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Holly Moore

S.O.S. - The Good Old Days... Wed, 05/4/11 10:03 AM (permalink)
A retired marine wrote asking if I knew any place in the Philadelphia area that prepared creamed beef on toast the way he ate it 20 plus years ago in the Corps - made with ground beef instead of dried beef. 
 
Would be curious if anyone has come across this either in the Philadelphia/Delaware Valley area or elsewhere around the country.
 
Thanks
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    fatdoc

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    Re:S.O.S. - The Good Old Days... Wed, 05/4/11 12:29 PM (permalink)
    I cannot answer the question, but I remember that SOS more than 40 years ago while in The Corps.
    Fatdoc Known in the Marines as "Duty Donut"
     
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      Michael Hoffman

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      Re:S.O.S. - The Good Old Days... Wed, 05/4/11 12:37 PM (permalink)
      That was the SOS they served us in the Air Force. My favorite breakfast. Along with it they usually served what we called hand grenades because that's sort of what they looked like. They resembled large hushpuppies with knobs on them, but we poured syrup over them.
       
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        jimcfs1

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        Re:S.O.S. - The Good Old Days... Wed, 05/4/11 1:43 PM (permalink)
        My dad was a Navy vet from the Korean War era.  I can remember as a child my mom making two types of SOS.  First was the conventional dried beef in white cream sauce.  The second was ground beef based in a tomato sauce.  IIRC it was simple, browned ground beef, small can of tomato sauce, perhaps a little minced onion and seasoning.  She served it over toast like the traditional SOS.
         
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          Foodbme

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          Re:S.O.S. - The Good Old Days... Wed, 05/4/11 3:32 PM (permalink)
          Here's one recipe variation that kept the troops moving!
           Creamed Beef Style S.O.S.
          2 lbs pound ground beef
          1/2 cup white flour
          1/4 teaspoon ground black pepper
          3/4 teaspoon salt
          2 tablespoons lard or bacon grease
          2 tablespoons Worcestershire Sauce
          4-1/2 cups whole milk
          1 onion, diced, any variety will work
          1  jalapeño pepper, diced
          8 slices white bread, toasted
          DIRECTIONS
          Crumble ground beef in large pan.  Brown beef over medium high heat, until meat starts to brown, about 6 minutes.  Add diced onions and jalapeño peppers, and cook another 5 or 5 minutes, until beef is browned and diced onions are translucent.  Remove from heat.  Drain most of grease, but leave a small amount of grease in the pan for flavoring; about a tablespoon.  Add lard or bacon grease.  Return meat mixture to medium heat.
          Add flour to meat mixture and stir until flour is cooked, about 2 minutes.  With the mixture still in the pot, add milk and Worcestershire sauce.  The flour will naturally thicken the sauce.  Cook for about 10 minutes, stirring constantly, until ingredients are well blended and the sauce has thickened to about the consistency of runny pancake batter.
           
           
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            Re:S.O.S. - The Good Old Days... Wed, 05/4/11 3:56 PM (permalink)
            Now this brings back memories.  When  I  was  young  with four small mouths to feed,  Hanburger gravy on toast was a meal that we had  at least once  every  two weeks.  I always  served it with the  two  same  things...........................stewed tomatoes  (home-canned)  or tomato pudding  and   home canned yellow  or green beans.  I  have not made this in  years! 
             
            I shall have to have it some night  and see what the family thinks.  Foodbeme,  I  use a  lot more pepper than you do  and  have never  put  jalapeno peppers in it.  I  probably  had never  even heard of them.
             
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              Re:S.O.S. - The Good Old Days... Wed, 05/4/11 4:15 PM (permalink)
              Greymo


              Now this brings back memories.  When  I  was  young  with four small mouths to feed,  Hanburger gravy on toast was a meal that we had  at least once  every  two weeks.  I always  served it with the  two  same  things...........................stewed tomatoes  (home-canned)  or tomato pudding  and   home canned yellow  or green beans.  I  have not made this in  years! 

