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State College Area

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Mrs. Sippi and I will be heading "Down yonder" at the end of the month. We'll be on the road June 30 and will need lunch somewhere along the following route http://tinyurl.com/paroute

Can anyone suggest something very unique, cool or otherwise special. As of right now we're gonna head into town and hit "The Diner." We'd prefer to stay outside of town.

I have a blog and am always looking to find places to add to it. A quick look will give you an idea of the types of places we look for on the road
www.davwudsfoodcourt.blogspot.com

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    Re:State College Area 2010/06/16 14:06:52 (permalink)
    A visit to the Penn State Creamery is a must:

    http://creamery.psu.edu/
    http://www.roadfood.com/Restaurant/Reviews/3691/penn-state-creamery


    For a good steak:
    http://www.kellys-steak.com/content/home.php

    The Corner Room is always a treat:

    http://www.hotelstatecollege.com/

    The Tavern is an old reliable:

    http://thetavern.com/

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    Re:State College Area 2010/06/16 14:23:56 (permalink)
    outside of town is clem's bbq-real good. downtown is spats-cajun cooking but $$. lots of philly style subs and cheese steak places too.
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    Re:State College Area 2010/06/17 07:32:27 (permalink)
    hipster006

    outside of town is clem's bbq-real good. downtown is spats-cajun cooking but $$. lots of philly style subs and cheese steak places too.


    Hipster,
     
    Not to hijack the thread.....but exactly where is the new Clem's? I know he closed the original location down in Port Matilda, I had the honor of having some of the last BBQ served up at the original roadside joint. Sometimes progress, in this case the new highway, isn't always a good thing....
     
    Davwud.....Clem's would be worth stopping by. If there is such a thing as Pennsylvania BBQ Clem's is the spot to try it.
     
     
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    Re:State College Area 2010/06/17 10:35:57 (permalink)

     
    "Davwud.....Clem's would be worth stopping by. If there is such a thing as Pennsylvania BBQ Clem's is the spot to try it."
     
     
    Is Pennsylvania BBQ just like southern BBQ but done in PA??
    We're heading to BBQ central so we'll most likely wait until we get there. Unless it's unique to that area of course. Then it's worth a stop.

    DT


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    Re:State College Area 2010/06/17 12:49:54 (permalink)
    http://www.roadfood.com/Restaurant/Reviews/3722/clems-woodfired-bbq

    Take a look at the link.......when Clem's was located in Port Matilda it certainly was unique.....now not so sure haven't been to the new location.
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    Re:State College Area 2010/06/17 12:59:17 (permalink)
    The Creamery and Ye Olde Diner were both on the mark last October.   Take some ice cream home too!      It's a 2-3 hour ride for us - and they pack it nice and cold!

    We stayed at The Nittany Lion Inn and had one of the best Sunday brunches ever.  I'm not necessarily a "brunch" person - but was quite impressed.
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    Re:State College Area 2010/06/17 17:32:44 (permalink)
    Clem's location:

    If you are southbound on I- 99 / US 220, take Exit 45 (Tipton / Grazierville), which is the exit just south of Tyrone.  Then backtrack north on OLD US 220 about 100 yards; Clem's will be on your left.


    http://www.clemsfire.com/
     
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    Re:State College Area 2010/06/18 19:40:48 (permalink)
    Try the sweet potato fries dipped in the homemade maple pecan syrup while you sit on the porch and watch the Pennsylvania Amish horses and buggies pass by at the Hublersburg Inn: (website: hublersburginn "dot" com)
    Howard, PA near Lamar on Route 64 - Nittany Valley Drive, not far off Interstate 80
    Great "gourmet" bar food in a tavern with some history; best wings, chili, nachos, artichoke dip in Central PA.
    post edited by jayrobert - 2010/06/18 19:53:14
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    Re:State College Area 2010/06/19 04:54:04 (permalink)
    You Gotta have a Sticky Bun at The Diner when you're in State College!
    http://www.thedineronline.com/stickies
    post edited by Foodbme - 2010/06/19 04:55:19
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    Re:State College Area 2010/06/21 11:53:53 (permalink)
    Foodbme

    You Gotta have a Sticky Bun at The Diner when you're in State College!
    http://www.thedineronline.com/stickies


    I think this is gonna be the winner.

