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chewingthefat

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The most overblown drink Mon, 05/10/10 5:48 PM (permalink)
Put me down for a Mojito, never could figure out the appeal, and years ago a Harvey Wallbanger...
What's your thought?
 
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    plb

    Re:The most overblown drink Mon, 05/10/10 6:20 PM (permalink)
    Most of these new-age, fancy-pants, creative, girly "Martinis.”  Except for the Hawaiian one at Roy's which I really like.
     
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      MilwFoodlovers

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      Re:The most overblown drink Mon, 05/10/10 7:09 PM (permalink)
      I agree. Ditto for a mint julep.
      To each there own but sweet cocktails including most "girly" martinis pale.
      Give me a gin martini rocks or a dry CC manhatten and I'm a happy camper.
       
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        JRPfeff

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        Re:The most overblown drink Mon, 05/10/10 9:38 PM (permalink)
        MilwFoodlovers

        Give me a gin martini rocks or a dry CC manhatten and I'm a happy camper.


        Just one?
         
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          MilwFoodlovers

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          Re:The most overblown drink Mon, 05/10/10 9:41 PM (permalink)
           
          JRPfeff


          MilwFoodlovers

          Give me a gin martini rocks or a dry CC manhatten and I'm a happy camper.


          Just one?


          At a time.
           
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            cavandre

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            Re:The most overblown drink Tue, 05/11/10 8:18 AM (permalink)
            Anything coming out of a Starbucks!
             
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              ScreamingChicken

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              Re:The most overblown drink Tue, 05/11/10 9:17 AM (permalink)
              JRPfeff


              MilwFoodlovers

              Give me a gin martini rocks or a dry CC manhatten and I'm a happy camper.


              Just one?


              He didn't specify size.
               
              This past weekend I watched an episode of "Diary of a Foodie" and one of the segments was about a "mixologist" in London and some of the new cocktails he was coming up with.  I couldn't see the appeal but I'm sure some others would.
               
              Brad
              <message edited by Brad_Olson on Tue, 05/11/10 9:20 AM>
               
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                mayor al

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                Re:The most overblown drink Tue, 05/11/10 10:44 AM (permalink)
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                  I don't know of anyone in Kentucky who orders a Mint Julep as a 'regular' bar drink at any time during the year, except for the Derby Celebration period. I don't think I would count it in the 'Foo-Foo' pink-foamy stuff we see on some of the 'exotic' drink shows. As a Special celebration beverage, it reminds me of the Egg-Nog Punch of the Christmas Season....nice to remind us of the holiday, but not a staple in my liquor cabinet.
                 
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                  chewingthefat

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                  Re:The most overblown drink Tue, 05/11/10 11:14 AM (permalink)
                  cavandre


                  Anything coming out of a Starbucks!


                  Their coffee gives me serious stomach acid!
                   
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                    Twinwillow

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                    Re:The most overblown drink Tue, 05/11/10 11:58 AM (permalink)
                    1. Anything from Starbucks.
                    2. Tang
                     
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                      Scorereader

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                      Re:The most overblown drink Tue, 05/11/10 5:14 PM (permalink)
                      Wow, people slamming the pink foo foo drinks, and calling them "new?" - please, the Mai Tai is pink, and it's been around for over half a century. Tiki Bars have been around for more than 3/4 of a century and they've been serving up fruity, sweet drinks all along.

                      So, fruity, foo foo drinks aren't anything close to being new. There are new ones, of course, to keep up with new trends and wants - they come in and out of fashion. For example, I haven't seen a Sex-on-the-Beach ordered in ages. Died out sometime in the 90s, at the same time the Cosmopolitan rose up and dominated during the late 90s and most of this decade. But it too is losing its popularity now to other drinks.

                      One thing that seems to put the proverbial panties in a bunch for traditional martini drinkers, is the use of the word "martini."

                      Well, the cosmo is to blame. Cheryl Cook, who is credited with creating the cosmo in South Beach, said, " What overwhelmed me was the number of people who ordered Martinis just to be seen with a Martini glass in their hand. It was on this realization that gave me the idea to create a drink that everyone could palate and was visually stunning in that classic glass. This is what the Cosmo was based on."

                      Well, this idea of using the martini glass (instead of other highball glasses or hurricane glasses or, at that time, outdated tiki-cups and coconut shells), spread. And the Martini craze was born. Which is really nothing more than a cocktail craze, but the birth of martini bars has only furthered the relatively new and extended use of the word "martini" to drinks that are really just cocktails. 

