~ Student Prince Bites the Dust (?)

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2014/06/24 14:55:26 (permalink)

~ Student Prince Bites the Dust (?)

Doesn't look good to me:
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    Foodbme
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    Re:~ Student Prince Bites the Dust (?) 2014/06/24 17:14:05 (permalink)
    A sad but typical story of declining downtowns all across America.
    Sounded like a wonderful place. I would have liked to have seen it during the Christmas Season.
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    Re:~ Student Prince Bites the Dust (?) 2014/06/26 09:19:55 (permalink)
    Sad to hear. I think I'll have my morning juice in my Student Prince short beer glass that somehow wound up in my pocket the one time I was there.
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    Re:~ Student Prince Bites the Dust (?) 2014/06/26 09:31:04 (permalink)
    So atypical of many cities where you cannot swing a dead cat without hitting some construction zone with it's plethora of orange barrels. You can't even walk a block in downtown Austin without having to cross the street to avoid construction and consequently businesses and a lot of good eateries are closing.
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    Re:~ Student Prince Bites the Dust (?) 2014/06/26 09:37:08 (permalink)
    Foodbme

    A sad but typical story of declining downtowns all across America.
    Sounded like a wonderful place. I would have liked to have seen it during the Christmas Season.


    The 'old downtowns' of McKinney, Frisco, Allen, and Plano, TX are booming and brimming with businesses old and new.  Maybe the fine remaining folk in Springfield can petition Senator Pocahontas to subsidize the place or perhaps to forbid competition.  Yeah, that's the ticket! 
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    Re:~ Student Prince Bites the Dust (?) 2014/06/26 09:44:45 (permalink)
    I went to Springfield College ('72), and even then the city was in trouble. My parents took me to The Student Prince several times, and it was a few doors down from where I took my induction physical.
     
    If good people and community spirit could save a city, Springfield would be a great place to live, but community spirit does not replace good jobs. Downtown has become such a war zone that the state police had to take over patrols, because the city can't afford to do it right. Maybe the new casino (if built) will help the city to recover, but it will not help independent restaurants like the Prince.
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    Re:~ Student Prince Bites the Dust (?) 2014/06/26 10:24:56 (permalink)
    I had no idea that things had gotten so bad for Springfield, MA since I last visited it in 1970.  But now a frigging CASINO!!!  Now, that's the ticket
     
    Casinos sure 'saved' Detroit, didn't they?  All these 'institutions' do is create prosperity for pawnshops.  And when will the 'well-intended' realize that state-run gambling is a regressive tax?
     
    I pine for the days when the Mafia ran the numbers and made pinball machines 'pay-off'.  At least they returned 60% of the handle to the players; the states only return 40%.
     
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    Re:~ Student Prince Bites the Dust (?) 2014/06/26 13:05:46 (permalink)
    I actually ate in this restaurant in 1959 while visiting a girlfriend who was attending American International College in Springfield.
     
    I distinctly remember eating Mallard Duck. Dark and gamey, delicious.
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    Re:~ Student Prince Bites the Dust (?) 2014/06/26 13:22:53 (permalink)
    I've been to third world countries where I was more comfortable than in downtown Springfield ... I have a condo up the road in Northampton ... 20 miles and 20,000 worlds apart
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    Re:~ Student Prince Bites the Dust (?) 2014/06/26 16:11:28 (permalink)
    Twinwillow

    I actually ate in this restaurant in 1959 while visiting a girlfriend who was attending American International College in Springfield.

    I distinctly remember eating Mallard Duck. Dark and gamey, delicious.

    AIC was a good school in my day, but their part of the city has gone really down hill. It is now called "Almost In College", and badly needs paint.  Springfield College borders Lake Massasoit (actually more of a large shallow pond), on one side, and a good neighborhood from the other. A fence and security patrols keeps it safe from the "bad side", over towards AIC. Very sad.  I remember letting kids into games through a hole in the fence. Such a stunt today would not be tolerated.
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    Re:~ Student Prince Bites the Dust (?) 2014/06/26 16:24:41 (permalink)
    MetroplexJim

    I had no idea that things had gotten so bad for Springfield, MA since I last visited it in 1970.  But now a frigging CASINO!!!  Now, that's the ticket!  ............ 


     
    It is a mess, Jim. The anti folks got signatures to put it on the ballot, and the attorney general refused. It went to court. It will be on the ballot on the fall. Polls are running about 45-55 for. A friend, a real policy wonk (and I mean that as a compliment), has a full time job with the no folks. The atty gen is running for gov. In any other state my friend would have a bright political future, as it is Martha Coakly may be in the lead for gov, because her folks have already spent the casino money in their minds. 
     
    I don't care for casinos, but on most days, over half of the cars at CT casinos are from Mass, and the spenders in Boston hate it. I would think that the CT casino tribes would pay MA to stay casino free.
     
    But to your point, Jim, do I think that a casino will save Springfield, or The Student Prince??........NO
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    Re:~ Student Prince Bites the Dust (?) 2014/06/26 17:16:40 (permalink)
    Ninety percent of the cars in the parking lots of the OK and LA casinos have TX plates; doesn't bother us a bit. 
     
    In addition, somehow we get along without personal or corporate income taxes and still run immense annual surpluses that have enabled cuts in the taxes we do have and left over $10 billion in the 'rainy day fund' and a Texas Retirement System that is over-funded by billions more.
     
    Even mentioning casino gaming for Dallas is the political equivalent of letting a loud fart in church.  (And we still go to church down here - largely to those of the Calvinist variety). 
     
    From my nearly decade-long observation what the Texicans lack in the way of fancy ivy degrees, sophistication, and 'nuanced thought' they more than make up for in commonsense - and that includes the sense that even a bird-brain has in not shi*ting in their own nest. 
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    Re:~ Student Prince Bites the Dust (?) 2014/06/26 19:35:11 (permalink)
    On reflection, what I wrote above may seem a little mean-spirited.  Truth is, I am projecting more than a little bit of the pangs I feel for some of my old 'stomping grounds' in Western PA which have suffered dramatic declines over my lifetime - including, of course, the demise of several of my very favorite eateries.  Sadly, several locales have turned to gaming as a 'salvation'.  It really hasn't turned out so well and the unintended consequences only exacerbate the social rot.
     
    I know it must seem strange to some to long for the days when numbers runners were petty criminals who avoided honest work in the mills ... oh well, those days are long gone; today, it's our government that 'runs the numbers' - and keeps more than the Mob ever did.
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    Re:~ Student Prince Bites the Dust (?) 2014/06/29 09:45:20 (permalink)
    Oops, being that this was in the International Foods section, I thought it was about the Heidelberg Germany!
    Still, I hear from my friends in HD Germany there that many restaurants are also closing there, esp. in the suburbs where the US Army was situated. When the bases were closed a year or two ago, lots of local spots, pubs, Italian spots, etc. are shutting down. They depended on US transplants.
    Sad.
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    Re:~ Student Prince Bites the Dust (?) 2014/06/29 11:30:24 (permalink)
    I have been away from Springfield a long time.
    I'm in my eighties and was born at the Springfield Hospital.
    I remember some of the best restaurants now gone and not mentioned above.
    Does anyone remember the Canton Restaurant on Wortington street.
    Best Chinese food I ever had.Had a big dinner every New Years Eve and the mayor was always there
    Also the Highland Hotel restauant for lobster(steamed,stuffed,newburg and termador)
    Speaking of German, how about the old Turner Park club in East longmeadow I bet a lot of your parents and grandparents will tell you about it
    I could also mention Tintis and the Blue Star in Agawam
     
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