    We love watching "Todd's Taste of the Town" and I know he did a segment on the Sticky Bun and I thought then that it seemed like a place I needed to go.

    DT
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    Re:State College Area 2010/06/21 21:04:07 (permalink)
    The Diner's stickies and the Creamery's ice cream aren't what they're cracked up to be. I'd skip the Creamery -- it's not horrible but  it can taste like chemicals and there's not a lot of flavor considering the fat content (it can't be sold commercially outside of campus because of the fat content) and it can give you the same sensation you'd get from licking Crisco if you kept it in the refrigerator long enough to chill. Go to Meyer's Dairy instead for some local country ice cream. Then skip downtown State College altogether (warm up any stale honey bun from a gas station in a microwave and it will be just as good as the over-glorified stickies) and head either to Duffy's Tavern in Boalsburg (home of the first Memorial Day) or Hublersburg Inn, like I explained in my previous post above, in Howard. Both have great food, they're family owned and have historic significance. The recently renovated Gamble Mill Tavern in Bellefonte is also a decent choice. And if you really want to see some of the local color of the State College area, try breakfast at the Sunset West Diner on 26/East College Avenue.
    post edited by jayrobert - 2010/06/21 21:41:19
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    Re:State College Area 2010/06/21 21:40:09 (permalink)
    If this is lunch, you're not going to be interested in Kelly's.  Yes, the food is good but the place is expensive.  It's a special occasion place in my book.  The Corner or the Diner is more up your alley for a lunch.  Sounds like you have your heart set on the Diner so I'm not going to try and talk you out of it but a nice lunch spot is also Baby's.  This is a retro-1950's themed place with an old school lunch counter and tables.  Juke box at each table, etc.  They mix their own shakes in a mixer like back in the day.  The waitresses are cute and friendly.  The food is really good. 

    http://babysburgers.com/

    When you get to Toon Town, on Pleasant Valley Boulevard is a strip mall.  If you're a beer drinker, stock up before you head home at the Brew Zoo.  Big selection and best prices anywhere.  Just a tip I thought I'd mention.  Enjoy your trip. 

    http://brewzoo.com/age.php
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    Re:State College Area 2010/06/21 21:46:34 (permalink)
    We did not enjoy the Diner at all............dreadful service, wrong food delivered to us  and  nothing was that good.

    However we did love the Creamery...................a real Roadfood  stop.

    Kelly's  is outstanding  but  not really  what you would consided roadfood.....................but the food is great  and cannot wait to go there again  for an outstanding meal                                                                                                                                                      
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    Re:State College Area 2010/06/21 21:51:56 (permalink)
    The Diner's been living on its reputation for quite awhile now.  I've heard from many people that it's gone downhill with the pedal to the metal but not having eaten there in years, I can't really put the hammer on the place. 
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    Re:State College Area 2010/06/22 00:36:17 (permalink)
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    The Diner's stickies and the Creamery's ice cream aren't what they're cracked up to be. I'd skip the Creamery -- it's not horrible but  it can taste like chemicals and there's not a lot of flavor considering the fat content (it can't be sold commercially outside of campus because of the fat content) and it can give you the same sensation you'd get from licking Crisco if you kept it in the refrigerator long enough to chill. Go to Meyer's Dairy instead for some local country ice cream. Then skip downtown State College altogether (warm up any stale honey bun from a gas station in a microwave and it will be just as good as the over-glorified stickies) and head either to Duffy's Tavern in Boalsburg (home of the first Memorial Day) or Hublersburg Inn, like I explained in my previous post above, in Howard. Both have great food, they're family owned and have historic significance. The recently renovated Gamble Mill Tavern in Bellefonte is also a decent choice. And if you really want to see some of the local color of the State College area, try breakfast at the Sunset West Diner on 26/East College Avenue.


