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MetroplexJim

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The Crack of the Bat, BASEBALL, 2014: Have Your Sons Focus on IT and Retire Early! Wed, 12/4/13 9:53 AM (permalink)
Seven years @ $22+ million per, guaranteed for this!
 
I thought the Pujols contract was insane, but this really "takes the cake".
 
The fragile Ellsbury, who has averaged only 100 games a season and is two seasons past his one really good one is signed by the NYY for seven more @ millions more than his one great year was worth!
 
Freddy Lynn was born too soon.
 
Mike Trout is making $510K/season and is not eligible for arbitratation until 2015.  Were I he, I'd be packed in styrofoam and riding in a Brinks truck until then!
 
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    Re:The Crack of the Bat, BASEBALL, 2014: Have Your Sons Focus on IT and Retire Early! Wed, 12/4/13 11:34 AM (permalink)
    MJ
    Really?  Baseball just finished.  We still have to get through football, basketball and hockey.  And Christmas and New Year's.  Sheesh.  You guys from New Wilmington.
     
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      Re:The Crack of the Bat, BASEBALL, 2014: Have Your Sons Focus on IT and Retire Early! Wed, 12/4/13 1:05 PM (permalink)
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      MJ
      Really?  Baseball just finished.  We still have to get through football, basketball and hockey.  And Christmas and New Year's.  Sheesh.  You guys from New Wilmington.


      You never heard of the Hot Stove?  For us fanatics and figure filberts there is only one true team sport.
       
      Football 'sux' this year (at least for my teams); if it weren't for the uniforms I couldn't tell basketball teams apart; what's hockey?
       
      I hope you and Michael make it to PNC next year; I'm awaiting eagerly your review of Augustine's Pizza!
       
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        Re:The Crack of the Bat, BASEBALL, 2014: Have Your Sons Focus on IT and Retire Early! Wed, 12/4/13 1:42 PM (permalink)
        I never heard of the Hot Stove and I always thought a filbert was another name for a hazelnut.  Now I'm really confused. 
         
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          Re:The Crack of the Bat, BASEBALL, 2014: Have Your Sons Focus on IT and Retire Early! Wed, 12/4/13 3:39 PM (permalink)
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          lleechef


          MJ
          Really?  Baseball just finished.  We still have to get through football, basketball and hockey.  And Christmas and New Year's.  Sheesh.  You guys from New Wilmington.


          You never heard of the Hot Stove?  For us fanatics and figure filberts there is only one true team sport.



          I'll bet it's been 50 years since I last saw or heard the word filbert in connection with baseball, the formerly intellectual sport.

           
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            Re:The Crack of the Bat, BASEBALL, 2014: Have Your Sons Focus on IT and Retire Early! Wed, 12/4/13 6:29 PM (permalink)
            Lisa - This time of the year is baseball's other season, it's called the "Silly Season".  Teams get SILLY trying to spend way too much money.
             
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              Re:The Crack of the Bat, BASEBALL, 2014: Have Your Sons Focus on IT and Retire Early! Thu, 12/5/13 12:14 AM (permalink)
              WAY to early for Baseball talk!
               
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                Re:The Crack of the Bat, BASEBALL, 2014: Have Your Sons Focus on IT and Retire Early! Thu, 12/5/13 8:05 AM (permalink)
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                MetroplexJim


                lleechef


                MJ
                Really?  Baseball just finished.  We still have to get through football, basketball and hockey.  And Christmas and New Year's.  Sheesh.  You guys from New Wilmington.


                You never heard of the Hot Stove?  For us fanatics and figure filberts there is only one true team sport.



                I'll bet it's been 50 years since I last saw or heard the word filbert in connection with baseball, the formerly intellectual sport.


                "Figure filbert" was the old slang term for those who are fascinated by baseball statistics (someone who is 'nutty' about stats).  Today, these folks call themselves SABREmetricians.  And, SABREmetrics has become the mathematical basis for "Moneyball".
                 
                I'm far from one of those, but when I was a kid I rejoiced at the publication of the Baseball Encyclopedia back in the '60's, and as a young adult, I thoroughly enjoyed Bill James' works (BTW, Bill is a fellow eocnomist).  And, today, I find this site to be endlessly fascinating.
                 
