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2008/03/13 17:17:23 (permalink)

Pubs


There has never been invented a more important
item in all this world than a good pub with----------

Cold drinks,
Good Food and
Good Conversation.

Up to the bar Lads, I'm buying !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    RE: Pubs 2008/03/13 17:29:11 (permalink)
    one of my favorites was a pub in Camillus, NY, called the Green Gate Inn, which is now called Victor's, because after a friday of cold drinks, good food and good conversation, if you were too tired or too imbibed to go home, there were rooms upstairs - a true tavern. I rarely did that, though, since the rooms were a little pricey. ALthough, I've heard rumors that the Victor's version is not as good as the Green Gate.



    update: the the place in questions, which was Green Gate Inn, then Victor's Inn, is now Green Gate Inn again. The restaurant now is called French Kiss Restaurant. Looks like things are back to old form again! http://www.thegreengateinn.com/
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    RE: Pubs 2008/03/13 17:44:27 (permalink)
    The Green Gate sounds like my ideal for a tavern: Girls upstairs, poker in the back room, and good drinks, good food, good conversation...

    Cheers, John
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    RE: Pubs 2008/03/13 18:11:33 (permalink)
    Wait a damn minute here boys, I didn't mention anything about girls, or
    rooms upstairs-------who do you think I am the ex-gov of NY.

    I was talking about good clean fun type pubs. "Put that on my tab please
    Charley I'll see ya next week" kinda pubs.

    Phone rings-barkeep "hi there Mrs Jones, no your husband isn't here" kinda pubs.

    Gotta have great burgers and fries no matter what else !!!!!!!
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    RE: Pubs 2008/03/13 18:19:38 (permalink)
    Every man should have a "CHEERS"---right Norm ?????
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    RE: Pubs 2008/03/13 19:41:51 (permalink)
    My favorite pub is Lyon's Pub on 6th Street downtown Minneapolis. I was there yesterday. I thought since I was going to the auto show at the convention center I would call my old work buddies and meet them for lunch. Five showed up. This is the place that put the breaded pork tenderloin sandwich on the menu at my lobbying best insistence. It is also the place I met a reporter for an interview about the breaded pork tenderloin sandwiches that resulted in a 2nd place award for the best news feature from the Minnesota Newspaper Association for the reporter. Needless to say the pub was very happy for the publicity.

    What is great about Lyons? If you eat at the bar soft drinks are free with your meal. So we always made a point to "meet at the bah". When I was a working stiff I never drank at lunch. Now that I am retired I ordered a Smithy's (Smithwicks)and it was on the house since I got the gang to come in.
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    RE: Pubs 2008/03/13 20:14:09 (permalink)
    Dearfolk,
    My favorite pubs all have food, but I'll recommend them all again here. In no absolute order (all these are GA.):
    1) Copper Creek Brewing Co. -- 144 East Washington Street -- Athens.
    2) Trappeze -- 269 West Washington Street -- Athens.
    3) Euclid Avenue Yacht Club -- 1136 Euclid Avenue, N/E -- Atlanta.
    4) Manuel's Tavern -- 622 North Highland Avenue, N/E -- Atlanta.
    5) Twain's Billiards & Tap -- 211 East Trinity Place -- Decatur.
    6) Brick Store Pub -- East Court Square -- Decatur.
    The closest to "Cheers" atmosphere would be either Copper Creek or The E. A. Y. C.
    Untoastedly Toastingly, Ort. Carlton in Usually User-Friendly Athens, Georgia.
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    RE: Pubs 2008/03/13 20:43:25 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by the ancient mariner

    Wait a damn minute here boys, I didn't mention anything about girls, or
    rooms upstairs-------who do you think I am the ex-gov of NY.

    I was talking about good clean fun type pubs. "Put that on my tab please
    Charley I'll see ya next week" kinda pubs.

    Phone rings-barkeep "hi there Mrs Jones, no your husband isn't here" kinda pubs.

    Gotta have great burgers and fries no matter what else !!!!!!!


    The Ooh Ooh Bird Inn in West Pittston, Pa. The owner, Tiny (about 6'7") would never want to lie to someones wife so the phone number is unlisted. The walls are covered with license plates from all over the world. There is a motion detector on the singing fish so it goes off when you walk by.

    The wings are lightly breaded with one of the best sauces I ever had. The burgers are fresh and cooked in a 100 year old cast iron skillet. Fresh cut fries. If I knew how to post a picture you would be heading to West Pittston right now.

    And don't forget the ice cold beer!
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    RE: Pubs 2008/03/13 20:48:25 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by joerogo
    quote:
    Originally posted by the ancient mariner
    And don't forget the ice cold beer!


