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Michael Stern

Top 10 Pizzas Thu, 09/23/04 4:45 AM (permalink)
Here's the latest Epicurious challenge: make a list of America's top 10 pizzas. We wish it could have been the top 100 ...

http://www.epicurious.com/restaurants/best_eats/pizza
 
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    lleechef

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    RE: Top 10 Pizzas Thu, 09/23/04 8:05 AM (permalink)
    I'm glad that Santarpio's made the cut! When I lived in South Boston and we wanted pizza, the logical thing was to go to East Boston to Santarpio's. A couple of lamb skewers, a pizza, a beer. Santarpio's is a local hang-out for the Boston City cops and the MA Troopers as well.
     
    #2
      stanpnepa

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      RE: Top 10 Pizzas Thu, 09/23/04 8:12 AM (permalink)
      Nice to see Old Forge represented!! If you like Salerno's, try the legendary Revello's on Main and if still hungry walk across the street to Ghigiarelli's. I grew up here and those are my two favorites. Both are open evenings only (closed Sunday and Monday).
       
      #3
        meowzart

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        RE: Top 10 Pizzas Thu, 09/23/04 9:42 AM (permalink)
        I really don't know how you could narrow it down to just 10.

        You could do a whole Roadfood book just centered around pizza. Have you ever thought about it?
         
        #4
          TJ Jackson

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          RE: Top 10 Pizzas Thu, 09/23/04 9:45 AM (permalink)
          Too many CT pizzas :-)

          (things that make you go hmmmmm)
           
          #5
            Grampy

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            RE: Top 10 Pizzas Thu, 09/23/04 10:40 AM (permalink)
            Michael, how do you compare the two Carminuccio's (Carminucciu's) at this pint?
             
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              10X10

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              RE: Top 10 Pizzas Thu, 09/23/04 11:34 AM (permalink)
              From my first bite of sausage and bacon pizza in 1961 I became a die hard CT. pizza addict. And like many, Pepe's was and probable will always be my sanctuary. So please forgive the following thoughts and observations knowing it comes from my heart.

              I no longer live in the New Haven area but return frequently for family occasions and holidays. During these times I try to arrange a visit to Pepe's to satisfy my craving for some apizza. However the last visits have left me with the unsettling feeling that a change has taken place. I still see the familiar faces serving the pie and recognize Mr. B behind the counter overseeing the operations. But still I walk away making excuses for why the pie just did not live up to my expectations.

              I know that there are many out there that will always argue that Pepe's has long been overtaken by the other places, Sally's, Modern, the spot, Etc. But putting those comments aside...am I imagining the feelings stated above?

              Please, those of you who share my love for Pepe's chime in. Am I just being a little over critical or has the pie changed?
               
              #7
                Michael Stern

                RE: Top 10 Pizzas Thu, 09/23/04 6:30 PM (permalink)
                10x10, we have recently on occasion had a less than stellar Pepe's pie, something that never seemed to happen in the past. My theory is that the chances of that happening are in the first hour the place is open. Maybe the ovens aren't hot enough, or there isn't enough spillage on the oven floor yet.

                Grampy, I haven't done a good comparison of the two Carminucci_ . The last time I went to the Newtown one, Little Carmine wasn't there, but the pizza was nonetheless excellent.

                And Meozart, I would love to do a whole Roadfood book about pizza ... right after the one on hot dogs and the one on roast beef sandwiches and the one on pie. Unfortunately, most publishers aren't all that interested in single-subject guidebooks, figuring there isn't a big enough market to make it worthwhile.

                And finally, we ate leftovers from Modern Apizza last night -- reheated on a pizza stone in the oven -- and they were even better than hot-from-the-oven.
                 
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                  long dog

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                  RE: Top 10 Pizzas Thu, 09/23/04 8:17 PM (permalink)
                  so what was Modern, number 11 ?
                   
                  #9
                    Michael Stern

                    RE: Top 10 Pizzas Fri, 09/24/04 3:40 AM (permalink)
                    quote:
                    Originally posted by long dog

                    so what was Modern, number 11 ?


