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ddog27

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Somethings wrong here....... Wed, 03/14/07 4:17 PM (permalink)
There is something that has been bothering me. I stopped by Chili’s a few nights ago to get some take out for my family. As I stood there waiting for my order, I noticed that the waiters and waitresses were bringing out plate after plate of ribs. Now in my opinion Chili’s ribs are not that good. So what has been bothering me is why would people go to Chili’s for ribs and people who have a BBQ joint where they serve real low and slow cooked BBQ ribs, struggle to find customers? Something about that seems so wrong. What do you think?
 
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    roossy90

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    RE: Somethings wrong here....... Wed, 03/14/07 7:21 PM (permalink)
    I think this belongs in the FFR section. Thats what I think.
     
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      Adjudicator

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      RE: Somethings wrong here....... Wed, 03/14/07 7:47 PM (permalink)
      quote:
      Originally posted by roossy90

      I think this belongs in the FFR section. Thats what I think.


      OMG!!!!! You have crossed over & joined the hoatee-toatee's. Shame on U!!!
       
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        dholk

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        RE: Somethings wrong here....... Wed, 03/14/07 8:05 PM (permalink)
        ddog,

        Honestly, I am thinking pot/kettle/black :)

        I've been to Chili's a few times and was disappointed with everything I've ordered (and my expectations weren't all that high). I'm not a die hard "chains are the devil" zealot, but I've got a hunch you've got some mom-and-pop/independent local restaurants that can take care of your take-out needs quite a bit better. Actually, I'd bet that there are some chains around are that could do a better job than Chili's.

        Dave
         
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          roossy90

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          RE: Somethings wrong here....... Wed, 03/14/07 8:22 PM (permalink)
          quote:
          Originally posted by Adjudicator

          quote:
          Originally posted by roossy90

          I think this belongs in the FFR section. Thats what I think.


          OMG!!!!! You have crossed over & joined the hoatee-toatee's. Shame on U!!!

          Hey.. hey.......hey now....(sticking tongue out at you)
           
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            Raine

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            RE: Somethings wrong here....... Wed, 03/14/07 8:32 PM (permalink)
            Because they don't know any better/different. And they get to drink beer/mixed drinks.

            We get customers, who think we can cook their chicken while they wait, don't believe we cook the bbq 14 hours.
             
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              desertdog

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              RE: Somethings wrong here....... Wed, 03/14/07 8:33 PM (permalink)

              It's a one catch phrase explanation:

              I want my baby back baby back baby back....

              Most folks are sucked in by a catchy tune and glistening food presented by overly cute, smiling actor wannabees.

               
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                Theedge

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                RE: Somethings wrong here....... Wed, 03/14/07 8:40 PM (permalink)
                We had people at work skip our potluck this month because they “didn’t like” anything that was made. Even though they admitted they hadn’t ever tried any of it. I could see maybe being leery of my reuben soup, but we had reuben sandwiches, potato salad and chips as well. There are just a ton of people out there that never leave their comfort zone. Most good bbq joints are little greasy dives where construction workers and highway patrolmen eat lunch. A good portion the public simply look for the newest looking building with the fanciest neon sign.
                 
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                  dholk

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                  RE: Somethings wrong here....... Wed, 03/14/07 8:52 PM (permalink)
                  Theedge,

                  I hear ya. My dad and I call it "Chrome plated plastic". Basically new and shiny with no substance, you see it everywhere, not just restaurants.

                  Dave
                   
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                    mayor al

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                    RE: Somethings wrong here....... Wed, 03/14/07 10:50 PM (permalink)

                    I think a lot of money is spent on advertising..especially TV commercials that make Chili's and other places like that look like very 'safe' and desireable places to eat...and budget minded too. People go where the ads say they will be happy. In todays rush around time is valuable world, a lot of folks don't want to take the time to investigate an unsure thing. Tumbleweed..a local chain in this area is introducing some new Burger combinations in their TV Ads...and offering a 2-fer as well. Without the TV coverage the response would be ok...but add in the TV and the lines are out the door every day.
                     
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                      ann peeples

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                      RE: Somethings wrong here....... Wed, 03/14/07 11:11 PM (permalink)
                      You yourself stopped by for take-out.My thoughts are that maybe there arent many places in your area to dine out.Or the advertising got to people.I dont know what you ordered,but I am sure there was a better place to get what you wanted-namely a Mom&Pop place.Support those restaurants!!!!
                       
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                        Cinnabonbon

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                        RE: Somethings wrong here....... Wed, 03/14/07 11:42 PM (permalink)
                        quote:
                        Originally posted by Al-The Mayor-Bowen


                        In todays rush around time is valuable world, a lot of folks don't want to take the time to investigate an unsure thing.


