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Re:Texas franchises coming soon to you ... 2013/09/18 09:07:08 (permalink)
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Whattaburger here forever (since early 80s here in Tally, one with original A frame building still standing.)  Still cooked to order.  Taquitos are a major breakfast item, especially with grilled onions & grilled veggie mix aka from grilled Chicken Tacos.  Those are excellent.  The Patty Melts remain a strong contender, and I have also heard that WB will soon introduce a mushroom & swiss cheeseburger and/or patty melt.  You cannot be wrong with that.  The string fries are superior, as well as their red and green picante sauces and spicy ketchup.  You cannot go wrong with anything ordered @ WB.


Even though we are surrounded by Whattaburgers here in McKinney I can only recall four times we have eaten there in the past eight years.  The last time - several years ago - I got a truly dry burger and never went back. 
 
After reading your review maybe I should give them another chance; their TV ads are the most "appetizing" of any here in Texas.  And, they are superior to "McWendyKing", or, as Anthony Bourdain recently called them: "the creepy king, the clown, and the crone"; he certainly has a way with words.
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Re:Texas franchises coming soon to you ... 2013/09/22 16:28:33 (permalink)
That old tradition of a "deluxe" burger having mayo, lettuce and tomato is kept alive at Atlanta's Varsity, where you have to order a "glorified" burger to get a garden with your patty.
 
A glorified burger with pimento cheese is just about my favorite junk fast food in the world.
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Re:Texas franchises coming soon to you ... 2013/09/25 16:42:52 (permalink)
I recently tried the Dickey's that opened in Frederick, ranks right up there with BK, Taco Bell.
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Re:Texas franchises coming soon to you ... 2013/09/25 18:17:35 (permalink)
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I recently tried the Dickey's that opened in Frederick, ranks right up there with BK, Taco Bell.


But, they do offer more protein per $ spent. 
And, one certainly cannot accuse them of having too much butterfat in their "free" soft serve.
 
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Re:Texas franchises coming soon to you ... 2014/08/09 19:17:58 (permalink)
I just read that two of the more "upscale" Texas franchises are coming soon to Oklahoma City. Pappadeaux (based in Houston) and Texas de Brazil (based in Dallas) will both be opening here sometime next year.
 
Metro, have you had any experience with these two places? Should we be excited?
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Re:Texas franchises coming soon to you ... 2014/08/09 21:12:31 (permalink)
Dickey's opened several locations here in SoCal. They are all closed now. 
 
I want to see what MetroplexJim has to say about Texas de Brazil. From what I have seen it looks really good.
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Re:Texas franchises coming soon to you ... 2014/08/10 03:39:12 (permalink)
I like that everything is cooked to order, but for a drive-thru, fast food experience, their prices were much higher than their competition and took a long while to prepare each order.

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Re:Texas franchises coming soon to you ... 2014/08/10 10:26:47 (permalink)
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I just read that two of the more "upscale" Texas franchises are coming soon to Oklahoma City. Pappadeaux (based in Houston) and Texas de Brazil (based in Dallas) will both be opening here sometime next year.
 
Metro, have you had any experience with these two places? Should we be excited?



Yes.
And yes.
 
The Pappas family out of Houston owns and operates a variety of restaurants, including what most agree are the best steakhouses in Dallas and Houston (and that's 'sayin' sumpim'!). 
 
Pappadeaux is their upper middle (way above Red Lobster, but a cut below Oceanaire) seafood house.  It is good, damn good in fact.
 
 
Texas be Brazil is one of the 'big two' Brasilian Steakhouse chains, a.k.a. churrascaria; the other is Fogo de Chao which came from Brasil and established the U.S. model at the 'high end' rather than the 'lower middle' as most such establishments are in their native Brasil. 
 
Both are A.Y.C.E. of excellent cuts of a wide variety of grilled meats and spectacular salad bars which include shellfish and deli cuts of meats & cheeses.  For those with big appetites and fat wallets, these are heaven on earth.
 
Enjoy! 
 
