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2006/03/12 01:59:15 (permalink)

Sunny Side Eggs banned?

I went to a restaurant recently that had written on their menu that the board of health would not allow them to serve eggs sunny side up. The day before I had been to another restaurant nearby that served my egg sunny side up. What's up with that?
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    wheregreggeats.com
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    RE: Sunny Side Eggs banned? 2006/03/15 07:40:07 (permalink)
    I'll bet there is no local law ... the owner is just not willing to say "we are afraid to sell sunny side up eggs."

    BTW a sunny side up egg can be cooked pretty well through.


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    RE: Sunny Side Eggs banned? 2006/03/15 07:40:30 (permalink)
    These are probably the same people who wont serve a medium rare burger but will charge a fortune for a plate barely covered with bait. ..
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    RE: Sunny Side Eggs banned? 2006/03/15 09:53:51 (permalink)
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    Originally posted by wheregreggeats.com

    I'll bet there is no local law ... the owner is just not willing to say "we are afraid to sell sunny side up eggs."



    My guess, is that's exactly the short of it.
    How silly. Obviously, that restaurant believes that "sunny side up" means that one side doesn't turn white. Which is hooey.


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    RE: Sunny Side Eggs banned? 2006/03/15 12:02:56 (permalink)
    I recall a few years ago when New Jersey's department of health, or some other regulatory body there, imposed a regulation barring all restaurants from serving what it considered to be underdone eggs. That meant restaurants were not allowed to serve sunnyside, soft-scrambled or over-easy eggs. Thatlasted for just a short time, as the resulting egg anarchy and national ridicule came close to blowing the entire state government out of office. I seriously doubt that there is any law or regulation barring eggs the way you want them wherever you are, as such a step would never have escaped the scrutiny of the news media and word would have been spread far and wide about it.
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    RE: Sunny Side Eggs banned? 2006/03/15 12:50:44 (permalink)

    Posters,
    Stay on Topic.
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    RE: Sunny Side Eggs banned? 2006/03/15 16:14:58 (permalink)
    OK, so I guess there's no law or regulation, or maybe the dept of health is sloppy in enforcing rules? I went to IHOP this week and on their menu, they have a disclaimer at the bottom of the breakfast page saying that undercooked eggs may cause foodborne illness. I ordered "easy over" and they were quite runny.

    Which got me thinking--is it really necessary if the eggs are pastuerized?
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    RE: Sunny Side Eggs banned? 2006/03/15 16:36:59 (permalink)
    I have never heard of eggs being pasterized. If you brought them to that temp in the shell, wouldn't that be a boiled egg? If you did it outside the shell wouldn't that be a poached egg?

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    RE: Sunny Side Eggs banned? 2006/03/15 16:55:56 (permalink)
    Just to clarify, store bought mayo isn't cooked either. The eggs are pastuerized first, but technically neither mayo, nor the eggs, are cooked. And actually, pasteurized eggs have been on the market for a couple of years now , and that is what I use for homemade mayonnaise and other recipes calling for raw eggs.

    Pasteurized Eggs: Crystal Farms Pasteurized Eggs are safe to use for all recipes.

    Sixteen years after the first public warnings about raw eggs, pasteurized in-the-shell eggs make it possible to enjoy these favorite foods once again. (The special heating process kills any salmonella bacteria that may be present inside the egg.)

    pasteurized shell eggs that comply with the Model Food Code, requiring that only pasteurized eggs be served to risk groups (i.e. hospital and nursing homes patients, adults over 55, children and diabetics) and mandatingrestaurant menus to display warnings unless serving pasteurized eggs.
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    RE: Sunny Side Eggs banned? 2006/03/15 16:57:31 (permalink)
    The only time I've seen pasteurized eggs is when we buy "Easy Eggs". They are already cracked, blended, pasteurized and have some citric acid added. Basically they are for omelettes or scrambled on a brunch in a chafing dish. (Fresh eggs turn green, unless lemon juice is added) I have never seen sunny side eggs banned. But then, I don't eat eggs but I doubt that they would ban anything in Alaska!
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    RE: Sunny Side Eggs banned? 2006/03/15 17:09:27 (permalink)
    I have never heard of a pasteurized raw egg. I would think you would wind up with a soft boiled egg if you pasteurized it. I think there are many regulations regarding doneness in eggs but they are for the most part ignored.

    The e-coli threat is real, however and has always been real, considering the area of the hen the egg emerges from. Someone must have told Poindexter over at the Health Dept. that eggs do not originate spontaneously from cardboard cartons.

    Too bad, I guess you have to find a place that doesn't give a dang what Poindexter decrees, unless you want well done eggs.

    I love my eggs runny and gooey and have never had a problem.
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    RE: Sunny Side Eggs banned? 2006/03/15 22:43:13 (permalink)
    I dont understand what the big deal is either.Quite afew very good friends of mine are major health nuts and it is a daily regimen to drink raw eggs with fruit, whey protien, and yogurt, with a touch of wheat germ. They are still alive healthier than ever and been drinking raw eggs for over 20 some years! Go figure. Justanother cotroversial issue someone in the government is sitting around dreaming up.They are a pain in the watussi(spelling? oh well)sometimes.
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    RE: Sunny Side Eggs banned? 2006/03/15 23:00:32 (permalink)
    Andrea, it's like the old saying "Lawyers Guns and Money" If something happens that has anything to do with you whether or not you are neglegent and you have money, you pay big time.

