Portion control........ The King Sued

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2006/09/09 02:04:53 (permalink)

Portion control........ The King Sued

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http://www.upi.com/ConsumerHealthDa...05-043936-7727r

Portion control regulation debated
Heart specialist and World Health Federation president Dr. Valentin Fuster believes the government has a duty to step in and regulate the portion size of meals at restaurants, noting that people need to be taught how to eat less.
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MIAMI - Burger King Holdings Inc. disclosed in a securities filing that it was sued July 24 in California Superior Court under the state’s Proposition 65 warning statute for allegedly failing to disclose to its customers that flame-broiled burgers, a signature of the chain, could contain a carcinogen, polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, or PAHs.

http://www.nrn.com/newsletter-qsr/s...SR%20Newsletter

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    RE: Portion control........ The King Sued 2006/09/11 11:03:23 (permalink)
    Neither link worked.
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    RE: Portion control........ The King Sued 2006/09/11 12:30:07 (permalink)
    Nope, couldn't access the links.

    As for the BK story, California's Prop 65 essentially requires that any product sold in the state which contains any amount of a known carcinogen (not sure about other toxins, maybe some Californian can enlighten us) must bear a warning label. Pretty much says, "This product contains chemical(s) known by the State of California to cause cancer." To an outsider it seems that everything you buy in Cali bears a Prop 65 warning label, but it's "normal" on the left coast. Strange that it is an issue with BK after so many years.
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    RE: Portion control........ The King Sued 2006/09/11 12:45:30 (permalink)
    Ashphalt Yes the post is gone but I'll find it and post it here. While searching for it I ran across this:

    LOS ANGELES) – Attorney General Bill Lockyer today filed suit against nine manufacturers of potato chips and french fries, seeking a court order that will require the firms to warn consumers that some of their food products contain acrylamide, a chemical known by the state to cause cancer.

    “In taking this action, I am not telling people to stop eating potato chips or french fries,” said Lockyer. “I know from personal experience that, while these snacks may not be a necessary part of a healthy diet, they sure taste good. But I, and all consumers, should have the information we need to make informed decisions about the food we eat. Proposition 65 requires companies to tell us when we’re exposed to potentially dangerous toxins in our food. The law benefits us all, and as Attorney General, I have a duty to enforce it.”

    Filed in Los Angeles County Superior Court, Lockyer's complaint alleges the companies have violated Proposition 65, a landmark ballot initiative enacted by voters in 1986. The law requires businesses to provide "clear and reasonable" warnings before exposing people to known carcinogens or reproductive toxins. The defendants in the lawsuit are:

    Burger King Corporation, french fries
    Cape Cod Potato Chips, Inc./Lance, Inc. (parent company), Cape Cod potato chips
    Frito-Lay, Inc./PepsiCo, Inc., Lay’s potato chips/Lay’s baked potato chips
    H.J. Heinz, Inc., Ore-Ida frozen potato products
    Kettle Foods, Inc., Kettle Chips
    KFC Corporation, KFC Potato Wedges
    McDonald’s Corporation, french fries
    Procter & Gamble Distributing Co./Procter & Gamble Manufacturing Co., Pringles
    Wendy’s International, Inc., french fries

    A by-product created by the reaction of chemicals in food and high heat, acrylamide has been found at low levels in a wide variety of foods. The lawsuit asks the court to require warnings on potato chips and french fries because they have higher levels of acrylamide than other foods.

