Sunday Gravy

I think gravy (brown, beef, chicken, etc.) is gravy in most of the country. It seems that in the Long Island metropolitan area, some Italian-Americans also call sauce (marinara, red, etc.) gravy. At least that's my experience.

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Originally posted by ScreenBear

Sundancer,
Certainly you've had marinara sauce (or, er, gravy) on pasta, n'est pas?
The Bear

You are correct. I was unaware that marinara sauce was a Sunday gravy but then again, the only gravy I knew was the kind I grew up within the south. Mamaw Smiths chicken, beef, pork, country fried steak, chicken, turkey or whatever.

As a matter of fact I had a great marinara sauce last evening at a Italian restaurant in Raleigh, NC. It was super. I had it as a side with my veal parma.

Paul E. Smith
Knoxville, TN

Heck over in Italy the don't even speak the same language from one village to the next although that is slowly changing. So I'm sure this gravey, sauce,salsa,intingolo della carne, is all regional. ciao chow Jim

As a matter of fact I had a great marinara sauce last evening at a Italian restaurant in Raleigh, NC. It was super. I had it as a side with my veal parma.

Paul E. Smith
Knoxville, TN

As a side? Maybe a side of fettucine marinara. Not, I hope, a side of sauce.

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Originally posted by Scallion1



As a matter of fact I had a great marinara sauce last evening at a Italian restaurant in Raleigh, NC. It was super. I had it as a side with my veal parma.

Paul E. Smith
Knoxville, TN

As a side? Maybe a side of fettucine marinara. Not, I hope, a side of sauce.


I had marinara with some pasta. Sorry that I did not fully explain although I think it would make a good dipping sauce with cheese bread or just plain bread.

Paul E. Smith
Knoxville, TN

It probably would, although I'd prefer the red sauce/ragu/Sunday sauce/red gravy stuff.
Tell you what would go real well: I used to get round loaves of provolone bread from a baker up on Arthur Avenue, the old Italian area of the Bronx. Toasted slices of that? Yessirree. And talk about making the world's best Caesar salad croutons....

Gravy is a particular interest of mine and just for the heck of it, I looked up some definitions and found that gravies and sauces vary from region to region and from country to country.

I think I would like all of them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravy

Paul E. Smith
Knoxville, TN

I just don't think I could ever in good conscience and under normal circumstances pay that much for one jar of spaghetti sauce. No matter how good it is.

I'd be hard pressed to justify paying even half of that, actually....

Yeah, but TJ, this is special Henry Hill marinara sauce. The same kind he made while he was in jail with the other mobsters. This is O-freakin'-FFICIAL Mob sauce...and nothing says Italian like the mob.

Henry Hill made this with his own hands...well, in the same way that Paul Newman makes that salad dressing.

If any sauce were worth $15/jar, this would have to be it.

Well, there's the slight matter of where the money goes. Last time I looked, Paul & Co. had donated about $150,000,000 to charity. Don't think H.Hill will ever be able to say that.

Last I checked, the mob's stereo-typical involvement with marinara sauce was on the consumption side rather than the preparation side

Nah.

5 bucks is about the limit for a jar of marinara, no matter how good, under normal circumstances. 7-8 with shipping.

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Originally posted by Scallion1

Well, there's the slight matter of where the money goes. Last time I looked, Paul & Co. had donated about $150,000,000 to charity. Don't think H.Hill will ever be able to say that.

I would be willing to bet that Hill has "donated" to a woman named "Charity" at one point or another!

TJ Jackson - Guess you're not acquainted with the career of former Providence Mayor, marinara manufacturer, and leg-breaker Buddy Cianci.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincent_Cianci,_Jr

Can't find the Mayor's Own Marinara Sauce available online, but Buddy's still a hero in Providence. "Rhode Island... Where only the Crime is Organized!"

Not in particular, no....like I said, everyone has an image of what the mafia is, and without knowing much about the subject, I'd still assume with nigh complete certainty that some members of the group....err, family....don't fit the stereotype at all.

