The worst Pizza

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2004/10/05 13:52:00 (permalink)

The worst Pizza

There are all kinds of posts about who makes the best, but is there any such thing as a bad pizza? I have had good, very good,excellent, and maybe the best, but I can't recall ever getting bad one. I'm talking legitimate store made pizza here, not some premade or frozen junk.
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    Lucky Bishop
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    RE: The worst Pizza 2004/10/05 15:53:25 (permalink)
    Village Pizza in Bernalillo, New Mexico. I actually became a food writer because I was having a conversation with the food editor at the alt-weekly I worked for (in the music department) about how godawful this pizza was that I'd had the night before, and she stopped me halfway and said, "Would you like to work for me?"
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    RE: The worst Pizza 2004/10/05 15:59:13 (permalink)
    Any pizza in South Boston. A mecca for BAD, nasty, greasy, gloppy pizza.
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    RE: The worst Pizza 2004/10/05 16:06:07 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by tmiles

    There are all kinds of posts about who makes the best, but is there any such thing as a bad pizza? I have had good, very good,excellent, and maybe the best, but I can't recall ever getting bad one. I'm talking legitimate store made pizza here, not some premade or frozen junk.


    Vitales Pizza Ada, Michigan leads the pack!
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    RE: The worst Pizza 2004/10/05 16:27:59 (permalink)
    Little Ceasars.........yucky yucky!
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    RE: The worst Pizza 2004/10/05 16:33:27 (permalink)
    The North Woods of Wisconsin and Minnesota. I've never had a decent pizza there...ever! The only thing they get right is the cheese. That's it.
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    RE: The worst Pizza 2004/10/06 10:17:58 (permalink)
    Oh, Papa Johns is the example I can call to memory. 7-11 pizza tastes better than that stuff.
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    RE: The worst Pizza 2004/10/06 10:28:20 (permalink)
    Actually, there is already a fairly vitriolic thread on this subject: http://roadfood.com/Forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1339
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    RE: The worst Pizza 2004/10/06 10:28:21 (permalink)
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    RE: The worst Pizza 2004/10/06 10:30:26 (permalink)
    http://www.chachich.com/mdchachi/jpizza.html

    "Ideal Taste of Sea Goodness and Mayonnaise!"
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    RE: The worst Pizza 2004/10/06 12:21:20 (permalink)
    Israeli pizza.. carboard, tomato paste and kosher, half frozen cheese.. mmmm mighty fine eating
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    RE: The worst Pizza 2004/10/06 13:55:44 (permalink)

    Pizza MREs ??...
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    RE: The worst Pizza 2004/10/06 19:11:17 (permalink)
    Pizza in the Seattle WA area.
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    RE: The worst Pizza 2004/10/06 19:41:34 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by IansMom

    Israeli pizza.. carboard, tomato paste and kosher, half frozen cheese.. mmmm mighty fine eating


    Some of the best pizza I ever had was at Rimini Pizza on Mt. Carmel in Haifa!
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    RE: The worst Pizza 2004/10/06 21:40:21 (permalink)
    I think the main chains are terrible. Domino's, Pizza Hut. This stuff does not even resemble pizza; every element of it is different. But then, I come from New Jersey.

    My second nomination would be Pizza Lunchables. What is the matter with kids, that they would want to eat a cold, sweetish disc of dough with cold bland red sauce, processed grated cheese, and sick-looking pink pepperoni discs? The power of marketing. Yeeuch.
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    RE: The worst Pizza 2004/10/08 21:33:47 (permalink)
    I know i'm sad but I like 'Chefboyardee' and 'Appian Way' pizza.

    One of the hardships of living in a small West Virginian town.
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    RE: The worst Pizza 2004/10/11 09:12:20 (permalink)
    Just saw on CNBC the chairman of Domino's, David Brandon, rolling out their "first new product since going public almost 90 days ago": a double decker, double cheese, double crust thing.

    Mercy.

    Frank
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    RE: The worst Pizza 2004/10/11 09:20:48 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by fcbaldwin

    Just saw on CNBC the chairman of Domino's, David Brandon, rolling out their "first new product since going public almost 90 days ago": a double decker, double cheese, double crust thing.

    Mercy.

    Frank



    I think that there was an article about this in yesterday's New York Times (and linking a great "Seinfeld" line to as much) but I thought it was Pizza Hut.
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    RE: The worst Pizza 2004/10/11 09:33:06 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by wanderingjew

    Pizza in the Seattle WA area.