    Acrylamide has long been known to exist in industrial products, and since 1990 has been on the Proposition 65 list of carcinogens. Prior to 2002, however, acrylamide was not known to be present in food. But in early 2002, scientists in Sweden made the startling finding that certain starchy foods cooked in high heat contain acrylamide.
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    RE: Portion control........ The King Sued 2006/09/11 13:23:08 (permalink)
    Portion control.
    http://news.monstersandcritics.com/lifestyle/consumerhealth/article_1198628.php/Regulate_food_portion_size
    Burger King.
    http://www.cattlenetwork.com/Content.asp?ContentID=65081
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    RE: Portion control........ The King Sued 2006/09/11 18:11:14 (permalink)
    After reading the stories about more legislation on foods, I have concluded that the single-most dangerous risk to our health is the one carcinogen that can't be controlled: politicious interfereus.
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    RE: Portion control........ The King Sued 2006/09/11 18:42:49 (permalink)
    Years ago, the government did a study whereas they fed laboratory rats dollar bills(YES!)The rats got cancer so therefore money causes cancer.As far as I am concerned, any new lawsuits, government policies, etc..are far reaching reasons for certain politicans to be heard when they have absolutely nothing else to say or support.If someone wants to regulate my food intake-let them try!!!!!!!!!
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    RE: Portion control........ The King Sued 2006/09/12 17:41:16 (permalink)
    quote:
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    Years ago, the government did a study whereas they fed laboratory rats dollar bills(YES!)The rats got cancer so therefore money causes cancer.As far as I am concerned, any new lawsuits, government policies, etc..are far reaching reasons for certain politicans to be heard when they have absolutely nothing else to say or support.If someone wants to regulate my food intake-let them try!!!!!!!!!


    I would be willing to take any possibly carcinogenic dollar bills off anyone for their own protection. I am assuming that there is also a correlation with higher amounts, therefore a $50 bill is more likely to cause cancer so you should probably divest yourselves of those even quicker.

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    RE: Portion control........ The King Sued 2006/09/12 21:14:40 (permalink)
    quote:
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    To an outsider it seems that everything you buy in Cali bears a Prop 65 warning label, but it's "normal" on the left coast.
    It may be normal for the socialist state government in this nanny state, but speaking as a 51 year resident of this place, 99% of us pay no attention to that crap. It's like background noise, always there but never heard. Kind of like Teddy K in MA.
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    RE: Portion control........ The King Sued 2006/09/13 10:05:23 (permalink)
    This is ridiculous. Are they going to start restricting the quantity of alcohol, cigarettes and SPAM and Mac 'n Cheese, etc. etc. that one can buy? Are they going to start cooking our food for us soon?

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    RE: Portion control........ The King Sued 2006/09/13 10:47:27 (permalink)
    Andrea B Wrote This is ridiculous. Are they going to start restricting the quantity of alcohol, cigarettes and SPAM and Mac 'n Cheese, etc. etc. that one can buy? Are they going to start cooking our food for us soon?.............................................
    I doubt they will do that but only because it would hurt the tax base the politicians have to have in order to keep the nanny state fires fueled. But unless we as fans of good foods, and the restaurateurs start heading these people off at the pass, with what ever means possible it may well come to something close to that. If I were to copy and paste some of the letters to our local paper on these topics here I think you’d agree that many of the “Anti Crowd” are just hateful. After the city wide smoking ban was passed another would be issue was raised wanting to stop people from smoking anywhere in public. This was to include all parks, public streets, and outdoor events.
    Then with in a few days of our Illinois state fair opening, our local paper The Illinois State Journal Register, was bad mouthing all the fried foods at the fair. By the way I have spent 27 years in radio and during the last 17 years here in Springfield Illinois called the Illinois State Journal Register, the Illinois State Urinal Register, because of their attempts to legislate “the nanny state” through editorials. Our paper ran 17 editorials against fireworks and they were banned. They ran dozens and dozens of articles and editorials against smoking and it was banned. Who knows what’s next? ...............................Sorry for the long post but it just makes my blood boil.
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    RE: Portion control........ The King Sued 2006/09/13 10:54:28 (permalink)
    quote:
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    This is ridiculous. Are they going to start restricting the quantity of alcohol


    The quantity of alcohol one can purchase IS restricted, at least at ball games (something like two beers per person at any one time?). Additionally, it's illegal for bars, restaurants and stores to sell alcohol to anyone who appears intoxicated (I happen to agree with this one).
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    RE: Portion control........ The King Sued 2006/09/13 10:56:56 (permalink)
    quote:
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    quote:
    Originally posted by AndreaB

