The 20 Best Steaks in America

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RE: The 20 Best Steaks in America 2008/09/03 12:51:47 (permalink)
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True...that's the whole point of going to a restaurant...to have some one else cook for you with their expertise!!!!



Any Roadfooder is always invited to my house. What expertise does it take to cook a great steak anyway? When I go out to a restaurant (which is rare in this day and age) I usually order something I that never make at home. A nice crispy piece of duck or perhaps some venison. I'm a cheapskate.... what can I say?


I don't think it takes expertise to cook a great steak, but some of the great steak restaurants have more powerful ovens than we tend to have in our homes, which can make a big difference in getting the meat right, in my opinion. In addition, before I'd come to your home for steak, I'd like to know where you got the steak, how long it had aged, etc. The great steakhouses tend to get their steaks from the top cattle, and take great pains to age the steak for a certain amount of time after they buy it.

Also, I notice most steaks at the grocery store are choice, not prime. I suppose one could get prime steaks if they don't run a restaurant, but I seldom have had that opportunity. No offense, but if you're serving choice, I'd prefer a hot dog.
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RE: The 20 Best Steaks in America 2008/09/03 13:00:53 (permalink)
I do agree with danimal, you may be a great home cook, but top restaurants will have access to quality cuts of meat you'll be hard pressed to find at your typical grocery store.

Having said that, I haven't ordered a steak at a restaurant in years. I tend to order whatever is unusual or unique on the menu.
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RE: The 20 Best Steaks in America 2008/09/03 13:15:02 (permalink)
I am not sure about his list but I do agree on one thing. The price of corn has risen significantly. The steaks that I enjoy are certainly going to cost a lot more.

It is true that corn fed beef adds more marbeling or fat where Argentine steak which is fed on blue stem grass is much more lean. I personally prefer a good marbled steak. Marbled steak is brought about by fat which is corn fed and that is going to cost more.

I think any kind of beef is going to cost a whole lot more just like gas.

Best steak at what restaurant is somewhat subjective don't you think?

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RE: The 20 Best Steaks in America 2008/09/08 13:21:48 (permalink)
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I do agree with danimal, you may be a great home cook, but top restaurants will have access to quality cuts of meat you'll be hard pressed to find at your typical grocery store.

Having said that, I haven't ordered a steak at a restaurant in years. I tend to order whatever is unusual or unique on the menu.


I agree with you, most home cooks do not have access to the quality of meat the top steakhouses in the country get, especially the ones that dry age their beef on site(David Burkes).

However, you can level the playing field, I order some specialty cuts from Allen Brothers, and the rest of the time I get prime beef cut to order from my local butcher. It isnt cheap, but its the way to go.
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RE: The 20 Best Steaks in America 2008/09/08 16:38:54 (permalink)
We can still get beautiful tenderloins at my local butcher for 7.99lb.They will trim them and cut them as you wish.Bob and I are considering ordering a couple and freezing them before corn prices force Karl( Karls Market) to raise his prices.Our local grocery chain sells tenderloin for 12.99lb, and has NO taste at all...By the way, I found out how my favorite steakhouse prepares their steaks-they char them on a very high temperature, and then finish them off by baking them-each with a thermometer stuck in them.I may try that..
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RE: The 20 Best Steaks in America 2008/09/08 16:50:43 (permalink)
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We can still get beautiful tenderloins at my local butcher for 7.99lb.They will trim them and cut them as you wish.Bob and I are considering ordering a couple and freezing them before corn prices force Karl( Karls Market) to raise his prices.Our local grocery chain sells tenderloin for 12.99lb, and has NO taste at all...By the way, I found out how my favorite steakhouse prepares their steaks-they char them on a very high temperature, and then finish them off by baking them-each with a thermometer stuck in them.I may try that..


