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Dr of BBQ

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Restaurant Ban Kids Under 6 Sun, 07/10/11 9:41 AM (permalink)
Noise Prompts Pennsylvania Restaurant to Ban Kids Under 6  
Published July 09, 2011
 
MONROEVILLE, Pa.-- A restaurant in western Pennsylvania says it's no longer allowing children under age 6.
McDain's Restaurant and Golf Center in Monroeville says the new policy will take effect July 16.

Restaurant owner Mike Vuick said there's "nothing wrong with babies, but the fact is you can't control their volume." He said all that screaming and crying disturbs many of his customers.
 
Some restaurant customers said they support Vuick's right to set rules that he thinks are best for his business. But others said they're offended by the policy.
 
Vuick said that children might be the center of their parents' universe, as it should be. But he says they're not the center of everyone else's universe too.



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/07/09/noise-prompts-pennsylvania-restaurant-to-ban-kids-under-6/#ixzz1Ri2x7EC9

 
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#1
    pnwchef

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    Re:Restaurant Ban Kids Under 6 Sun, 07/10/11 10:53 AM (permalink)
    Kids are a pain in the a-s, I know I have some.............
     
    #2
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      Re:Restaurant Ban Kids Under 6 Sun, 07/10/11 11:09 AM (permalink)
      As the private owner of his restaurant business, Mr. Vuick has the prerogative to decide who he will allow inside the place, just as the general public has the prerogative to decide whether they wish to patronize his restaurant or not.  The public can no more force Mr. Vuick to allow kids under 6 inside (except by the lack of patronage of his restaurant) than he can force every person who walks past his restaurant to enter and purchase food. 
       
      If some of his customers are offended by his policy, then they need to patronize another restaurant which does not offend them.  It is so sad that there are some people who feel that they are so important that everyone else they come in contact with should be required to accommodate their every wish.
       
      #3
        Chicnscoop

        Re:Restaurant Ban Kids Under 6 Sun, 07/10/11 8:08 PM (permalink)
        Many people with young kids let their children trash the table as well. I feel for the waitress or busboy who has to clean up everything after small kids have been there. What a mess.
         
        #4
          lornaschinske

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          Re:Restaurant Ban Kids Under 6 Sun, 07/10/11 8:10 PM (permalink)
          I have no problem with the policy but would rather they ask the parents to leave if the kids act up first rather than outright ban. I taught my kids at an early age that crying and screaming in the restaurants was unacceptable. If they cried, we got up and left. If they pitched a fit because they couldn't have something, we got up and left. Took twice before they got the message. Now, my kids (25yo in Oct) really object to the crying kids in restaurants.
           
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            edwmax

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            Re:Restaurant Ban Kids Under 6 Sun, 07/10/11 8:18 PM (permalink)
            It isn't the kids, IT IS the Parents.   If they can't control their kids, they should be asked to leave.     ... As far as kids trashing a table, the wasted condiments & damage should be added to the bill.
             
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              Greymo

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              Re:Restaurant Ban Kids Under 6 Sun, 07/10/11 8:42 PM (permalink)
              edwmax


              It isn't the kids, IT IS the Parents.   If they can't control their kids, they should be asked to leave.     ... As far as kids trashing a table, the wasted condiments & damage should be added to the bill.


              I fully  agree.  My  grandchildren   (when babies)  were taken out of dining room immediatedly  when  they  started to cry..................we now have friends that do the same thing.  There is never a problem. 
               
              Many kids today have no manners and their parents are clueless.  The kids  get  up and wander around;  they  put their feet on the  chairs,  they  hang over booths and  stare at the  people in the next booth.......I  could go on and on.
               
              I am talking about  kids older than  six years old.  I think that the owner should  go to any  family group that is being  disruptive and ask them to leave.  We have  sat next to many tables with  small children and babies  who behave better than  adullts.    But this  guy is  free to choose his battles!
               
              If I had a  restaurant again  I would  "zone in"  on  all the senior citizens (and others)  who  take  all the  sugar packets,  butter packets,  and  anything else that is not nailed to the table.  These folks  cost money!
               