    Joerogo,
    What local brands do they stock?
    UnStraubbedly, Ort. Carlton in Athens, GA.
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    RE: Pubs 2008/03/13 20:57:35 (permalink)
    My favorite is Yuengling Lager. Brewed about 100 miles south in America's oldest Brewery. Great stuff.

    Also Stegmaier beer which is brewed in Wilkes-Barre, Pa. About 6 mile south. Not one of my favorites but I remember how good it tasted at 50 cents a quart when I was....well younger.
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    RE: Pubs 2008/03/13 21:35:04 (permalink)
    joe rogo that sounds like a swinging joint.
    Last time I was in Pittsburg was about 20 years ago I understand
    it has changed for the better. Went to a ball game there once
    long before that with an uncle---Ralph Kiner hit one that is
    still going. My next door neighbor is from Pittsburg and she
    is a very nice lady,in fact she is there now visiting her 98
    year old mother.

    Back to pubs---my favorite is The Piper's Kilt in Eastchester,
    NY-------very cold beer and great burgers and 1000% Football
    Giant Fans---but I can't go in there during the summer because
    it is a Yankee hangout and they don't like my Red Sox and Met hats.

    Happy St Patricks day to one and all---and may the wind be always
    at your back and may you be in Heaven an hour before the devil
    knows your gone.
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    RE: Pubs 2008/03/13 21:52:27 (permalink)
    the ancient mariner, I'm from Pittston, Pa. about 275 miles east of Pittsburgh. I'm right between Scranton and Wilkes-Barre.
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    RE: Pubs 2008/03/13 22:33:28 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by joerogo

    quote:
    Originally posted by the ancient mariner

    Wait a damn minute here boys, I didn't mention anything about girls, or
    rooms upstairs-------who do you think I am the ex-gov of NY.

    I was talking about good clean fun type pubs. "Put that on my tab please
    Charley I'll see ya next week" kinda pubs.

    Phone rings-barkeep "hi there Mrs Jones, no your husband isn't here" kinda pubs.

    Gotta have great burgers and fries no matter what else !!!!!!!


    The Ooh Ooh Bird Inn in West Pittston, Pa. The owner, Tiny (about 6'7") would never want to lie to someones wife so the phone number is unlisted. The walls are covered with license plates from all over the world. There is a motion detector on the singing fish so it goes off when you walk by.

    The wings are lightly breaded with one of the best sauces I ever had. The burgers are fresh and cooked in a 100 year old cast iron skillet. Fresh cut fries. If I knew how to post a picture you would be heading to West Pittston right now.

    And don't forget the ice cold beer!


    I immediately like a place named after a one-shot character from 'George of the Jungle'!
    The old County Cork pub was the only thing that would make me go to Buckhead (Atlanta) - a German family ran an Irish place in a strip mall building with travel agent/eyeglass shop neighbors and somehow it worked nicely. I don't recall burgers or any food - tended to go there after dinner.
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    RE: Pubs 2008/03/14 07:34:10 (permalink)
    A number of years ago we didn't have "Pubs" they were called Taverns or Bars, and in a lot of cases "Mens Bar". OH, I almost forgot Cafe to.
    One of my old favorites was a Cafe. No bar stools, no ashtrays, no telephone, no TV, and the biggest no, NO Ladies Room. The sign was right on the door. No commode either just a urinal.
    And what a business this place did, 3 bartenders during the lunch hour 11-1
    then 2 bartenders 3-6pm. Chow Jim
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    RE: Pubs 2008/03/15 05:43:39 (permalink)
    Hello All,
    In the late 1970's, we had a place in
    Harrisonburg, Va. called the "Dark Horse Inn."
    It was not an inn, but a college pub that served
    food and beer. It was a haven for poor college
    students that wanted good, cheap food and beer.
    They had entertainment at night, usually a guy or gal
    playing guitar and singing his or her own songs,
    with a guitar case on the floor for you to throw
    tips in.
    I was newly married and a college student.
    I didn't know how to be either and just wanted
    to be me.
    I went there to have a sip or two while studying
    and reading whatever class assignment awaited me.
    They made a sub called, "Sitting Bull" which was
    the best sub I've had and have never found anywhere
    else. It was roast beef, turkey, tomato, lettuce
    and a secret sauce.
    The best thing was the people, both clients and
    servers.
    I had never met a buddist, but there was a regular
    buddist client there. And we talked.
    Though I was married, I developed a crush on one
    of the servers. Gosh, I wanted to be a part of her
    life. Her husband was also a server there I discovered.
    I wanted to hate him, but he was a joy and I did become
    a part of their lives. It taught me
    the foolishness of my fantasties. I became friends
    with both, and realized the emptiness and selfishness
    of my fantasty was nothing compared to the love and
    richness of their true love. I felt shame for my
    feeling for her...and I am glad I did.
    I became such a regular that I was invited upstairs.
    This was the 1970's.
    Upstairs, they smoked pot.
    I didn't. I'm a Christian and also have lungs for
    tobacco only. I hope everyone is laughing at that.
    But I went upstairs and just enjoyed the company,
    rejecting the pipe that passed around, and wanting
    to be a part of their all. But up there, I wasn't
    one of them. I was a sore thumb. I didn't want
    to be, but I made them uncomfortable by not smoking
    the weed, and I felt weird by being in a circle of people
    whose soul reason was to smoke weed. I spoke no words
    against what was going on when they asked me why I
    wouldn't participate. I just didn't understand what
    being asked to join them upstairs meant, and didn't
    think it involved smoking pot. I was, and am, so innocent.
    And I lost my pub. I lost my pub, not because of them,
    but me. I was young and my generation was young.
    Now, there are no such things as pubs in my area.
    Bars and restaurants with bars are focussed on
    glitz and money, not the patrons. The patrons
    reflex the image of the bar, rather than the bar
    reflex the neighborhood or patrons,
    The worship of profit and the appearance of decency
    has destroyed the people's pub or bar in my area.
    There is no place to drink, talk, and sweat with anyone.
    People just seem to want to escape their lives.
    I may be wrong, but to me, a pub is like a church,
    where you renew yourself with members of your community.
    I am getting too old.
    Does anyone understand?
    Take Care,
    Fieldthistle