                    Modern was more like 1.75. We just couldn't list 4 New Haven pizzerias among America's top 10!
                     
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                      chezkatie

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                      RE: Top 10 Pizzas Sat, 09/25/04 3:03 PM (permalink)
                      Really enjoyed reading this list. Michael, if you ever want to do a list of America's worst pizzas, just come on down to the Baltimore-Washington area!
                       
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                        EdSails

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                        RE: Top 10 Pizzas Sat, 09/25/04 3:27 PM (permalink)
                        quote:
                        Originally posted by Michael Stern

                        quote:
                        Originally posted by long dog

                        so what was Modern, number 11 ?


                        Modern was more like 1.75. We just couldn't list 4 New Haven pizzerias among America's top 10!


                        I would chalk that up to regional bias-----but after having spent a week in New Haven eating the different pizzas there, I couldn't agree more------I have never found any pizza here on the West Coast that compares to the pies I had at several places in New Haven. I could easily accept 4 New Haven pizzerias in the Top 10!
                         
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                          enginecapt

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                          RE: Top 10 Pizzas Sat, 09/25/04 6:50 PM (permalink)
                          The only two entries for any place west of Chicago, and they've got to be a Mexican Restaurant serving a tostada grande, and Spagos, serving haute weirdo pizza. ATTENTION THE REST OF THE COUNTRY: There IS good, regular pizza to be had in the West, and for starters I'll begin with two:
                          Sonny's in San Clemente, CA. Owned by the Genovese family, so you'd BETTER like it. The bread (crust) is brushed with garlic infused olive oil before loading.

                          Rizza's in Rancho Cucamonga, CA. A light, medium thick tasty bread topped with a tangy sauce and pepperoni with just the right amount of grease.
                           
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                            Tommy2dogs

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                            RE: Top 10 Pizzas Sat, 09/25/04 8:06 PM (permalink)
                            Curious as to whether Deep Dish was the only Chicago Pizza considered for this article. Someone needs to venture into the neighborhoods to sample "Real" Chicago thin crust which is way more prevalent than deep dish.

                            I feel like I am beating a dead horse, but sooner or later folks will come to realize that Chicago thin crust is some of the best Pizza in the country
                             
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                              wanderingjew

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                              RE: Top 10 Pizzas Sun, 09/26/04 1:35 PM (permalink)
                              quote:
                              Originally posted by enginecapt

                              The only two entries for any place west of Chicago, and they've got to be a Mexican Restaurant serving a tostada grande, and Spagos, serving haute weirdo pizza. ATTENTION THE REST OF THE COUNTRY: There IS good, regular pizza to be had in the West, and for starters I'll begin with two:
                              Sonny's in San Clemente, CA. Owned by the Genovese family, so you'd BETTER like it. The bread (crust) is brushed with garlic infused olive oil before loading.

                              Rizza's in Rancho Cucamonga, CA. A light, medium thick tasty bread topped with a tangy sauce and pepperoni with just the right amount of grease.


                              You know, it's amazing when people in the midwest laugh at those on the East Coast who insist that their local Steak Joint has the best steak in the Country. Or those in the Southwest who snicker at those in the South who think that their local taco bell has the best Mexican Food ever! I lived in Seattle for 3 years from October of 1992 to January of 1996, right at the time that Seattle was deemed hip and trendy. I knew so, so many people who tried to direct me to local Pizza joints that they insisted were the best of the best, just as good as those back in NY. Each and every time I tried to keep an open mind and each and every time I was extremely dissappointed
                               
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                                wndyctygrl

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                                RE: Top 10 Pizzas Fri, 10/1/04 8:45 AM (permalink)
                                I am disappointed that there was only one Chicago Pizza that placed in the top ten. How about Nancy's, Lou Malnati's, Edwardo's, Giordan's, Home Run Inn, Gino's East, Connie's Pizza - just to name a few. These places I have been to in the Chicago area. I have been living in the South for sixteen years..I have not found a Pizza place that I really like. I miss Chicago pizza because of the ingredients - good Italian sausage, stringy mozzarella cheese, oregano, the sauce, the texture of the crust -
                                Everytime I go to Chicago - I try to get to a Pizzeria.
                                 
