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RE: "Retro" Salads or "Just Plain Weird"? 2004/03/11 19:32:58 (permalink)
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I am about to shake up a Plymouth Martini. As for the Bombay, I have a bottle packed for a short trip to NYC tomorrow. I must not forget the olives.


GRAMPY: Forgive my ignorance, but what is a Plymouth Martini? Also, out of curiosity, how much Bombay do you pack for a short trip? (I like Tanqueray for a short trip--a 375ml bottle. That lasts me a couple of nights. Bombay doesn't come in half-bottles.)
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RE: "Retro" Salads or "Just Plain Weird"? 2004/03/11 20:13:34 (permalink)
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I am about to shake up a Plymouth Martini. As for the Bombay, I have a bottle packed for a short trip to NYC tomorrow. I must not forget the olives.


GRAMPY: Forgive my ignorance, but what is a Plymouth Martini? Also, out of curiosity, how much Bombay do you pack for a short trip? (I like Tanqueray for a short trip--a 375ml bottle. That lasts me a couple of nights. Bombay doesn't come in half-bottles.)


Plymouth is a very dry, conventional British gin. My favorite. I pack one bottle as we are only staying 2 nights. Of course, we do plan to go to the Beekman for drinks. Haryy's in the Sherry Netherlands on a Friday afternoon is a favorite, but we we be in Chinatown shopping at that time. Cheers!
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RE: "Retro" Salads or "Just Plain Weird"? 2004/03/11 21:09:23 (permalink)
A 750 ml bottle of Bombay gets me to Florida, unless my wife decides to drink Martinis instead of her usual Manhattans, in which case we need to stop in Delaware to buy another bottle. I must admit that I'm so niggardly with the bottle of Plymouth my wife gave me back in January that I don't even share it with her- and there's still about half left.

Grampy: Someplace years ago, I think it might have been a Joe Palmer article on the Kentuckey Derby, was described a gelatin salad that was actually a solidified Martini - cubes of plain gelatin Martini- I don't think any dressing was provided. Have you ever seen a recipe that might actually work to make such a delight?
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RE: "Retro" Salads or "Just Plain Weird"? 2004/03/11 22:26:31 (permalink)
SJ: Tiny gray cells will work upon this upon my return from NYC.
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RE: "Retro" Salads or "Just Plain Weird"? 2004/03/12 00:02:51 (permalink)
WEDGIES" (I got a kick out of the title.)

Spread 4 slices of large bologna or minced ham with softened cream cheese seasoned with onions or chives and mustard. Place slices together (like a layer cake). Spread with cheese over top and sides, decorate with sliced olives. Chill. Cut into wedges.

Kimchee
The title is great....But what are you supposed to DO with it once you cut it into wedges?!
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RE: "Retro" Salads or "Just Plain Weird"? 2004/03/12 02:54:21 (permalink)
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Oh KimChee, that calls for dessert!!




That looks like Southeast Asian coconut-based seaweed jelly dessert which is actually yummy. However, we don't use such bright colours. Everything is pastel coloured because we mix in so much coconut cream and coconut palm sugar.
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RE: "Retro" Salads or "Just Plain Weird"? 2004/03/12 08:26:49 (permalink)
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WEDGIES" (I got a kick out of the title.)

Spread 4 slices of large bologna or minced ham with softened cream cheese seasoned with onions or chives and mustard. Place slices together (like a layer cake). Spread with cheese over top and sides, decorate with sliced olives. Chill. Cut into wedges.

Kimchee
The title is great....But what are you supposed to DO with it once you cut it into wedges?!


BUGGSY: I don't even want to go there!
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RE: "Retro" Salads or "Just Plain Weird"? 2004/03/12 09:47:07 (permalink)
My favorite quote from Meowzarts article:


"America's heritage on a paper plate."
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RE: "Retro" Salads or "Just Plain Weird"? 2004/03/12 10:03:26 (permalink)
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My favorite quote from Meowzarts article:


"America's heritage on a paper plate."


