Sundancer7
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I heard on CNN this morning that in the next few years, Teflon will be out due to emissions at high heat. I am not sure about the exact implications about this. It was indicated that the emissions from Teflon is now found in every species including whales.
I think I heard it will be gone by the year 2008. I am not sure but I believe it may be a product of Corning? Whoever produces it indicated that they realize the seriousness of the problem and will stop production.
Paul E. Smith
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BarbaraCt
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The people at Food Network advise you to put food in the pan as you heat it up. They pre-heat regular pans, but not teflon. Pre-heating an empty teflon pan gives off the most emissions. 
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PaulBPool
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While the issue of "emissions" from the actual use of Teflon has been debated for years, the news report this morning was on the process of MANUFACTURING Teflon. DuPont, which is the inventor, patent holder, and licensor of Teflon technology, has admitted that one of the components of Teflon is a hazard substance, and that the use of this component in making Teflon MAY present a public health hazard. Other manufacturers who make Teflon are in agreement with this assessment.
As of this date, DuPont says they do not have a substitute component to use in manufacturing Teflon, but that they are researching and testing many different compounds in the hopes of coming up with an acceptable substitute, which will provide both the slippery, durable surface, as well as being safe to work with.
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Catracks
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RE: Teflon
Thu, 01/26/06 10:02 AM
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My cast iron and stainless steel are perfectly non-stick. Before I inherited a good set of old pans, I went the trflon route. I was taught to preheat the pan and then add the oil. With teflon this does not work. It off-gases and smells! It simply cannot stand up to high heat and normal utensils. They would last a year if I was lucky. The pans I use now are 60-100 years old and get better with each use.
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BT
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RE: Teflon
Thu, 01/26/06 12:16 PM
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albinoni
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quote: As yet another non-stick alternative, we use a cast-iron frying pan. It is one that I bought when I got my first apartment, over 30 years ago, and it will last forever. Never need to worry about toxic chemicals escaping in the air or into food. Once cast iron is seasoned, it can be used just like any non-stick coated surface, with a minimum of oil. It can be used with very high heat, and is very versatile. We use it for everything, but it really good for grilling meat, especially boneless chicken breasts. Charlie
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Michael Hoffman
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The latest report I read -- this morning in the Columbus Dispatch -- DuPont and other maufacturers of Teflon are going to be doing away with a chemical known as C8, which is used in the manufacture of Teflon, but is not a component of Teflon. C8 is considered a cancer-causing agent. The EPA was about to order and end to the use of C8 by 2015, but DuPont and the others manufacturing Teflon under license from DuPont have agreed to stop using it much sooner.
By the way, those who are uncomfortable with Teflon better get rid of all their GoreTex. GoreTex is Teflon.
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BT
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quote:Originally posted by albinoni
As yet another non-stick alternative, we use a cast-iron frying pan. It is one that I bought when I got my first apartment, over 30 years ago, and it will last forever. Never need to worry about toxic chemicals escaping in the air or into food. Once cast iron is seasoned, it can be used just like any non-stick coated surface, with a minimum of oil. It can be used with very high heat, and is very versatile. We use it for everything, but it really good for grilling meat, especially boneless chicken breasts.
Charlie
There are a number of threads here extolling the virtues of cast iron (time for you newbies to learn how to work the "search" feature if you haven't already) and I, too, have a few heirloom and not-so-heirloom pieces I love. Also, I can vouch for the fact that the new Lodge "pre-seasoned" line works pretty well. But cast iron isn't for everybody (some people have trouble even lifting it) and every circumstance and it's for that reason that I suggested a line of non-Teflon but still nonstick and easy-care cookware that really works and is not nearly so heavy as cast iron. Meanwhile, as for Teflon, Michael is right--a chemical used in its manufacture is being phased out, but Dupont assures they will be able to keep making it: quote:DuPont Agrees to EPA Request
To Phase Out Teflon Compound
By STEVE LEVINE
Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
January 26, 2006; Page A2
The Environmental Protection Agency asked eight chemical makers to voluntarily halt their use of a chemical used in the production of Teflon and other nonstick products, and DuPont Co. said it will commit to the request.
