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Re:Rocky Mountain Highs and Big Skies 2009 Part 6 updated 8/21 2009/08/23 14:44:13 (permalink)
Two comments Dale-

1. At the Star Hotel you say it was packed and you had to wait for a table...but the photo you posted show a totally empty dining room??? Are you buying stock postcards and scanning them in as your photos? 

2. The SLC Bees were at one time in the old Pacific Coast League with the original L A Angels, Hollywood Stars, San Francisco Seals etc etc. I recall seeing them play in L A many years ago. This was before the Dodgers and Giants moved West. 
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Re:Rocky Mountain Highs and Big Skies 2009 Part 6 updated 8/21 2009/08/23 16:10:22 (permalink)
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1. At the Star Hotel you say it was packed and you had to wait for a table...but the photo you posted show a totally empty dining room??? Are you buying stock postcards and scanning them in as your photos? 

Uh, oh ....

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Re:Rocky Mountain Highs and Big Skies 2009 Part 7 updated 8/23 2009/08/24 08:16:12 (permalink)
Nancy

I've heard of the Green River Killer, I never heard of the Truckee River Killer, why? Are you thinking of a new career ?

TJ

It's just as big of a mystery to me as it is to you. From what I can gather it's either a type of potato or a local brand of potato.

Al

I took the photo right before I left. Literally half the place cleared out  from the time I sat down till the time I left. I think I got there 5 minutes after noon, so I guess it was at the height of lunch hour.
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Re:Rocky Mountain Highs and Big Skies 2009 Part 7 updated 8/23 2009/08/24 09:13:20 (permalink)
Hmmm, Half the place emptied out shortly after you sat down??  I wonder if there is a link between  those two events? 
 
BTW,  Your coverage of Basque places has really helped bring  recognition that "minority food report" . But enough with the coffee,beer, burger, and french fry stops..While they are all neat independent stops, they tend to blur into one "BK" sort of meal!!
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Re:Rocky Mountain Highs and Big Skies 2009 Part 6 updated 8/21 2009/08/24 09:53:28 (permalink)
Gorgeous scenery at the lake, and nummers, frybread. 
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Re:Rocky Mountain Highs and Big Skies 2009 Part 6 updated 8/21 2009/08/24 10:41:27 (permalink)
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Beer and coffee is an integral part of roadfood in this part of the country. Usually it's just an afterthought, but the quality was so outstanding I can't ignore it.

Burgers? I only had 4 stops so far 2 beef and 2 buffalo (with one more stop in the final chapter)

This is the burger belt (beef and buffalo) of the country along with the heartland.
Ccertainly not that city located in the southern region of the west coast. This trip has certainly put aside that notion once and for all in my mind.
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Re:Rocky Mountain Highs and Big Skies 2009 Part 6 updated 8/21 2009/08/24 11:30:04 (permalink)
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This is the burger belt (beef and buffalo) of the country along with the heartland.
Ccertainly not that city located in the southern region of the west coast.

Was'nt you who once said that OMAHA was the burger capital?
(looks like OMAHA is now 2nd place for you?)
(cause of the "buffalo" burger choice factor?.... no buffalo burgers in Omaha,  although those Nebraska cows would probably appreciate a little repreive!)
 
For me, personally, I like L.A., cause there are so many selections.... lots of restaurants choices to get fresh ground beef ..
had an excellent char broiled one at THE COUNTER in El Segundo, (by LAX) ...best I ever had...
True, there were no COWS around, but excellent none the less..
 
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Re:Rocky Mountain Highs and Big Skies 2009 Part 6 updated 8/21 2009/08/24 11:40:31 (permalink)
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Was'nt you who once said that OMAHA was the burger capital?
(looks like OMAHA is now 2nd place for you?)
(cause of the "buffalo" burger choice factor?.... no buffalo burgers in Omaha,  although those Nebraska cows would probably appreciate a little repreive!) 

 
No and No
 
 I said, Omaha had  a very noticeable and present burger culture, I never referred to it as the burger capital specifically
 
Omaha is not 2nd place for me,  both the heartland and mountain states are truly the burger belt of this nation.
 

