ, Chili, Burgers and many other foods are common. While fierce loyalties are evident, it is obvious to an outsider that there are sometimes many "Good" variations available.
          <message edited by mayor al on Sat, 08/14/10 9:16 AM>
           
            1bbqboy

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            Re:Philly Cheesesteak variations Sat, 08/14/10 9:29 AM (permalink)
            Avocado and Cojita with Cilantro!
             
              TrentonDog

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              Re:Philly Cheesesteak variations Sat, 08/14/10 9:39 AM (permalink)
              mayor al


              Maybe not in NJ, but you might stand a chance in Minnesota with Limburger and beef.
               
              Regional variations in these sandwiches, like BBQ, Chili, Burgers and many other foods are common. While fierce loyalties are evident, it is obvious to an outsider that there are sometimes many "Good" variations available.


              Regional dishes get the name of the region. That's what my point is.
               
              A cheese steak can no longer be called a "Philly" cheese steak if it has Bleu, Swiss, pepper jack or anything other than Cheeze Whiz, Amercan, or Provolone. Some people will reject a cheese steak as authentic if it isn't made from thinly cut ribeye steak. Steak-umms or steak-eze won't cut t for some folks. Some say it must be on a roll from a certain bakery too. Too many variations (even if they taste good), muddy the waters and dilute the "brand". Just look at the link I posted to Pat's where John Kerry was totally ridiculed for ordering his "cheese steak hoagie" with Swiss cheese. Others made fun of him for taking "dainty bites" from the sandwich, and not doing the "Philly Lean".
               
              I've seen people get into debates on whether a NJ Italian hot dog is authentic if it isn't served on pizza bread. Could I call a pork/beef hot dog topped with sauerkraut and mustard a "Chicago" hot dog?
               
                TrentonDog

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                Re:Philly Cheesesteak variations Sat, 08/14/10 9:42 AM (permalink)
                bill voss


                Avocado and Cojita with Cilantro!


                Hahaha, it seems now we're straying from regional preferences to lifestyle preferences.
                 
                  David_NYC

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                  Re:Philly Cheesesteak Sat, 08/14/10 11:13 AM (permalink)
                  bill voss


                  I don't know anything about this chain, but it looks like they already stole my idea! :)
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                  There are only about 400 stores of this chain in 44 states, but they do reach from coast-to-coast.  Most seem to be in the Food Courts of malls. They claim to be the world's largest Philly Cheesesteak Chain. In the malls they are in, they give patrons the chance to get a decent Cheesesteak if they are not in the mood for burgers, fried chicken, etc.

                   
                    1bbqboy

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                    Re:Philly Cheesesteak Sat, 08/14/10 5:46 PM (permalink)
                    David, I live in the middle of nowhere for a reason. :)
                     
                      Jim2903

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                      Re:Philly Cheesesteak Thu, 08/26/10 11:02 AM (permalink)
                       
                        Foodbme

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                        Re:Philly Cheesesteak Thu, 08/26/10 2:15 PM (permalink)
                        Believe it or not---We have genuine East Coast Cheesesteaks out here in AZ! Capriotti's opened in Wilmington DE in 1976. They now are franchised in 12 states and make a very good sandwich. If you have one near you, it's worth checking out.
                        http://www.capriottis.com/
                         
                          Jim2903

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                          Re:Philly Cheesesteak variations Thu, 08/26/10 3:27 PM (permalink)
                          TrentonDog
                           

                          Could I call a pork/beef hot dog topped with sauerkraut and mustard a "Chicago" hot dog?

                           
                          Never. All beef, run through the garden, no ketchup.

                           
                            TrentonDog

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                            Re:Philly Cheesesteak variations Thu, 08/26/10 7:15 PM (permalink)
                            Jim2903


                            TrentonDog
                             

                            Could I call a pork/beef hot dog topped with sauerkraut and mustard a "Chicago" hot dog?

                             
                            Never. All beef, run through the garden, no ketchup.


                            Bingo!
                             
                            While it's OK to put whatever you want on your hot dog, cheesesteak or pizza - if you want to call it a "chicago" or a "philly" or a "NY" or whatever - you need to stay true to the formula. Swiss on a "Philly" - ROFLMAO!
                             
