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Stabbing at G&M Crabcakes, Baltimore

From the Baltimore Sun
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/annearundel/bal-md.ar.rantin01mar01,0,7578319.story

Clash over crab cakes moves to courthouse
Man charged in bloody fight at carryout



By Andrea F. Siegel
Sun reporter

March 1, 2007



In the end, neither Jeffrey Rites nor Keith Anthony Rantin Jr. got any of G&M Restaurant and Lounge's famous crab cakes for lunch.

In a scuffle over who was next in line at the Linthicum Heights carryout, Rites was stabbed. Then Rantin was charged. And today, a jury will be asked to sort through the messy saga.

Rantin is on trial in Anne Arundel County Circuit Court, accused of felony assault and three related crimes. Exactly what happened at the restaurant counter - including who started it and who had what weapon - has been the subject of nearly two days of testimony and one video clip.

What was at stake was who would eat first. So coveted are G&M's crab cakes that not only do lines of hungry devotees stretch out the door, but the delicacies can be ordered online and shipped overnight anywhere in the country. Baltimore magazine named them the best in the region in 2004 and 2005, according to the restaurant's Web site.

Assistant State's Attorney Michael Dunty maintains that Rites, 39, of Violetville, responded before Rantin, 31, a Reisterstown barber and home rehabber, when the "who's next?" call went out at lunchtime March 28.

Asserting that Rites was not next, Rantin began arguing, and the confrontation went from words to shoving to the stabbing, the prosecutor said.

Rites had his left wrist slashed and left lung punctured. Employees tried to break up the brawl, and in short order, both men were in the parking lot.

Outside, a Baltimore County rescue crew coming for lunch instead got to take Rites to Maryland Shock Trauma Center.

Within days, a warrant was issued for Rantin, who had left while sirens were wailing.

Through his attorney, Kenneth W. Ravenell, Rantin has maintained that he stabbed an over-the-edge Rites in self-defense.

On the witness stand yesterday, Rantin said that when he tried to say that he was really next, Rites responded with profanity and a shove. So he put his keys and cash down and came at Rites.

"I pushed him because he pushed me," Rantin testified on cross-examination.

Rantin testified that he saw Rites reach for his waist. He figured Rites was going to grab a knife - but he did not see one - so Rantin grabbed his own knife from his waist, he said.

"I stuck him first," Rantin said. "He had me pinned up against the case. I was not going down for this guy to stick me."

A restaurant worker recalled a frenzied scene but didn't see a stabbing.

"All of a sudden, there was a commotion," testified carryout manager Pantelis Ieronomahos, who had been at the cash register.

Rites called Rantin "all kinds of names," he said, reluctant to repeat the vulgarities. But Judge William C. Mulford II coaxed the foul language out of him.

Police recovered no knives. Rantin admitted that he threw away his bloody T-shirt and knife when he reached his Baltimore work site.

"I still didn't get lunch," Rantin said.
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    Michael Hoffman
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    RE: Stabbing at G&M Crabcakes, Baltimore 2007/03/01 11:43:55 (permalink)
    Well, they are really, really good, but that's going just a tad too far.
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    RE: Stabbing at G&M Crabcakes, Baltimore 2007/03/01 12:29:36 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by Michael Hoffman

    Well, they are really, really good, but that's going just a tad too far.


    Unless you are really hungry.
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    RE: Stabbing at G&M Crabcakes, Baltimore 2007/03/01 12:30:57 (permalink)
    quote:
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    quote:
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    Well, they are really, really good, but that's going just a tad too far.


    Unless you are really hungry.

    There is that.
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    RE: Stabbing at G&M Crabcakes, Baltimore 2007/03/01 14:05:09 (permalink)
    I will agree with you that they are really good, but to stab someone for them.......

    I think I will stick to mail order.
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    RE: Stabbing at G&M Crabcakes, Baltimore 2007/03/01 14:19:45 (permalink)
    I have been known to go to great leangths for good food, but this is just ridiculous. As much as I hate the idea of somebody cutting in line, I'm not willing to get stabbed over "Who's Next".
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    RE: Stabbing at G&M Crabcakes, Baltimore 2007/03/01 14:23:00 (permalink)
    Cajun- Sounds like a disgruntled Postal Worker Situation... Sticking it to the Mail order person?