                 
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                  Re:The Crack of the Bat, BASEBALL, 2014: Have Your Sons Focus on IT and Retire Early! Fri, 12/6/13 8:02 PM (permalink)
                  The estimable Robinson Cano at age 31 gets 10 years @$24M from the Mariners.
                   
                  The two players in my memory similar are Rob Carew and Robbie Alomar, both now in the HOF.  Check their stats after age 31 and ask yourself how many of their post - 31 seasons are worth $24M even in today's market.
                   
                  Only a 24 year old Hornsby carrying Mazeroski's glove would give fair value for Cano's money.
                   
                  What a good day for my Rangers:  the Mariners have joined the Angels in financial insanity.
                   
                   
                  <message edited by MetroplexJim on Sat, 12/7/13 4:21 PM>
                   
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                    Re:The Crack of the Bat, BASEBALL, 2014: Have Your Sons Focus on IT and Retire Early! Fri, 12/6/13 8:23 PM (permalink)
                    He is a gifted hitter but that nonchalant way about him doesn't work in ratings...ticket or Jersey sales.

                    Gotta be feisty hustle & have a little charisma (or drama) to play here...in the most exciting market in the world. Even if it is for the dreaded Yankees.

                    With Jeter & Arod out most of the season the Yankees saw the writing on the wall as far as the future...without Cano.
                    <message edited by CCinNJ on Fri, 12/6/13 8:31 PM>
                     
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                      Re:The Crack of the Bat, BASEBALL, 2014: Have Your Sons Focus on IT and Retire Early! Fri, 12/6/13 10:23 PM (permalink)
                      It's like Christmas morning with the Yankees signing of Carlos Beltran.

                      It doesn't matter what he did anywhere else...the eternal snapshot of him in the minds of New York baseball fans is looking at a called strike to end the NLCS....not being willing to slide into a base (hurting himself every time he did) & clunking into everyone & everything that didn't clunk into him first in the outfield for the Mets.

                      Meanwhile the Mets signed Curtis Granderson.

                      Go Mr. Met!


                      Mike Napoli left money on the table to stay with the Champions of the World! Boston Red Sox.

                      Wave wave wave!
                      <message edited by CCinNJ on Fri, 12/6/13 10:53 PM>
                       
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                        Re:The Crack of the Bat, BASEBALL, 2014: Have Your Sons Focus on IT and Retire Early! Sat, 12/7/13 4:36 PM (permalink)
                        CCinNJ
                         

                        Mike Napoli left money on the table to stay with the Champions of the World! Boston Red Sox. 



                        I loved him with the Rangers and am glad to see him succeed with the BoSox:  nice beard, good kid, class act - a winner.
                         
                         
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                          Re:The Crack of the Bat, BASEBALL, 2014: Have Your Sons Focus on IT and Retire Early! Sat, 12/7/13 7:35 PM (permalink)
                          Is Safeco Field as friendly to LH hitters as Yankee Stadium is?
                           
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                            Re:The Crack of the Bat, BASEBALL, 2014: Have Your Sons Focus on IT and Retire Early! Sat, 12/7/13 7:43 PM (permalink)
                            No it is not. It is friendly to line drive hitters though. Cano's contract helps if the mariners win quickly but at its end it will be a horrible burden
                             
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                              Re:The Crack of the Bat, BASEBALL, 2014: Have Your Sons Focus on IT and Retire Early! Sun, 12/8/13 3:15 PM (permalink)
                              Cano is such a smooth hitter he should be able to earn that keep as a DH late in that contract. Other than day-to-day minor issues he doesn't miss much.

                              While he's on the field you'll also get the bonus of watching his smooth-style of fielding. It looks like Swan Lake when he fields ground balls or involved in double plays. He goes after fly balls like he holding a briefcase in the hand not holding his glove.
                               
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                                Re:The Crack of the Bat, BASEBALL, 2014: Have Your Sons Focus on IT and Retire Early! Sun, 12/8/13 3:38 PM (permalink)
                                Silly season is NASCAR. That's my second favorite sport.


                                A little girl from New Jersey happens to be the NASCAR fan of Roadfood.

                                Gotta love that y'all.
                                 
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                                  Re:The Crack of the Bat, BASEBALL, 2014: Have Your Sons Focus on IT and Retire Early! Thu, 12/12/13 12:07 PM (permalink)
                                  Which cheek do you use for your Red Man?
                                   