                        Sounds like my MIL, my DH takes his Mom to brunch or lunch each Sunday. She has only a few favorite "safe" places including Chili's & Sizzler. It's dejavu each week. We are working real hard to encourage her to try other places. It is a battle because she keeps getting those darn 2 for 1 coupons.
                         
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                          Fieldthistle

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                          RE: Somethings wrong here....... Thu, 03/15/07 7:05 AM (permalink)
                          Hello All,
                          In addition to their marketing skills, Chili's and other such creatures,
                          like Applebees, choose prime locations. They have the corporate money
                          to set up shop where the most people will see and find it. I plan on
                          going to Pierce's Pitt BBQ in Williamsburg, Va., but it's location is
                          out of the way for the average tourist and goes unknown to so many. I have
                          been to Williamsburg over 20 times, but never heard of Pierce's until I
                          discovered Roadfood. Com.
                          Yet I understand that Pierce's Pitt is usually fairly crowded.
                          Take Care,
                          Fieldthistle
                           
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                            jmckee

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                            RE: Somethings wrong here....... Thu, 03/15/07 7:56 AM (permalink)
                            quote:
                            Originally posted by Fieldthistle

                            Hello All,
                            In addition to their marketing skills, Chili's and other such creatures,
                            like Applebees, choose prime locations. They have the corporate money
                            to set up shop where the most people will see and find it. I plan on
                            going to Pierce's Pitt BBQ in Williamsburg, Va., but it's location is
                            out of the way for the average tourist and goes unknown to so many. I have
                            been to Williamsburg over 20 times, but never heard of Pierce's until I
                            discovered Roadfood. Com.
                            Yet I understand that Pierce's Pitt is usually fairly crowded.
                            Take Care,
                            Fieldthistle


                            I used to think that Pierce's was off the beaten path; but it's on a road parallel to I-64, so going east, if you get off at the next exit and double back, it's really no more than maybe a 3-mile detour.
                             
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                              BillyZoom

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                              RE: Somethings wrong here....... Thu, 03/15/07 1:48 PM (permalink)
                              quote:
                              Originally posted by Theedge

                              We had people at work skip our potluck this month because they “didn’t like” anything that was made. Even though they admitted they hadn’t ever tried any of it. I could see maybe being leery of my reuben soup, but we had reuben sandwiches, potato salad and chips as well. There are just a ton of people out there that never leave their comfort zone. Most good bbq joints are little greasy dives where construction workers and highway patrolmen eat lunch. A good portion the public simply look for the newest looking building with the fanciest neon sign.


                              Wait...reuben soup, reubens, potato salad and potato chips!?! And you're surprised. That's not exactly a crowd pleaser menu. No offense.
                               
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                                CajunKing

                                RE: Somethings wrong here....... Thu, 03/15/07 1:50 PM (permalink)
                                quote:
                                Originally posted by Theedge

                                There are just a ton of people out there that never leave their comfort zone. Most good bbq joints are little greasy dives where construction workers and highway patrolmen eat lunch. A good portion the public simply look for the newest looking building with the fanciest neon sign.


                                Edge - you are so right!

                                Case in point: My grandmother has lived by this bbq joint (and it truly is a joint) with grease dripping down the stack. She has never eaten in this place and she lives less than 1 mile from it, she has lived by it for 14 years.

                                I visited her last summer and took her to this place, it was wonderful and she loved it.

                                But she always goes to Po Folks or another chain, and has never been back.

                                They had a BBQ chix sandwich, 1/2 a bbq chix and 2 slices of bread, 2 sides for $5.

                                I was in heaven....

                                 
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                                  BillyZoom

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                                  RE: Somethings wrong here....... Thu, 03/15/07 1:52 PM (permalink)
                                  quote:
                                  Originally posted by BillyZoom

                                  quote:
                                  Originally posted by Theedge

                                  We had people at work skip our potluck this month because they “didn’t like” anything that was made. Even though they admitted they hadn’t ever tried any of it. I could see maybe being leery of my reuben soup, but we had reuben sandwiches, potato salad and chips as well. There are just a ton of people out there that never leave their comfort zone. Most good bbq joints are little greasy dives where construction workers and highway patrolmen eat lunch. A good portion the public simply look for the newest looking building with the fanciest neon sign.


                                  Wait...reuben soup, reubens, potato salad and potato chips!?! And you're surprised. That's not exactly a crowd pleaser menu. No offense.


                                  Oops...I just realized - St. Patrick's Day. My humblest apologies!
                                   
