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Twinwillow

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Smoked Salmon (Nova) and Sturgeon and bagels. Sun, 04/16/06 2:11 AM (permalink)
Thank goodness for "Deli-News" in far North Dallas.
Their smoked Sturgeon and Nova platters and bagels are the best outside of New York City.
Naturally, they are flown in fresh (the bagels as well) every Friday and the lines outside the door on Sunday mornings are well worth the wait.
I look forward to my Sturgeon platter and scooped out, toasted whole wheat
bagel every Sunday morning!
 
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    signman

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    RE: Smoked Salmon (Nova) and Sturgeon and bagels. Sun, 04/16/06 10:36 AM (permalink)
    Flown in from where?
     
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      Adjudicator

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      RE: Smoked Salmon (Nova) and Sturgeon and bagels. Sun, 04/16/06 10:42 AM (permalink)
      It has always amazed me how much trouble and $$$$ some people will go through just to eat.
       
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        Twinwillow

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        RE: Smoked Salmon (Nova) and Sturgeon and bagels. Sun, 04/16/06 10:57 AM (permalink)
        Sorry, flown in from NYC. Of course!
         
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          Twinwillow

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          RE: Smoked Salmon (Nova) and Sturgeon and bagels. Sun, 04/16/06 11:01 AM (permalink)
          With reference to $$$$ and trouble, I'm sure the great majority of folks who subscribe to "Roadfood" and this forum,
          have no problem with a small indulgence every so often.
           
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            The Travelin Man

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            RE: Smoked Salmon (Nova) and Sturgeon and bagels. Sun, 04/16/06 11:08 AM (permalink)
            Bagels being flown in sounds like a strange concept to me. Direct flights from NYC to Dallas run 2 1/2 hours, and if they are shipped as cargo, there will be a further delay -- basically, one would be eating day old bagels. I have always insisted that day old NY bagels are better than what I can regularly get here, but I don't know that in good conscience, anyone could SELL day old bagels as fresh.
             
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              Adjudicator

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              RE: Smoked Salmon (Nova) and Sturgeon and bagels. Sun, 04/16/06 11:57 AM (permalink)
              quote:
              Originally posted by twinwillow

              With reference to $$$$ and trouble, I'm sure the great majority of folks who subscribe to "Roadfood" and this forum,
              have no problem with a small indulgence every so often.


              So, there is no good food in Dallas?

               
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                mayor al

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                RE: Smoked Salmon (Nova) and Sturgeon and bagels. Sun, 04/16/06 1:09 PM (permalink)

                This one sounds more like Martha Stewart and Emeril's FINE LIVING than ROADFOOD. Foodies may indulge now and then, but would be more apt to visit NYC for the deli's than fly some bagels to Dallas to do the same.
                 
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                  signman

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                  RE: Smoked Salmon (Nova) and Sturgeon and bagels. Sun, 04/16/06 2:38 PM (permalink)
                  OK, just heard from family in Dallas who are familiar with Deli News. The bagels come in frozen or par boiled or something, from H&H Bagels, then are baked on site. There was a store here in Baltimore that did that too, and the finished product was pretty good.
                   
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                    chicagostyledog

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                    RE: Smoked Salmon (Nova) and Sturgeon and bagels. Sun, 04/16/06 5:02 PM (permalink)
                    I'm always on the hunt for the perfect bagel. When I lived in the northern suburbs of Chicago, great bagels were abundant. Here in southeastern Wisconsin, they're extinct. For the perfect bagel, one that's boiled, not baked, I head north to Benji's Deli in Milwaukee or south to Lincolnwood or Skokie, where the bagels are always hot & fresh. There's plenty of great lox in Wisconsin. Finding the perfect bagel near home is impossible.

                    CSD
                    Born in Chicago
                    Escaped to Wisconsin
                    Selling Vienna Beef hot dogs & Polish
                    Still searching for the perfect bagel
                     
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                      Sundancer7

                      RE: Smoked Salmon (Nova) and Sturgeon and bagels. Sun, 04/16/06 5:36 PM (permalink)
                      CSD, You are fortunate that you get some bagesl that are halfway decent. In Knoxville, we get the ones shipped in from WJSNG. They are rarely fresh and definately not new York fresh.

                      Paul E. Smith
                      knoxville, TN
                       
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                        marky

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                        RE: Smoked Salmon (Nova) and Sturgeon and bagels. Sun, 04/16/06 6:00 PM (permalink)
                        sundancer excuse my ignorance but what is wjsng?
                         