LONE STAR: I heartily concur.
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RE: "Retro" Salads or "Just Plain Weird"? 2004/03/12 10:03:47 (permalink)
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LUMBERJACK MACARONI

Spread out on large hot platter...


Sing Monty Python's "Lumberjack Song". Apply salve to burns...
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RE: "Retro" Salads or "Just Plain Weird"? 2004/03/15 11:12:16 (permalink)
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Grampy: Someplace years ago, I think it might have been a Joe Palmer article on the Kentuckey Derby, was described a gelatin salad that was actually a solidified Martini - cubes of plain gelatin Martini- I don't think any dressing was provided. Have you ever seen a recipe that might actually work to make such a delight?


I did my snooping, and this is what I came up with. The article relates to "Jelly Shots," which hark back to Jerry Thomas: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/guides/guide-display/-/10YQ1S84HNS6/002-5202826-8828829
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RE: "Retro" Salads or "Just Plain Weird"? 2004/03/15 12:17:17 (permalink)
Thanks, Grampy: The Jelly Shots look just like what I was asking about. I think I'll start an experiment this afternoon with a Martini. But, I'm not sure where they belong in the dinner- after the entree and before the salad? After dinner but before the cofffee and dessert? Should they accompany cheese? Seems like I'll have to woork this out over a series of dinners - tough work, but someone has to do it...
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RE: "Retro" Salads or "Just Plain Weird"? 2004/03/15 12:40:10 (permalink)
SJ: I know that kind of tough work. I needed to do it, too, when I worked on my small Martini book. But it does look like will destroy this old joke while munching on those jellies:

"Do you drink gin, Phil?"
"What else can you do with it?"
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RE: "Retro" Salads or "Just Plain Weird"? 2004/03/15 17:29:28 (permalink)
That would be Phil Baker?
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RE: "Retro" Salads or "Just Plain Weird"? 2004/03/16 08:18:47 (permalink)
Correction: Phil Harris. Phil Baker was a kid who sat next to me in Krieger Elementary School in the '30s. Excuse the Senior moment.
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RE: "Retro" Salads or "Just Plain Weird"? 2004/03/16 09:29:09 (permalink)
Thanks, John, for clearing that up. Not having been to Krieger Elementary, I was in a bit of a quandary.
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RE: "Retro" Salads or "Just Plain Weird"? 2004/03/16 10:25:10 (permalink)
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"Do you drink gin, Phil?"
"What else can you do with it?"


"In case you've haven't noticed kid, I'm no wild animal except at parties."
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RE: "Retro" Salads or "Just Plain Weird"? 2004/03/16 10:30:43 (permalink)
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quote:
Originally posted by Grampy

"Do you drink gin, Phil?"
"What else can you do with it?"


"In case you've haven't noticed kid, I'm no wild animal except at parties."


And I'm sure those jelly bites are guaranteed to break the ice at parties.
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RE: "Retro" Salads or "Just Plain Weird"? 2004/03/16 11:53:12 (permalink)
Just curious...how are you supposed to serve those Jelly Shots? With a toothpick and olive attached to each one (as in hors d'ouvre-style)? In a martini glass with a spoon (as in dessert-style)?
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RE: "Retro" Salads or "Just Plain Weird"? 2004/03/16 12:23:01 (permalink)
Are jelly bites the same as Jell-o shooters which are usually made with vodka?
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RE: "Retro" Salads or "Just Plain Weird"? 2004/03/16 13:05:13 (permalink)
Scarlett: It looks like you are way ahead of us. They seem to be the same thing, with the possible exception that Jelly shots are apparently usually made with plain gelatin while Jello Shooters , I guess, are made with flavored jello. Let us know your experience with these things...

