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Re:Roadfood Loyalty Oath? 2013/12/28 09:30:16 (permalink)
I read a report that the Earth's magnetic poles were preparing to flip. Some signs that it has begun?
 
Roadfood of the Day: Pizzeria Uno - Chicago, IL
Posted on Wednesday, December 25, 2013

 
Digest: A Turtle Sundae in Dixie
Posted by Michael Stern on Saturday, December 28, 2013 5:19 AM

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Re:Roadfood Loyalty Oath? 2013/12/28 17:50:37 (permalink)
Culver's yeah
 
But _the_ Pizzeria Uno is not the same as the widely franchised Uno Grills.  Similar in name only.
 
_The_Pizzeria Uno is roadfood
 
The franchised Unos? Not so much
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Re:Roadfood Loyalty Oath? 2013/12/28 19:13:59 (permalink)
Before they were Uno Grills, they were Pizzeria Uno. I used to eat at the one in Orlando 25 years ago, so this I know is a fact.
 
I think I get it.  Pizzeria Uno was Roadfood until they franchised, at which time Pizzeria Uno became crap until magically it became Roadfood again when the franchises failed and/or changed names. Except, the corporate website (based in Boston, no less) shows stores #1 & #2 (Uno & Due, get it?) today serve much the same menu (less the grill) as chain franchises #3, #4, etc. elsewhere in the world.
 
I'll need to get the Roadfood decoder ring some day.
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Re:Roadfood Loyalty Oath? 2013/12/28 19:19:26 (permalink)
The menu at the franchised Unos may be similar, perhaps even word for word
 
But the products are similar in name, not in quality
 
Ponderosa serves a porterhouse steak. 
Peter Luger serves a porterhouse steak
I assure you the quality is vastly different despite the menu items having the EXACT same name
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Re:Roadfood Loyalty Oath? 2013/12/28 19:27:01 (permalink)
TJ - You had me until the Peter Luger analogy. That is simply invalid.
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Re:Roadfood Loyalty Oath? 2013/12/28 19:30:19 (permalink)
I think that the 'knit-pickers' need to sit back and stifle their cries of 'Foul'.  When the site owner and 'Grand Pooba' of Roadfood recognizes that a business puts out a quality product , worthy of consideration by the members, the  conflicting semantics  should cease.  if you don't like Culvers, don't go there...same for pizza or Lukefish or anything else. Leave the labels to the litigators, Please.
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Re:Roadfood Loyalty Oath? 2013/12/28 19:48:52 (permalink)
not invalid
 
both menu items are called "porterhouse steak"
 
Fact is, they're "exactly alike" in the same way that the "deep dish pizza" is exactly alike at _the_ Unos and the franchised Unos - ie, not at all....other than in name
 
So back to your original point - the fact that Mr Stern is holding up the pizza at _the_ Unos is not an pardigm shift at all.  The franchised Unos and the items on their menu are related in name ONLY to _the_ Unos.
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Re:Roadfood Loyalty Oath? 2013/12/29 14:48:35 (permalink)
I recognize the need some folks have for "BEATING BEYOND RECOGNITION, A DEAD HORSE". But Please stick a sock in this constant blather of what is or isn't meeting "your" standard of the term ROADFOOD.  To each his/her own.
Silence, in this case, is golden. Consider this suggestion an investment guide in your future.
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Re:Roadfood Loyalty Oath? 2013/12/29 15:01:19 (permalink)
Thanks for stating what should be obvious to all of us.
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Re:Roadfood Loyalty Oath? 2013/12/29 18:38:28 (permalink)
Hear, hear! Oooh, what you said!
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Re:Roadfood Loyalty Oath? 2013/12/29 20:09:41 (permalink)
What else will we have to bicker about?
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Re:Roadfood Loyalty Oath? 2013/12/30 08:40:42 (permalink)
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On an aside, I live in a  small-medium sized city and although I  keep "normal" hours meaning I'm never out past 11pm or before 7am, I have never had to resort to going to chains...It is simply beyond my comprehension why this is "such a problem" for others.
 
I guess I missed the pledge to forgo all chain restaurants when I registered at Roadfood.com. Frankly, I think the very suggestion of this is ridiculous and I make no attempt to avoid chain restaurants. In the last 12 months I've patronized the following chains and am damn proud of it:
  • Smashburger
  • Domino's
  • Bojangles
  • P.F. Changs
  • Which Wich?
  • Five Guys
  • Noodles
  • Culver's
  • Papa John's
  • In-N-Out Burger
  • Jimmy John's
  • Dickey's Barbecue
  • Sonic Drive-in
  • Stir Crazy
  • Pei Wei
I've been to the three in red during the last 12 months.  Love the 50 cent cent corn dogs at Sonic on Halloween.
 