              I shall have to have it some night  and see what the family thinks.  Foodbeme,  I  use a  lot more pepper than you do  and  have never  put  jalapeno peppers in it.  I  probably  had never  even heard of them.

              Actually, I use a lot more pepper than it calls for. Who follows recipes anyway! The Jap gives it a little kick. I remove the seeds.
               
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                Re:S.O.S. - The Good Old Days... Wed, 05/4/11 6:23 PM (permalink)
                My father, a WW2 vet, made SOS quite often on weekends. It was always made with ground beef. Since he was in the 8th AAF, it makes sense that that was the way it was made in the Air Force. One of my favorite dishes growing up.
                 
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                  Michael Hoffman

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                  Re:S.O.S. - The Good Old Days... Wed, 05/4/11 6:26 PM (permalink)
                  I as in the 8th, too, but when I was in it was the 8th Air Force, not the 8th Army Air Force.
                   
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                    Re:S.O.S. - The Good Old Days... Wed, 05/4/11 8:00 PM (permalink)
                    My dad wouldn't allow S.O.S. in our house. He said after WWII, he never wanted it again. I had it firsat when I was in the service...and decided it was great. It's just hard to find in breakfast places. But when I see it, I order it!!!
                     
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                      Re:S.O.S. - The Good Old Days... Wed, 05/4/11 9:31 PM (permalink)
                      I always thought it was made with chipped beef... whatever that is.
                       
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                        Michael Hoffman

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                        Re:S.O.S. - The Good Old Days... Wed, 05/4/11 9:41 PM (permalink)
                        mar52


                        I always thought it was made with chipped beef... whatever that is.


                        It is, among civilians. Chipped beef is salted, thinly-sliced beef that can usually be found in either small glass jars or pouches in the canned meats shelves of supermarkets. Armour Star Sliced Dried Beef is the one most widely available. It's so available I happen to have a few pouches of it in my kitchen. And there's even a restaurant near me, a place called Tee Jay's, that offers it on their menu.
                        <message edited by Michael Hoffman on Wed, 05/4/11 9:42 PM>
                         
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                          Re:S.O.S. - The Good Old Days... Wed, 05/4/11 9:47 PM (permalink)
                          mar52


                          I always thought it was made with chipped beef... whatever that is.

                          It was, .. when on the front lines refrigeration was non-existent.  Dried Beef (chipped or not) was the only way to get meat to the troops.   ... AKA, jerky ....
                           
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                            mar52

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                            Re:S.O.S. - The Good Old Days... Wed, 05/4/11 10:16 PM (permalink)
                            I see.  Thank you. 
                             
                            Never had it any way, chipped, dried or ground.
                             
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                              Re:S.O.S. - The Good Old Days... Wed, 05/4/11 11:10 PM (permalink)
                              mar52


                              I see.  Thank you. 

                              Never had it any way, chipped, dried or ground.

                              You mean to say that you never served in the military?
                               
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                                Re:S.O.S. - The Good Old Days... Wed, 05/4/11 11:41 PM (permalink)
                                Just missed it although I grew up a block over from Military.
                                 
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                                  Michael Hoffman

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                                  Re:S.O.S. - The Good Old Days... Wed, 05/4/11 11:43 PM (permalink)
                                  I'm almost afraid to ask.
                                   
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                                    mar52

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                                    Re:S.O.S. - The Good Old Days... Wed, 05/4/11 11:58 PM (permalink)
                                    Military Avenue.  
                                     
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                                      Michael Hoffman

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                                      Re:S.O.S. - The Good Old Days... Thu, 05/5/11 12:01 AM (permalink)

                                       
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                                        Re:S.O.S. - The Good Old Days... Thu, 05/5/11 3:12 AM (permalink)
                                        mar52


                                        Military Avenue.  

                                         
                                        So after being on Military Avenue you went to Veteran Avenue?
                                         
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                                          Re:S.O.S. - The Good Old Days... Thu, 05/5/11 3:15 AM (permalink)
                                          EdSails

                                          mar52

                                          Military Avenue.  

