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The Travelin Man
Filet Mignon
2005/07/26 18:08:39
http://www.gq.com/food-travel/alan-richman/200602/hamburger-death-eat

I like this article. I don't agree with every one, but I like the fact that a magazine for guys takes the time to rank things. Guys need things ranked. It makes for debate -- and mostly, it makes things easy for us to understand. I am pretty sure that is why they do it that way with college basketball teams (they play a championship game, so wouldn't that be the team that is #1 anyway?).

Anyway, Louis Lunch is a burger that is discussed here frequently, but I have never had the opportunity to try. I will have a Peter Luger burger the next time I am in NY (actually a convenient stop for me for lunch). I had heard that their burger excelled, but have not had the chance to try one yet. I am also planning on hitting more of the CA and TX places on my next trips there.

I am a little surprised to see Houston (and Texas, in general) underrepresented in their list. I have always found Houston to be a great city for beef - and burgers, specifically.

One other thing that I thought about this list -- it is not necessarily the 20 best burgers. These are the 20 that the writer thinks that you should eat before you die -- could be because of something unique. I have one for that category, but I need to dig up the name of the place and I will post it.
post edited by The Travelin Man - 2013/05/28 10:41:11
mayor al
Fire Safety Admin
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/07/26 18:28:10

I am not sure, but if I were to hazard a guess I would estimate that I am fairly well removed from the demographic target group of the author of this article/survey/sampler. Much like my ignorance of the Wine-World I don't feel that not having visited any of the listed places, and in fact only having heard, in another context, of ONE of the 20 (Lugar's) places me at a disadvantage when it comes to an understanding of the Burger World. Given a few days to burp up the reminders of places of quality, I may be able to generate a list of my own.
signman
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/07/26 18:44:12
Well, I've at least heard of 5 of these places, but have only eaten at White Mana in NJ. And for me it was not that memorable. Anyone ever heard of the number one pick Le Tub. I'll be near there in the fall and would check it out.
The Travelin Man
Filet Mignon
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/07/26 18:58:32
Al, I am afraid my days of being a GQ guy are probably a little behind me, too.

As I said, I am sure that this list includes some burgers to eat for the sake of the experience. Me, I would rather have a good burger.

As far as Le Tub, I will be down in that area at the end of August, and I am making a point to go and check it out. I did some research and found this article: http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/entertainment/dining/12018664.htm?template=contentModules/printstory.jsp

Sounds like it could be a win -- but almost $10 for a burger in FL seems a little high.

I only hope that I can find the name of the place I ate this past weekend with a burger that would give most folks a coronary for about five bucks!

Steve
mayor al
Fire Safety Admin
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/07/26 19:20:34

We can ask Seafarer john about the Burgers He is still on the top of the list for "G Q"...That's "Greypower Quarterly"
tacchino
Double Cheeseburger
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/07/26 19:40:39
Don't know where the author got his list of places to try, but consistently here in New York, from one local reviewer to another, the best hamburger is always alleged to be from the Corner Bistro, in Greenwich Village (Peter Luger's being in a world apart, of course).

I always wonder if these authors are given preconceived notions of where and what to try, even if they claim to do "random" tests, because they rarely seem to agree with any other lists...guess it's another way to sell magazines...

6star
Filet Mignon
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/07/26 21:07:19
An interesting column by Michael Mayo in the South Florida Sun-Sentinal (7/7/05):

At Hollywood’s Le Tub, the livin’ is no longer easy

The parking lot was full, the grill was at capacity and John Petrie grunted to nobody in particular, "Out of meat -- again." He grabbed a bowl of chopped sirloin from a cooler and started mixing another batch of burgers for a lunch crowd that just wouldn't quit. Behind the bar, Kellie Pilgreen kept slicing Vidalia onions, but it looked like he might take the knife to his wrist at any moment. "This used to be a nice little hideaway bar," Pilgreen said Wednesday. "The summers used to belong to us. Not any more." Waves of customers kept crashing in, sweat poured from harried waiters, a newly scrawled Help Wanted sign hung near the front entrance.