For me, personally, I like L.A., cause there are so many selections.... lots of restaurants choices to get fresh ground beef ..
had an excellent char broiled one at THE COUNTER in El Segundo, (by LAX) ...best I ever had...
True, there were cows around, but excellent none the less..
 


Well, all I saw was a vast sea of mediocrity
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Re:Rocky Mountain Highs and Big Skies 2009 Part 6 updated 8/21 2009/08/24 11:50:15 (permalink)
Did you find any huckleberry smoothies you forgot to tell us about?
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Re:Rocky Mountain Highs and Big Skies 2009 Part 6 updated 8/21 2009/08/24 11:56:23 (permalink)
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Did you find any huckleberry smoothies you forgot to tell us about?


Well, I looked in Boise but  they were hidden between the imaginary Basque restaurants (imaginarily discussed in the Stern's most recent book), the imaginary basque market, and the imaginary basque museum, all located in the imaginary Basque Block, where they had the imaginary Basque Festival
 
You know what I'm talking about.
It may take days, weeks,  months, or in this case years, but ultimately, if I make a statement (and I only do if I know and am confident of the facts) I'm almost always right
Besides, I wasn't in Southern California, the smoothie capital of the nation
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Re:Rocky Mountain Highs and Big Skies 2009 Part 6 updated 8/21 2009/08/24 12:02:58 (permalink)
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Well, all I saw was a vast sea of mediocrity
 
In that case, you definitely missed THIS great charbroiled burger at THE COUNTER !!

The Counter, El Segundo, (about 3 miles from LAX and the ocean)
I wish I could bite into one of those right now! 

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Re:Rocky Mountain Highs and Big Skies 2009 Part 6 updated 8/21 2009/08/24 12:26:31 (permalink)
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Well, all I saw was a vast sea of mediocrity
 
In that case, you definitely missed THIS great charbroiled burger at THE COUNTER !!
 
The Counter, El Segundo, (about 3 miles from LAX and the ocean)
I wish I could bite into one of those right now! 


Yes, I know I mentioned I didn't go to the counter because they have one in Hartford CT which I can go to anytime. Either way, it looks about as good as (and I hope it tastes as good as) the burger I get here in Rhode Island at Ward's Publyck House.


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Re:Rocky Mountain Highs and Big Skies 2009 Part 6 updated 8/21 2009/08/24 14:19:54 (permalink)
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You know what I'm talking about.
It may take days, weeks,  months, or in this case years, but ultimately, if I make a statement (and I only do if I know and am confident of the facts) I'm almost always right


Once again, as a public service to the newbies around here, I will use the wanderingjew-to-English translator that was gifted to me last Purim.

"You know what I'm talking about." - I have already said this 2,500 times...to the point that everyone tunes me out when I speak.

"It may take days, weeks,  months, or in this case years, but ultimately, if I make a statement (and I only do if I know and am confident of the facts) I'm almost always right..."- After shoving my opinion down everyone's throats, ad nauseum, I will do whatever it takes to prove my point...whether anyone else cares or not.

"Besides, I wasn't in Southern California, the smoothie capital of the nation" - Love and kisses, wanderingjew.
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Re:Rocky Mountain Highs and Big Skies 2009 Part 6 updated 8/21 2009/08/24 14:49:19 (permalink)
I think that would be love and knishes.

Throw in a hamentashen while you're at it.
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Re:Rocky Mountain Highs and Big Skies 2009 Part 6 updated 8/21 2009/08/24 15:11:15 (permalink)
Hey, WJ , you are lucky you've got a place like Ward's Publyk House to get a similar burger at....
(plus that Counter burger location in West Hartford. )
we don't have too many real decent burger joints in AC area...(well, there's always Five Guys, but I need more!)  (more places!)  (besides I LIKE Five Guys, but don't LOVE it)

I wish I had a Counter burger closer to me; then I most certainly WON'T be going to the one in L.A. anymore...
(supposed to be one opening in Philly, "coming soon" , it's been saying for awhile now on their website!!)