    Yeah , The Crabcakes are that good! I have a feeling that the next time we want to hold a 'Crabstock' session there, the authorities will be busy snapping photos of our membership for Homeland Security!

    Here's a recent Roadfood Delivery at G & M during a Crabstock Meeting. I think it could start WW III if the timing was right!

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    RE: Stabbing at G&M Crabcakes, Baltimore 2007/03/01 15:11:50 (permalink)
    You mean, it's not "Stabbing is Caring"?

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    RE: Stabbing at G&M Crabcakes, Baltimore 2007/03/01 15:37:35 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by Al-The Mayor-Bowen

    Cajun- Sounds like a disgruntled Postal Worker Situation... Sticking it to the Mail order person?

    Yeah , The Crabcakes are that good! I have a feeling that the next time we want to hold a 'Crabstock' session there, the authorities will be busy snapping photos of our membership for Homeland Security!

    Here's a recent Roadfood Delivery at G & M during a Crabstock Meeting. I think it could start WW III if the timing was right!


    They are that good. I had some shipped over Christmas. For my birthday I'm taking out a second mortgage on my house to get more!
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    RE: Stabbing at G&M Crabcakes, Baltimore 2007/03/01 16:11:45 (permalink)
    Signman, wherever you are, please bring your gun with you when we meet up at G&M in July, on our trip to Lancaster.
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    RE: Stabbing at G&M Crabcakes, Baltimore 2007/03/01 19:44:55 (permalink)
    Lancaster, PA. Great downtown food market. Great small town with lotsa options.

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    RE: Stabbing at G&M Crabcakes, Baltimore 2007/03/02 00:03:53 (permalink)
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    Signman, wherever you are, please bring your gun with you when we meet up at G&M in July, on our trip to Lancaster.


    Wait a minute, this is Maryland we're talking about not Virginia. Concealed carry in Md is almost unheard of and open carry is Verboten! Where as in Va concealed carry permits are fairly easy to get and open carry is perfectly legal.

    Otherwise it's never smart to fight over who might be next for a meal.

    MikeS.
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    RE: Stabbing at G&M Crabcakes, Baltimore 2007/03/02 00:12:18 (permalink)
    I love crab cakes. Reading this article makes me think twice about speaking up when someone cuts in line at the food counter...
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    RE: Stabbing at G&M Crabcakes, Baltimore 2007/03/02 07:13:29 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by MikeS.

    quote:
    Originally posted by Oneiron339

    Signman, wherever you are, please bring your gun with you when we meet up at G&M in July, on our trip to Lancaster.


    Wait a minute, this is Maryland we're talking about not Virginia. Concealed carry in Md is almost unheard of and open carry is Verboten! Where as in Va concealed carry permits are fairly easy to get and open carry is perfectly legal.

    Otherwise it's never smart to fight over who might be next for a meal.

    MikeS.

    Well in that case I'll just stand behind Signman when the shootin' starts.
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    RE: Stabbing at G&M Crabcakes, Baltimore 2007/03/02 12:42:11 (permalink)
    I know when to keep my mouth shut.

    Actually, will be dining at either G & M or Olive Grove tonight.
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    RE: Stabbing at G&M Crabcakes, Baltimore 2007/03/02 13:41:47 (permalink)
    I read the article.
    The Judge appears to be a complete jerk- coaxing the profanities out of the victim. Profanity may not be the most mature way to deal with things- but it's not against the law and it doesn't give the other party a right to stab, shoot or kill someone. Nowadays it almost seems permissible to assault someone because they flipped you the bird or uttered something you found insulting or offensive. Maybe when you're twelve years old it's ok, but as adults in the real world any type of assault even when it's provoked by profanity is a criminal act and should be punished to the fullest extent of the law
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    RE: Stabbing at G&M Crabcakes, Baltimore 2007/03/02 19:36:09 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by wanderingjew

    IProfanity may not be the most mature way to deal with things- but it's not against the law


    Actually, there are many laws preventing certain uses of profanities and other language, expecially when used in conjunction with physical force, like pushing.