                                          So after being on Military Avenue you went to Veteran Avenue?

                                          Pensacola FL has a Navy Blvd going to the Pensacola NAS.
                                           
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                                            Re:S.O.S. - The Good Old Days... Thu, 05/5/11 6:05 AM (permalink)
                                            mar52


                                            I see.  Thank you. 

                                            Never had it any way, chipped, dried or ground.

                                             
                                            Going to have to fix that, Mar. It's really easy to make, Lots of stores have this:
                                             

                                            Some mushroom soup and you're in the right direction. 
                                            I haVe some in the jar now. Tell me you'll come down to Mission Viejo for brunch some time and I promise to brew you up a batch. 
                                             
                                             
                                             
                                             
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                                              MiamiDon

                                              Re:S.O.S. - The Good Old Days... Thu, 05/5/11 8:36 AM (permalink)
                                               
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                                                Birdhunter

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                                                Re:S.O.S. - The Good Old Days... Thu, 05/5/11 8:56 AM (permalink)
                                                I have a old military cook book that I found at my Mother's. I won't be home until the 11th.
                                                It has all recipes, but in large qualities.
                                                I think each branch of the service make there S.O.S. different.
                                                Write down what you want me to look up and I'll post the recipes later if I can find them.
                                                 
                                                Birdhunter from Wisconsin
                                                 
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                                                  pnwchef

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                                                  Re:S.O.S. - The Good Old Days... Thu, 05/5/11 8:58 AM (permalink)
                                                  EdSails


                                                  mar52


                                                  Military Avenue.  


                                                  So after being on Military Avenue you went to Veteran Avenue?

                                                  Ed, I think she's just "over the hill" from Veteran's Ave
                                                   
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                                                    Re:S.O.S. - The Good Old Days... Thu, 05/5/11 9:31 AM (permalink)
                                                    PNWCHEF


                                                    EdSails


                                                    mar52


                                                    Military Avenue.  


                                                    So after being on Military Avenue you went to Veteran Avenue?

                                                    Ed, I think she's just "over the hill" from Veteran's Ave

                                                     
                                                    .... hahah .... Military Home Way ...??...
                                                     
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                                                      Michael Hoffman

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                                                      Re:S.O.S. - The Good Old Days... Thu, 05/5/11 10:50 AM (permalink)
                                                      Ed Sails,
                                                       
                                                      Mushroom soup? Try a simple white sauce with some dry Coleman mustard, Worchestershire sauce and freshly ground black pepper. And be sure to rinse the meat in a colander to get rid of most of the salt before adding it to the sauce.
                                                       
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                                                        Re:S.O.S. - The Good Old Days... Thu, 05/5/11 3:14 PM (permalink)
                                                        Michael Hoffman


                                                        Ed Sails,

                                                        Mushroom soup? Try a simple white sauce with some dry Coleman mustard, Worchestershire sauce and freshly ground black pepper. And be sure to rinse the meat in a colander to get rid of most of the salt before adding it to the sauce.

                                                         
                                                        You're probably right Michael. I seem to recall something from a can but that was many years ago and you know how memories can get confused sometimes. 
                                                         
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                                                          Michael Hoffman

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                                                          Re:S.O.S. - The Good Old Days... Thu, 05/5/11 3:15 PM (permalink)
                                                          Never having had it happen I couldn't possibly know how memories get confused.
                                                           
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                                                            Re:S.O.S. - The Good Old Days... Thu, 05/5/11 4:52 PM (permalink)
                                                            Michael Hoffman
                                                             
                                                            And be sure to rinse the meat in a colander to get rid of most of the salt before adding it to the sauce.

                                                            Rinse the meat in a colander????????????????????Are you Crazy??????????
                                                            All the meat flavor goes right down the drain leaving tasteless crumbles of cow muscle!!!
                                                            I line a colander with paper towel and let the towel absorb the grease and some of the salt will go with it, BUT NEVER rinse the meat!!
                                                             
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