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signman

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Real Texas Brisket in Manhattan Thu, 07/12/07 12:15 AM (permalink)
This place sounds like the real deal. Rarely will a place get such a positive notice. From Wednesday's New York Times

http://events.nytimes.com/2007/07/11/dining/reviews/11unde.html?ref=dining

Anyone been here yet?
 
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    Twinwillow

    RE: Real Texas Brisket in Manhattan Thu, 07/12/07 1:12 AM (permalink)
    Gosh, Howard. Sounds like Austin. Except for the prices!
     
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      billyboy

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      RE: Real Texas Brisket in Manhattan Thu, 07/12/07 12:18 PM (permalink)
      My buddy and I caught the new Harry Potter film yesterday and we grabbed some "cue at Hill Country before the film. It's in the Chelsea section of NYC on W. 26th Street (near Broadway). I thought it was closed at first as they were painting out in front and doing some signage work. Thankfully they were open. There was a real nice smoky smell upon entering. The hostess explained to us the process. She gave us our tickets and said to hold on to them. We would buy our food and the staff would mark what we had gotten on the ticket and then we would take the ticket to the register at the end of the meal to pay. I forgot to take pictures of the place, but when we walked to our table, I could see a huge stack of wood (post oak I assume).
      We started with the meats. They're weighed and priced by the pound and served on butcher paper. They wrap it up and give to you to take to your table or to go over to the sides counter where you can get a tray for your food. The tables have paper towels, wet naps, silverware, Texas Pete sauce, and Hill Country BBQ sauce on them. The Hill Country BBQ Sauce was thin, tomato based (I believe), somewhat vinegary and really reminiscent of Heinz 57 sauced to me. It worked thougnh and I put some on my butcher paper to dip in if I wanted to. No use covering up the meat. I'm not very good at putting the pics in order so I've got them here in reverse.
      A very refreshing RC Cola (with a mason jar of ice). Very few restaurants in NYC serve RC.

      My full meal. I had the regular Kreuz sausage link, lean brisket, bread, White Shoepeg Corn Pudding, Cool As a Cucumber Salad and green bean casserole. The brisket was great! It had a substantial smoke ring without overwhelming the flavor of the meat and was very moist. I actually prefer it lean as most fatty or moist brisket I have end up being a battle with gristle which I don't care to do when I'm paying by the lb. The sausage link was glistening and looked delicious. It had a welcome beefy flavor and nice spice to it. However, I had an issue with the texture. They provide forks and knives at the table and when I went to cut into my link, the filling squished out of it. It was a butter knife, but I don't think it played a role in it. I really did expect a firmer sausage. Didn't stop me from eating it though. That being said, I think I'd try other menu items before the sausage next time. I'll talk more about the sides later.

      My friend had chicken. I'm not sure if it was the Market chicken or the Beer Can chicken, but it was very moist and tender with a subtle smoke flavor. They offer saltines or slices of bread with the meats. We both went with the bread.

      Another shot of the chicken and bread.

      A shot of my friend's sides. He had the green bean casserole, Shoepeg Corn Pudding and the Longhorn Cheddar Mac and Cheese. He wasn't crazy about the mac and cheese, but I loved it. It was penne pasta and the cheese sauce reminded me a lot of Stouffer's mac and cheese that I ate in my childhood.

      I loved the green bean casserole. French cut green beans, mushrooms, cream sauce (or cream of mushroom soup) and lots of french fried onions. They asked if I wanted extra onions on it, and not wanting to be rude, I obliged (no extra charge for it). That dish brought me back to many Thanksgivings at my Grandma's house and trying to secure my share of the crunchy topping. The corn pudding was rich, custardy and had a nice spicy kick at the back end. Not burn your mouth hot, but definitely a presence. The cucumber salad was very refreshing, like a palate cleanser. Crunchy and vinegary, but not so much that I couldn't taste the cucumbers. It had some onions in it as well.

      A shots of my meats and bread.


      The total for my meal (with tax) was $29.88 and I left the waitress a $5 tip. I thought it was a bit expensive for BBQ, but it is NYC. I think next time I would get less meat and maybe one less side. I would definitely go back as them rest of the menu looks pretty good and I'd like to work my way through it eventually.

       
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        kozel

        RE: Real Texas Brisket in Manhattan Thu, 07/12/07 1:54 PM (permalink)
        Are they serving 'adult' beverages?

        Never mind, the menu answers the question. They have Lone Star but no Shiner Bock!
         
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          signman

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          RE: Real Texas Brisket in Manhattan Thu, 07/12/07 9:27 PM (permalink)
          Thanks Billyboy. I never expected to get such an in depth illustrated review so quickly. Just looking at the pictures, I'd guess you were in Lockhart, TX. Hill Country's owners obviously spent a lot of time there before opening this place. At least they have forks. The brisket looks like it should, and I agree with you about the sausage. I'm not really a sausage eater, but when in Elgin last fall I just had to try it at Southside Market. My impression was the same as yours, too mushy.