    Anyone who knocks the Creamery Ice Cream has absolutely no food credibility in my book. Hundreds of thousands of satisfied Ice Cream eaters can't be wrong!
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    Re:State College Area 2010/06/22 09:46:45 (permalink)
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    If this is lunch, you're not going to be interested in Kelly's.  Yes, the food is good but the place is expensive.  It's a special occasion place in my book.  The Corner or the Diner is more up your alley for a lunch.  Sounds like you have your heart set on the Diner so I'm not going to try and talk you out of it but a nice lunch spot is also Baby's.  This is a retro-1950's themed place with an old school lunch counter and tables.  Juke box at each table, etc.  They mix their own shakes in a mixer like back in the day.  The waitresses are cute and friendly.  The food is really good. 

    http://babysburgers.com/




    I don't have my "Heart set" on the diner but it was my default position going into this.

    I'm very intriqued by Baby's. We have few good burgers here in TO and it seems like it would be fun and quick.
    It's now leading the pack.

    DT
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    Re:State College Area 2010/06/22 11:04:58 (permalink)
    I'd deter you away from Baby's as well. It's not a real genuine diner, just one of those cosmetic retro imitations you can find in any town. The kind that just puts a reproduced Coca Cola sign on the wall and queues up Love Me Tender on the juke box and makes it like a real Disneyland kind of experience. Faux culture at its best.
     
     I guess if you just have to eat in downtown State College, I'd either go upstairs to the Allen Street Grill just for the view alone, The Tavern for the most typical Penn State experience at a place that's been their since the beginning, or The Deli which probably has the best lunch and desserts. But if you really want the best food at the best places, I'd still stand by my previous suggestions in Boalsburg, Hublersburg or Bellefonte from my earlier posts:
    Hublersburg Inn
    Duffy's Tavern
    Gamble Mill 
    And don't forget the ice cream at Meyer's Dairy
     
    post edited by jayrobert - 2010/06/22 11:13:25
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    Re:State College Area 2010/06/22 11:16:51 (permalink)
    jayrobert

    The Diner's stickies and the Creamery's ice cream aren't what they're cracked up to be....


    I stopped at the Creamery for the first time last fall.  I agree -- the ice cream was ok, but not great.  It was more cold than taste -- not sure this makes sense, but that is my recollection.   
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    Re:State College Area 2010/06/22 17:19:58 (permalink)
    Baby's is an authentic diner.

    Only one State College diner now trades on its origins. Baby's Burgers and Shakes at 131 South Garner arrived in town by truck in 1950. The name of its first owner eludes my informants, but the sleek model built in 1949 first operated as New Park Diner. By 1966, it had passed to Theodore Cocolin, who capitalized on a trend toward southern food, called it the Char Pit, and began to serve Kentucky Fried Chicken. The diner then accommodated a Weiner King, then a Pedro's, and then in 1987, an investor group including local accountant C.J. Wagner, 80, purchased the building and turned it into the 1950s theme restaurant (a diner theme within a diner!) that operates there now.
    Baby's proves that nostalgia sells - both burgers and Visa Cards. But if you're terminally nostalgic, you can always walk uptown to 126 West College and crawl under the foundation of Ye Old College Diner. Bill Henning promises you'll find the axles of Russ Adamitz's 1930 College Diner still in place.

    http://www.thediner.statecollege.com/history.html


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    Re:State College Area 2010/06/22 17:42:24 (permalink)
    No, Baby's is a "theme" restaurant, just like the article says. (When the terms "theme restaurant" and "investment group" appear in the same paragraph, you know it's not going to be a genuine roadfood experience.) It might have been an authentic restaurant when it operated as the New Park Diner and the Char Pit, but now it's nothing more than a cheap gimmick. If you want an ice cream soda at a real diner, avoid the Baby's tourist trap and head to Sunset West Restaurant, which hasn't changed since the day it opened.
     