Kim Chee: That is one of the obstacles we will have to overcome in our reasearch. When and how to serve those presumably delectible little bites of booze? I did not have the time yesterday to start the experiment, and this afternoon does'nt look any better - maybe tomorrow when we are snowed in will prove to be the time I need to get started. If you try it out, keep us posted on your findings...
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RE: "Retro" Salads or "Just Plain Weird"? 2004/03/16 13:33:37 (permalink)
SJ: Being lazy, I'd rather leave the research up to you, and then go along with your findings, one way or the other. I'm a purist, so I would NEVER use flavored Jello in a Martini Jelly Shot--only unflavored will suffice for me.
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RE: "Retro" Salads or "Just Plain Weird"? 2004/03/16 13:48:11 (permalink)
The Jello Shooters are made with any flavor Jello you like.

At Christmas I make a strawberry batch and a lime batch.
I dissolve the Jello in 1/2 to 1 cup boiling water and put it in the refrigerator to chill. Use chilled vodka for the other cup of liquid. I pour the chilled 'goody' in small paper cups - the kind some restaurants use for small servings of catchup. When they are all chilled and firm - just put the cup in your mouth and squeez the cup. Yummmm

I plan to try the Jelly Bites and I hope you enjoy the shooters if you decide to give them a try.
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RE: "Retro" Salads or "Just Plain Weird"? 2004/03/16 22:12:09 (permalink)
Scarlett: What a neat solution to a slippery problem - little cups that you just pop in your mouth - guess you just spit it out like a watermellon seed. It will certainly be a part of my experiments- if I can find the cups...
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RE: "Retro" Salads or "Just Plain Weird"? 2004/03/16 22:27:16 (permalink)
I know you'll love these things. The cups I use are made by Solo Cup Company (Urbana, IL 61802-2895) They are called Paper Souffles (1/2 oz) No. 38. I guess you could get rid of the cup like watermelon seed but I just sqeeze on the cup like it's a grape and dispose of the cup like a grape hull.

As a matter of fact I think I'll make some lime flavored ones for St. Patty's... Any reason is a good reason to have these little lovelies around. Enjoy!
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RE: "Retro" Salads or "Just Plain Weird"? 2004/03/18 11:54:34 (permalink)
I did it yesterday- St Patrick's Day. I gelled up some green "jelly shots"
from Vodka and Creme de Menthe. My guests were overwhelmed! That is to say they were nearly overcome- the flavor was so intense and my servings were too generous.

I was afraid of an insipid flavor, so I used 4 oz. of water to 6 oz. of Vodka and 2 oz. of Creme de Menthe. That looked so pretty that I decided to top it off with a similar mixture of Vodka and Creme de Cocao and a bit of yellow food coloring to make the color of the golden harp. In all I had 16 oz. of gelled fun, distributed between three 6 oz yogurt containers. It unmolded perfectly with a quivering green mound surmounting the golden base.
I served it after dinner, but before the Irish Coffee - which seemed about right as a "palate cleanser" between courses. One tablespoon of "Grayslake" plain gelatin was sufficient for the pint of jelly. Next time, I'll try the Martini jelly with a slightly more watery mix and serve it at the cocktail hour.
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RE: "Retro" Salads or "Just Plain Weird"? 2004/03/18 11:57:07 (permalink)
Another lovely "Gallery of Regrettable Food" image for your inspiration:



I love the color!!
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RE: "Retro" Salads or "Just Plain Weird"? 2004/03/18 12:22:41 (permalink)
SJ: Good for you! That sounds classy! I'll have to try that one. I made the 'standard' Jell-o shooters with lime Jello-- now I can't keep my hand out of the refrigerator. If you come up with any more variations I would love to try them.


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RE: "Retro" Salads or "Just Plain Weird"? 2004/03/18 12:46:10 (permalink)
pogo, that looks positively yummy! Pimento stuffed green olive gelatin with.....what are the white things? Popcorn? Marshmallows? And what are the cups surrounding this abomination? What are they stuffed with? I think I'll pass and have the Snappy Mackerel Casserole for lunch.
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RE: "Retro" Salads or "Just Plain Weird"? 2004/03/18 13:13:15 (permalink)
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pogo, that looks positively yummy! Pimento stuffed green olive gelatin with.....what are the white things? Popcorn? Marshmallows?


I'm thinking maybe sculpted cream cheese?
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