NOW, where can I get some good RUGALLAH ?!?!?
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Re:Rocky Mountain Highs and Big Skies 2009 Part 6 updated 8/21 2009/08/24 15:35:48 (permalink)
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wanderingjew
You know what I'm talking about.
It may take days, weeks,  months, or in this case years, but ultimately, if I make a statement (and I only do if I know and am confident of the facts) I'm almost always right


Once again, as a public service to the newbies around here, I will use the wanderingjew-to-English translator that was gifted to me last Purim.

"You know what I'm talking about." - I have already said this 2,500 times...to the point that everyone tunes me out when I speak.

"It may take days, weeks,  months, or in this case years, but ultimately, if I make a statement (and I only do if I know and am confident of the facts) I'm almost always right..."- After shoving my opinion down everyone's throats, ad nauseum, I will do whatever it takes to prove my point...whether anyone else cares or not.

"Besides, I wasn't in Southern California, the smoothie capital of the nation" - Love and kisses, wanderingjew.


I was directing this at Bill Voss for being a smart a**  (which he's very good at being) and which you're very good at being too!
 
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Re:Rocky Mountain Highs and Big Skies 2009 Part 6 updated 8/21 2009/08/24 15:40:44 (permalink)
Glad you took it in the spirit it was intended! 
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Re:Rocky Mountain Highs and Big Skies 2009 Part 6 updated 8/21 2009/08/24 15:42:42 (permalink)
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wanderingjew
Well, all I saw was a vast sea of mediocrity
 
In that case, you definitely missed THIS great charbroiled burger at THE COUNTER !!

The Counter, El Segundo, (about 3 miles from LAX and the ocean)
I wish I could bite into one of those right now! 


Yes, I know I mentioned I didn't go to the counter because they have one in Hartford CT which I can go to anytime. Either way, it looks about as good as (and I hope it tastes as good as) the burger I get here in Rhode Island at Ward's Publyck House.


You two crazy kids should just give in, get a registry somewhere, and make it legal already! 
 
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Re:Rocky Mountain Highs and Big Skies 2009 Part 6 updated 8/21 2009/08/24 15:45:15 (permalink)
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wanderingjew
Well, all I saw was a vast sea of mediocrity
 
In that case, you definitely missed THIS great charbroiled burger at THE COUNTER !!

The Counter, El Segundo, (about 3 miles from LAX and the ocean)
I wish I could bite into one of those right now! 


Yes, I know I mentioned I didn't go to the counter because they have one in Hartford CT which I can go to anytime. Either way, it looks about as good as (and I hope it tastes as good as) the burger I get here in Rhode Island at Ward's Publyck House.


You two crazy kids should just give in, get a registry somewhere, and make it legal already! 
 


Nancy, you too???
sorry, Travelin Man already has first dibs!
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Re:Rocky Mountain Highs and Big Skies 2009 Part 6 updated 8/21 2009/08/24 16:03:28 (permalink)
Come on guys... The discussion is bad enough, but quit copying the thing over and over...
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Re:Rocky Mountain Highs and Big Skies 2009 Part 6 updated 8/21 2009/08/24 16:06:14 (permalink)
mayor al

Ellen I understand your thoughts on photos. However please let me ask politely that you edit your photos to improve the resolution and sharpness. The burger photo above is a good example.


Al, I am not sure, but it looks like the burger photo may have been taken with on a macro setting. I am currently putting together some pictures for an intended post on pizza, and I have seen some of this with the photos that I have taken.  If I am not mistaken, the macro setting is intended for close-up shots of very minute detail - thereby leaving the background of the photo with the out-of-focus look.



Sometimes, I think these photos look cool...other times, not so much.  If that is the setting used with the above referenced photo, it is hard to see - as it is hard to define what the "macro" image is supposed to be - but, it looks (to me) like the very center of the photo IS in focus.  Now, perhaps a cropping could alleviate some of the "background noise?"  But, I also know that super-close up shots of food are not always your favorite, either.  As such, feel free to rip away at the quality of my pizza image!!!
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Re:Rocky Mountain Highs and Big Skies 2009 Part 6 updated 8/21 2009/08/24 16:58:20 (permalink)
My fault!

Or the fault of not realizing that the camera was focusing on the rings and not getting the whole picture.