This is what happens when GQ magazine names you the best burger in the country. Most places would be thrilled by the honor. Le Tub isn't most places. They don't take credit cards, don't have tap beer, don't want to hear your complaints about the flies, roaches or wharf rats that might come your way. Here, on the lapping waters of the Intracoastal in Hollywood, cool has always meant indifference bordering on rudeness, not hipness or trendiness. Here, you still have a better chance finding the sign warning, "Unattended children will be used as fish bait," than any self-aggrandizing banners proclaiming, "As seen in GQ!"

"Excuse me, if we sit out on the patio, can we bring in our puppy?" one hapless newcomer asked Wednesday. "No pets," Pilgreen said. "Oh, then can we look at a takeout menu?" he asked. "No takeout," Pilgreen said. "Guess we're not going to be able to give you our business," he said, as if anyone would care. "See ya," Pilgreen said. The brusqueness is part of the charm, one reason why I've been coming here for 16 years, since moving to South Florida. That, and the view, the jukebox, pool tables, rum runners and 4 a.m. closing time. Oh, and those burgers ain't bad either.

In a land of fleeting transience, Le Tub has endured. So, the regulars and staff can only hope that this too shall pass. The attention. The hubbub. The tourists in their rented convertibles and the businessmen with their Oxford shirts and cell phones. "Someone just came in and asked where the air-conditioned section was," laughed John Quinn, a waiter who's worked the outdoor wooden decks here for over a decade. "It's getting ridiculous." Said Pilgreen, an 18-year veteran: "We had people come in here on the Fourth all dressed up with makeup. It was 100 degrees outside and they were melting. Hilarious." Snorted Petrie, who has worked here for two decades: "We're getting people from Boca. ... We're getting people calling from South Beach who want directions. I say, `You don't want to come here today. Really.'"

Le Tub, on A1A near Johnson Street, is decorated in High Tacky Porcelain Commode Mode, with toilets and tubs filled with plants throughout the restaurant. It has snagged its share of local honors through its 25 years, but this is the biggest and potentially most ruinous fame, yet. "I feel bad for these guys," said Chris Caudle of Miami, a first-timer who proclaimed his $8.50 cheeseburger "fantastic." "I've worked in this area for years but never knew this place existed. Now, everyone will know about it." Caudle, who sells pacemakers and defibrillators for a medical supply firm ("I really shouldn't be eating cheeseburgers -- not too heart healthy"), saw the GQ write-up when he went for his last haircut.

In his national survey of 93 establishments, GQ's food writer Alan Richman called Le Tub "a dream of a dump," and its pincushion-shaped burger "magnificent…crusty on the outside, juicy inside, always perfectly cooked. ... I don't understand how this spot came to have the best burger in America, but it does." It's even more miraculous considering Petrie and the other cooks work from a cramped makeshift kitchen the size of a closet, with a gas grill no bigger than those found in most back yards. That the results are so consistently excellent is a testament to the staff's experience and dedication, even if they like to pretend they don't care. Petrie said he knew the GQ honor was coming, because the magazine shot a photo spread in advance, but he "didn't realize everyone in the world would come here and say, `I have to try that hamburger.'"

On Wednesday, with patrons waiting 1 ½ hours for their burgers, I asked if I could write some nasty things to dampen demand. "Won't help," Pilgreen said. Did I mention the bugs, roaches, killer sharks roaming the docks and the human finger I found in my seafood gumbo? So whatever you do, please stay away from Le Tub. It's overrated. Really.
jeepguy
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/07/26 21:56:34
Since i'm living in Chicago and have a small shack in Pawleys SC i'll probably (or purposely) never get West to In N Out, which i really want to try. Maybe to Louis Lunch sometime- that place looks interesting. Shorter drive too!
ellen4641
Filet Mignon
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/07/27 23:23:18
My vote is for B & R Burgers, in Hawthorne, CA ....5 miles east of manhattan beach

top 20

it's in a very non-descript storefront strip mall on Rosecrans avenue, next to a laundramat and a junky convenience store..