    Ditto
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    RE: The worst Pizza 2004/10/11 09:43:03 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by i95

    quote:
    Originally posted by fcbaldwin

    Just saw on CNBC the chairman of Domino's, David Brandon, rolling out their "first new product since going public almost 90 days ago": a double decker, double cheese, double crust thing.

    Mercy.

    Frank



    I think that there was an article about this in yesterday's New York Times (and linking a great "Seinfeld" line to as much) but I thought it was Pizza Hut.


    Oops. It was Dominos and here it is, FYI:


    October 10, 2004
    THE GOODS
    Where's the Cheese? Everywhere
    By BRENDAN I. KOERNER

    N a memorable episode of "Seinfeld,'' the character of Elaine Benes is in awe of stuffed-crust pizza. "It'll be years before they find places to hide more cheese on pizza," she marvels, in praise of the mozzarella-filled Pizza Hut delicacy that made its debut in 1995.

    Elaine would be pleased to learn that pizza innovation continues apace. In terms of cheesy zing per square inch, stuffed-crust pizzas pale in comparison with the new Doublemelt from Domino's Pizza. Offered in two sizes, the pizza has two thin crusts glued together with a potent cheese-and-herb sauce, then slathered with a six-cheese blend.

    "This probably has more blast of cheese flavor than any pizza we've ever rolled out," said David A. Brandon, Domino's chief executive. During the introduction, the 12-inch variety is $9.99, or $14.99 for two, and the 14-inch is $11.99, or $18.99 for two.

    Though the Doublemelt was introduced nationwide just two weeks ago, its story began in 1997. That is when it was concocted by a Domino's franchisee in Japan and sold under the brand name Mille Feuille, after the layered French pastry. The idea spread to Taiwan in 2002, where the pizza was renamed the Double Decker. Domino's franchises in South Korea followed the next year, using Double Crust as the name.

    This is not the first time that an American pizza chain has taken a cue from a foreign market. Steve Coomes, editor of PizzaMarketplace.com, an industry news site, said that Pizza Hut's 4forALL, a square pie divided into quadrants, each with different toppings,was invented by a British franchisee. The product failed in Britain largely because the franchisee lacked the technology to quickly partition the pizzas. But Pizza Hut, owned by Yum Brands Inc. of Louisville, Ky., remedied that problem, and the pie has become a mainstay of its American menu.

    Though the Doublemelt's predecessors have been successful abroad, the product was still tweaked for the American market. The sauce has varied in Asia, with the Taiwanese enjoying a blend of cream cheese and Cheddar, and the Koreans now opting for a viscous mash of Swiss. The original Korean recipe was a bit more pungent: a mixture of cream cheese, Camembert and Gouda.

    That's too much punch for the American palate, Mr. Brandon said. "What we found is that American consumers wanted a more familiar taste," he said. A smoky Gouda flavor, in particular, doesn't go over well in the Heartland, he added.

    To find the ideal sauce, Domino's test kitchen cranked out 1,000 pies, and went through more than 500 pounds of cheese. The exact composition of the winning sauce is secret, but a taste test reveals that cream cheese and garlic figure prominently. (The Doublemelt is somewhat similar to the Pizza Hut Insider, which appeared briefly in the United States two years ago.)

    Domino's has had to work through supply-chain issues: because each Doublemelt requires two thin crusts, the company had to ensure that franchisees had access to enough dough. And great care was taken in picking the Doublemelt name, Mr. Brandon said. The company didn't want to follow Australia's lead, for example, and call it the Double Decadence, a name that might suggest to consumers that the product does their arteries no favors. Each slice of the 12-inch pizza contains 16 grams of fat, versus 5.5 for a plain cheese slice.

    MR. BRANDON called the Doublemelt introduction "very important," given that the pizza is Domino's first new product since it went public in July.

    Even if the Doublemelt is a success, it is hard to imagine the pizza industry dreaming up new places to hide more cheese. Mr. Coomes of PizzaMarketplace.com said inventors might now shift gears and start to tinker with richer blends to satisfy consumers' cheese cravings. "This is a country that loves Gorgonzola and basic bleus," he said. Dark days may be ahead for tomato sauce fans.



    Copyright 2004 The New York Times Company
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    RE: The worst Pizza 2004/10/11 18:45:15 (permalink)
    Gaak, that "Elaine" from "Seinfeld."

    I knew the real person on whom that character is based. Email me directly if you want to know.

    Sorry, now, back to the bad 'za.
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