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roossy90

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Something's in your Food. Thu, 11/22/07 3:18 AM (permalink)
I origially had this title something else, but I found a different story that I thought was interesting for us that do eat at FFR.

I guess there is something to hide.

http://www.thatsfit.com/2007/03/05/three-u-s-fast-food-chains-to-take-nutrition-info-off-websites/

I should add this link that I put on another thread.
They go hand in hand.
Just what is in that fast food you eat?
Ugh...
http://www.newstarget.com/022194.html
 
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    John A

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    RE: Something's in your Food. Thu, 11/22/07 7:58 AM (permalink)
    I'm 5'11", weigh 180 pounds, and have very low cholesterol. I eat whatever I want, the hell with nutritional content and calories.
     
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      Adjudicator

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      RE: Something's in your Food. Thu, 11/22/07 9:01 AM (permalink)
      John: I think roosy's post was meant for the other 99% of the population.
       
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        Tony Bad

        RE: Something's in your Food. Thu, 11/22/07 9:19 AM (permalink)
        This isn't about hiding anything...it is about making businesses comply with silly rules. The rules stated that if the nutritional data was available ANYWHERE, it also had to be placed on their menus. In the original article the reasons these companies elected to pull this info was clearly spelled out...
        Restaurants objected, saying the rule would clutter menu boards with health data already available elsewhere and shut down their websites prior to the March 1 deadline.

        Wendy's International Inc. pulled all information on calories from posters and fliers at its New York eateries. Quiznos and White Castle deactivated the pages on their website that offered all types of nutritional information.

        "We fully support the intent of this regulation," Wendy's said in a statement on its website. "However, since most of our food is made-to-order, there isn't enough room on our existing menu boards to comply with the regulation."


        All of these places already have signs or brochures available that list nutritional content and calories, but the good mayor of NY wanted it on the menu signs. I can see where this would be quite impractical. I think the mayor's next demand is that each restaurant assign an employee to read and explain these nutritional facts to each customer when they come in. While the intent of the rule may be good, the old adage..."you can lead a horse to salad, but he'll probably prefer a double cheeseburger" was never more correct. The information has always been available for those who seek it and making restaurants jump through silly hoops isn't going to make those who don't care read it.

        (who first uttered that old adage anyway?)
         
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          roossy90

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          RE: Something's in your Food. Thu, 11/22/07 3:53 PM (permalink)
          quote:
          Originally posted by John A

          I'm 5'11", weigh 180 pounds, and have very low cholesterol. I eat whatever I want, the hell with nutritional content and calories.


          I am so jealous.....
           
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            Quartz

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            RE: Something's in your Food. Thu, 11/22/07 5:50 PM (permalink)
            quote:
            Originally posted by John A

            I'm 5'11", weigh 180 pounds, and have very low cholesterol. I eat whatever I want, the hell with nutritional content and calories.


            Preach it John!
             
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              John A

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              RE: Something's in your Food. Fri, 11/23/07 7:36 AM (permalink)
              My idea of a healthy, well balanced meal; Biscuits & sausage gravy with a side of home fries and more gravy.




               
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                roossy90

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                RE: Something's in your Food. Fri, 11/23/07 6:51 PM (permalink)
                Yeah John,LOOKS GREAT, but: Its NOT fast food.....
                 
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                  angeltearsmc

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                  RE: Something's in your Food. Fri, 11/23/07 8:03 PM (permalink)
                  Over the years I've learned to estimate the calories in anything... yeah, it sucks that they're making their nutrition info harder to get, but as long as you make wise choices, it's not all that big a deal. Choosing grilled over fried, eating things like french fries and ice cream as a treat rather than an every-fast-food meal thing, opting for salads or small sandwiches instead of humongous burgers, learning which condiments are healthy and which are splurges, etc. Be educated about what you're putting in your body, and you'll be fine! The problem is that most people want to eat what they're craving, or what they've always eaten, instead of making choices that are beneficial to their health. You can eat anything as long as it's in moderation!

                  By the way, I'm 5'5" and slender (105), and I eat healthy most of the time, but I do eat fast food occasionally, and I know what to choose when I'm there... it has to be worth the splurge. (P.S. I think it's easier for men to say "To hell with nutrition and calories!"... they don't gain weight like we ladies do. LOL)
                   
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                    Ev1L

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                    RE: Something's in your Food. Sat, 11/24/07 12:12 AM (permalink)
                    The only thing missing from that pic John is I would have asked for each piece of potato to be individually bacon wrapped
                     
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                      John A

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                      RE: Something's in your Food. Sat, 11/24/07 7:07 AM (permalink)
                      quote:
                      Originally posted by Ev1L

                      The only thing missing from that pic John is I would have asked for each piece of potato to be individually bacon wrapped


                      Now that's a great idea

                      angeltearsmc, I know a lot of guys that tell you they wear a size 34 belt but forget about the spare tire hanging over it.
                       