                            Swiss on a cheesesteak should be called a "Kerry special", and it needs to have ketchup on it because he married Teresa Heinz, the ketchup heiress.
                             
                              1bbqboy

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                              Re:Philly Cheesesteak variations Thu, 08/26/10 8:03 PM (permalink)
                              no one cares about Philadelphia. That's why it's Philadelphia.
                              So if we call it a cheesesteak your small world would be in sync?
                               
                                joerogo

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                                Re:Philly Cheesesteak variations Thu, 08/26/10 8:33 PM (permalink)
                                bill voss


                                no one cares about Philadelphia. That's why it's Philadelphia.

                                Wha Wha What?  HEY, Go back to RogValley!
                                 
                                  TrentonDog

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                                  Re:Philly Cheesesteak variations Thu, 08/26/10 8:44 PM (permalink)
                                  bill voss


                                  no one cares about Philadelphia. That's why it's Philadelphia.
                                  So if we call it a cheesesteak your small world would be in sync?


                                  Whoa, there nellie. No need to get hostile.
                                   
                                  What I am advocating here is just a little "food purity". How many regional variations of pizza are there? From "Trenton Tomato Pies", to "Chicago Deep Dish", to "New York Style", "Neopolitan", "Sicilian", etc.
                                   
                                  If you call a steak sandwich a "Philly", it needs to be made with fresh thinly sliced ribeye (no frozen steak-umms or steak-eze), and your choice of three cheeses. Cheez Whiz, American or Provolone. (Cheese Whiz being the favorite among the locals, but I like Provolone - which is still within "Philly" specs)
                                   
                                  Put processed Swiss slices, bleu cheese, or whatever on it and it ceases to be a "Philly".
                                   
                                  So yes, call your creation a "Swiss Steak", "Bleu Steak" or "Cotija/Avocado steak" or whatever, just don't call it a "Philly" because you muddy the waters when you do so.
                                   
                                  I've had "New York" style pizza and "Chicago deep dish" pizza that looked and tasted like "pizza" I had a Chuck-E-Cheeses. What a disgrace!
                                   
                                  In this area, when you order a "large pie" they ask "pizza pie, or tomato pie". Just a regional thing I suppose, and I don't give a rat's ass if you care about Trenton less than you care about Philadelphia, Chicago, or New York.
                                   
                                   
                                  :)
                                   
                                   
                                   
                                    1bbqboy

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                                    Re:Philly Cheesesteak variations Thu, 08/26/10 8:45 PM (permalink)
                                    joerogo


                                    bill voss


                                    no one cares about Philadelphia. That's why it's Philadelphia.

                                    Wha Wha What?  HEY, Go back to RogValley!

                                    Hey we have beef here. we have cheese here, we have wheat here. You've sent me on a quest.

                                    What do cows have to do with philly, by the way? Or is it the water, like Newyawk Pizza?
                                    <message edited by bill voss on Thu, 08/26/10 10:39 PM>
                                     
                                      Davydd

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                                      Re:Philly Cheesesteak variations Thu, 08/26/10 10:27 PM (permalink)
                                      Again, Cheez Whiz is not a real cheese. It is a processed concoction created in 1952 long after so called Philly Cheesesteaks came into being. So that throws "food purity" and "authentic" out the window. I don't think I would be so pompous about a sandwich that touts Cheez Whiz. Personally I would rather have a sandwich with better cheese even if it were Swiss than Cheez Whiz or American. 

                                      I thought Provolone was pretty much everywhere since it is one of the pizza staples. Kraft and Sargento package it. Target, Walmart and Costco sell it.  In Minnesota most groceries sell not only the mass package cheeses like Kraft and Sargento, but also sport large selections and varieties of premium cheeses.
                                       
                                        1bbqboy

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                                        Re:Philly Cheesesteak variations Thu, 08/26/10 10:34 PM (permalink)
                                        we've banned Italians and Pennsylvanians in Oregon. Worst is being an 
                                        Italian Pennsylvanian. May the Lord have Mercy.