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                          Poverty Pete

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                          RE: Smoked Salmon (Nova) and Sturgeon and bagels. Sun, 04/16/06 6:13 PM (permalink)
                          I think it means Wall Journal Street No Good. I could be wrong.
                           
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                            Sundancer7

                            RE: Smoked Salmon (Nova) and Sturgeon and bagels. Sun, 04/16/06 6:17 PM (permalink)
                            quote:
                            Originally posted by marky

                            sundancer excuse my ignorance but what is wjsng?


                            WJSNG is a East Tennesse term for some place far off and not easily reached. West Jock Strap New Guinea.

                            Paul E. Smith
                            Knoxville, TN
                             
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                              Twinwillow

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                              RE: Smoked Salmon (Nova) and Sturgeon and bagels. Sun, 04/16/06 7:05 PM (permalink)
                              Re; my topic, YES the bagels are flown in par baked from H&H and, YES they are delicious and, YES, there are some good bagels in Dallas. Eisenstein bagels (chain) are also quite good.
                              Re: good food in Dallas? Not much! Yes, we have more restaurants per capita than any other city in the US. (Fact) But, most are chains. There are very few "mom & pop" places. Big thing here is BBQ and "over the top" places with prima donna chefs who spend more time in the front of the room than in the kitchen.
                              Hey, I was born and raised in NYC. I know good food when I eat it.
                               
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                                RE: Smoked Salmon (Nova) and Sturgeon and bagels. Sun, 04/16/06 7:49 PM (permalink)
                                Somehow to me a bagel always seemed like a diet doughnut.

                                Let me get this straight, you are flying in diet doughnuts and fish, putting the fish on top of the diet doughnuts and this is a treat?

                                It doesn't sound very good to me. I don't believe in flying fish or at least long distance flying fish.

                                I reckon the redneck version of this would be tuna salad on top of a split doughnut. Even that does not sound too appetizing to me.
                                 
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                                  xannie_01

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                                  RE: Smoked Salmon (Nova) and Sturgeon and bagels. Sun, 04/16/06 7:54 PM (permalink)
                                  i had a 65 seat cafe in the 90's in plano called guiltfree cafe..it was the hardest thing i ever did. small places cannot exist in Dallas. the next business venture i'l go into is selling used restaurant equipment to fools like me.
                                   
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                                    signman

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                                    RE: Smoked Salmon (Nova) and Sturgeon and bagels. Sun, 04/16/06 8:11 PM (permalink)
                                    Hey Twinwillow. Get yourself out to Harry Hines Blvd, just north of Northwest Highway where you will find one of the best cafes, The Mecca. Or go a little farther north and turn right on Royal for Mama's Daughter's Diner. Go for the chicken fried steak, any of the sides, and giant yeast rolls. Nothing like that in NY.
                                     
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                                      Twinwillow

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                                      RE: Smoked Salmon (Nova) and Sturgeon and bagels. Sun, 04/16/06 8:12 PM (permalink)
                                      Dear Greyghost.
                                      You are obviously not Jewish and very obviously not from NYC. Jewish or otherwise. If you were, or even spent any time in Europe, you would appreciate
                                      the goodness of fine cold smoked fish on whatever breads were the local specialty.
                                      I had the most fantastic local fresh smoked Swordfish and Tuna on itialian bread in Southern Italy last year. And, it was for BREAKFAST!
                                      As far as smoked fish on bagels in NYC is concerned, At first it was a "Jewish thing" now, everyone in NYC knows the pleasure of "Lox n' bagels with cream cheese!
                                      There is a saying in NYC. "You don't have to be Jewish to eat Levy's".
                                      New Yorkers know what that means.
                                       
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                                        signman

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                                        RE: Smoked Salmon (Nova) and Sturgeon and bagels. Sun, 04/16/06 8:15 PM (permalink)
                                        Greyghost, you just brought back some college days memories from around 1970. I had some fraternity brothers from New Orleans, who had never been exposed to Lox & Bagels. I don't remember whether they enjoyed it or not, but they called it "fish and doughnuts".
                                         
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                                          Twinwillow

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                                          RE: Smoked Salmon (Nova) and Sturgeon and bagels. Sun, 04/16/06 8:16 PM (permalink)
                                          quote:
                                          Originally posted by signman