great messy "fried-type" burger that has gotten good media coverage...it's not a real pretty place, and I'd be careful there at night..

ellen
StL Dan
Junior Burger
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/07/28 00:13:48
Better eat a Westport Flea Market burger before it gets bulldozed.
GordonW
Double Cheeseburger
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/07/28 01:25:00
We've been through the must-try wines, and the must-try restaurants, and the must-try celebrity chefs. And the must-try resorts and spas. And night clubs. Never mind the must-try bbq joints, pizza places, hot dog stands. Now we have the hamburger you must try before you die.

I've always enjoyed Alan Richman's writing and the TV show he had for a while.

But c'mon.... What's the use of you knowing what hamburgers you missed when you cashed it in? Like you should have known?? Well...it's GQ. And Alan Richman has to earn a living.

pmrkr2
Cheeseburger
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/07/31 00:18:01
prime burger in nyc is the best burger in town
BT
Filet Mignon
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/07/31 00:37:52
I drive past Burger Joint (in SF) often. Drove past it tonight, in fact. It's popular but it doesn't seem like it attracts the crowds it would if it really were one of the 20 best in America. I suspect the author of this piece tried to spread the accolades around geographically so as to make a lot of people proud of having one of the best in their town. Personally, I'd be surprised if Burger Joint turns out to be all that much better than Sliders, a 2-location minichain ( http://www.inetours.com/Pages/Dining_Archive/Sliders_Diner.html ) that I do frequent here in town because they grill their USDA Choice burgers to order on a rotating gas grill and they put all kinds of condiments and veggie options out front so you can create your own dream burger after they hand you the basic thing on a bun. I like lots of mayo, onion and ketchup on mine and I put on tomato only if it looks decent and ripe--but anyway I like being able to do it myself.

BT
Filet Mignon
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/07/31 00:42:54
quote:
Originally posted by Al-The Mayor-Bowen


I am not sure, but if I were to hazard a guess I would estimate that I am fairly well removed from the demographic target group of the author of this article/survey/sampler.


I've never met you, but my suspicion is you are the EXACT demographic he's after.
V960
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/08/02 10:48:33
Nick's on Broadway in NYC didn't make it? BS
hawkeyejohn
Cheeseburger
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/08/02 10:53:57
I live outside of Chicago and never heard of the Chicago joint listed here.
Spudnut
Double Cheeseburger
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/08/02 10:54:02
A quick glimpse indicates that I've been to four of the places:

Louis Lunch (the environment is great; I think the burger is so-so)
JG Mellon (I don't get it, but it's been five years)
Burger Joint in NYC (love it)
Luger's (Have eaten there maybe 30 times, and have never had a burger. One day.)

mayor al
Fire Safety Admin
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/08/02 11:28:20

Re- The write-up of the Le Tub in Florida above. What happened to it when the article was published sounds a lot like what happened to Arthur Bryants some years back. I recall going to A B's in the 80's and early 90's and finding the place half-full of some sorry-looking folks (like me) chowing down on BBQ. Then in the mid-90's (96-97??) All of a sudden we had to park on the street because the lot was full of BMW's and Mercedes and the like. Lots of 'Suits' sitting at tables while one of the 'group' stood in line. (Junior partners got the duty) and the ties were neatly tucked into the suit during the meal. The place kept it's grubby nature, but the suits have worn down the honest atmosphere a lot (IMHO). I hope LeTub can maintain its attitude!

I would recommend a FarmerBurger from the mini-chain of Farmer Boys in SoCal to test against some of those listed. I rate it over In n Out on my list of Best Burgers.