     
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    Re:State College Area 2010/06/24 10:47:16 (permalink)
    Just to confuse my decision more.

    I spoke to my "Penn State lovin'" buddy last night and he suggested Allen Street Grill.

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    Re:State College Area 2010/06/24 13:49:34 (permalink)
    The food at Allen Street Grill is fine though nothing unique to write home about, but it has a great atmosphere overlooking all the activity of College Avenue from above street level with a view of Old Main across the street. The real heart of the campus is right there at that intersection. You can sit in the windows above the Corner Room for the view but there's also a great piano bar off to the side if you're there around happy hour. Zeno's, which is the pub in the basement is also worth a stop if you're still around later in the evening for some quality music and entertainment.
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    Re:State College Area 2010/06/25 01:11:03 (permalink)
    Creamery is incredible. Anyone who says otherwise works at another ice-cream stand in town. The milk comes from the campus cows, there's nothing chemical about it.

    You can slam Baby's for it's faux 50s theme (although the food is good), and Allen Street Grill is more about location than food, but don't mess with the creamery.

    BTW - late at night, I enjoyed a philly cheesesteak from CC Peppers. Probably not the healthiest thing.

    And while not wildly incredible, I always leave town with a sub from the Penn State Sub Shop on E Beaver Ave, for some ride home grub.

    A side trip took us to Doan's Bones BBQ at the entrance to Whipple Dam State Park on rt. 26. A real bbq pit, the ribs are great. Seasonal shack, this is true roadfood.

    WE ARE...

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    Re:State College Area 2010/06/25 07:28:58 (permalink)
    Does Baby's sit across the street from where the old Playland Arcade (maybe it was the Campus Casino) used to be....could still be there haven't been home in years.

    I remember a "diner" looking place that served Mexican across the side street adjacent to the arcade. I believe there was a public parking lot just behind the arcade as well.

    I goggled it but the map doesn't really help me I'm a landmark navigator...LOL Oh and I love the PS Sub Shop, I'm an OIP guy, but I love the Sub Shop.
     
    Is Suzie Wong's still around.....the best Egg Roll's I've ever eaten, and I've eaten them all over the world. Something about that mayonazie dipping sauce.........
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    Re:State College Area 2010/06/26 19:10:24 (permalink)
    ScorereaderCreamery is incredible. Anyone who says otherwise works at another ice-cream stand in town. The milk comes from the campus cows, there's nothing chemical about it.

     
    See Discover magazine, "The Scoop on Ice Cream, It's really a complex chemical cocktail, each lick of which sets off a physical and sensual explosion." by Lawrence E. Joseph, August 1992:
     
    "Ice cream is virtually the only food we eat frozen, which means that its flavor, which we define as a composite of taste and smell, is only fully released upon melting, explains Arun Kilara, a 43-year-old professor of food science at Penn State and one of the world’s acknowledged authorities on ice cream. Kilara is the leader and principal lecturer of an annual two-week industry seminar on ice cream run by Penn State’s Department of Food Science. The seminar was started a century ago as a winter course on milk processing for local dairy farmers. Today it is widely regarded as the foremost forum on the science of ice cream, and it has been presented to thousands of dairy professionals on four continents and to tens of thousands more in the form of a correspondence course.
    . . . 
     
    "Along with milk, cream, flavorings, and sugar, the typical ice cream mix also includes stabilizers--compounds that bind water molecules and keep them from freezing--and emulsifiers, which facilitate the dispersion of the milk fat. Curiously, the same industry purists who demand strict federal standards of identity for frozen dairy desserts also insist on the right to include all sorts of exotic chemicals in the products they deem pure. Not so much in the case of sweeteners, which, except in specific dietetic formulations, are usually simple mixtures of cane or beet sucrose and dextrose corn sweetener. But what about all that other gunk? Are such stabilizing gels and gums as those made from locust beans, guar gum, carrageenan (Irish moss extract), crystallized methylcellulose, gelatin, and alginates (obtained from ocean kelp) truly needed in such a basic food as ice cream? Why make chemical cocktails out of what should really just be snowy white vanilla?
     