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    RE: Stabbing at G&M Crabcakes, Baltimore 2007/03/04 10:35:34 (permalink)
    quote:
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    quote:
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    IProfanity may not be the most mature way to deal with things- but it's not against the law


    Actually, there are many laws preventing certain uses of profanities and other language, expecially when used in conjunction with physical force, like pushing.



    This is Baltimore, what's your point?
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    RE: Stabbing at G&M Crabcakes, Baltimore 2007/03/04 10:56:51 (permalink)
    This makes me feel better about almost always allowing others to go in front of me if they are in a big hurry. You live longer that way.
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    RE: Stabbing at G&M Crabcakes, Baltimore 2007/03/04 13:07:13 (permalink)
    http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/annearundel/bal-rantin0302,0,5673128.story

    No verdict in Arundel crab cake dispute
    Man was stabbed during argument about who was first in line
    By Andrea F. Seigel
    Sun Reporter

    Originally published March 2, 2007, 9:11 PM EST

    After almost a day and a half of deliberations, an Anne Arundel County jury was unable to reach a verdict Friday in a stabbing case that stemmed from a dispute over who was next in line at a popular crab cake restaurant.
    Keith Anthony Rantin Jr., 31, of Reisterstown faced a four-count indictment in the March 28, 2006, stabbing of Jeffrey Rites, 39, of Carroll County at the G&M Restaurant and Lounge in Linthicum Heights.

    Prosecutors maintained that Rantin attacked Rites at the carryout counter during the lunch rush. Rantin's lawyer said he acted in self-defense.

    "We believe that the evidence shows that Mr. Rantin acted in self-defense, said Kenneth W. Ravenell, Rantin's attorney.

    Prosecutors plan to retry to the case, said a spokeswoman for the state's attorney.

    Rites insisted Friday that he had no weapon at the restaurant. "Justice was not served," he said.

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    RE: Stabbing at G&M Crabcakes, Baltimore 2007/03/05 14:23:43 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by Oneiron339

    quote:
    Originally posted by Scorereader

    quote:
    Originally posted by wanderingjew

    IProfanity may not be the most mature way to deal with things- but it's not against the law


    Actually, there are many laws preventing certain uses of profanities and other language, expecially when used in conjunction with physical force, like pushing.



    This is Baltimore, what's your point?


    my point is that you can't just start using profanities and then say the other person "assaulted" you.
    and it's not Baltimore, it's Linthicum Heights, which is in Anne Arundel County.
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    RE: Stabbing at G&M Crabcakes, Baltimore 2007/03/05 14:31:24 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by Scorereader

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    Originally posted by Oneiron339

    quote:
    Originally posted by Scorereader

    quote:
    Originally posted by wanderingjew

    IProfanity may not be the most mature way to deal with things- but it's not against the law


    Actually, there are many laws preventing certain uses of profanities and other language, expecially when used in conjunction with physical force, like pushing.



    This is Baltimore, what's your point?


    my point is that you can't just start using profanities and then say the other person "assaulted" you.
    and it's not Baltimore, it's Linthicum Heights, which is in Anne Arundel County.



    yes and no.

    Telling someone what they can do with themselves or calling them a "blankety blank blank" does not warrant any type of physical assault- that would be completely inexcusable however if someone says they are going to do blank-blank-blank to you and then lunges after you, well- use your best judgement wisely
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    RE: Stabbing at G&M Crabcakes, Baltimore 2007/03/05 17:01:35 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by wanderingjew

    quote:
    Originally posted by Scorereader

    quote:
    Originally posted by Oneiron339

    quote:
    Originally posted by Scorereader

    quote:
    Originally posted by wanderingjew

    IProfanity may not be the most mature way to deal with things- but it's not against the law


    Actually, there are many laws preventing certain uses of profanities and other language, expecially when used in conjunction with physical force, like pushing.



    This is Baltimore, what's your point?


    my point is that you can't just start using profanities and then say the other person "assaulted" you.
    and it's not Baltimore, it's Linthicum Heights, which is in Anne Arundel County.



    yes and no.