By the time you Char them on the outside mine would be done. LOL ...Russ
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RE: The 20 Best Steaks in America 2008/09/08 17:49:12 (permalink)
Good point, Russ!
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RE: The 20 Best Steaks in America 2008/09/08 19:28:10 (permalink)
Ann & Russ - that sure seems like an excellent idea because you will get the exterior you are looking for and perfect doneness for the customer. At $40 for a steak (maybe more?) you cannot afford to have returns that are too well done. Most of these broiler guys are real specialists, but maybe these steak houses have come up with a better way? Maybe it is hard to still find a good broiler guy?

Chefs do finish most of their entrees in the oven so why not a steak too?

I'm wondering what type of thermometer they are using that can withstand 800 degree temps. Anyone know?
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RE: The 20 Best Steaks in America 2008/09/16 18:59:46 (permalink)
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If there's not even one mention of Chicago, I'm going to simply ignore it. I can't stand those East Coast magazines that think everything between New York and California is a vast wasteland just to fly over.

With the exception of New Orleans it is a vast wasteland. And then there's California, which doesn't reach the mark that would elevate it to the status of a good wasteland.


After years of living in McLean, VA and after having enjoyed Peter Luger's, The Palm, and The Prime Rib many times, I'm happily wallowing in the wasteland here in Dallas - desperately clinging to my guns and my bible except when we go out for a great steak. No guns are allowed in Dallas restaurants. Bibles are permitted, but I leave mine at home with the guns as its admonition against gluttony causes unwelcome cognitive dissonance!
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RE: The 20 Best Steaks in America 2008/09/17 12:34:56 (permalink)
ROFL at cognitive dissonance! I am surprised (well, not really, considering the source) that the article did not include[url='http://www.bernssteakhouse.com/']Bern's Steak House[/url] in Tampa, Florida. Too many reasons to even state why it ought to be on the list. Before I go on, let me reassure all readers that any subsequent text doesn't refer to the average folks anywhere in the country. It's just these know-it-all guys and gals that get under my skin, and the fact that so many seem to take their words as gospel.

It's almost like there's an innate assumed superiority of many commentators and authors out on both coasts who are allegedly "in the know" just because of their location. Being from New York, DC, LA or San Francisco do not automatically imbue them with authority in anything in my view, much less food. I've been in these locations on business, and had some pretty decent steaks, at pretty ridiculous prices. Smith & Wollensky's steaks were pretty darn good, but at those prices, they ought to be. I also had a %50 steak at the Outback in Manhattan that was plain awful. To be honest, I've had better steaks here in flyover-land at a third the cost.

As MiamiDon says, it's another list of one guy's opinion. It's another elitist New Yorker feelgood piece by someone posing as an authority. Sorry for the rant, it's just a sore point.
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RE: The 20 Best Steaks in America 2008/09/17 15:05:37 (permalink)
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As MiamiDon says, it's another list of one guy's opinion. It's another elitist New Yorker feelgood piece by someone posing as an authority. Sorry for the rant, it's just a sore point.

what gives you the impression that this writer is "elitist", or that he fancies himself an authority? or a New Yorker, for that matter. seems like he's eaten at a wide range of steakhouses across the country. i'm guessing more-so than most of his readers.
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RE: The 20 Best Steaks in America 2008/09/17 23:10:01 (permalink)
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As MiamiDon says, it's another list of one guy's opinion. It's another elitist New Yorker feelgood piece by someone posing as an authority. Sorry for the rant, it's just a sore point.

what gives you the impression that this writer is "elitist", or that he fancies himself an authority? or a New Yorker, for that matter. seems like he's eaten at a wide range of steakhouses across the country. I'm guessing more-so than most of his readers.

I will stipulate that I might have 'over-expressed' my feelings in this regard. I in no way meant to offend anyone, and in retrospect cannot verify in print that he is a New Yorker. It just seems that more often than not such reviews are expressed as fact. Witness from the opening paragraph of this review - "a definitive list of the twenty best steaks in America.

There is no doubt he is an authority on food, he is widely published and distributed in books and magazines. But it remains that one man's definitive list is another's mere text. I still find it presumptuous for any one person to proclaim theirs the "definitive list." Let's consider the rest of my comments general feelings, and as such, should not have been attributed to this writer. Mea culpa.
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