                                  I just renewed our Brewers 10-game season ticket plan for 2014.  No price increase (and after last season it would be tough to justify) and by paying in full we get Opening Day tickets for free.  I'm looking forward to seeing them mathematically eliminate the Pirates from playoff contention on April 12.
                                   
                                  Speaking of the Buccos, who's on first?  Morneau left for Colorado and Jones signed with Florida, which leaves Gaby Sanchez on the current active roster.
                                   
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                                    Re:The Crack of the Bat, BASEBALL, 2014: Have Your Sons Focus on IT and Retire Early! Thu, 12/12/13 12:21 PM (permalink)
                                    ScreamingChicken


                                    Which cheek do you use for your Red Man?

                                    I just renewed our Brewers 10-game season ticket plan for 2014.  No price increase (and after last season it would be tough to justify) and by paying in full we get Opening Day tickets for free.  I'm looking forward to seeing them mathematically eliminate the Pirates from playoff contention on April 12.

                                    Speaking of the Buccos, who's on first?  Morneau left for Colorado and Jones signed with Florida, which leaves Gaby Sanchez on the current active roster.


                                    I bet they'll trade for Mitch Moreland - the guy the Rangers kept instead of Chris Davis.
                                     
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                                      Re:The Crack of the Bat, BASEBALL, 2014: Have Your Sons Focus on IT and Retire Early! Sat, 12/21/13 8:17 AM (permalink)
                                      I said Mitch Moreland to the Bucs 9 days ago; looks like it's going to happen.
                                       
                                      If so, it will be great for both teams, and Mitch. 
                                      <message edited by MetroplexJim on Sun, 12/22/13 6:12 AM>
                                       
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                                        Re:The Crack of the Bat, BASEBALL, 2014: Have Your Sons Focus on IT and Retire Early! Sat, 12/21/13 10:07 AM (permalink)
                                        The Twins sign catcher, Kurt Suzuki for the coming year to replace Joe Mauer moving permanently to first base. So, if they lose 90 games for a fourth straight season they at least have a chance to become accomplished violin players to accompany the losses with appropriate music.
                                         
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                                          Re:The Crack of the Bat, BASEBALL, 2014: Have Your Sons Focus on IT and Retire Early! Sat, 12/21/13 2:12 PM (permalink)
                                          FLASH:  Rangers sign Choo!
                                           
                                          And pay him less than the Yankees offered.
                                           
                                          Let's guess why:
                                           
                                          a)  Summers in Dallas are nicer than NYC's.
                                          b)  Dalls has better Korean restaurants than NYC.
                                          c)  Businesses are leaving Texas for New York.
                                          d)  The Constitution of the Republic of Texas forbids any levy of tax on incomes.
                                           
                                          Hmmmmm .....
                                           
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                                            Re:The Crack of the Bat, BASEBALL, 2014: Have Your Sons Focus on IT and Retire Early! Sun, 12/22/13 6:41 AM (permalink)
                                            Here's Choo's statistical profile.
                                             
                                            Scroll down to one of my favorite bits of info, the Similarity Score which tells you which players Choo is most similar to at various points in his career.  I haven't even heard of half of them and I'm a 'figure filbert'!
                                             
                                            Oh well, the Rangers are blessed by the wealthiest owners in MLB; evidently they found some loose change in their petty cash. 
                                             
                                            The old owner, Tom Hicks, was a publicity-seeking hedge fund hustler who signed A-Rod, then couldn't afford to keep him. 
                                             
                                            These guys are the 'real deal' with net worths in 'real business' sufficient to buy and sell the ownership of the entire AL East and the local loudmouths: Jerry Jones & Mark Cuban.
                                            <message edited by MetroplexJim on Sun, 12/22/13 6:43 AM>
                                             
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                                              Re:The Crack of the Bat, BASEBALL, 2014: Have Your Sons Focus on IT and Retire Early! Sun, 12/22/13 8:44 AM (permalink)
                                              As it is Christmas, here is all that remains on my list:
                                               
                                              Mitch Moreland to "my" Bucs for a few prospects "my" Rangers need to replenish their system and repair their foolishness in overpaying the Cubbies in order to rent the mediocre Garza.  (The Yanks should sign Garza and make him shave that ridiculous goatee)!
                                               