    Telling someone what they can do with themselves or calling them a "blankety blank blank" does not warrant any type of physical assault- that would be completely inexcusable however if someone says they are going to do blank-blank-blank to you and then lunges after you, well- use your best judgement wisely


    they don't just have to lung at you, they can display apparent threatening body language. It's a bit knee-jerk to say that the person who did the stabbing was clearly "out of his mind" or "wrong," since he may have actually been defending himself, as the jurors can't seem to find him guilty.


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    RE: Stabbing at G&M Crabcakes, Baltimore 2007/03/05 17:31:16 (permalink)
    I'm surprised they didn't put G & M's website address in the original article. LOL. They do look really tasty though!
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    RE: Stabbing at G&M Crabcakes, Baltimore 2007/03/05 18:09:53 (permalink)
    Deerfolk,
    Bin I the third in line, I'd'a solved the problem real good. I'd'a jest pulled my sawed-off out'n under my coat, blasted 'em both to heck an' gone, blowed the smoke off'n the barrel, hooked it back up'n under my coat, and... guess whut?!?!?!? -- I'd'a been THE NEXT ONE IN LINE!
    Gaw'lee, it don't git no eas'er then that.
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    RE: Stabbing at G&M Crabcakes, Baltimore 2007/03/05 18:10:04 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by Scorereader

    quote:
    Originally posted by wanderingjew

    quote:
    Originally posted by Scorereader

    quote:
    Originally posted by Oneiron339

    quote:
    Originally posted by Scorereader

    quote:
    Originally posted by wanderingjew

    IProfanity may not be the most mature way to deal with things- but it's not against the law


    Actually, there are many laws preventing certain uses of profanities and other language, expecially when used in conjunction with physical force, like pushing.



    This is Baltimore, what's your point?


    my point is that you can't just start using profanities and then say the other person "assaulted" you.
    and it's not Baltimore, it's Linthicum Heights, which is in Anne Arundel County.



    yes and no.

    Telling someone what they can do with themselves or calling them a "blankety blank blank" does not warrant any type of physical assault- that would be completely inexcusable however if someone says they are going to do blank-blank-blank to you and then lunges after you, well- use your best judgement wisely


    they don't just have to lung at you, they can display apparent threatening body language. It's a bit knee-jerk to say that the person who did the stabbing was clearly "out of his mind" or "wrong," since he may have actually been defending himself, as the jurors can't seem to find him guilty.


    There are so many factors that have to be taken into consideration.
    Many of which I don't want to get into,however if you recall even OJ got off despite the obvious surmountable evidence against him. Personally I would question why this guy was carrying around a knife to begin with- I certainly don't and off hand I can't think of any friends or family that go around carrying knives. It seems like the profanity vs self defense card is almost as horrendous as the rape/sexual assault "she was asking for it card" thankfully now most juries won't buy that, however back in the day, many did.
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    RE: Stabbing at G&M Crabcakes, Baltimore 2007/03/05 18:26:01 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by wanderingjew

    It seems like the profanity vs self defense card is almost as horrendous as the rape/sexual assault "she was asking for it card".


    they are not even in the same ballpark. BAD analogy.

    MANY people carry around a pocket knife or two or other utility knife at all times. two of my best friends and my father in law included. My good buddy in my office used to carry around a 3-4" pocket knife until he got his gov't job and can't get in the building with a knife in his pocket. There are numerous uses for a small knife on your person.


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    RE: Stabbing at G&M Crabcakes, Baltimore 2007/03/06 00:46:44 (permalink)
    I've carred a pocket knife for the majority of my life. I still do, even working in a class 5 federal facility and up until 9/11 I carried it on airplanes too. It's about a 3.5" blade that I keep wicked sharp. It's a very useful tool. A few times it's come in very handy at a restaurant.

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    RE: Stabbing at G&M Crabcakes, Baltimore 2007/03/06 09:40:22 (permalink)
    Are they going to start calling them "stabcakes" now?
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    RE: Stabbing at G&M Crabcakes, Baltimore 2007/03/06 10:42:47 (permalink)
    quote:
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    Are they going to start calling them "stabcakes" now?




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