              #7
                Foodbme

                Re:Restaurant Ban Kids Under 6 Sun, 07/10/11 11:11 PM (permalink)
                edwmax

                It isn't the kids, IT IS the Parents.   If they can't control their kids, they should be asked to leave.     ... As far as kids trashing a table, the wasted condiments & damage should be added to the bill.

                Hear! Hear! I'm with you 100%. The thing that's missing today with young parents is CONSISTANT DISCIPLINE. No means no, not maybe.
                 
                #8
                  ces1948

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                  Re:Restaurant Ban Kids Under 6 Tue, 07/12/11 10:16 PM (permalink)
                  I haven't run across this problem very much. We did however have a VERY loud and impolite crowd of adults who let their children run amok recently. I think the real problem was with the adults.
                   
                  #9
                    Foodbme

                    Re:Restaurant Ban Kids Under 6 Wed, 07/13/11 1:28 AM (permalink)
                    ces1948

                    I haven't run across this problem very much. We did however have a VERY loud and impolite crowd of adults who let their children run amok recently. I think the real problem was with the adults.

                    When parents let the inmates run the Asylum, then you have problems. My wife has a saying when she hears young parents lament about their unruly kids and how they can't control them, she says----"Who's the Parent here?" "Lay down the Law and STICK TO IT!" As stated above, Consistent Discipline is the key.
                     
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                      Dr of BBQ

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                      Re:Restaurant Ban Kids Under 6 Thu, 07/14/11 8:41 AM (permalink)
                      Here's an update
                      Restaurant Owner's Decision to Ban Young Children Provokes Strong Reactions  
                      Published July 13, 2011
                       
                      A restaurant owner in Pennsylvania says his decision to ban kids under 6 from his business has drawn a generally positive reaction, but some parents are crying foul.


                      Mike Vuick, the owner of McDain’s Restaurant in Monroeville, told the Wall Street Journal that he’s received 2,000 emails in regards to the announcement, with the favorable outnumbering the unfavorable 11-to-1.
                       
                      The ban takes effect Saturday, but restaurant traffic was already up 20 percent on Tuesday.
                       
                      There’s "nothing wrong with babies,” Vuick said, “but the fact is you can't control their volume." He said all that screaming and crying disturbs many of his customers.
                      Vuick added that children might be the center of their parents' universe, as it should be. But he says they're not the center of everyone else's universe too.
                       
                      One regular customer, though, told the Wall Street Journal that she was upset with the decision.
                      "All children do not have meltdowns, and I don't feel I should have to suffer the repercussions," said Stephanie Kelley, who has a 13-month old son.
                      The above is from FoxNews.com.
                       
                      By KRIS MAHER WSJ
                      The owner of a small restaurant outside Pittsburgh is banning children under the age of 6, saying they regularly disrupted other customers' meals.
                       
                      The move has touched a nerve and led to television and radio interviews from as far away as New Zealand and Australia for Mike Vuick, owner of McDain's Restaurant and Golf Center in Monroeville, Pa.
                       
                      It has also sparked strong opinions among those who applaud his decision and those against it. Mr. Vuick said he had received 2,000 emails, running 11-to-1 in favor of his decision.
                       
                      "I'm doing this on behalf of all the kind, refined people who have emailed me who have had meals ruined," said Mr. Vuick, a former high-school sociology and psychology teacher. "I've decided someone in our society had to dig their heels in on this issue."
                       
                      One regular patron, Stephanie Kelley, said she was upset her 13-month-old son, Jamison, would no longer be welcome as of Saturday, the day the ban takes effect. She said she emailed Mr. Vuick to suggest he ban kids after a certain hour or partition off a kids-only area, but he said he wouldn't budge.
                       
                      "All children do not have meltdowns, and I don't feel I should have to suffer the repercussions," she said.
                       
                      Ms. Kelley, who said she has dined at the restaurant weekly for the past three years, was set to bring 20 relatives, including cousins from North Carolina, there on Saturday. Now they plan to have a picnic at her home in Level Green, Pa., and she doesn't plan to eat there again.
                       
                      She may be the exception. On Tuesday night, receipts at the 60-seat restaurant, which is attached to a golf-training facility with a driving range and putting greens, were up 20%.
                       
                      A couple from Cleveland made a reservation for this coming weekend to show their support.
                       