    "The answer is to prevent heat shock, the trauma that ice cream suffers when it is allowed to melt and refreeze. There’s nothing to beat fresh ice cream, Kilara says with a smile. We used to make it at home in New Delhi. But few people make homemade ice cream these days, and not all that many buy it fresh-dipped. With the rise of the suburbs the market has shifted to packaged products, which are shipped, stored, and subjected to all kinds of temperature stress. That’s where food science comes in, to make a product that can survive distribution and still be as good, or almost, as if it were made in the kitchen.

    "When ice cream suffers heat shock during transport or storage, its ice crystals grow larger, making the refrozen product grainier. The threshold of perception is 20 microns, or about one-thousandth of an inch, at which point the offending particles can be sensed in the mouth. Stabilizing gels and gums minimize the traumatic effects. Although rarely accounting for more than half a percent of the mix by weight, these hydrocolloids--a group of molecules that can bind many times their weight in water--employ complex branch structures that work like gummy tentacles to trap water molecules and prevent them from clumping together. The more stabilizer added, the smaller the ice crystals and the smoother the ice cream."
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    Re:State College Area 2010/06/29 10:25:18 (permalink)
    Okay sports fans all the votes are in.

    The plan is...... Baby's.

    I did a lot of reading and for the most part people are in agreement. The Diner sucks. Other than the stickies that is.

    Allen St. got a lot of consideration and when I actually make it there for a game, it'll be on my "To do" list.

    The biggest complaint I've seen from Baby's is the cost/portion size factor. I'm not worried. You can easily pay $15 for a burger combo here and it's not very good. So price isn't really a consideration. Most people say the food ranges from "Solid" to very good.

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    Re:State College Area 2010/06/29 13:24:32 (permalink)
    You'll have almost no chance of making it into the Allen Street Grill on a football weekend. The same goes for the Tavern. Why not take advantage of the fact that you'll be there when it's not crowded and eat at one of these two?
     
    My biggest objection to Baby's is not the price, but the corny atmosphere. You'll get a much better burger at Hublersburg, Duffy's or the Gamble Mill. Hublersburg might have the best burger in Pennsylvania.
     
    If you want to eat downtown and a burger in more of a casual setting is what you're going for, I'd pick almost any restaurant over Baby's, including the Deli, the Diner or the Corner Room. Baby's would basically be like going to a Johnny Rockets.
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    Re:State College Area 2010/06/29 15:08:03 (permalink)
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    You'll have almost no chance of making it into the Allen Street Grill on a football weekend. The same goes for the Tavern. Why not take advantage of the fact that you'll be there when it's not crowded and eat at one of these two?
     
    My biggest objection to Baby's is not the price, but the corny atmosphere. You'll get a much better burger at Hublersburg, Duffy's or the Gamble Mill. Hublersburg might have the best burger in Pennsylvania.
     
    If you want to eat downtown and a burger in more of a casual setting is what you're going for, I'd pick almost any restaurant over Baby's, including the Deli, the Diner or the Corner Room. Baby's would basically be like going to a Johnny Rockets.


    What part of "He's Made A Decision" don't you understand "Mr. Know-It-All about State College". Just because you are the self-proclaimed expert on St. College doesn't mean everyone has to accept or agree with your opinions. You expressed your opinions earlier in the post, he made a decision---CASE CLOSED!
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    Re:State College Area 2010/06/30 23:01:22 (permalink)
    So we ate at Baby's as was out plan.

    The food was good. Nothing earth shattering but pretty solid.

    Mrs. Sippi had a Reuben. It was fine.
    I had a cheese burger. It too was fine.
    The "5 Alarm" chili was only so so. Even with the hot peppers it was only 2 alarm.

    The milk shake was mind blowing though. Double chocolate with Oreo in it. OMG it was amazing. Worth the trip just for that.

    I liked the place though. The 50's theme worked for me.

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