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Nightshift

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Police Inspection, C-Background Sun, 07/27/08 10:30 PM (permalink)
I just read on the blog about a police inspection, aka criminal background check before opening a food stand. I read an article where people who are released from jail do not get a fair shake when back in society so the advice was to open up a hot dog cart. I guess this is not going to possible much longer either.

Anyone know what states require this? It's something I hadn't thought about so I guess I better check for TN.
 
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    Pat T Hat

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    RE: Police Inspection, C-Background Mon, 07/28/08 12:00 AM (permalink)
    Backround checks are becoming prevalant in every single nook and cranny in our society.
    What I'm wondering is, what do people think someone with a criminal record is going to do for an honest living once there is nothing left that will allow them to support themselves...hmmm I wonder what they could do?
    No one seems to want to give that one any thought.
    We have more people with convictions in this country, and thousands more every day, than you can shake a billyclub at...tens of millions potentially without a source of bona fide income...we will reap what we sow I believe.

    A man or woman who has paid his debt to society and is no longer on probation or parol has a right to put a roof over his head and feed his family just like anyone else...or so you would think.

    Most states have information on the state web sites with the requirements for all the various state permits and licenses.
    I'd make a call however, because the state sites may not be updated as fast as these particular laws are quickly getting passed and in some cases quietly and that doesn't even begin to cover local ordinances.

    Carnival workers are getting slammed hard right now as well as ice cream truck drivers and a myriad of other jobs that are often a stepping stone to getting back on your feet...it's for the children ya know.
    Never mind that most all children that are abused, are done so by those they know, trust and are often in a position of authority over them and you certainly don't need a background check to make one.
    Time once again for our favorite American past times, Knee Jerking and Ends Justifying the Means.

    I'll give up mine info, if and only if, everyone (and I do mean EVERYONE), that is privy to all my information in any way shape or form of the process, is willing to give me all of their own information for my records!
    Up to and including the local sheriff and prosecutor.
    Seems perfectly fair to me.
    If it's good for the goose...stepper..


     
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      jman

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      RE: Police Inspection, C-Background Mon, 07/28/08 6:32 AM (permalink)
      quote:
      Originally posted by Pat T Hat


      A man or woman who has paid his debt to society and is no longer on probation or parole has a right to put a roof over his head and feed his family just like anyone else...or so you would think.



      I would include those on probation or on parole. This is a period of time when it is most difficult to find a job to support themselves. If someone is on probation or parole and they can't find work, guess what happens? Some people get pretty desperate. On the other hand, some aren't interested in an honest endeavor.

      Hiring a parolee isn't necessarily a big gamble. They report to their PO once a month and are subject to random drug and alcohol testing. If you look at the person as a whole and the past and current circumstances, hiring a parolee could be the right thing to do.
       
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        festivalfood

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        RE: Police Inspection, C-Background Mon, 07/28/08 8:39 AM (permalink)

        I owned a pizza place in Jersey,and my best employee was an ex-con who worked for the former owner,who I kept on when I bought the place.My place was in Newark and the employee was a great guy who when given a chance really worked hard with a great attitude.He was in jail for drug related crimes when he was younger.He was also known in the neighborhood
        and when some knuckleheads would come in a little too rowdy or looking to cause trouble he was my bouncer too! That being said.I think convicted child molesters should have no second chance to be around children.Not as scout leaders,ice cream stand workers,hot dog stand owners etc.Society did not create their fate,they did.Just as I would not put a former drug addict working in a pharmacy,I would not put a released convicted child molester working at Chuck E Cheese.Child molesters and rapists are a different breed than other criminals.Not that drug addicts,thieves,and other criminals should be totally trusted,but the nature of the child molester and rapists crimes are too despicable and their proclivity to do it again too great to allow them to be around children.Personally I think that convicted child molesters should be fed into a wood chipper....slowly,by the victims family members,but that's just me.I have no problem with background checks being required and each case should be decided upon by the nature of the crime.
         
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          Pat T Hat

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          RE: Police Inspection, C-Background Mon, 07/28/08 11:25 AM (permalink)
          quote:
          Originally posted by jman

          quote:
          Originally posted by Pat T Hat


          A man or woman who has paid his debt to society and is no longer on probation or parole has a right to put a roof over his head and feed his family just like anyone else...or so you would think.



          I would include those on probation or on parole. This is a period of time when it is most difficult to find a job to support themselves. If someone is on probation or parole and they can't find work, guess what happens? Some people get pretty desperate. On the other hand, some aren't interested in an honest endeavor.

          Hiring a parolee isn't necessarily a big gamble. They report to their PO once a month and are subject to random drug and alcohol testing. If you look at the person as a whole and the past and current circumstances, hiring a parolee could be the right thing to do.


          I do agree with that.

          I was trying (poorly) to convey that those still doing paper time, have not yet had all their rights restored. As unfair as that may be for many kinds of criminal offenders, it can definitely hinder possible employment until those rights are returned by law.

          I also think my "fair information exchange" should not just be limited up to just the sheriff and prosecutor, but to whomever wrote the bill and introduced it, not to mention all that voted for it's passing.
          Now I know that most personnal info of a public official is out there already, but not nearly as much as a background check done using someones S.S.#.
          I'll want their numbers if they want mine.
          I don't give that to anyone unless they're involved in my income tax.

          Any government mandate that requires coughing up your SS# to complete strangers not involved in our various tax payments, well that's just plain nuttier than a squirrel turd.

          If everyone is so concerned with child abusers roaming about all willy nilly like, then why isn't all this money, time, energy and outrage spent changing sentencing laws in order to keep offenders locked up, especially in today's safety at any cost social climate?
          Instead we're being forced by law to prove we're worthy somehow, without ever being accused of any current infraction of the law...of which everyone is guilty of in some degree at one time or another.

          Your average "criminal" is just someone who's gotten caught somewhere down the road.
          I've never in my life met a perfect person, just some that think they are.
          This whole invasive fiasco is our new and improved "scarlet letter" and it's pretty shameful in the land of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
          "Don't Tread On ME!" it would seem to me, are now just words on a history test.



           
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            divefl

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            RE: Police Inspection, C-Background Mon, 07/28/08 12:02 PM (permalink)
            I always feel like... somebody's watching me. Can't I get no privacy."

            Come on everybody, you know the cheesy 80s song. Where is my singing emoticon?
             
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