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    RE: Pubs 2008/03/15 07:05:05 (permalink)
    Wow Fieldthistle that was fantastic. You sure can express
    yourself and your feelings beautifully. And your thoughts on
    the demise of the real "pub" or "tavern" and it's feeling of
    family puts into words what I feel.

    In the theme song for Cheers there is a line "where everybody
    knows your name", that's the place I'm talking about. I
    guess they are gone but not forgotten. Aye, and the world
    is the worst for it too. It's a bloody shame.

    Some great phil-a-soff-ical discussions have been held in
    the pubs of NY --- I learned as much there as from some note
    worthy professors. Actually more !!!! Bartenders and barmaids
    can be great teachers, and your buddy's opinions which he has
    bottled up all day come spilling out when his tongue is wetted.

    I wonder if the pubs of England and Ireland have gone down
    the same route. I know that my grandmother closed down my
    grandfathers pub in County Claire because every man in town
    owed him money and "Himself" was starting to drink what little
    profit was left.

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    RE: Pubs 2008/03/15 07:08:56 (permalink)
    Wow Fieldthistle that was fantastic. You sure can express
    yourself and your feelings beautifully. And your thoughts on
    the demise of the real "pub" or "tavern" and it's feeling of
    family puts into words what I feel.

    In the theme song for Cheers there is a line "where everybody
    knows your name", that's the place I'm talking about. I
    guess they are gone but not forgotten. Aye, and the world
    is the worst for it too. It's a bloody shame.

    Some great phil-a-soff-ical discussions have been held in
    the pubs of NY --- I learned as much there as from some note-
    worthy professors. Actually more !!!! Bartenders and barmaids
    can be great teachers, and your buddy's opinions which he has
    bottled up all day come spilling out when his tongue is wetted.

    I wonder if the pubs of England and Ireland have gone down
    the same route. I know that my grandmother closed down my
    grandfathers pub in County Claire because every man in town
    owed him money and "Himself" was starting to drink up what
    little profit was left.

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    RE: Pubs 2008/03/15 07:11:11 (permalink)
    How did I post twice ??????? It is a puzzlement .......

    Too early in the morning I guess. It probably was the
    computers fault anyhow.
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    RE: Pubs 2008/03/15 14:33:05 (permalink)
    No, sir, you are not getting too old and yes, I understand. Life -

    and Mr. Mariner, your double post - must be magic.
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    RE: Pubs 2008/03/15 14:51:24 (permalink)
    Back in my favorite time of life-we frequented a place called the Whistle Stop.They knew your name, they knew your drink, and they knew when you had enough...much appreciated!!Great burgers, great people!
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    RE: Pubs 2008/03/15 15:01:51 (permalink)
    See, even the ladies in our midst have favorite pubs. Usually I
    associate pubs with the lads amongst us, but Ann you have thrown
    a new light on the subject.

    A great Pub is a beautiful thing. Amen, brother !!!!!
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    RE: Pubs 2008/03/15 15:11:06 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by joerogo

    quote:
    Originally posted by the ancient mariner

    Wait a damn minute here boys, I didn't mention anything about girls, or
    rooms upstairs-------who do you think I am the ex-gov of NY.

    I was talking about good clean fun type pubs. "Put that on my tab please
    Charley I'll see ya next week" kinda pubs.