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                                    CajunKing

                                    RE: Somethings wrong here....... Thu, 03/15/07 2:04 PM (permalink)
                                    quote:
                                    Originally posted by BillyZoom

                                    quote:
                                    Originally posted by BillyZoom

                                    quote:
                                    Originally posted by Theedge

                                    We had people at work skip our potluck this month because they “didn’t like” anything that was made. Even though they admitted they hadn’t ever tried any of it. I could see maybe being leery of my reuben soup, but we had reuben sandwiches, potato salad and chips as well. There are just a ton of people out there that never leave their comfort zone. Most good bbq joints are little greasy dives where construction workers and highway patrolmen eat lunch. A good portion the public simply look for the newest looking building with the fanciest neon sign.


                                    Wait...reuben soup, reubens, potato salad and potato chips!?! And you're surprised. That's not exactly a crowd pleaser menu. No offense.


                                    Oops...I just realized - St. Patrick's Day. My humblest apologies!


                                    BillyZoom

                                    We all do that from time to time, Thanks for your follow up

                                    BTW - Welcome to Roadfood
                                     
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                                      V960

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                                      RE: Somethings wrong here....... Fri, 03/16/07 10:51 AM (permalink)
                                      IMHO NC is the center of the BBQ universe but finding ribs on the menu in a traditional NC joint is almost impossible. Where they do whole hog cooking you can sometimes "talk nice" and get a rack or if you hit a place that has a buffet and dumps out half a pig on the buffet, yes you can pick a few off but in general NC doesn't have ribs except at the chains.
                                       
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                                        bassrocker4u2

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                                        RE: Somethings wrong here....... Sat, 03/17/07 6:59 AM (permalink)
                                        i agree, with the advertising thing.... its brainwashing. people dont know whats good, until the ads tell them what to lve.. stupid, but true. this goes with what rick malek was saying in the professionals forum, in his topic 'sell your food'. yea, and location location.
                                         
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                                          tiki

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                                          RE: Somethings wrong here....... Sat, 03/17/07 10:03 AM (permalink)
                                          quote:
                                          Originally posted by ddog27

                                          There is something that has been bothering me. I stopped by Chili’s a few nights ago to get some take out for my family. As I stood there waiting for my order, I noticed that the waiters and waitresses were bringing out plate after plate of ribs. Now in my opinion Chili’s ribs are not that good. So what has been bothering me is why would people go to Chili’s for ribs and people who have a BBQ joint where they serve real low and slow cooked BBQ ribs, struggle to find customers? Something about that seems so wrong. What do you think?

                                          Many years ago-when my wife was in grad school at UCSanDiego and i was doing the MrMom thing-i started taking the kids down to the beach regularly--i noticed that the crowded and well used beach was home to a huge crop of mussels--everything that was exposed by the tide was covered with them--as aq lover of mussels i wondered why no one was gathering them so i took myself and the kids down to the Scripps Oceanagraphic Institute right down the road and asked one of the folks there if there was some kind of red tide or pollution problem that kept folks from eating the local mussels. He said that no there wasn't. I than asked --then why aren't these folks eating them? His reply---"Because they're idiots."
                                           
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                                            BunglingBill

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                                            RE: Somethings wrong here....... Thu, 03/22/07 11:28 AM (permalink)
                                            I think tiki's story about the local mussels is great. And right on target. It amazes me how otherwise-intelligent and educated people can be herded like cattle by MARKETING.

                                            But the really sad part (IMHO) is how "MARKETERS" target kids.
                                             
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                                              bbqjimbob

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                                              RE: Somethings wrong here....... Fri, 03/23/07 11:30 PM (permalink)
                                              quote:
                                              Originally posted by ddog27

                                              There is something that has been bothering me. I stopped by Chili’s a few nights ago to get some take out for my family. As I stood there waiting for my order, I noticed that the waiters and waitresses were bringing out plate after plate of ribs. Now in my opinion Chili’s ribs are not that good. So what has been bothering me is why would people go to Chili’s for ribs and people who have a BBQ joint where they serve real low and slow cooked BBQ ribs, struggle to find customers? Something about that seems so wrong. What do you think?


                                              You're absolutely right on! Unfortunately- so many people have been mislead by the many rib "offerings" out there from restaurants that are no more BBQ joints than McDonalds is a steak house! They don't take the time nor the expense to do ribs right- low and slow, over real wood smoke. The alternative- a much cheaper and easier one, is to start by boiling the ribs (YUCK!) and finishing them in whatever oven they have in their kitchen. Of course, this makes them very bland, thereby creating the need for excessively and disgustingly sweet sauce to cover up the blandness, and in essence, to "flavor" the ribs. Part of the problem is no doubt that many people have come to think of these ribs as good- especially if they've never had ribs done right. Another problem is the higher cost incurred by ribs being done the right way, which has to be passed on to the consumer. If you didn't know better (Quality-wise), which would seem the better deal- A rack of ribs and 2 sides for app $18, or all-you-can-eat ribs for about the same price?
                                               
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