    Another example is Odwalla juice. It used to be real but then one person out of 10 million got sick and boom now it's cooked. I juice carrots at home and happened to grab an Odwalla the other day and it tasted nothing like carrots so I looked at in ingredients........100 percent carrot juice
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    RE: Sunny Side Eggs banned? 2006/09/13 01:43:09 (permalink)
    Recently, on an episode of Good Eats, Alton Brown discussed pasteurized eggs while making mayo. The heat is not enough to cook the eggs in the shell, but sometimes, the egg white gets a little cloudy. Other than that, you can't tell the difference between them and regular raw eggs. E Coli is not the villain with eggs or poultry, it is salmonella that some birds carry that can make you ill. I hope this helps.
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    RE: Sunny Side Eggs banned? 2006/09/13 01:58:09 (permalink)
    It's certainly easy enough to thouroughly cook a sunnyside up egg...I do it by putting a lid on the pan while they cook... You can cook them to any stage of doneness/hardness that way.
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    RE: Sunny Side Eggs banned? 2006/09/13 02:50:35 (permalink)
    I've heard of this recently but not tried it. Also, 'eggs blindfolded,' - put a couple of ice cubes under the lid; the steam cooks the top of the eggs. Essentially eggs over-easy without having to flip them.

    (Takes some of the fun out of cooking eggs it seems to me ).
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    RE: Sunny Side Eggs banned? 2006/09/13 03:44:28 (permalink)
    Some people just don't know how to cook 'em! I got some once that were raw and cold! Cooked right, they are hot and cooked through.
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    RE: Sunny Side Eggs banned? 2006/09/13 07:22:46 (permalink)
    I agree-my dad used to make sunnyside up-and his yolks were always cooked..still soft enough to dunk the toast in.I think some of the health rules were brought in to place BECAUSE people do not know how to make them-plus the food nazis have been going after the poor egg for one reason or another for years...
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    RE: Sunny Side Eggs banned? 2006/09/13 08:26:39 (permalink)
    When eating breakfast out, thats the way I order them, always with a side of french fries and sometimes bacon. When that wonderful yolk blends with the fries and a nice amount of salt and pepper, it makes my morning.
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    RE: Sunny Side Eggs banned? 2006/09/13 09:08:32 (permalink)
    Hello All,
    The very first food I can remember eating as a child was an egg, sunny-side up.
    I can still see in my mind's eye my mother showing me how to dip a piece of bread
    into the yolk. What a flavour!
    Take Care,
    Fieldthistle
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    RE: Sunny Side Eggs banned? 2006/09/13 10:05:15 (permalink)
    Quite a few years ago we were refused sunny- side-up eggs at a restaurant in Wells,ME. A few days later we were back and were told the state health inspectors were out enforcing a silly rule about undercooked eggs. And we had been refused because the waitress thought we looked like health inspectors; otherwise we would have gotten our sunny-side-ups....

    Cheers, John
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    RE: Sunny Side Eggs banned? 2006/09/13 10:21:01 (permalink)
    Aye-uh, that's what you get in Maine when you flash them big city airs.
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    RE: Sunny Side Eggs banned? 2006/09/13 10:22:22 (permalink)
    seafarer - Exactly what does a Health Inspector look like?
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    RE: Sunny Side Eggs banned? 2006/09/13 18:57:56 (permalink)
    I worked at a little restaurant, and the cook wouldn't do sunny-side ups because he was cooking on a flat top grill and said it was too hard to cook them right on a flat-top.

    I later worked at another place where the cook did the "ice-cube with a lid" trick on the flat-top, and the eggs looked great.

    Sometimes I think it is more a preference of the cook, not health issues, although they tend to use it as an excuse.
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    RE: Sunny Side Eggs banned? 2006/09/13 19:17:20 (permalink)
    Never heard of ice-cube with a lid, but I know the lid trick, if you mean covering it up with a pot lid. I guess the ice cube adds steam?
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    RE: Sunny Side Eggs banned? 2006/09/13 19:20:46 (permalink)
    a teaspoon of water under the lid works just as well.
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    RE: Sunny Side Eggs banned? 2006/09/13 20:22:54 (permalink)
    I worked for Denny's out in Vegas and we never had any problem with sunnyside eggs or soft scrambled and we sold tons of them.
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    RE: Sunny Side Eggs banned? 2006/09/13 20:32:41 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by TheHotPepper.com

    Never heard of ice-cube with a lid, but I know the lid trick, if you mean covering it up with a pot lid. I guess the ice cube adds steam?


    Yep!
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    RE: Sunny Side Eggs banned? 2006/09/13 20:36:54 (permalink)
    I've been eating SS up eggs for a long time now with no problems. As long as the white isn't runny, I am OK. Have never been to a restaurant that refused to cook them this way, either.
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    RE: Sunny Side Eggs banned? 2006/09/13 21:23:51 (permalink)
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    Originally posted by SassyGritsAL

    seafarer - Exactly what does a Health Inspector look like?


    Well, in the 1950s he looked like a normal guy who was 5'10", 195 pounds, wearing boots and a silver-belly Stetson, with a .45-caliber Colt M1911 in a slide holster. At least that's what I looked like in Orange County, Texas.
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