                      Mr. Vuick's story spread after he emailed regular customers about the ban last week, and a customer phoned a local TV station.
                       
                      A poll on the website of a Pittsburgh TV news channel found 64% supported the under-six ban, compared with 26% who said it was a bad idea. About 10% said they didn't care. More than 10,000 people voted.
                       
                      Industry officials don't expect a stampede of similar bans. "Most restaurants embrace families and appreciate the business they bring in the door," said Patrick Conway, president and chief executive of the Pennsylvania Restaurant Association, which has 7,000 member restaurants. "I'm sure this policy makes sense for his restaurant."
                       
                      On Wednesday, the National Restaurant Association, a separate organization, launched a "Kids Live Well" program to offer healthier menu options to children, with 15,000 restaurants participating.
                       
                      Click here to read more on this story from the Wall Street Journal.




                       
                      #11
                        pnwchef

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                        Re:Restaurant Ban Kids Under 6 Thu, 07/14/11 9:15 AM (permalink)
                        If you want to ban all the screaming, yelling, pouting, stomping of feet, throw things, crying, arguing, hitting,acting childish, you wouldn't have anyone left in Congress.........GGGEEEZZZZZ, just think if this sticks, the adults will have to start acting like adults........
                         
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                          BackAlleyBurger

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                          Re:Restaurant Ban Kids Under 6 Mon, 07/18/11 5:12 PM (permalink)
                          i just had lunch today at a "higher end" buffet here in town.... i hit the doors at 11:15 (they open at 11) so as to be finishing up as the lunch crowd hit. 
                          this place is huge, seats around 400, and has a fantastic 8 dollar lunch buffet...
                           
                          about 5  minutes into my meal the brat from two tables down starts running around screaming, climbing on chairs.... the mom calls it over in a stern voice, shoves a french fry in its mouth, and then goes back to her own plate of food.... and the little bastard...i mean brat starts it all over again..... all i could think about was this article ....... i came real close to loosing my cool and tripping the little snot as it ran by, but i refrained, last thing i wanted was louder crying and screaming.....that and knowing the institutional carpeting doesnt offer much padding from the concrete underneath.... im not a total asshole, lol
                           
                          but i will promise from the bottom of my heart that the next time that happens i will shame the useless parents to the best of my ability in front of anyone listening........
                           
                          #13
                            Tony Bad

                            Re:Restaurant Ban Kids Under 6 Tue, 07/19/11 1:45 PM (permalink)
                            $8 is "higher end"?
                             
                            Damn, McDoodles or Burger King is almost $8 round here
                             
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                              BackAlleyBurger

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                              Re:Restaurant Ban Kids Under 6 Tue, 07/19/11 2:08 PM (permalink)
                              hey.... that includes prime rib, stuffed shrimp, beef ribs, you name it...
                               
                              lol, thats why i put higher end in parenthesis,  the place is new, still smells clean, and the food is great ! and there is carpet on the floor, lol
                               
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                                Re:Restaurant Ban Kids Under 6 Tue, 07/19/11 5:03 PM (permalink)
                                Tony Bad


                                $8 is "higher end"?

                                Damn, McDoodles or Burger King is almost $8 round here


                                That just shows you the difference in prices between New York and the rest of the U. S.
                                 
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                                  The Travelin Man

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                                  Re:Restaurant Ban Kids Under 6 Tue, 07/19/11 5:52 PM (permalink)
                                  I have a co-worker who has McDonald's almost every day for lunch.  He orders the double quarter pounder meal, with the large fries and large drink.  I was trying to encourage him to eat at a local diner that makes a great burger and asked how much his meal was.  He showed me a receipt for $7.69 - which I would call "almost $8."  I live in the "rest of the country" and can absolutely verify that Tony's NY prices are not out of line.
                                   
                                  Note to self: Purchase "Super Size Me" for office gift exchange this year. 
                                   
                                  #17
                                    Parrot Cage

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                                    Re:Restaurant Ban Kids Under 6 Tue, 07/19/11 7:39 PM (permalink)
                                    Super Size Me was severely slanted. Another team made a different documentary, called Fat Head, based on the same experiment and the guy LOST weight. I'm not saying Mickey D's is health food, I'm just saying you choose what you put in your mouth.
                                     
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