                      So, for all those traditional martini drinkers (many of whom disagree about the use or non-use of olive juice in a true martini - so they can't even agree there), you can blame Cheryl Cook and her cosmopolitan for purposely creating a cocktail for a martini glass, that wasn't a martini -although, I think the Manhattan had already done that. 

                      Personally, I'm not huge on fruity drinks, tiki bar polynesian included, but my wife enjoys drinks to be more refreshing than harsh like straight up type of drinks. She liked my mint julep this year, and the mojito that followed, but admitted that those types of drinks are too sweet for multiple drinks. But my grapefruit based drink, with its balance of acidic citrus, tart cranberry and sweet triple sec, mixed with vodka, she found extremely refreshing and very drinkable with regards to multiple servings - which works to my advantage later on that night

                      Sex-on-the-beach was probably the most overblown drink in its heyday.  A sort of screwdriver wapatula. When I was in to that crap, I don't know if I threw up later that night from too much booze, or too much sugar.
                       
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                        MilwFoodlovers

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                        Re:The most overblown drink Tue, 05/11/10 6:46 PM (permalink)
                        Ah, grapefruit drinks like the Salty Dog disappeared for me when I joined the Statin crowd.
                        Your Sex-on-the-beach story reminded me of my underage introduction to Southern Comfort.
                        Probably 45 years have passed since then, the last time I ever drank it.
                         
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                          mar52

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                          Re:The most overblown drink Tue, 05/11/10 7:48 PM (permalink)
                          Hey!  I like Mojitos.  They're a refreshing drink.

                          Never could swallow Harvey Wallbangers.
                           
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                            mayor al

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                            Re:The most overblown drink Tue, 05/11/10 7:48 PM (permalink)
                            Since I have no reputation (to speak of) in the beverage area, I can identify my 'Red-Neck Whisky Sour' as an acceptable alternative to the standard issue 'Foo-Foo' drink.

                            A Slurpee cup,,,or Sonic HiWay Slush cup, plenty of ice, 6 to 8 oz of Bourbon, more if it the first one of the evening, Fill remaining space with Mountain Dew...or if with someone from Michigan, make the topping Vernor's.

                            Drink the first while mixing the second, or watching one quarter of an NCAA Basketball Tourney game. !!

                            Ain't no freakin' Foo-Foo's in Southern Indiana !    BTW, Don't fret about drivin' me home after a few of these. My Tractor has a GPS linked to the field-measuring device..It'll take me home without my knowledge !!
                            <message edited by mayor al on Tue, 05/11/10 7:51 PM>
                             
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                              quijote

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                              Re:The most overblown drink Wed, 05/12/10 9:10 PM (permalink)
                              I'm not a huge fan of mojitos and mint juleps, but I like 'em once in a while. (Mint juleps are kind of like mojitos with bourbon....) Both have been around for generations; versions of the mojito have been around for centuries. But after all is said and done, I prefer a manhattan, whisky sour, sidecar, and similar drinks.

                              I do find the "martini" explosion a bit comical, and I find a lot of the newfangled something-tinis to be over the top. Especially Starbucksesque concoctions like Pomegranate-Acai Frappuccino Mochatini. A dessert masquerading as both cocktail and health food.
                               
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                                chewingthefat

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                                Re:The most overblown drink Thu, 05/13/10 5:21 PM (permalink)
                                It is my firm belief that in order to qualify as a genuine alcohol laced drink, one's mouth should be able to stomach at least 8 of them in say...2 hours!
                                 
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                                  Michael Hoffman

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                                  Re:The most overblown drink Thu, 05/13/10 5:25 PM (permalink)
                                  There used to be something called a Long Island Iced Tea. I tasted one once. Disgusting. And then there's a the stupidity of calling something made with vodka a martini.
                                   
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                                    chewingthefat

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                                    Re:The most overblown drink Fri, 05/14/10 12:38 PM (permalink)
                                    Michael Hoffman


                                    There used to be something called a Long Island Iced Tea. I tasted one once. Disgusting. And then there's a the stupidity of calling something made with vodka a martini.


                                    As much Vodka as I have consumed in my life, I've never tried a Martini, or the real thing a Gin Martini....maybe tonight!
                                     
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                                      Michael Hoffman

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                                      Re:The most overblown drink Fri, 05/14/10 12:43 PM (permalink)
                                      Slainte! Salute!
                                       
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                                        Vince Macek

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                                        Re:The most overblown drink Sun, 05/16/10 10:06 AM (permalink)
                                        I'm all for simplicity, but I'm also a big fan of the whole Tiki thing - Trader Vic's is still going strong here, and it's a must at the annual Drive-Invasion.
                                        As for overblown, see drinks that involve multiple glasses and liquor ignition, like the Flaming Lamborghini. I don't know if anyone's actually made one or it just exists to help fill out a drinks list.
                                         
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                                          enginecapt

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                                          Re:The most overblown drink Sun, 05/16/10 12:07 PM (permalink)
                                          Michael Hoffman


                                          There used to be something called a Long Island Iced Tea.