Didn't Pei Wei invent the '5 point palm exploding heart technique'?

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Re:Roadfood Loyalty Oath? 2013/12/30 11:20:43 (permalink)
Were it not for the 'franchise' appearance, uniforms, color scheme, and graphics I'd have sworn the first Culver's I happened upon served true "Roadfood".
 
 
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Re:Roadfood Loyalty Oath? 2013/12/30 14:26:52 (permalink)
All right, TM, bicker away!
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Re:Roadfood Loyalty Oath? 2013/12/31 09:05:37 (permalink)
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In that same period I have dined at many non-franchised restaurants (including Roadfood-reviewed places) and have been disappointed very often. I believe that most non-chain restaurants are rubbish. There's a reason that chains continue to thrive, they are generally better than Mom & Pop restaurants. In fact, the very existence of this website and the Roadfood books supports my belief. If good non-chain restaurants were easy to find, Roadfood.com would not need to exist.

It's a fact!


 
I don't think we're beating a dead horse here at all. I think this is a fantastic thread with constructive comments. I'm not certain why anyone would think that. I found lots of topics here on the forum that don't interest me. Many are questions that can be answered with one or two responses yet seem to generate dozens of responses. There are others (what's for dinner, what's for lunch) which I truly think is beating a dead horse, yet no one else (even though I know that other highly respected roadfooders agree with me) have openly admitted it. Or another I just saw who remembers Morton's? that I also put in the "who cares?" category that has generated 104 responses. I thrive on threads like this one and I believe this is what makes roadfood forums vibrant and interesting.
 
I'm still dumbfounded by this original statement
It's not a fact, that's your opinion.
I've thought about my comment about living in Rhode Island and finding lots of great independent restaurants. I've even thought about some of the ones reviewed here by the Sterns' on Roadfood, many of which are ok (Iggy's, Aunt Carries) but I have found many similar restaurants on my own (Duffy's Tavern, Crow's Nest) which are much, much better.... Either way, I've also lived in NYC/Long Island, Seattle, Pittsburgh and Albuquerque and can say the same, I've found fantastic local independent restaurants that would put any of the chains to shame. When I travel around the country I would say my researching and finding local restaurants or using the roadfood website or books, I've been satisfied 9 out of 10 times and I'm not someone who is overly enthusastic with each and every find whether it be a roadfood find or a place I found on my own. For example, on our last NYC tour, every place we went to was fine, but nothing really blew me away....
 
So in a nutshell, I think JRPfeff has just had some really rotten luck
post edited by wanderingjew - 2013/12/31 09:35:26
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Re:Roadfood Loyalty Oath? 2013/12/31 11:42:38 (permalink)
 99% of my life has been chain-free.  McDonalds had not yet arrived in France during the 7 years I lived there, thank God.  I was too busy working when I lived in Boston to eat out much, but when we did it was usually Chinatown or The Daily Catch.  Alaska had McDonald's and Burger King but we ate at great places like The Lucky Wishbone (great fried chicken), Humpy's, Glacier Brewhouse and many sushi/sashimi places.  Here in Ohio we have Gahanna Grill, Tommy's Diner, Philip's Coney Island, Crabill's...........the list goes on and on.  Personally I have no desire to eat FF.   
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Re:Roadfood Loyalty Oath? 2013/12/31 12:12:09 (permalink)
Lisa, I have to agree. My parents, when we did go out to eat in the 60s, it was ALWAYS one of a kind restaurants. Or even the 70s. Nothing fast food at all. The first time as family ordering McDonalds on a road trip to Washington DC, Dad threw his burger out the window on the freeway and said that it was disgusting. I laughed and laughed. The only exception was off the freeway on the way home-we liked Howard Johnsons sundaes in the metal cups........
 