BTW Jay Leno's Headlines last nite featured a menu that listed a burger with condiments that included Glaucoma(sic)...should have been Guacamole.
tonemonster2
Cheeseburger
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/08/02 11:40:53
The Burger Joint, as posted before , is great, but I'm not sure Top 20 material. I would bet the farm that the Lugar's burger is at least $20, and why would you go all the way over there and not have the steak ? JG Melon is okay, but as far as "bar burgers" go, I'll take The Old Town.Then again, my all time favorite is a toss up between IN n OUT and Fatburger, which I believe is still around southern Cal.
azure
Hamburger
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/08/02 11:48:21
I'd like to submit one...a Plaza Burger at the Plaza (the Za, for those in the know) in Madison. Wisconsin.
BuddyRoadhouse
Filet Mignon
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/08/02 11:55:15
quote:
Originally posted by hawkeyejohn

I live outside of Chicago and never heard of the Chicago joint listed here.


Just went to their website to check them out. Looks a little precious to me. Clearly this is part of a big corporate restaurant group that thought the name Poag Mahone (Gaelic for "kiss my ass") would show the world just how hip and clever they are. It looks exactly the way a burger joint recommended by GQ ought to look. In a city like Chicago where great burgers are readily available in all quarters, choosing Poag Mahone as the best, or even one of the best, shows little interest in quality and more focus on image. Sell the sizzle not the steak; how appropriate for this article and its writers.

Or am I being too cynical?
tonemonster2
Cheeseburger
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/08/02 12:11:22
Does anyone know if Fatburger is still around in LA ?
Michael Hoffman
Double-chop Porterhouse
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/08/02 16:17:35
I've never been able to understand why anyone would think the hamburgers at Louis Lunch are special. I'll take a steak sandwich there anytime.
MOC
Junior Burger
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/08/08 19:42:31
Can't vouch for the Peter Luger other than it is legendary. But if you are sampling NYC burgers - skip JG Mellons. Donovan's iin Woodside Queens is the burger to eat. I comapre all burgers to Donovan's. Go with the fried onions too. Way cheaper than Mellons or Burger Joint and so much better. It's near the "7" train , 61st stop.
mayor al
Fire Safety Admin
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/08/08 20:15:27

Tonemonster- On our roadtrip last year we saw several Fatburger stands at various places in the West L A area and Inland Empire & San Fernando Valley.
tonemonster2
Cheeseburger
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/08/12 10:39:32
Al, i's good to know you can still get a Fatburger in LALAland.
tonemonster2
Cheeseburger
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/08/12 10:42:48
Srry, wanted to edit...anyway. In my younger days after a night out in Manhattan Beach, we'd go for a double cheese double fat, double chili double EGG burger that'd set you free. The good old days.
Salustra
Double Cheeseburger
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/08/12 11:32:34
quote:
Originally posted by tonemonster2

Does anyone know if Fatburger is still around in LA ?

It has recently made inroads into San Diego County. We have one in Escondido. Not sure of any other So Cal locations.

Edit: Ok - a quick peak at their website reveals 4 locations in LA, Hollywood & South Gate:
http://www.fatburger.com/location.html

Salustra
Double Cheeseburger
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/08/12 11:36:16
quote:
Originally posted by tonemonster2

Srry, wanted to edit...anyway. In my younger days after a night out in Manhattan Beach, we'd go for a double cheese double fat, double chili double EGG burger that'd set you free. The good old days.

Hm, sounds similar to what we had at the long-gone Doodle Burger. Hubby's fav: triple, heavy doodle with bacon & egg.
Big Ugly Mich
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/08/13 00:20:59
quote:
Originally posted by BuddyRoadhouseJust went to their website to check them out. Looks a little precious to me. Clearly this is part of a big corporate restaurant group that thought the name Poag Mahone (Gaelic for "kiss my ass") would show the world just how hip and clever they are. It looks exactly the way a burger joint recommended by GQ ought to look. In a city like Chicago where great burgers are readily available in all quarters, choosing Poag Mahone as the best, or even one of the best, shows little interest in quality and more focus on image. Sell the sizzle not the steak; how appropriate for this article and its writers.

Or am I being too cynical?


I doubt it. I clicked off the article when I saw the word "sliders" in one of the restaurant names. La dee dah.