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                                  UncleVic

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                                  RE: Top 10 Pizzas Fri, 10/1/04 9:01 AM (permalink)
                                  I'm still praying they put one of the top 100 (Mr. Sterns Idea vs. the top 10) in the Grand Rapids area... Pizzas around here have gone weak over the last couple decades... Spent half of September in Indiana, and they know how to make a decent pie! I was bummed all of them didnt make the list...
                                   
                                  #17
                                    Rusty246

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                                    RE: Top 10 Pizzas Fri, 10/1/04 9:08 AM (permalink)
                                    No Colony Grill?? I look at that pizza at least 3 times a week, but then I'm a thin crust nut.
                                     
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                                      greasewheel

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                                      RE: Top 10 Pizzas Fri, 10/1/04 10:44 AM (permalink)
                                      Rusty, I have had all the top CT pizzas and Colony Grill is to this day one of my favorites. It brings the term thin crust to a new (thinner) level. A totally different type of pie!
                                       
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                                        marky

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                                        RE: Top 10 Pizzas Sun, 10/10/04 3:20 PM (permalink)
                                        im in boynton beach florida hail from new jersey grew up with great pizza. down here chinese food is still sub par but brooklyn pizza just opened up thin crusr that snaps when you bite and loaded with cheese.ITS THE REAL THING. if only first class chinese food were available
                                         
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                                          BaconBits

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                                          RE: Top 10 Pizzas Mon, 10/11/04 11:15 AM (permalink)
                                          Lombari's - Spring St between Mulberry and Mott, NY, NY. Best pizza I've ever had. Also order the house salad - doesn't get much better than that!
                                           
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                                            booboobirdie

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                                            RE: Top 10 Pizzas Mon, 10/11/04 11:38 AM (permalink)
                                            Rusty and greasewheel...have you tried BAR on Crown St. in New Haven? AMAZINGLY thin crust (though not as brittle as The Colony Grill...you can't eat the first bite or two off the end without doing "The Fold" or it would flop). Great pizza, great hand-crafted beers, lousy service. Just what you'd expect from a good New Haven pizzeria! The mashed potato-bacon-onion combo has gotten very popular, but the standard red with mozz is out of this world.
                                             
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                                              10X10

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                                              RE: Top 10 Pizzas Mon, 10/11/04 11:59 AM (permalink)
                                              I have heard a lot about BAR but have never tried it, I will admit though, mashed potato's on pizza stikes me as a bit un-New Haven. Alas, I am a bit old fashioned, I can still remember the day's of good apizza being served at Sorrento's and Bemonti's(sp)
                                              quote:
                                              Originally posted by booboobirdie

                                              Rusty and greasewheel...have you tried BAR on Crown St. in New Haven? AMAZINGLY thin crust (though not as brittle as The Colony Grill...you can't eat the first bite or two off the end without doing "The Fold" or it would flop). Great pizza, great hand-crafted beers, lousy service. Just what you'd expect from a good New Haven pizzeria! The mashed potato-bacon-onion combo has gotten very popular, but the standard red with mozz is out of this world.
                                               
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                                                essvee

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                                                RE: Top 10 Pizzas Mon, 10/11/04 12:00 PM (permalink)
                                                I'm interested in the fact that out of ten, three aren't really pizza. Why are the Hot Truck and some joint that makes tostada grandes, not to mention Spago, included on this list? I'd like to know. J&M, after all, are the experts, so if the NE is front-loaded, so be it. Why stretch (get it?) the definition of pizza, the ultimate purist food? Heck, some would argue that Uno doesn't belong, with its cornmeal-yellow crust and the tomatoes on top and the knife and fork and all.