    This is ridiculous. Are they going to start restricting the quantity of alcohol


    The quantity of alcohol one can purchase IS restricted, at least at ball games (something like two beers per person at any one time?). Additionally, it's illegal for bars, restaurants and stores to sell alcohol to anyone who appears intoxicated (I happen to agree with this one).
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    RE: Portion control........ The King Sued 2006/09/13 11:03:22 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by AndreaB

    quote:
    Originally posted by Pigiron

    quote:
    Originally posted by AndreaB

    This is ridiculous. Are they going to start restricting the quantity of alcohol


    The quantity of alcohol one can purchase IS restricted, at least at ball games (something like two beers per person at any one time?). Additionally, it's illegal for bars, restaurants and stores to sell alcohol to anyone who appears intoxicated (I happen to agree with this one).



    Well, I totally agree not selling alcohol to anyone who appears intoxicated, because they might hurt others. But with the food? If you eat too much you did it to yourself. I agree that portions are way out of control these days, but share a meal with someone else or take what you don't eat home for tomorrow. People are not so stupid that they don't know huge portions and continual fast food are not good for them. It seems personal responsibility is on the back roads these days.

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    RE: Portion control........ The King Sued 2006/09/13 11:47:48 (permalink)
    In NC they stop selling alcohol at he end of the third quarter. Don't remember the deal w/ basketball as I lost my PSL when Shinn moved the hornets to NOLA. Even the waiters down there think he is a jerk.
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    RE: Portion control........ The King Sued 2006/09/13 12:26:37 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by AndreaB

    This is ridiculous. Are they going to start restricting the quantity of alcohol, cigarettes and SPAM and Mac 'n Cheese, etc. etc. that one can buy? Are they going to start cooking our food for us soon?

    Andrea


    It depends on where you live and what the liquor laws are. In Canada it is different in each province. Where I live, the laws were changed a couple of years back- Now it is two drinks per person at any time- This is annoying because if you go up to a bar alone, wanting to purchase a surprise round of drinks for your friends, they won't give it to you (granted, I have more than one friend).

    They also won't serve a bottle of wine to someone dining alone. Nobody said that you had to drink the whole bottle but that doesn't matter.

    I think there is a maximum of two ounces of alcohol per drink as well. In fact, I think it is 2oz per person. 1 double or two singles at anytime.

    The government also set a minimum price- $2.25.

    And for those of you who think Canadians pour cheap pours(ie light), it's all measured. Free pouring is illegal.

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    RE: Portion control........ The King Sued 2006/09/13 13:22:20 (permalink)
    Some of these regulations are ridiculous. How do grocery stores or liquor stores know (unless it's evident) you're not already smashed and are going to tuck into that case of beer or bottle of whiskey you bought on the way home in your car? And then it's going to be their fault if something happens?
    I understand the regulations in a restaurant setting, where the server / bartender can monitor a person's intake and there's a limit to alcoholic beverages, but I believe things have gotten out of control. It's not anyone's fault but my own if I drink too much or eat too much (neither of which I do). I have no problem with a restaurant / ball park / bar etc. cutting people off and having limits, but some of it is overboard.
    It's one more example of the popular "it's somebody else's fault and not my own".

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    RE: Portion control........ The King Sued 2006/09/13 17:59:04 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by AndreaB

    Some of these regulations are ridiculous. How do grocery stores or liquor stores know (unless it's evident) you're not already smashed and are going to tuck into that case of beer or bottle of whiskey you bought on the way home in your car? And then it's going to be their fault if something happens?
    I understand the regulations in a restaurant setting, where the server / bartender can monitor a person's intake and there's a limit to alcoholic beverages, but I believe things have gotten out of control. It's not anyone's fault but my own if I drink too much or eat too much (neither of which I do). I have no problem with a restaurant / ball park / bar etc. cutting people off and having limits, but some of it is overboard.
    It's one more example of the popular "it's somebody else's fault and not my own".

    Andrea


    Be thankful that you don't live here

    I forgot- You can't legally sell alcohol to anyone who appears intoxicated and hard liquor is only sold in government liquor stores in Manitoba. Beer and wine sales are slightly different.
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