                                          Hey Twinwillow. Get yourself out to Harry Hines Blvd, just north of Northwest Highway where you will find one of the best cafes, The Mecca. Or go a little farther north and turn right on Royal for Mama's Daughter's Diner. Go for the chicken fried steak, any of the sides, and giant yeast rolls. Nothing like that in NY.
                                          Hey! I eat at Mama Daughters Diner about once a week. I never have to wait on the endless line because I sit at the counter.
                                          Their food is Great! Don't get me wrong, I wasn't talking about those kind of places in Dallas. It's just that there isn't enough places like Mama Daughters Diner in Dallas.
                                           
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                                            signman

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                                            RE: Smoked Salmon (Nova) and Sturgeon and bagels. Sun, 04/16/06 8:25 PM (permalink)
                                            Every time I leave Dallas, I swear I have cream gravy running thru my veins. We'll have to hook up for a meal next time I'm out that way.
                                             
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                                              Twinwillow

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                                              RE: Smoked Salmon (Nova) and Sturgeon and bagels. Sun, 04/16/06 8:34 PM (permalink)
                                              quote:
                                              Originally posted by signman

                                              Every time I leave Dallas, I swear I have cream gravy running thru my veins. We'll have to hook up for a meal next time I'm out that way.

                                              Just write me. I'll meet you at MDD and lunch will be my treat!
                                              This old Jewish ex-New Yorker knows good good chicken fried steak, cream gravy and collards just as good as any local "redneck". I know because, I MARRIED ONE! From Garland!!!
                                               
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                                                The Travelin Man

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                                                RE: Smoked Salmon (Nova) and Sturgeon and bagels. Sun, 04/16/06 9:06 PM (permalink)
                                                quote:
                                                Originally posted by twinwillow

                                                You are obviously not Jewish and very obviously not from NYC.


                                                You may not be either, if you are checking out bagel joints during Pesach!
                                                 
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                                                  Twinwillow

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                                                  RE: Smoked Salmon (Nova) and Sturgeon and bagels. Sun, 04/16/06 9:10 PM (permalink)
                                                  quote:
                                                  Originally posted by stevekoe

                                                  quote:
                                                  Originally posted by twinwillow

                                                  You are obviously not Jewish and very obviously not from NYC.


                                                  You may not be either, if you are checking out bagel joints during Pesach!

                                                  I am but, I am very, very "Reform"
                                                   
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                                                    UncleVic

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                                                    RE: Smoked Salmon (Nova) and Sturgeon and bagels. Sun, 04/16/06 11:03 PM (permalink)
                                                    It's been 15 years since I've had a bagel from NYC.. Ahh the memories... It has to be the water...
                                                     
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                                                      Twinwillow

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                                                      RE: Smoked Salmon (Nova) and Sturgeon and bagels. Sun, 04/16/06 11:17 PM (permalink)
                                                      quote:
                                                      Originally posted by UncleVic

                                                      It's been 15 years since I've had a bagel from NYC.. Ahh the memories... It has to be the water...


                                                      There used to be a "deli" here in Dallas that said they boiled their bagels (an important step in making bagels) in water brought from NYC. Well, they were terrible bagels. The water may have come from NYC but they obviously couldn't get the rest of the formula down.
                                                      As I said in a previous post, the par baked bagels from H&H are really good.
                                                      I know you can order from them. (H&H)
                                                       
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                                                        Ciaoman

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                                                        RE: Smoked Salmon (Nova) and Sturgeon and bagels. Mon, 05/8/06 3:51 PM (permalink)
                                                        Mmmmmm, bagels! A great bagel shop in NY or NJ sells them warm just from the oven (boiled first, then baked). Crispy on the outside and chewy inside. I wish that they were available everywhere...it would do much to raise the bread consciousness of many folks. With a thick schmear of cream cheese (not a thin layer) plus nova salmon, tomato and red onion, THAT is a sandwich!
                                                         
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                                                          Michael Hoffman

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                                                          RE: Smoked Salmon (Nova) and Sturgeon and bagels. Mon, 05/8/06 4:24 PM (permalink)
                                                          I get absolutely great bagels in Columbus, Ohio. They are as good as any from New York, and almost as good as the ones from Olmer's or Lender's (not the frozen ones, the original Lender's) in New Haven and Orange.
                                                           
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                                                            roossy90

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                                                            RE: Smoked Salmon (Nova) and Sturgeon and bagels. Tue, 05/9/06 3:24 AM (permalink)
                                                            quote:
                                                            Originally posted by Parses6

                                                            MMM Lender's frozen bagels are the best...some Philly cream cheese and and butter and jelly and that is breakfast yum

                                                            You forgot one special ingredient. A perfectly mixed topping of 50/50 Hunts and DelMonte Ketchup.
                                                             
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