I'd like to cast a vote (and start an argument, I'm sure) for Fuddruckers in Chicago. They actually butcher and grind the beef on site for your burger. How fresh can you get?
enginecapt
Filet Mignon
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/08/13 00:33:08
quote:
Originally posted by Al-The Mayor-Bowen

I would recommend a FarmerBurger from the mini-chain of Farmer Boys in SoCal to test against some of those listed. I rate it over In n Out on my list of Best Burgers.


You said a mouthful there Al. Speaking of a mouthful, guess I'll be taking that loooooong 90 second drive to the Slover and Cherry FB's for lunch manana. Let's see, I'll have a Farmer Burger with grilled onions and double guac, order of rings, large DP........

I wouldn't want to make you jealous or anything......
Tommy2dogs
Cheeseburger
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/08/13 20:00:37
"I'd like to cast a vote (and start an argument, I'm sure) for Fuddruckers in Chicago"

Actually Fuddruckers is with the exception of a few states, a major chain. I agree that their bigers are quite good but feel they are expensive. I always opt for the Hot Dog which is served on a fresh split top bun. I top with grilled onions yellow mustard and Jalapenos
Michael Hoffman
Double-chop Porterhouse
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/08/13 20:56:54
Interesting. I have been to a Fuddrucker's twice, despite the name, and I only went the second time because I figured the really awful experience I had the first time must have been an abberation. As it turned out, it was not. The burger, ordered medium rare was very, vert well done, and the condiment area was pretty much a pig sty. The same the second time. If anyone in the central Ohio area is wondering, I'm talking about Fuddrucker's on East Main Street in Columbus.
essvee
Cheeseburger
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/08/13 21:46:42
the fact the man picked burger joint completely invalidates the rest of the list for me. bj isn't even in the top ten in the bay area. it is most definately not a good burger. it is juiceless no matter how it's ordered. whatta crock.

now val's burgers in hayward is probably the best burger i've had in my life. if he had mentioned val's, or even original joe's (grilled over mesquite charcoal on an broiler) or joe's cable car (ground fresh daily) i could cut him a little slack. but bj is such a clueless pick, i'm shocked and aghast this man was even allowed to write this article. i won't be satisfied until he's fired. bring me the head of alan richman, i say.

sorry for the lowercase, hurt my arm.
GB944
Cheeseburger
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/08/14 17:04:55
Went to Donovan's Pub in Woodside, Queens, NY on Friday (happened to be in the area, so made the trek) and was completely blown away by the quality of the burger, its perfect mating with the soft bun, and the hand cut fries... It's one of those burgers that is worth driving 50 miles for. There's not many in my book that are worth that kind of drive... May be even the best burger I've ever had.

It's rated as the top burger in NYC, and I agree...

gb
mayor al
Fire Safety Admin
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/08/14 19:05:19

Hey Fire Capt Jack, Paybacks are a B--ch! At least we have some good BBQ here. But You're right, Those Burgers and the Rings and Squash used to make my day ! Janet loved the Chicken Salad (grilled chicken) made fresh each time she orders it. She can never finish it...so I have plenty of time while she works on the Bunny fodder, to chow on the rings and Zuc.

I won't say anything about Fuddruckers except we had one in Victorville CA for several years. Many of my friends swore by the variety and size of the Burgers. I found them way over done and over priced. I tried them several times (usually on a special lunch coupon ) and NEVER had a good burger.
mr chips
Filet Mignon
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/08/15 02:26:00
Stanich"s here in Portland is one of the best I have ever eaten. Phillips Grocery in Holly Springs, Mississippi was the absolute best.
slackademic
Hamburger
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/08/15 13:24:48
Fuddruckers? It is the same type of deal as the San Francisco joing described above. Their burgers are way overpriced. I like In N Out as my favorite fast food burger, but my favorite sit down restaurant burgers are at two different places: Hamburger Mary's in San Diego and The Assembly in Hoffman Estates outside of Chicago. The best I ever had was at the Come Back Inn in Melrose Park, IL (Chicago burbs) but it has since gone out of business.
CraigieFresh
Junior Burger
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/08/15 13:30:53
Towards the top of my list would have to be Angry Dog. It's a small, sawdust on the floor joint in the Deep Ellum district of Dallas. The picnic-style setup inside relaxes customers as they anxiously await top quality beef burgers grilled to perfection.
Michael Hoffman
Double-chop Porterhouse
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/08/15 13:33:21
Heck, anything in a place called Hoffman Estates has to be extraordinary.
Tommy2dogs
Cheeseburger
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/08/15 19:05:27
quote:
Originally posted by CraigieFresh

