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2004/10/26 17:04:29 (permalink)

Smith & Wollensky

Now, I know this is not a "roadfood" place, and lord help me I want to be politically correct according to the roadfoode by-laws, BUT I really would like y'all's opinion.

Husband has to select a place to have his 30th anniversary dinner in honor of his years with his employer. I have heard good things about this place, but seeing as it has other locations, I thought some of you could give me your valuable insight.

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    Spudnut
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    RE: Smith & Wollensky 2004/10/26 17:18:36 (permalink)
    Which one are you planning on going to? I assume it's in Houston?

    I believe that I posted about this before. In New York, S&W was once -- and perhaps still is -- considered by many to be among the best steakhouses in the city. I used to think so.

    Last winter, however, my wife and I went there for dinner on a Saturday night. I am not exaggerating when I say that, on a dollar-versus-quality basis, it was one of the worst meals we ever had. The steak was almost inedible. The vegetables were ice cold in the middle even after being sent back. And the baked potato was hard and rotten. Just terrible. This went well beyond "a bad night" that any restaurant can have.

    Now, others will disagree, I'm sure. And I can't speak to S&W in Houston or nationwide; the last time I ate in the DC restaurant, I enjoyed it very much. But, my most recent experience was incredibly disappointing. It gave "bad" a bad name.
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    RE: Smith & Wollensky 2004/10/26 17:18:37 (permalink)
    S & W in NYC is one of the top steakhouses that also has numerous locations outside the City. I can't imagine why the meat would be of any less quality in your neck of the woods, but you never know. That said, I would say go for it.

    Bummer, Spudnut, but I haven't been there in a couple of years.
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    RE: Smith & Wollensky 2004/10/26 17:44:14 (permalink)
    If we're talking TX, I can't help.

    If we're talking NYC - I can suggest a few others which I like as much, if not more than S&W.

    Let me know!
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    RE: Smith & Wollensky 2004/10/26 17:46:04 (permalink)
    We are talking Houston.

    He is also considering Fogo de chao

    http://www.fogodechao.com/flash_index.php
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    RE: Smith & Wollensky 2004/10/26 18:07:18 (permalink)
    I don't know whether it's still there, but when I lived in Houston in the late 70's, I always liked Brenner's steakhouse, out on Katy Freeway.
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    RE: Smith & Wollensky 2004/10/26 18:38:27 (permalink)
    The only one I've been to is the one in Columbus. It was OK. There are a few better ones here, including Morton's Ruth's Chris, Mitchell's, and The Top.
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    RE: Smith & Wollensky 2004/10/26 18:42:14 (permalink)
    Lone Star,
    Will there be any kind of "program" for the Honoree's? Or is it more of a dinner for a small group with conversation being the only communication (as opposed to a speech and presentation?) That could have an impact on the choice of locations?
    With all other things being even and it being a gathering of employees etc I would probably opt for the Brazilian place.
    On the other hand--The formal steak house atmosphere would be a lot more formal...and that may be a positive also?????
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    RE: Smith & Wollensky 2004/10/26 19:03:04 (permalink)
    If you have never been to a churrascaria, they are a great experience and usually have excellent food. Be sure to try a caipirinha.
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    RE: Smith & Wollensky 2004/10/26 19:14:00 (permalink)
    The Sundancer has been to an authenic churra in Buenos Aires and Montvideo and it was wonderful. I am not sure why beef is so great in this part of the world. Perhaps it is because they are not grain fed but finally fed on blue stem grass. The beef is wonderful and the red wine is super.

    Paul E. Smith
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    RE: Smith & Wollensky 2004/10/26 19:37:33 (permalink)
    Took my parents to the Smith & Wollensky in Las Vegas and reserved the table in the kitchen. It was one of the best meals and best times we every had together.
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    RE: Smith & Wollensky 2004/10/26 20:13:22 (permalink)
    Lone Star,
    If ya REALLY want to do it right... wait until you can make the roadtrip and visit Doe's Eat Place on Nelson Street in Greenville, Mississippi.
    Staking It Out, Ort. Carlton in Amazing Athens, Georgia.
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    RE: Smith & Wollensky 2004/10/26 20:36:27 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by Sundancer7

    The Sundancer has been to an authenic churra in Buenos Aires and Montvideo and it was wonderful. I am not sure why beef is so great in this part of the world. Perhaps it is because they are not grain fed but finally fed on blue stem grass. The beef is wonderful and the red wine is super.

    Paul E. Smith
    Knoxville, TN


    Sundancer: Having lived in Argentina, I can tell you that the cattle is allowed to graze freely in the amazing pampas. Then, when it comes time to kill them, they do it in the fields by knocking them in the head before they send the animals to the slaughterhouse. It is said that when the animals smell blood, their muscles tighten up, thereby giving a lesser quality meat. Or so says the gaucho. The best meat I ever tasted was in South America.
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    RE: Smith & Wollensky 2004/12/13 17:23:56 (permalink)
    Just ate at S&W's in NYC Saturday. i rate the steak on a scale of 10 an 7.5. I had the rib eye and it was a little more done than the medium rare I requested which in a steakhouse is rare. The great thing was (sarcasm here), my friends decided to get the cold seafood appetizer, they serve it according to people. they got it for 6, it was lobster, crabmeat and shrimp: Cost 198.00. How about that one, the apeetiser costs more than the main course.
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    RE: Smith & Wollensky 2004/12/15 02:28:25 (permalink)
    Just ate at S & W myself. Had a great meal. For something a little different, try the pork porterhouse. Unbelievable! Served w/ potato pancake, apple sauce, and an amazing glaze over the pork!
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    RE: Smith & Wollensky 2007/07/03 14:15:59 (permalink)
    S&W closed their Dallas store several months ago. Couldn't stand the local competition. The North Dallas Morton's closed several years ago and I can't for the life of me understand how Ruth's Chris keeps her Dallas doors open.
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    RE: Smith & Wollensky 2007/07/03 19:50:28 (permalink)
    Jim,

    I agree with you that chain steak houses are going to get trounced by Texas restauranteurs who know from steak.

    As for Ruth's, is it possible they are supported by the out-of-town convention crowd? Do Texas license plates make it easy to spot cars owned by Hertz, Avis, etc.? A survey of license plates in their parking lot should give you a clue as to why they survive.
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    RE: Smith & Wollensky 2007/07/06 06:31:36 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by David_NYC

    Jim,

    I agree with you that chain steak houses are going to get trounced by Texas restauranteurs who know from steak.

    As for Ruth's, is it possible they are supported by the out-of-town convention crowd? Do Texas license plates make it easy to spot cars owned by Hertz, Avis, etc.? A survey of license plates in their parking lot should give you a clue as to why they survive.


    They do have a following; as a guest, I've eaten three times at their Arlington, VA location and just once was I served a piece of meat that justified the price; therefore, I have never had cause to enter their Dallas lot. When I was paying the bill in D.C. there was no substitute for The Prime Rib on K. St., NW.

    Maybe they all have gift certificates from Sean Hannity!
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