 
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Re:Texas franchises coming soon to you ... 2014/08/10 11:01:40 (permalink)
Love them both...we have a Pappadeaux (the only Chicago location) about 1 mile from the house.  It is one of the largest grossing in the companies portfolio.  I use Texas de Brazil for maintenance staff dinners where I always feel my table of big boys beats any other table in the place that night...the cards always come up green! 
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Re:Texas franchises coming soon to you ... 2014/08/10 12:01:48 (permalink)
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I like that everything is cooked to order, but for a drive-thru, fast food experience, their prices were much higher than their competition and took a long while to prepare each order.


Steak & Shake had the same problem when they first opened, but waiting an extra couple of minutes at the drive-thru and paying a bit more is well worth what you get. Fresh, prepared to order food of a higher quality is pretty much always better unless you're broke.
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Re:Texas franchises coming soon to you ... 2014/08/10 14:15:48 (permalink)
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I just read that two of the more "upscale" Texas franchises are coming soon to Oklahoma City. Pappadeaux (based in Houston) and Texas de Brazil (based in Dallas) will both be opening here sometime next year.
 
Metro, have you had any experience with these two places? Should we be excited?



Yes.
And yes.
Enjoy!

 
Thanks for the info! I'll definitely have to try them once they open.


As for other Texas chains, Golden Chick just opened in the town I live in. I didn't even realize they started out in San Marcos (where my brother lives) until I looked it up. I've only eaten there once (had the catfish) and thought it was OK. Really good iced tea, though!
 
Texadelphia is yet another Texas chain that has a location in OKC. It seems pretty popular, but I've never been as of yet.
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Re:Texas franchises coming soon to you ... 2014/08/10 14:36:30 (permalink)
And don't forget Chicken Express, started in a Ft. Worth suburb in 1988 - now 160 locations and exploding!
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Re:Texas franchises coming soon to you ... 2014/08/12 17:33:37 (permalink)
Another Texas chain currently under construction in north OKC is Plano-based Zoës Kitchen, a fast-casual concept featuring Mediterranean cuisine. Interestingly, there are already a couple of Colorado-based Garbanzo Mediterranean Grill locations open here. They seem to be very similar in concept, food, and even decor!
 
I doubt if I'll ever give either a try; too many excellent locally owned places to choose from.
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Re:Texas franchises coming soon to you ... 2014/08/12 19:42:00 (permalink)
The ONE thing I enjoy MOST about living in Texas is that here entrepreneurship is alive and thriving.
 
A petty example (in the larger sense of things that matter like Howard R. Hughes, Sr.'s development of the rotary drill bit) of this is Phil Romano's recent venture, a restaurant incubator. 
 
Trinity Groves is a 90 acre site dedicated to birthing new food concepts, the foodie equivalent to Edison's 'invention factory' in Menlo Park, NJ.
 
Check out the new places already operating there.  Doubtless, you'll have one or more local to you in the next five years or so.
 
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Re:Texas franchises coming soon to you ... 2014/08/17 00:58:11 (permalink)
MetroplexJim, have you ever eaten at Whiskey Cake in Plano? I wouldn't call it a "chain" yet since they have only one other location: in OKC. They seem to have started a trend because:
 
I read on the internet today that a restaurant called Napa Flats Wood-fired Kitchen will be opening a location in Tulsa. They currently only have the original location in College Station.
 
Interesting menus at both places.
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Re:Texas franchises coming soon to you ... 2014/08/17 09:42:49 (permalink)
We haven't tried The Whiskey Café and probably won't simply because there are so many interesting choices nearer to us that we have yet to try, e.g., another Texas starter chain, The Black Walnut Café which is only three miles away.
 
The nearly 7MM of us here in the Metroplex have more restaurant seats per capita than any other metro-area.  Maybe that's because most are so busy working in this "what recession?" economy we don't have time to cook.
 
Even to the casual observer there is no doubt as to the nature of the goose that lays the golden eggs:  the entrepreneur.  Down here we  our 'millionaires and billionaires' because they, as Adam Smith observed, promote ends which are no part of their (perhaps) selfish intention:  high-paying jobs and a thriving economy that has lifted all boats.  In their dotage they build hospitals, museums, research centers, stadiums, performing arts centers, etc. that are the envy of the world.
 