Towards the top of my list would have to be Angry Dog. It's a small, sawdust on the floor joint in the Deep Ellum district of Dallas. The picnic-style setup inside relaxes customers as they anxiously await top quality beef burgers grilled to perfection.


Don't know if this is the same Angry Dog in Deep Ellum I have been to, but while the burgers are pretty good it is anything but small and you can barely hear yourself think above the noise. Of course I have always gone on a weekend night before checking out music venues.
Sandy Thruthegarden
Double Cheeseburger
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/08/16 08:28:06
Has anyone ever had a cheeseburger at the Star Valley Cheese Restaurant in Thayne, Wyoming? I had one with swiss years ago and it was one of the best burgers I've ever had. I see on the internet that it's still in existence but wonder if they've kept up the quality.
backfrmIraq
Hamburger
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/08/16 13:40:29
Mobile Register has a bi-annual summer-long quest by food editor David Holloway for the best cheeseburger in LA (lower Alabama)..didn't happen this summer so it must have been done last summer while I was in Iraq....Butch Cassidy's in Midtown took the honors a few years ago....I highly recommend the Butchburger....big 1/2 lber with seasoned, juicey patty, choice of cheeses and good steak fries...best cheeseburge in Iraq/Kuwait was the DFAC (dining facility) in Camp Anaconda, Iraq...chow was pretty good the whole year I was there.....
slackademic
Hamburger
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/08/16 14:35:41
Thank you for your service. Butch Cassidy's sounds good.
NAAMikey
Cheeseburger
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/08/19 10:44:20
When I lived in LA in the 80's there was a place called "Y Not Burger" on Hawthorne Blvd. in Torrance CA. Does anyone know if it is still there? It was by the Del Amo Mall, and had the best burgers and huge onion rings. I could go for one now....
ellen4641
Filet Mignon
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/08/19 21:57:09
yes NAAMikey, YNot burger is definitely still there in Torrance , CA!

it is on Hawthorne BLVD, right by the Del Amo mall like you remembered! (they even have some kind of wierd ostrich burger on the menu)

If you ever go back to the area soon, you may enjoy Lucilles Smokehouse BBQ that is now in the Del Amo mall (where Houlihans used to be)..........there are 3 locations that I know of.....big place with decent ribs, even beef ribs, which I like.....very popular place..

I just moved back to NJ 2 years ago from Southern California, and they have a lot of those type of 50's style hamburger stands still around....

I used to love "quick and split" by the LA airport....sadly, that location is now called something else, also I believe they have a few locations still left............there burgers were real "homestyle", and good and messy


Many of the hamburger joints are even open for breakfast as well, and I used to grab some quick heuvos rancheros.............there would be many mexican items on the menus...

ellen
ellen4641
Filet Mignon
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/08/19 22:04:00
as far as Fuddruckers goes, I had been to a few locations (Union , NJ on rt 22, and Torrance , and Buena Park, CA).....I've either got a real decent burger a few times, even a real good mesquite chicken sandwich..