                                          It's still out there, and sitting in front of me if I happen to find myself in a drinking establishment, which isn't often these days.
                                           
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                                            Parrot Cage

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                                            Re:The most overblown drink Fri, 07/15/11 1:28 PM (permalink)
                                            Put my vote down for whatever that drink is that the (insert pejorative here)s on Sex And The City drink.
                                             
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                                              Re:The most overblown drink Fri, 07/15/11 1:59 PM (permalink)
                                              JRPfeff


                                              MilwFoodlovers

                                              Give me a gin martini rocks or a dry CC manhatten and I'm a happy camper.


                                              Just one?
                                              "I never have more than one drink before dinner. But I do like that one to be large and very strong and very cold and very well-made."

                                              --Casino Royale, Ian Fleming

                                               

                                              Michael Hoffman


                                              ...  And then there's a the stupidity of calling something made with vodka a martini.
                                              +1.
                                              There's a story that President Lincoln used to ask, when Cabinet meetings got unruly, 'how many legs does a sheep have if you call the tail a leg.  Everyone agreed 5. Lincoln said 4. Just because you CALL the tail a leg, doesn't make it one.'

                                               
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                                                ChrisOC

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                                                Re:The most overblown drink Thu, 11/24/11 2:41 PM (permalink)
                                                  Drinks like Harvey Wallbangers are fad drinks.  I think a lot of people are now ordering Pinot Grigio just to show off the fact that they can pronounce it.
                                                 
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                                                  JRPfeff

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                                                  Re:The most overblown drink Thu, 11/24/11 4:31 PM (permalink)
                                                  ZOMBIE THREAD - A thread, back from the dead. 
                                                   
                                                  I don't even recall posting on this one.
                                                   
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                                                    ann peeples

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                                                    Re:The most overblown drink Thu, 11/24/11 5:39 PM (permalink)
                                                    President Grant was rumored, when he was a general in the army, to drink alot.Others complained to President Lincoln about it. Abe said" If he drinks and does what he does, then let me send all the other generals a case of liquor." Love that attitude.
                                                     
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                                                      SpicyCheese

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                                                      Re:The most overblown drink Thu, 11/24/11 11:07 PM (permalink)
                                                      Anybody hear Lewis Black's routine about Wisconsin drinkers?  If you get a chance, listen to it, because it's funny as hell. 
                                                       
                                                      But he mentions Brandy Old Fashions and how we're the only people who drink those.  Is that true? 
                                                       
                                                      Also, Jaegarmeister.  We drink a ton of that around here and it's gotten a bit out of control.  Everybody's doing Jaegar bombs and whatnot.  Is that true in your part of the country?
                                                       
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                                                        MetroplexJim

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                                                        Re:The most overblown drink Fri, 11/25/11 8:14 AM (permalink)
                                                        Coffee in the morning, iced tea with lunch and dinner, Evan Williams Black after six.  Most anything else is overblown.
                                                         
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                                                          MetroplexJim

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                                                          Re:The most overblown drink Fri, 11/25/11 8:32 AM (permalink)
                                                          Routinely, black coffee in the morning, iced tea with lunch and dinner, Evan Williams Black after six.  Most anything else is overblown.
                                                           
                                                          That said, there are occasions for beer (beach, golf course, ballgames, pizza joints), Coca Cola, milk, and wine.
                                                           
                                                          The bottom line is to know what you are drinking.  In general, "cocktails" are meant in some way or another to disguise what and how much you are drinking.  That is an invitation to a headache, and worse.
                                                           
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                                                            SeamusD

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                                                            Re:The most overblown drink Fri, 12/2/11 2:38 PM (permalink)
                                                            I like mojitos also, but that's as fanciful as I'll get. It's a great drink on a hot summer night. I've never gone in for "popular" drinks or whatever is the latest hot thing, or anything that would make a bartender roll their eyes when ordering it.
                                                             
                                                            I really like bourbon, so on occasion I'll have a Jim Beam with ginger ale (Vernor's if I make it at home) and lemon, in a pint glass.
                                                             
                                                            SpicyCheese, Jager bombs are big around here, and I've been known to do one on occasion. I prefer Jagermeister straight and unchilled though if I'm going to do a shot of something.
                                                             
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