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                        David_NYC

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                        RE: Something's in your Food. Mon, 11/26/07 2:08 PM (permalink)
                        The New York City regulation was the subject of a lawsuit by the New York State Restaurant Association, and the city lost. However, the city is going to try again with a proposed new regulation, with a hearing scheduled for tomorrow, November 27th:
                        http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/86635.php
                         
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                          David_NYC

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                          RE: Something's in your Food. Mon, 11/26/07 2:14 PM (permalink)
                          Funny how the NYC Health Department is not stepping up to the plate, buying samples of all food served at all NYC restaurants, having the food analyzed at their expense. and posting calorie counts on websites exclusively paid for by the NYC Health Department. Let them see how easy it is for what they want the restaurant chains to do.
                           
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                            Tedbear

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                            RE: Something's in your Food. Thu, 11/29/07 6:23 PM (permalink)
                            quote:
                            Originally posted by David_NYC

                            Funny how the NYC Health Department is not stepping up to the plate, buying samples of all food served at all NYC restaurants, having the food analyzed at their expense. and posting calorie counts on websites exclusively paid for by the NYC Health Department. Let them see how easy it is for what they want the restaurant chains to do.


                            Something tells me that a large proportion of the local residents might be a bit annoyed at this expense, which would only wind up being added to their tax bills. Or, would you like to pay a higher sales tax and/or NYC income tax?
                             
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                              David_NYC

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                              RE: Something's in your Food. Fri, 11/30/07 6:11 AM (permalink)
                              Just like the restaurants might be a bit annoyed by the expense to change their signage, which would only wind up being added to the prices they charge their customers for food.

                              I was/am being facetious, of course. The original city regulation had the effect of pissing off officials of chain restaurants all across the country. Look at this notice on the Wendy's site:
                              http://www.wendys.com/nyc.jsp
                              Note the snide comment on that page:
                              "We regret this inconvenience. If you have questions about this regulation, please contact the New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene and refer to Health Code Section 81.50."

                              If you read the requirements of the original NYC regulation, you had to wonder where they came up with the number of restaurants that would fall under this rule, etc. Also, the fact that they counted the number of restuarants in the entire country, not just NY City. Whoever put together that ruling also were not smart, as a Federal judge found the regulation ran afoul of a federal law. This is something the drafters of the regulation should have known beforehand. So, I have no confidence in the people who wrote and sponsored that regulation. Now, enough local restaurant owners give enough political contributions and have enough political clout to defeat a rule that would require all restaurants to post calorie counts for everything they sell. Hence, my snide comment about having the Department of Health research and publicize the information. So, if you walk into a big chain restaurant and see the calorie count of the burger you are going to buy, you might decide to give it a miss and walk across the street to the Greek coffee shop that gets its food from Restaurant Depot. But who says the burger you are going to get there is "healthier"? Something seems inherently unfair about the regulation.

                              Chain restaurants are not the only ones who cause obesity. Mom-and-pop ones also do. I remember a talk given by the executive chef of the Weis supermarkets chain at a fair in York, PA once. He pointed out that the reason food tastes so good in restaurants is because it often is high in fat and calories. He handed out two recipes for the same fish entree, one cribbed from a restaurant and one designed to be used by a consumer purchasing ingredients from Weis Markets. There was a huge difference in calorie count between the two recipes.

                              Newsday ran a story about the hearing they held the other day on Round 2 of the menu law (Round 1 was struck down by the federal court):
                              http://www.newsday.com/news/local/newyork/ny-nycals28vr5479020nov28,0,940702.story

                              Remember, this is the same exact NYC Health Department that did not find evidence of rodents in a KFC/Taco Bell a few days before a videographer working for NBC did.





                               
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                                wanderingjew

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                                RE: Something's in your Food. Mon, 12/17/07 10:00 AM (permalink)
                                quote:
                                Originally posted by angeltearsmc

                                (P.S. I think it's easier for men to say "To hell with nutrition and calories!"... they don't gain weight like we ladies do. LOL)


                                Baloney,

                                We may lose it faster, but we gain it just as fast!
                                Just go ask my fat friends and their thin wives!
                                 
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                                  Davydd

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                                  RE: Something's in your Food. Mon, 12/17/07 12:07 PM (permalink)
                                  A calorie is a calorie. You can eat anything in moderation. Our sense of portion has been distorted by the fast food industry and sports bars. We forget 50 years ago a common soft drink was only 7 oz. and now can be had super sized in 28 oz. and more. A Champps Sports Bar menu selection typically has portions 4X recommended. We have super sized. I can still remember my sister always wanting two White Castle hamburgers and my dad always commenting that it was too much. My college roommate was skinny as a rail yet ate the same things I ate and claimed it was his metabolism. So I watched him. He always left food on his plate. He never finished a sandwich. He rarely touched his fries. If it was a home meal he mostly just pushed it around on his plate. You would not need nutritional information or have to count calories at all if you understood portion control. Our sense of portion is out of whack to recommended calories.
                                   
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