The agency asked the companies to gradually reduce the use of perfluorooctanoic acid, or PFOA, which is used in the manufacturing of nonstick cookware, waterproofing products and some fast-food containers. Some studies link PFOA to cancers in animals, but the EPA hasn't determined that the chemical poses a risk for humans. DuPont said its studies indicate that cookware and other consumer products made using PFOA are safe for consumers.
DuPont is the only U.S. producer of PFOA. The other seven companies buy the substance from DuPont and a couple of non-U.S. chemical companies, and they use it to produce a variety of household products. By focusing on the eight companies, the EPA would eliminate more than three-quarters of the use of PFOA globally, leaving China as the largest remaining producer of the substance, according to DuPont officials.
The EPA asked the eight companies to reduce their use of PFOA by 95% by 2010 and to eliminate it by 2015. The other companies are 3M/Dynean Co., a unit of 3M Co., St. Paul, Minn.; Paris-based Arkema Inc.; Japan's AGC Chemicals/Asahi Glass; Switzerland's Ciba Specialty Chemicals Holding Inc.; Switzerland-based Clariant Corp.; Japan's Daikin Industries Ltd.; and Italy's Solvay Solexis.
A 3M spokesman said the company plans to respond in writing to the request, but also said it had already begun a PFOA phase-out in 2000 and "this tracks what we're already doing." The other companies were unavailable to comment.
Last month, the EPA imposed a $10.25 million fine, the largest civil penalty in its history, on DuPont as part of a settlement of charges that the company hid information on PFOA. DuPont failed to report that it knew in 1981 that a mother had transferred PFOA residues in her body to her fetus during her pregnancy. As part of the settlement, DuPont announced that it would reduce its emissions of the substance by 98%, and it said yesterday that it had already reached the 94% mark. In a statement, the Wilmington, Del., company said it will stop using PFOA altogether. The company said it can continue to make its products without using PFOA.
DuPont still faces issues surrounding PFOA. A U.S. federal grand jury has subpoenaed documents from the company regarding the substance. DuPont could have to pay as much as $235 million if a $5 million study funded by the company finds a probable link between exposure to the chemical and any diseases.
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tmiles
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RE: Teflon
Fri, 01/27/06 12:25 PM
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Mad Money (CNBC) last night had talk about this. The host was pushing a stock for a company that makes a replacement for Teflon/PFOA. I didn't understand what he was talking about, or if the new product replaces PFOA in the Teflon, but he has a good track record for picking stocks. I was just glad to hear that there will BE a replacement.
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BT
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quote:Originally posted by tmiles
Mad Money (CNBC) last night had talk about this. The host was pushing a stock for a company that makes a replacement for Teflon/PFOA. I didn't understand what he was talking about, or if the new product replaces PFOA in the Teflon, but he has a good track record for picking stocks. I was just glad to hear that there will BE a replacement.
I listened to Jim rave on and thought, perhaps, he was confused--certainly he was confusing (too much sauteed bear meat?). As the article I posted says, "The company (Dupont) said it can continue to make its products (i.e. Teflon) without using PFOA." Presumeably, it will use the replacement from the company Jim was touting--or maybe not. Anyway, I'm a faithful fan of Mad Money but I think he was stretching for that one, or at least he didn't present the story straight (sometimes claiming they were going to stop making Teflon, sometimes more accurately saying they were going to use something else rather than PFOA in it). On the other hand, I think he was right on about CVS and I bought some today (after it came down a little from the gap up his recommendations always produce). I had my eye on that one already and for just the reasons he gave.
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V960
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Except for teflon tape I have none on my place. Had one of my employees banned from RJR FOREVER for having a spool in his truck. Turns out it finds its way into a cigarette you have about two steps before it kills you.
Nonstick around here means a Griswold pan over fifty years old.
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Catracks
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quote:By the way, those who are uncomfortable with Teflon better get rid of all their GoreTex. GoreTex is Teflon. I don't cook in my boots. 
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BT
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quote:Originally posted by V960
[brit finds its way into a cigarette you have about two steps before it kills you.
Which? The teflon or the cigarette? Worrying about the health risks of teflon while smoking seems a bit confused to me.
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