I'm just saying (to SK et al) that I might pay more for a sauce made by a guy famous for making sauce rather than for a sauce made by a guy who is a member of a group famous for eating said sauce :-)

This is the best scam I've seen in a long time. Everytime some gullable soul orders a jar of Hills sauce he runs down to the local market gets whats on sale, scrapes off the old lable and replaces with his lable. Keeps the food and packaging cost way down about 97% profit not a bad gig. Chow Jim

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Originally posted by Jimeats

This is the best scam I've seen in a long time. Everytime some gullable soul orders a jar of Hills sauce he runs down to the local market gets whats on sale, scrapes off the old lable and replaces with his lable. Keeps the food and packaging cost way down about 97% profit not a bad gig. Chow Jim

Jim -- Your post is out of line and borderline libelous. From the Mirriam-Webster's Dictionary of Law:

NOTE: Although libel is defined under state case law or statute, the U.S. Supreme Court has enumerated some First Amendment protections that apply to matters of public concern. In New York Times Company v. Sullivan, the Court held that in order to recover damages a public person (as a celebrity or politician) who alleges libel (as by a newspaper) has to prove that “the statement was made with ‘actual malice’ — that is, with knowledge that it was false or with reckless disregard of whether it was false or not” in order to recover damages. The Court has also held that the states cannot allow a private person to recover damages for libel against a media defendant without a showing of fault (as negligence) on the defendant's part. These protections do not apply to matters that are not of public concern (as an individual's credit report) and that are not published by a member of the mass media. A libel plaintiff must generally establish that the alleged libel refers to him or her specifically, that it was published to others, and that some injury (as to reputation) occurred that gives him or her a right to recover damages (as actual, general, presumed, or special damages). The defendant may plead and establish the truth of the statements as a defense. Criminal libel may have additional elements, as in tending to provoke a breach of peace or in blackening the memory of someone who is dead, and may not have to be published to someone other than the person libeled.

Personally, I don't care for Mr. Hill; I think that $15 for a bottle of marinara is outrageous; and that anyone who would purchase one could be thought a fool. BUT, unless you have proof that he is purposely defrauding people by not making an authentic sauce, you might be careful about posting such nonsense.

Oh...and it is a "label" not a "lable" (twice is not a typo) and one would be called "gullible" not "gullable."

(steve's a college guy)

Thanks for the heads up Steve. I didn't mean to drag this good fella's reputation thru the mud, but I like living on the edge. If he wants to sue me he will have to get in line and I don't think he's got that much time on his hands. Chow Jim

Is it not "Ciao"?

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Originally posted by sunnyside up

Is it not "Ciao"?

Probably is Ciao if you are Italian but I think Jimeats is a "chow hound"

Paul E. smith
Knoxvillle, TN

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Originally posted by sunnyside up

Is it not "Ciao"?

Probably is Ciao if you are Italian but I think Jimeats is a "chow hound"

Paul E. smith
Knoxvillle, TN

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Originally posted by TJ Jackson

Last I checked, the mob's stereo-typical involvement with marinara sauce was on the consumption side rather than the preparation side

You clearly need to watch a few more Mafia movies. When they "go to the matresses", which is an all-male thing, somebody has to cook and there's always one guy who's a great pasta chef, often the Capo.

Then, of course, there's Tony Soprano's wife's famous baked ziti. Mangia!

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Originally posted by TJ Jackson

(steve's a college guy)

Come on...I would have thought you would like my "libel" --> "label" parallel.

Speaking of Tony Soprano, the only place I have ever heard the term gravy used in reference to a tomato based spaghetti sauce is on that show. I believe it is a New Jersey based term. My parents-in-law were from Italy and never called their sauce gravy, and I had many Sunday dinners there with pasta and the sauce with cooked cubes of beef.

"Gravy" seems to pop up in a variety of Italian-American strongholds. In R.I. in the 60s there were some neighborhoods where every meal had gravy on the table, and others where they had sauce. The sauce people generally considered the gravy people to be wrong.

Had a dish at a Superbowl Party - Eggplant Parmesean made with fried white Florida eggplant and one of Emeril's sauces called Sicilian Gravy. The hostess said that she doctors the sauce but it is a quality product made with fresh eggplant, no meats listed on the label. I haven't tried the sauce by itself but the dish was fantastic!

How about The Stones, sorta strange!