However, a bunch of months ago, I patronized the Fuddruckers in Toms River, NJ by the Jersey shore. I could see why that location is now CLOSED ! (it became a Tiffany's Ribs)

During this particular experience, I realized just how overpriced the place was ! (I agree with YOU , those of you who also felt that way!)...it really hit me this time that something was amiss........I remember the burger perhaps being around $8.00. they call you when it's ready........I remember getting a funny feeling cause it was such a big place during prime time dinner hours , and there was only about 3 other people in the place !

something was just not right about that place....

ellen
ellen4641
Filet Mignon
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/08/19 22:10:14
and most importantly, the burger was nothing special.
I remember it tasting a lot better a few years ago.

But, alas , next time I went by that Fuddruckers in Toms River, NJ, they were closed ! That validated my feelings about the place!

ellen
Jimeats
Filet Mignon
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/08/19 22:28:56
I'm with Ugly Mitch we have a couple of Fuddruckers in the Boston area and they are very good. Chow
NAAMikey
Cheeseburger
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/08/20 09:50:09
Thanks for the info Ellen...I worked at LAX, but don't remember "lick and split"..Where I lived (Redondo Beach). there were many great places that were only open for breakfast and lunch. Some that come to mind are Unky Roys ( the original,gone now, they biult a hotel there in King Harbor),"Joes" on PCH,Nancy's Food Cellar in Riviera Village, "The Cozy Cafe" on PCH. Also another one that is gone is "Vans". They served breakfast and lunch. Belgian waffles,crepes,Flemish sausage bread with cheese...mmmmm
Adjudicator
Sirloin
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/08/20 09:58:50
quote:
Originally posted by ellen4641

and most importantly, the burger was nothing special.
I remember it tasting a lot better a few years ago.

But, alas , next time I went by that Fuddruckers in Toms River, NJ, they were closed ! That validated my feelings about the place!

ellen


Fuddruckers. Nothing special. Way to much $$ for what you get. Bland seasoning. Excellent toppings bar, though...
Willly
Cheeseburger
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/08/20 10:23:23
quote:
Originally posted by Tommy2dogs

"I'd like to cast a vote (and start an argument, I'm sure) for Fuddruckers in Chicago"

Actually Fuddruckers is with the exception of a few states, a major chain. I agree that their bigers are quite good but feel they are expensive. I always opt for the Hot Dog which is served on a fresh split top bun. I top with grilled onions yellow mustard and Jalapenos


You couldn't pay me enough to go to Rudfu**** and top my burger from the same topping bar snot-nosed kids have been playing at all day while their parents look elsewhere...
Adjudicator
Sirloin
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/08/20 10:26:31
quote:
Originally posted by Willly

quote:
Originally posted by Tommy2dogs

"I'd like to cast a vote (and start an argument, I'm sure) for Fuddruckers in Chicago"

Actually Fuddruckers is with the exception of a few states, a major chain. I agree that their bigers are quite good but feel they are expensive. I always opt for the Hot Dog which is served on a fresh split top bun. I top with grilled onions yellow mustard and Jalapenos


You couldn't pay me enough to go to Rudfu**** and top my burger from the same topping bar snot-nosed kids have been playing at all day while their parents look elsewhere...


Oh well, THIS NEVER happened on my ONE visit to FR's.
The Travelin Man
Filet Mignon
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/08/20 12:11:07
quote:
Originally posted by BuddyRoadhouse

quote:
Originally posted by hawkeyejohn

I live outside of Chicago and never heard of the Chicago joint listed here.


Just went to their website to check them out. Looks a little precious to me. Clearly this is part of a big corporate restaurant group that thought the name Poag Mahone (Gaelic for "kiss my ass") would show the world just how hip and clever they are. It looks exactly the way a burger joint recommended by GQ ought to look. In a city like Chicago where great burgers are readily available in all quarters, choosing Poag Mahone as the best, or even one of the best, shows little interest in quality and more focus on image. Sell the sizzle not the steak; how appropriate for this article and its writers.

Or am I being too cynical?


Well, one could argue that you are being cynical if you just went to the website and pronounced it something that you don't like. If you said that you went, tried the burger, and found that it lacked, then I you might have grounds for an argument.