                                              Nelson Cruz to the Orioles.  I'm a former season ticket-holder at Camden and still have a soft spot for them.  I'm sure that Angelos hasn't run out of asbestos victims yet, so he can afford Cruz and get the attendance back to the 3.5 MM that cathedral of a ballpark deserves.
                                               
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                                                Re:The Crack of the Bat, BASEBALL, 2014: Have Your Sons Focus on IT and Retire Early! Sun, 12/22/13 1:18 PM (permalink)
                                                MetroplexJim


                                                Scroll down to one of my favorite bits of info, the Similarity Score which tells you which players Choo is most similar to at various points in his career.  I haven't even heard of half of them and I'm a 'figure filbert'!
                                                I recognize them all except George Watkins, Hank Leiber, and Wally Judnich.  They must be before my time.
                                                 
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                                                  Re:The Crack of the Bat, BASEBALL, 2014: Have Your Sons Focus on IT and Retire Early! Sun, 12/22/13 1:30 PM (permalink)
                                                  ScreamingChicken


                                                  MetroplexJim


                                                  Scroll down to one of my favorite bits of info, the Similarity Score which tells you which players Choo is most similar to at various points in his career.  I haven't even heard of half of them and I'm a 'figure filbert'!
                                                  I recognize them all except George Watkins, Hank Leiber, and Wally Judnich.  They must be before my time.


                                                  Oh, I'd 'heard' of several - and seen several play, including Jeffrey Hammonds who never lived up to his potential after he came to the Orioles out of Stanford - but only one on all those lists resembles anyone you would want, at age 31, to give $130 MM to for seven years.
                                                   
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                                                    Re:The Crack of the Bat, BASEBALL, 2014: Have Your Sons Focus on IT and Retire Early! Sun, 01/12/14 8:21 PM (permalink)
                                                    Happy day in NYC!

                                                    A Rod won't be prancing around the bases like a big awkward show pony for the entire 2014 season!
                                                     
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                                                      Re:The Crack of the Bat, BASEBALL, 2014: Have Your Sons Focus on IT and Retire Early! Mon, 01/13/14 7:51 AM (permalink)
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                                                      Happy day in NYC!

                                                      A Rod won't be prancing around the bases like a big awkward show pony for the entire 2014 season!


                                                      Never underestimate the ability of the Federal Judiciary to foment outrage.
                                                       
                                                      As sure as I'm sitting here A-Rod's "best that money can buy" lawyers are "judge-shopping".
                                                       
                                                      The result will be an injunction delaying enforcement of the suspension.  As the wheels of justice grind slowly, expect A-Rod to be free to play in 2014.
                                                       
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                                                        Re:The Crack of the Bat, BASEBALL, 2014: Have Your Sons Focus on IT and Retire Early! Mon, 01/13/14 12:15 PM (permalink)
                                                        MJ
                                                        We're going to PNC Park May 7 to see the Giants get spanked again by the Bucs.  I'll send you a slice of Augustine's pizza.
                                                        Seats are Row 7, third base line, right next to the Pirates dugout!  Nice, huh?
                                                        <message edited by lleechef on Mon, 01/13/14 12:17 PM>
                                                         
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                                                          Re:The Crack of the Bat, BASEBALL, 2014: Have Your Sons Focus on IT and Retire Early! Mon, 01/13/14 12:42 PM (permalink)
                                                          Even though I have to sit at the Pirates dugout I'm just happy to be going to see the Giants win. And I'll be wearing Giants gear. And I'll have a hot dog.
                                                           
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                                                            Re:The Crack of the Bat, BASEBALL, 2014: Have Your Sons Focus on IT and Retire Early! Mon, 01/13/14 6:37 PM (permalink)
                                                            lleechef


                                                            MJ
                                                            We're going to PNC Park May 7 to see the Giants get spanked again by the Bucs.  I'll send you a slice of Augustine's pizza.
                                                            Seats are Row 7, third base line, right next to the Pirates dugout!  Nice, huh?


                                                            No need to send one! 
                                                             
                                                            But I do look forward to a thoughtful review from one who possesses a sophisticated palate.
                                                             
                                                            This could well be the Bucco's year; the Jints are hardly even a speed bump, it's the Dodgers, Braves, and Cards I worry about.
                                                             
                                                            Great seats; I'm both impressed and envious!
                                                             
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