Price of dogs

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2013/01/20 20:04:19 (permalink)

Price of dogs

Hi guys,
   I'm just curious what I should be looking at as far as prices for me to purchase dogs. I've looked at Nathan's and Hebrew National at Sam's club and they seem to be around 80 and 60 cents per dog. I'm not sure if thats a good price or if I should continue looking for better pricing. The Hebrew were "jumbo" dogs. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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    chefbuba
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    Re:Price of dogs 2013/01/20 21:05:34 (permalink)
    What's a Jumbo Dog?....... Is it a 4:1, 5:1, 6:1, 8:1?
    What size dogs do you want? What length?
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    Re:Price of dogs 2013/01/20 23:59:00 (permalink)
    Walmart in my town average $3.39 - $3.79 8:1 for Nathan's
    Kroger at present $4.49 Higher than Walmart most of the time for Nathan's.
    I'm gonna try Baker and Chef from Sam's Club. Another vendor here in town for some time uses these.
    Have you tasted Hebrew next to Nathan's. Everyone should do this test. I prefer Nathan's quite a bit more than the Hebrew brand. I haven't tried Baker and Chef yet.
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    Re:Price of dogs 2013/01/21 06:18:25 (permalink)
    I buy a 4 lb package of Nathan's, 8-1, at Sams Club for $11.38. Works out to .35 cents per dog.
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    Re:Price of dogs 2013/01/21 09:45:25 (permalink)
    baker and chefs wont even come close to a nathans. don't buy cheap. 
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    Re:Price of dogs 2013/01/22 01:25:52 (permalink)
    Bakers and Chefs are ok to steam only... you boil them, and they shrink down to nothing...  You can get bye with them, but it's more of a quantity vs. quality thing...  You can charge more for a premium beef product...
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    Re:Price of dogs 2013/01/22 23:17:39 (permalink)
    thanks for all the input guys. I'm probably going to stick with the nathan's 8:1. I doubled checked my prices at wal mart and it looks like around .35 cents a piece. 
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    Re:Price of dogs 2013/01/25 12:17:23 (permalink)
    i use a 5:1 beef nat. casing...$2.29#
    they are made locally
    look around for a locally made hot dog  call around to butcher shops ......{good selling point] at least here in santa cruz, ca
     
    www.lucyshotdogs.com
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    Re:Price of dogs 2013/01/25 12:52:58 (permalink)
    You may look into finding a local-ish meat market/butcher...that's what we're using for our dogs.  A little more, but the taste is well worth it!
     
    8:1 ALL BEEF  ~.50
    4:1 ALL BEEF  ~.90
     
    And believe it or not (at least we were surprised), 90% of sales are the 4:1's.  Go figure.  We thought in this economy people would want to "cheap out" ;)
     
    But our dogs are advertised as OHIO ALL BEEF Hot Dogs...farm raised, blah, blah, blah...all the things not associated with the BIG meat production facilities. 
     
    [hey djtomatoe...my screen must not have updated before I posted...didn't mean to be redundant of your post---you get a better deal it looks like on top of it, good for you! :) ]
    post edited by happyhotdogs - 2013/01/25 12:55:30
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    Re:Price of dogs 2013/01/25 13:06:46 (permalink)
    djtomatoe
    I took a look at your site, if you don't mind me asking where did you purchase your trailer from?  We built ours from scratch, but I'm interested in finding ready to go units...
     
    Also, can you stand inside without stooping?  Looking at the photo of you next to it, it looks pretty darned close ;)
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    Re:Price of dogs 2013/01/26 12:25:53 (permalink)
    i had the trailer made in eugene oregon.
    ALL AMERICAN TRAILER
    I had the roof raised so i have plenty of room
    inside i have 4 sinks, fridge, dog cooker, bun warmer small grill, micro., 40gal fresh, pump and heater, 1 service window.
    post edited by djtomatoe - 2013/01/26 12:29:13
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    Re:Price of dogs 2013/01/26 12:40:39 (permalink)
    Thanks for the info, I'll google it.
     
    Actually I couldn't find this place...do you have any contact info?
    post edited by happyhotdogs - 2013/01/26 12:45:22
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    Re:Price of dogs 2013/02/13 18:50:30 (permalink)
    I talked with a friend of mine who owns a B&M stand. I asked him what he's paying for Vienna Beef dogs. He said somewhere around 4.39/lb. Vienna also sent out notice that they will be raising prices again this year. He is serving 9's for a regular. He's concerned because customers don't want to pay $3.50 for a hot dog when those new prices hit. His thought was offer a lower price option and pay a premium for the Vienna. I'm not quite sure about that move. I've added or changed product on my cart that give me better margins just to keep dog prices the same for my customers for the past two years. I don't know how much longer I can keep my dog prices down. I do plan on keeping them at last years levels. That again depends on the increases.  
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    Re:Price of dogs 2013/02/13 21:38:37 (permalink)
    i appreciate all the input. Im going to go with a Nathan's 8:1 dog for 2.50 condiments (ketchup, mustard,relish,onions,jalapenos) included. 
     