    Phone rings-barkeep "hi there Mrs Jones, no your husband isn't here" kinda pubs.

    Gotta have great burgers and fries no matter what else !!!!!!!


    The Ooh Ooh Bird Inn in West Pittston, Pa. The owner, Tiny (about 6'7") would never want to lie to someones wife so the phone number is unlisted. The walls are covered with license plates from all over the world. There is a motion detector on the singing fish so it goes off when you walk by.

    The wings are lightly breaded with one of the best sauces I ever had. The burgers are fresh and cooked in a 100 year old cast iron skillet. Fresh cut fries. If I knew how to post a picture you would be heading to West Pittston right now.

    And don't forget the ice cold beer!


    After reading all the great posts I want to add some info.

    The Ooh Ooh Bird has been run by Tiny (again 6'7") and his wife Georgia for basically a lifetime. It is lacated in a very nice old neighborhood in a converted house.

    The crowd is so regular that you know who is going to be there on what day of the week. If someone new walks in it usually takes about 15 minutes before they are talking to everyone at the bar.

    But all good things must come to an end. Tiny's health is failing and the place is for sale.(still open) I only hope the new owner changes nothing.

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    RE: Pubs 2008/03/16 13:10:02 (permalink)
    Mr Mariner - You are correct, Piper Kilt in Eastchester is one of the best pubs around. For a change of pace - I'll hit it's brother & sister Kilt's in Inwood & the Bronx. The have more of an old time feel. The Best burger's around, though I think the wings have gone down hill.

    On a seperate note, I was in Ireland last summer and many of the pubs have suffered from the drunk driving crack down. Sad to see, but the number of accidents is way down so you have to support that!

    I'll treat myself to a cold one today at the Kilarney Rose in lower manhattan today - Great working man's pub!
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    RE: Pubs 2008/03/16 14:27:12 (permalink)
    Some of you need to get out more. The "pub" is making a strong comeback, in the form of local brewpubs. There are numerous ones, in towns of every size, in the PacNW. These brewpubs IMO are much better then any pubs that were around in the 70's, melodrama aside, as they all brew their own beer.

    The local pub is back, and better then ever. while supporting your local roadfood places, make sure to support your local brewer.
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    RE: Pubs 2008/03/17 15:49:27 (permalink)
    Today being St Patrick's Day I am doing some pub hoping around St Pete and Tampa.
    Courigan's to 4 Green Fields, to O'Toole's in Tampa. If any of you fine folk happen
    to meet me in any of these establishments, please ask the Publican for a Harp's or a
    Guinness and I'll stand the tab. Slainte !!!!!
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    RE: Pubs 2008/03/17 17:03:23 (permalink)
    Marched in todays parade which ended right here!
    http://www.hanafinspub.com/
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    RE: Pubs 2008/03/17 19:20:52 (permalink)
    Brickie, if I knew you were there ---------actually I had 4 pints
    in 4 pubs over 3+ hours. Wished a lot of people a glorious Paddy's Day
    and made it home in time for a few laps in the pool. A lovely day here
    in Florida. I might have sent more on gas than on the drinks though---
    it's a horrible shame.

    Hanafin's looks like a fine place and I will be headed up 95 to visit
    some friends in Westerly and will stop in and say you recommended me
    so that you get your usual 20%. If I see ya I'll stand ya one.
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    RE: Pubs 2008/03/17 19:58:04 (permalink)
    Best time brother-in-law and I ever had was at Liberty Steakhouse & Brewery in Myrtle Beach years back. Rule going in one day was we would start-up conversations with as many strangers as possible.
    Shocked at positive-only responses (us being from the NY metro area), we went as many days as we could during our stay. We made so many friends, joined their mug club, and now visit as often as we can. Initial courtesy will work wonders.
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    RE: Pubs 2008/03/17 20:14:54 (permalink)
    Hey Rookiecook welcome to our little party. Very good opening post.

    Sounds like you and your bro-in-law are two smart cookies.
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    RE: Pubs 2008/03/17 22:53:42 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by joerogo
    the ancient mariner, I'm from Pittston, Pa. about 275 miles east of Pittsburgh. I'm right between Scranton and Wilkes-Barre.


    JoeRogo,
    Now I see why you don't have Straub's! (Or Iron City, for that matter.)
    But I bet you can send me to some kinda dynamite pizza, or -- as they say in Hazleton, pitza!!
    Not Waymartianly (Although I Have A Friend From There!), Ort. Carlton in There's A Farview Looking East Off Baxter Hill Athens, Georgia.
    P. S. Ever been to Hruniuk's Pizza & Subs in Mahanoy City? I hear they have an incredible KIELBASY pizza!! Who'd'a thunk it: Ukranians running a pizza place!
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