And, with no state income tax, we common folk have the extra $$$ to eat out - so there is no end of Phil Romano-types who are willing to risk their resources in new food concepts.
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Re:Texas franchises coming soon to you ... 2014/08/17 13:43:53 (permalink)
MetroplexJim,
I was going to challenge your restaurant seats per capita claim but then I found this.
http://ezinearticles.com/?Which-City-Really-Does-Have-The-Most-Restaurants-Per-Capita&id=367316
HOWEVER, as a State, Texas ranks 30th!
http://www.statemaster.com/graph/lif_res_percap-lifestyle-resturants-per-capita
BUT we do have you beat on Firearms Death Rate per 100,000.
We're #5 and TX is only 26th!
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Re:Texas franchises coming soon to you ... 2014/08/17 20:41:49 (permalink)
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BUT we do have you beat on Firearms Death Rate per 100,000.
We're #5 and TX is only 26th!

Criminals here know that the 'best case' outcome of crimes against a Texas household is an all expense paid extended vacation in Huntsville. 
 
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Re:Texas franchises coming soon to you ... 2015/01/17 19:46:15 (permalink)
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We haven't tried The Whiskey Café and probably won't simply because there are so many interesting choices nearer to us that we have yet to try, e.g., another Texas starter chain, The Black Walnut Café which is only three miles away.
 

 
Guess what is currently under construction in north 
Edmond, just a few miles from me? Yep, a Black Walnut Cafe. Interesting menu, will have to try it.


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Re:Texas franchises coming soon to you ... 2015/01/21 17:27:37 (permalink)
Mooya's isn't close to me and while there is a Dickey's in San Antonio I think,I just go to either Bill Miller's BBq (San Antonio chain) or to Harmon's in Cibolo which is a mom and pop bbq joint in an old brick store building two miles from me. No Fuzzy Tacos here.And in the Lincoln Heights Shopping Center in San Antonio there is some taco outfit from Austin coming in,but don't recall the name. I like the Patty Melt at Whataburger best.
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Re:Texas franchises coming soon to you ... 2015/01/21 18:23:49 (permalink)
Only new Texas style place we've got around is a Chuy's that opened in our big mall in town. Haven't been there, as I really like my local hole in the Wall Mexican place.
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Re:Texas franchises coming soon to you ... 2015/01/22 23:51:08 (permalink)
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Mooya's isn't close to me and while there is a Dickey's in San Antonio I think,I just go to either Bill Miller's BBq (San Antonio chain) or to Harmon's in Cibolo which is a mom and pop bbq joint in an old brick store building two miles from me. No Fuzzy Tacos here.And in the Lincoln Heights Shopping Center in San Antonio there is some taco outfit from Austin coming in,but don't recall the name. I like the Patty Melt at Whataburger best.


Bill Miller's was good when I tried it. I agree on the Patty Melt.
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Re:Texas franchises coming soon to you ... 2015/01/23 09:01:51 (permalink)
We tried the Chuy's here in Clarksville, IN with Poverty Pete not long ago, for a quick lunch meeting. Food was decent, reminding me a lot of the food and ambience of the old ChiChi's chain at it's Prime.
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Re:Texas franchises coming soon to you ... 2015/09/05 21:13:54 (permalink)
Well, my little town just got Indiana's first, and so far only, Mooyah's and we went out and got some burgers there tonight. They're on a par with 5 Guys, pricewise, but they have more choices for toppings on your burgers. The burgers themselves are pretty good. They season the meat as it's cooking, (which too many places don't) and it came off the grill with a good bit of flavour. A good selection of cheeses, for those that want cheeseburgers. I had cheddar and the kids got bleu cheese. All in all a pretty darned good burger. Better than 5 Guys. The fries were also pretty good. Fresh cut, crisp and creamy on the inside. They even have decent shakes, (not as good as a Steak and Shake shake, but decent). Service was a bit slow, but they were a little busy, newly opened and they cook to order. No pre-made burgers here. If I had one critical issue with them it would be the same as I have with most fast food burger joints. They squish the meat on the grill. Wish they'd all set that particular technique aside for good. All in all Mooyah's was a pretty good burger, if a bit pricey. We'll probably return at some point. They even have an "iceburger", bunless burger for the wheat intolerant like my wife. She was happy with hers.
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Re:Texas franchises coming soon to you ... 2015/09/06 18:19:32 (permalink)
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We tried the Chuy's here in Clarksville, IN with Poverty Pete not long ago, for a quick lunch meeting. Food was decent, reminding me a lot of the food and ambience of the old ChiChi's chain at it's Prime.