                                         
                                        <message edited by bill voss on Thu, 08/26/10 10:37 PM>
                                         
                                          ellen4641

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                                          Re:Philly Cheesesteak variations Fri, 08/27/10 12:25 AM (permalink)
                                          I agree with you TrentonDog that freshly sliced ribeye should be used..
                                          NOT steak - umms, or steak-eze ....

                                          If they are using that processed stuff, they are welcome to call it a cheesesteak, but it's NOT a GOOD one, IMO....


                                           
                                            sonjaab

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                                            Re:Philly Cheesesteak variations Fri, 08/27/10 1:54 AM (permalink)
                                            My Philly area faves come from:
                                            Johns Pork, DiNics, or Donkeys.................

                                            Nuff said!
                                             
                                              joerogo

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                                              Re:Philly Cheesesteak variations Fri, 08/27/10 7:33 AM (permalink)
                                              bill voss


                                              we've banned Italians and Pennsylvanians in Oregon. Worst is being an 
                                              Italian Pennsylvanian. May the Lord have Mercy.



                                               
                                              Don't make me go over your head to Mr Chips!

                                               
                                                Davydd

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                                                Re:Philly Cheesesteak variations Fri, 08/27/10 9:39 AM (permalink)
                                                The last "cheesesteak" I had was thinly sliced Caribou topped with Wild Rice Gouda Cheese and served on a Wild Rice Baguette. You can't get that in Philly.
                                                 
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                                                  Re:Philly Cheesesteak variations Fri, 08/27/10 9:55 AM (permalink)
                                                  bill voss

                                                  we've banned Italians and Pennsylvanians in Oregon. 
                                                  Awwwwww.....
                                                   
                                                    1bbqboy

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                                                    Re:Philly Cheesesteak variations Fri, 08/27/10 10:12 AM (permalink)
                                                    We'd let you in, BB
                                                     
                                                      joerogo

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                                                      Re:Philly Cheesesteak variations Fri, 08/27/10 11:58 AM (permalink)
                                                      The Pennsylvania Italian American Association wanted me to pass along this message concerning Bill Voss...


                                                       
                                                        joerogo

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                                                        Re:Philly Cheesesteak variations Fri, 08/27/10 1:17 PM (permalink)
                                                        Mr Voss ain't that bad.  Ya just gotta know how to take him

                                                        I was only announcing his ban from the entire state of Pennsylvania.  Although I hear there is a similar ban in the State of Alaska
                                                         
                                                          TrentonDog

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                                                          Re:Philly Cheesesteak variations Fri, 08/27/10 3:39 PM (permalink)
                                                          Davydd


                                                          Again, Cheez Whiz is not a real cheese. It is a processed concoction created in 1952 long after so called Philly Cheesesteaks came into being. So that throws "food purity" and "authentic" out the window. I don't think I would be so pompous about a sandwich that touts Cheez Whiz. Personally I would rather have a sandwich with better cheese even if it were Swiss than Cheez Whiz or American.   


                                                          I never argued that Cheez Whiz was "real" cheese. (better eating through science? lol) Are processed Swiss slices "real" cheese? (That's what BillyB used in his photo)
                                                          I also know that it was introduced in the 50's, long after the "Philly" was invented. What happened was that the Philly cheese steak has evolved, and like it or not, Cheez Whiz is the most popular cheese in Philadelphia - the sandwiches namesake. So yes, "food purity" and "authentic" DO apply. Maybe in 40 years, processed Swiss slices will be the topping of choice in Philadelphia - then, and only then can a "Kerry Special" be called a Philly. (NOT!)
                                                           
                                                          Damm, I'm hungry now. Cheese steaks for dinner. Don't have Provolone, American, or Whiz but I think Chef-Mate sharp cheddar cheese sauce (made from 100% post consumer recycled material) may do the trick, have plenty of that stuff!.......................
                                                          <message edited by TrentonDog on Fri, 08/27/10 3:41 PM>
                                                           
                                                            Davydd

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                                                            Re:Philly Cheesesteak variations Fri, 08/27/10 4:32 PM (permalink)
                                                            So the Philly Cheesesteak may evolve some more with Swiss, Gouda and maybe some quality cheeses. 
                                                             
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