I think that "judging a book by it's cover" is a big mistake -- and one that Roadfooders should likely try to avoid. MOST people looking for a great meal wouldn't drive into the parking lot of many of the places that we champion around here.

At least the guy didn't direct you to eat chain burgers. I would hope that he thinks you could find those on your own.
ellen4641
Filet Mignon
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/08/20 16:46:24
NAA Mikey, and all fellow roadfooders,
it was called "Quick n' Split" (not "lick n' split" that you erroneously called it)

It was right next to the renowned Randy's Donuts (with their big donut marquee).......on Manchester Blvd and La Cienega......

there should still be a few other locations , in south central LA, further in the hood on Western Ave, and on Vermont Ave.

Hey, did you work for an airline at LAX? I worked for United from June 1999 till I got laid off Oct 2001 (after the Sept 11th disaster)

I was a ramp agent (terminal 6 and 7 ) How about you?

that was ME, driving those beltloaders and with my kneepads on in the baggage bin! (amazing what I did , being a petite female!)

Did you ever have the lunch buffet at that Shakey's pizza parlor, on Aviation Blvd. ? It was'nt bad , in a fix...

there are a lot of places with names like "Steve's burgers" and Jims burgers in that southern ca. area. I love that.

ellen

One of my favorites is the B & R Burgers on Rosecrans Ave in Hawthorne........real good messy homestyle burgers......


essvee
Cheeseburger
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/08/20 17:36:18
i must weigh in with my ever so important opinion of fudd's. i went once, piqued by their "corporate" claim of making the world's best hamburger. i ordered a one-pounder, medium rare. it came out cooked all the way through yet sickly gray on the outside, without a trace of the brown that would indicate it had spent some some time on an actual grill. a fascinating achievement but, alas, kicking their grandiose corporate claim to an heretofore unexperienced culinary area of sheer delusionary bullpickles. it was as if long john silver's claimed that it served the world's best seafood.

just thinking about all this has given me the vapors. i must lay down with a cool cloth over my eyes. thanks for listening.
mayor al
Fire Safety Admin
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/08/20 18:03:35
EssVee,
Bull****Pickles is a very accurate descriptor of what the company was claiming , we really prefer use of modifiers that don't reveal the complete term to the under 12 reading audience. Thank you for understanding the sensitive needs of our membership. Your edit of the error in terminology will be is appreciated.

Ellen,
A generation before your time my Brother in law started his career with Western Airlines at LAX in the job you had. He went to Ontario and then up to PDX at Portland for the rest of his working career. When Delta absorbed Western Airlines, he hung on for a few years but when he had his 25 in, it was time to retire. That part of the family have loved Oregon from the minute they arrived.

The only food stop in the South Bay area I have good recall on was the Victoria Station on Hawthorne near PCH. They did great Oysters Rockefeller and Steaks to follow and their drinks were really 'full-strength'!

essvee
Cheeseburger
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/08/20 18:07:57
please accept my apologies on behalf of the readership, mr. mayor. post edited as requested.
Pancho
Double Cheeseburger
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/08/20 19:39:32
The Blue Moon in Madison, WI gets my vote as the best I've eaten anywhere, and I have lived in 24 states and been in all. Fudruckers is so lowly they shouldn't even be mentioned in this thread.
NAAMikey
Cheeseburger
RE: The 20 Hamburgers You Must Eat Before You Die 2005/08/20 21:13:44
Ellen...sorry aqbout the "quick and split". I guess i wasn't paying attention. I worked for Avis RAC from 1979-1987 when I moved back here to Dutchess county NY. As for Shakey's..it wasn't bad. I prefered breakfast to burgers mostly anyway because I worked from 3-11pm and slept late, and then the next day had a nice leisurly (sp?) breafast from someplace at the beach before going back to LAX. By the way..the Houlihans that you mentioned that was at the Del Amo Mall, I had my wedding rehearsal dinner there and the next day was the reception across the street at the Holiday Inn.

Mr Mayor...I also remember Victoria Station on Hawthorne...good food there.

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