    I'm also going to offer an Applegate Farms Organic dog for 3.50. There are a lot of health conscious people in my area and I think they will appreciate me offering an organic dog and if not I'll take it off the cart. No big deal. 
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    Re:Price of dogs 2013/02/14 15:05:08 (permalink)
    sillydogz...just my .02...
     
    As far as setting your price to sell, this should be based not just on what your cost is.  I'm guessing you know this already but just in case : ) 
     
    Have you had a chance to see what your competitors are selling their dogs for?  What kind of quality do they sell?  Are they including any toppings?  Are they selling an EXPERIENCE?  Are you? 
     
    The mistake that I've seen from new hot doggers is they feel they have to charge the lowest price because they are new...they sell themselves short.  I sound like a broken record to many I'm sure because I honestly think if we don't sell our customers an experience (as opposed to just a hot dog) then we're no different than McDonald's.  Let's face it, buying food on the street is special...it's unique...and it's fun!  I tried from day one to make my cart look awesome and special and when I work nights I play music, have lights, have fun with my tipsy customers, lol and they love it. 
     
    Don't sell yourself short!  $2.50 sounds awfully cheap to me but it may be perfect for your area.... 
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    Re:Price of dogs 2013/02/14 15:30:32 (permalink)
    hey djdawg,
        i fully agree with what you're saying. all of the carts in my area are basic. hot dogs with basic toppings and chili dogs made with crappy chili. They're all around the 2 dollar mark. 1 guy even sells for 1.75. Some nickel and dime you for condiments others its included. 
     
    My business plan is focusing more on specialty dogs. One of my specials is going to be a field roast frankfurter topped with vegan friendly chili and offer rice milk cheese for a full on vegan friendly chili dog. In talking with friends and friends of friends who are vegetarian or vegan they are all excited that they'll actually have an option for street food.
     
     
    I'll also be offering the organic dog and when paired with the vegan chili will be an organic friendly chili dog.
     
    Then my menu will consist of dogs topped with pulled pork, mac n cheese, chili, bacon, etc etc.
     
    I think 2.50 is a fair price for this area and some people will load up on condiments while others won't. I think whats going to really draw people to my cart are the specialty dogs. This area is full of foodies and has a buzzing restaurant scene so offering something out of the ordinary is always a plus 
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    Re:Price of dogs 2013/02/14 15:37:40 (permalink)
    Great job silly!  Good luck...keep us posted!
     
    sillydogz

    hey djdawg,
      i fully agree with what you're saying. all of the carts in my area are basic. hot dogs with basic toppings and chili dogs made with crappy chili. They're all around the 2 dollar mark. 1 guy even sells for 1.75. Some nickel and dime you for condiments others its included. 

    My business plan is focusing more on specialty dogs. One of my specials is going to be a field roast frankfurter topped with vegan friendly chili and offer rice milk cheese for a full on vegan friendly chili dog. In talking with friends and friends of friends who are vegetarian or vegan they are all excited that they'll actually have an option for street food.


    I'll also be offering the organic dog and when paired with the vegan chili will be an organic friendly chili dog.

    Then my menu will consist of dogs topped with pulled pork, mac n cheese, chili, bacon, etc etc.

    I think 2.50 is a fair price for this area and some people will load up on condiments while others won't. I think whats going to really draw people to my cart are the specialty dogs. This area is full of foodies and has a buzzing restaurant scene so offering something out of the ordinary is always a plus 


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    Re:Price of dogs 2013/02/14 15:40:27 (permalink)
    Thanks, I'll def keep you posted. 
     
    And I'm not sure if it was clear, 2.50 is for a regular hot dog only. My specialty dogs will be more. 4-5 dollars.
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    Re:Price of dogs 2013/02/14 15:44:34 (permalink)
    Ok, that makes more sense! 
     
    sillydogz

    Thanks, I'll def keep you posted. 

    And I'm not sure if it was clear, 2.50 is for a regular hot dog only. My specialty dogs will be more. 4-5 dollars.
    post edited by djdawg - 2013/02/14 17:09:25
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    Re:Price of dogs 2013/02/14 16:10:09 (permalink)
    Fishbilly

    I talked with a friend of mine who owns a B&M stand. I asked him what he's paying for Vienna Beef dogs. He said somewhere around 4.39/lb. Vienna also sent out notice that they will be raising prices again this year. He is serving 9's for a regular. He's concerned because customers don't want to pay $3.50 for a hot dog when those new prices hit. His thought was offer a lower price option and pay a premium for the Vienna. I'm not quite sure about that move. I've added or changed product on my cart that give me better margins just to keep dog prices the same for my customers for the past two years. I don't know how much longer I can keep my dog prices down. I do plan on keeping them at last years levels. That again depends on the increases.  

     
    Fishbilly, were are you located? I live 10 minutes from Aurora and know many many people I can pass your info on to.
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    Re:Price of dogs 2013/02/15 15:27:01 (permalink)
    klands01 - My cart is located in Hinckley. You'll find me on weekends for now at the BP station. When the weather warms up! Brrrrr!  Can't wait for warmer weather. Almost here!
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