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Re:Roadfood Loyalty Oath? 2013/12/31 12:21:23 (permalink)
I don't have a problem with fast food  chains. Some of them I like, some I don't. White Castle? Love it. Chipotle? I like it. I even like McDonald's habanero ranch quarter pounder. But I really prefer local places, some of which lleechef mentioned in her post. I can name lots more around here, but the same is true wherever I've been -- from Connecticut to Arizona to Alaska to the Virgin islands. And by the way, like Jim, I've been in a lot of clinkers, too. Being a mom and pop doesn't guarantee anything.
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Re:Roadfood Loyalty Oath? 2013/12/31 12:24:46 (permalink)
I have to agree with the ladies above. I've been doing cross-country motorcycle trips for years (usually Rocky Mountain States and about 5000 mi. trips), and can honestly say I've NEVER eaten in a FF establishment on any of the trips. Are you kidding? An Egg McMuffin instead of huevos rancheros cooked before your eyes at Juanita's in Bridgeport, NE? Another thing that bugs me are people who travel to international destinations and actually strive to find the nearest Burger King. End of rant, and Happy New Year!
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Re:Roadfood Loyalty Oath? 2013/12/31 13:22:12 (permalink)
Ann, thank you for mentioning HoJo, an all time favorite of mine.  I miss their ice cream like you wouldn't believe.
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Re:Roadfood Loyalty Oath? 2013/12/31 13:27:39 (permalink)
lleechef

 99% of my life has been chain-free.  McDonalds had not yet arrived in France during the 7 years I lived there, thank God.  I was too busy working when I lived in Boston to eat out much, but when we did it was usually Chinatown or The Daily Catch.  Alaska had McDonald's and Burger King but we ate at great places like The Lucky Wishbone (great fried chicken), Humpy's, Glacier Brewhouse and many sushi/sashimi places.  Here in Ohio we have Gahanna Grill, Tommy's Diner, Philip's Coney Island, Crabill's...........the list goes on and on.  Personally I have no desire to eat FF.   

I hear there is this great place in Gahanna called LeeHoff's. The menu is supposed to be great, consisting of a variety of dishes from chateaubriand to Ravioli-o's. Supposed to be a fun atmosphere too!
 
PS----I searched my old photos and found a picture of the 1% that lleechef was not chain-free.
 
 
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Re:Roadfood Loyalty Oath? 2013/12/31 13:39:31 (permalink)
HA!!!  ROFL!!!
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Re:Roadfood Loyalty Oath? 2013/12/31 13:54:31 (permalink)
Happy New Year Dale!!! I'm looking forward to enjoying coffee & chili with you in Cincinnati.
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Re:Roadfood Loyalty Oath? 2013/12/31 14:15:23 (permalink)
JRPfeff

Happy New Year Dale!!! I'm looking forward to enjoying coffee & chili with you in Cincinnati.


Same here, happy New Year to you too, Jim.
Perhaps coffee can be added as a topping  as some type of new "6 way chili"
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Re:Roadfood Loyalty Oath? 2013/12/31 17:57:19 (permalink)
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lleechef

99% of my life has been chain-free.  McDonalds had not yet arrived in France during the 7 years I lived there, thank God.  I was too busy working when I lived in Boston to eat out much, but when we did it was usually Chinatown or The Daily Catch.  Alaska had McDonald's and Burger King but we ate at great places like The Lucky Wishbone (great fried chicken), Humpy's, Glacier Brewhouse and many sushi/sashimi places.  Here in Ohio we have Gahanna Grill, Tommy's Diner, Philip's Coney Island, Crabill's...........the list goes on and on.  Personally I have no desire to eat FF.   

I hear there is this great place in Gahanna called LeeHoff's. The menu is supposed to be great, consisting of a variety of dishes from chateaubriand to Ravioli-o's. Supposed to be a fun atmosphere too!

PS----I searched my old photos and found a picture of the 1% that lleechef was not chain-free.



Yeah, well, there was that ONE time......the barn looked SO inviting and it was summer and I was young and crazy........but it was only ONCE, I swear!
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Re:Roadfood Loyalty Oath? 2013/12/31 17:59:23 (permalink)
How come you don't dress like that for me?
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Re:Roadfood Loyalty Oath? 2013/12/31 18:31:29 (permalink)
Cuz MH won't share the dress...
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Re:Roadfood Loyalty Oath? 2013/12/31 18:58:36 (permalink)
Now wait just a darned minute ... .
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Re:Roadfood Loyalty Oath? 2013/12/31 22:16:37 (permalink)
JRPfeff Happy New Year Dale!!! I'm looking forward to enjoying coffee & chili with you in Cincinnati.
Coffee?  Does this mean we'll be getting up early?  In the morning?
Buddy
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Re:Roadfood Loyalty Oath? 2013/12/31 22:21:43 (permalink)
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JRPfeff Happy New Year Dale!!! I'm looking forward to enjoying coffee & chili with you in Cincinnati.
Coffee?  Does this mean we'll be getting up early?  In the morning?
Buddy

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