                                                Signed, Forlorn and Stranded in a Pizza Wasteland
                                                 
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                                                  Spudnut

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                                                  RE: Top 10 Pizzas Mon, 10/11/04 1:30 PM (permalink)
                                                  quote:
                                                  Originally posted by marky

                                                  im in boynton beach florida hail from new jersey grew up with great pizza. down here chinese food is still sub par but brooklyn pizza just opened up thin crusr that snaps when you bite and loaded with cheese.ITS THE REAL THING. if only first class chinese food were available



                                                  Is "brooklyn pizza" the name of the place, or simply a description of the style? If it's the latter, can you provide the specific information, please? I make it to South Florida often, and would be curious to know. Thanks.
                                                   
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                                                    peppertree

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                                                    RE: Top 10 Pizzas Mon, 10/11/04 8:52 PM (permalink)
                                                    I know of a good place further south on Federal Highway (US 1). It is in Pompano Beach. I think it is called Brothers.

                                                    The place looks like it is right out of a busy street in Brooklyn. Inside and out. The pizza there is on a par with Brooklyn and their other Italian foods are good as well.

                                                    I also want to know the Boynton Beach place. My parents live in Lake Worth.
                                                     
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                                                      acer2x

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                                                      RE: Top 10 Pizzas Mon, 10/11/04 9:28 PM (permalink)
                                                      Michael

                                                      What about Taconelli's in Philadelphia? Thin, crispy crust. Old brick oven. Someday, I'll make it to New Haven. From a local review:

                                                      Taconellis

                                                      Address: 2604 East Somerset Street, Philadelphia 19134
                                                      Phone: 215-425-4983
                                                      Type of food: Pizza
                                                      Hours: Wed. - Sun. 4:30PM - 9:00PM
                                                      Price range of main entrees: $10-$18
                                                      Comments: Made to order pizzas. Can get spinach and tomato without cheese: or tomato without cheese. Must call ahead to order pizza dough and make reservations. Extremely casual. BYOB. They serve sodas. Best pizza you will ever have!

                                                       
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                                                        peppertree

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                                                        RE: Top 10 Pizzas Fri, 10/15/04 6:44 PM (permalink)
                                                        quote:
                                                        Originally posted by peppertree

                                                        I know of a good place further south on Federal Highway (US 1). It is in Pompano Beach. I think it is called Brothers.

                                                        The place looks like it is right out of a busy street in Brooklyn. Inside and out. The pizza there is on a par with Brooklyn and their other Italian foods are good as well.

                                                        I also want to know the Boynton Beach place. My parents live in Lake Worth.


                                                        Update...The pizza is at

                                                        Pizza Mia
                                                        3919 Federal Highway
                                                        Pompano Beach, Florida
                                                        Phone: 954-785-8938

                                                        Caution, addresses do not necessarily have continuity between different communities along Federal Highway (US 1).
                                                         
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                                                          essvee

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                                                          RE: Top 10 Pizzas Fri, 10/15/04 8:40 PM (permalink)
                                                          Michael, why are two of the ten items on your list not pizza?
                                                           
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                                                            64Colors

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                                                            RE: Top 10 Pizzas Mon, 12/6/04 5:43 PM (permalink)
                                                            My favorite, and at least top 100 worthy, is Amici's pizza. Originally in Royal Oak, Mi they recently moved a couple miles to downtown Berkley, MI on 12 mile rd.. both are suburbs of Detroit.

                                                            They have amazing pizza, the secret being in the sauce made from fresh tomatoes and herbs (no canned or dried stuff) and their excellent dough.

                                                            I was drawn to them because they are one of the only pizzarias I've seen to have vegan pizza on the menu.. normally a pretty bland choice for pizza, soy-cheese just doesn't cut it. My favorite has roasted garlic cloves, walnuts, basil, fresh tomato, and artichoke hearts.. and I think it's even better than my favorites from the meat-eating days; Pizzaria UNO and Giordanos in Chicago. I've had friends not even realize that there was no cheese until they were done with the meal because they were just so impressed with the flavor!

                                                            Definitely worth a visit next time you're in Detroit, they also recently added a nice cocktail lounge.. nothing like a Bombay Sapphire martini to go with some breadsticks and garlic tomato marinara.
                                                             
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