I met Poverty Pete shortly before he passed so unexpectedly.  We enjoyed a dinner at a local Texas chain, Uncle Julio's which also trades as the Rio Grande Café in other states.  He was a big fan of Tex-Mex and was especially fond of Chuy's, an Austin-based chain which is quickly going national like Chili's and On the Border before it.
 
Here are a few more Texas-based chains which may make it nationally:  Posada's, El Fenix, Luna de Noche, Mi Cocina, Cristina's, Gloria's, Abuelo's ... almost too many to name!
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Re:Texas franchises coming soon to you ... 2015/09/06 18:29:54 (permalink)
There's an Abuelo's here. It replaced a McDonald's that was billed by McDonald's as their biggest store.
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Re:Texas franchises coming soon to you ... 2015/09/06 18:43:47 (permalink)
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Well, my little town just got Indiana's first, and so far only, Mooyah's and we went out and got some burgers there tonight. They're on a par with 5 Guys, pricewise, but they have more choices for toppings on your burgers. The burgers themselves are pretty good. They season the meat as it's cooking, (which too many places don't) and it came off the grill with a good bit of flavour. A good selection of cheeses, for those that want cheeseburgers. I had cheddar and the kids got bleu cheese. All in all a pretty darned good burger. Better than 5 Guys. The fries were also pretty good. Fresh cut, crisp and creamy on the inside. They even have decent shakes, (not as good as a Steak and Shake shake, but decent). Service was a bit slow, but they were a little busy, newly opened and they cook to order. No pre-made burgers here. If I had one critical issue with them it would be the same as I have with most fast food burger joints. They squish the meat on the grill. Wish they'd all set that particualr technique aside for good. All in all Mooyah's was a pretty good burger, if a bit pricey. We'll probably return at some point. They even have an "iceburger", bunless burger for the wheat intolerant like my wife. She was happy with hers.




About a year before Five Guys opened their first Texas store Mooyah opened its first store in Plano, TX. They were a 100% direct rip-off of Five Guys, right down to store design, store décor, color scheme, menu, menu board, web-site, advertising strategy, fresh cut fries fried in peanut oil, tin foil wrap, paper bags ... even the in-the-shell peanuts!  The only 'differentiation' I could see was that Mooyah offered shakes and Five Guys didn't.
 
I wrote Jerry Murrell and he got his lawyers after them.  Even with a few tweaks, Mooyah's remains a major-league intellectual property thief and much to my disgust has gone nation-wide and even international in 8 short years.
 
This says it all:
 

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Re:Texas franchises coming soon to you ... 2015/09/06 19:40:48 (permalink)
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So... you were expecting a plain meat patty between two slices of white bread?  Au natural?

I was expecting a hamburger on toast or a hamburger bun. That's what you got when you ordered a hamburger where I grew up, in the city where the hamburger was invented. A "Deluxe" burger came with lettuce and tomato, and you paid extra for it.

Yep.same on Cape Cod.although "deluxe" usually included fries.sometimes called a deluxe burger "plate"
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Re:Texas franchises coming soon to you ... 2015/09/06 21:06:46 (permalink)
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There's an Abuelo's here. It replaced a McDonald's that was billed by McDonald's as their biggest store.


 
Yep.  Abuelo's is a national chain in fourteen states.
 
http://www.abuelos.com/locations/
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Re:Texas franchises coming soon to you ... 2015/09/07 10:00:35 (permalink)
The mention of (then) Minneapolis-based Chi-Chi's brings back some good eating/dining memories.  Even though they closed their last U.S. restaurant a decade ago they are still operating internationally and their products are still available in grocery stores.
 
In the early '80's they were all the rage and had spectacular growth.  Living then in NoVa, we went often.  They had three HUGE restaurants within five or so miles of each other in Springfield, Alexandria (Duke & The Shirley), and Bailey's Crossroads.  They all were packed all the time -- for a while.  When the novelty wore off and their volumes dropped their overhead crushed them.
 
These days it is rare to see a chain Mexican place on that grand a scale.  So far as I have seen, only Uncle Julio's, based here in Dallas, dares to go as far over the top with truly huge eateries
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