I've got to figure out the camera because on the small setting I could sell the pictures for wall posters.

Now stop blaming Ellen!  She's innocent!
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Re:Rocky Mountain Highs and Big Skies 2009 Part 6 updated 8/21 2009/08/24 17:37:14 (permalink)
My two cents: my personal pet peeve is the posting of totally out-of-focus shots.  That said, I find all three pictures under discussion here acceptable.

Ellen's Counter burger photo: I like extreme food closeups.  I would crop out the left and a little off the top.  Also, food doesn't look as good with a bite taken out.  I would prefer that shot done with the burger cut open, not bitten open.  It's slightly blurry not terribly so.  I'd have no problem posting it in a review.

The photo of Ellen with the burger and O-rings: This one uses deep focus.  Everything from the onion rings to the street is in focus.  I don't like the composition, with the o-rings looming large in the foreground, but for us amateurs I think it's acceptable as a snapshot.

Travelin Man's pizza: This was taken in closeup mode, so there's an extremely narrow depth of field.  Everything closer or farther than a thin plane (around the third ring of pan holes) is out of focus.  I find that works best when the whole food item is about the same distance from the lens (and you make sure the autofocus is focusing on the food item and not something else in the frame).  So if you shoot a hot dog from one end, only part of the dog is in focus.  You'd have to shoot the dog from the "50 yard line," either from the side, or above, for the whole thing to focus.  That said, I think the shot works well enough
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Re:Rocky Mountain Highs and Big Skies 2009 Part 6 updated 8/21 2009/08/24 17:56:10 (permalink)
Well as it seems that  WJ's  trip report has gotten off track with discussion  on  quality of pictures of food, I thought this would be a great time for me to chime in  on  food photos  that  I do not like at all, no matter how good the report and pictures might be.

I cannot stand  photos  of  food with bites taken out of them,  photos of  plates of half eaten food, and photos of the dirty plate with the remains of some steak bone.  I really cannot understand why people think this makes for an appealing  food photo.
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Re:Rocky Mountain Highs and Big Skies 2009 Part 6 updated 8/21 2009/08/24 18:25:21 (permalink)
Greymo
I really cannot understand why people think this makes for an appealing  food photo.


I am not sure which quote is more appropriate for this thread...

One man's junk is another man's treasure.

OR

Man cannot live on buffalo chili and Basque food alone.

I guess different folks have different views on what is pretty...or photo-worthy.  As someone who has written his fair share of partially-done trip reports, I can tell you that it is not easy trying to come up with the right balance of food photos, scenery photos, people photos, and quality and descriptive writing.  Add to that, the idea of trying to figure out what OTHER people like to see....and, well, let's just say that it's a process.
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Re:Rocky Mountain Highs and Big Skies 2009 Part 6 updated 8/21 2009/08/24 18:35:21 (permalink)
Greymo 
I cannot stand  photos  of  food with bites taken out of them,   I really cannot understand why people think this makes for an appealing  food photo.

I like seeing the middle of a burger , cause I like trying to determine it's juicyness...
also , some places won't cook "pink"; I like seeing pink...
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Re:Rocky Mountain Highs and Big Skies 2009 Part 6 updated 8/21 2009/08/24 18:41:58 (permalink)
Well. one could use one's knife  and cut it in half............................!
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Re:Rocky Mountain Highs and Big Skies 2009 Part 6 updated 8/21 2009/08/24 20:09:41 (permalink)
OK to get us back on track... WJ, Is Basque food Kosher? Or do they mix n match outside the rules??
I think the Lamb Stew looked great!
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Re:Rocky Mountain Highs and Big Skies 2009 Part 6 updated 8/21 2009/08/24 20:12:58 (permalink)
Greymo 



I cannot stand  photos  of  food with bites taken out of them

 
Oh Dear Greymo,  If I had only knew that bothered you so much, I would have taken a chomp out of every food item I ever posted.

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Re:Rocky Mountain Highs and Big Skies 2009 Part 6 updated 8/21 2009/08/24 20:16:15 (permalink)
BTW WJ, I am enjoying your trip report
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