          Those side dishes look mighty fine too. There can never be too many onions in a string bean casserole.

          Do you remember the per pound price for the brisket?

          Looks like I'll be making a trip to NY real soon.
           
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            signman

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            RE: Real Texas Brisket in Manhattan Thu, 07/12/07 11:26 PM (permalink)
            I just took a look at their website www.hillcountryny.com (one of the best sites I've seen)and there is a direct connection to Lockhart. The owner has family in Lockhart back 4 generations and his grandfather was once mayor of the town. Must be some deal with Kreuz too. Seems this place has only been open a month. They were at the Madison Square BBQ fest last month, but I'm sure I passed them by. Who would have expected real Texas brisket from a New York restaurant. While I just happened to read the New York Times piece yesterday to find out about this place, they have apparently hired a top notch PR firm to get the word out. Their website has multiple articles and reviews which are worth reading as they are all just singing Hill Country's praises. This place seems ready for their "close up".
             
            #6
              Twinwillow

              RE: Real Texas Brisket in Manhattan Thu, 07/12/07 11:58 PM (permalink)
              The same meal in Lockhart (or, anywhere in Central Texas) would of cost less than half of what this good looking BBQ cost in NYC.
               
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                billyboy

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                RE: Real Texas Brisket in Manhattan Fri, 07/13/07 12:30 PM (permalink)
                There is a pretty extensive thread on Chowhound.com from people who have already gone there. The biggest complaint if I remember correctly is the "sticker shock". Although there was a range of opinions on the quality of the food. I too went to the Big Apple BBQ Block Party and I stopped at the Hill Country booth. I though the beef rib was pretty good. Really smoky and not too chewy (as I find most beef ribs to be). The black-eyed pea salad was a bit too hard for me. I like them a little softer. I think it's a bit expensive, but definitely worth checking out.
                 
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                  wanderingjew

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                  RE: Real Texas Brisket in Manhattan Fri, 07/13/07 12:43 PM (permalink)
                  I would love to know what the Austin Crew's thoughts are on this.
                  (ie Bushie, The Mayor, Sundancer 7 etc)

                  Not to stir anything up, but whenever BBQ in NYC is brought up on the forum, they seem to clam up
                   
                  #9
                    mayor al

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                    RE: Real Texas Brisket in Manhattan Fri, 07/13/07 1:22 PM (permalink)
                    Following the lead of the N E Roadfood expert "Dale", when we go to NYC or the surrounding area we tend not to look for BBQ ! The regional specialties are the target (He Says!) We really don't consider a BBQ stop along the east coast with all the other good stuff available there. However I would like to try the Dinosaur BBQ in either Syracuse or Rochester someday.

                    Frankly that BBQ looks great, and the review sounds fine too. However, as Twinwillow said, We have good BBQ here for a fraction of the price. My bill for 2 pounds of Trimmed Mutton Ribs, a pound of very well trimmed Sliced Pork and two BBQ'd Chicken Halves at the Old Hickory BBQ in Owensboro,KY on Tuesday was $26.00, add $4.00 for two dozen ears of fresh picked supersweet corn and for $30 we enjoyed two dinners for two and still have food left over!
                     
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                      Pigiron

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                      RE: Real Texas Brisket in Manhattan Fri, 07/13/07 1:23 PM (permalink)
                      quote:
                      Originally posted by twinwillow

                      The same meal in Lockhart (or, anywhere in Central Texas) would of cost less than half of what this good looking BBQ cost in NYC.



                      Why does this issue come up over and over again? A restaurant is a vehicle to make money. If the average resident of Lockhart, TX were willing and able to pay $17.50 for brisket (Hill Country, NY price), then you know that Black's BBQ would be charging $17.50. The economy is different in Lockhart than it is in NY, so they charge $8.

                      New York's economy can sustain expensive restaurants. It's not exactly a new phenomenon.
                       
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                        eggsactley

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                        RE: Real Texas Brisket in Manhattan Sat, 07/14/07 8:06 AM (permalink)
                        Compare the rent for commercial space on a per square foot basis between Lockhart,TX and Manhattan and you'll see why they charge so much.
                         
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                          NYNM

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                          RE: Real Texas Brisket in Manhattan Sat, 07/14/07 12:31 PM (permalink)
                          quote:
                          Originally posted by twinwillow

                          The same meal in Lockhart (or, anywhere in Central Texas) would of cost less than half of what this good looking BBQ cost in NYC.



                          Ah but the rent for the place (and all the other overhead) in Central Texas costs half as much...
                           
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