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Michael Hoffman

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Re:Unpasteurized Cider Tue, 09/29/09 1:31 PM (permalink)
NYPIzzaNut


Should I just post the link to it do you think (like members do here regularly and frequently to copyright protected sites and data?)


Here's the way it works: It is permissible to post 10 percent of a copyrighted work or 500 words, whichever is less, as long as you provide attribution. The safest way to post something that is copyrighted is to post an attributed sentence or two along with a link.
 
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    Greymo

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    Re:Unpasteurized Cider Tue, 09/29/09 3:02 PM (permalink)
    Does anyone know if the  "uv treated" cider fements like the unpasteurized does?
     
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      NYPIzzaNut

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      Re:Unpasteurized Cider Tue, 09/29/09 3:04 PM (permalink)
      Indubitably.
       
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        seafarer john

        Re:Unpasteurized Cider Tue, 09/29/09 6:27 PM (permalink)
        While I thank NYPIN for posting that report, I'm not about to read the whole damn thing and I doubt that more than two other roadfooders are up to the punishment - so I don't think copywrite infringement is a big deal in this matter.

        Cheers, John 
         
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          Michael Hoffman

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          Re:Unpasteurized Cider Tue, 09/29/09 7:06 PM (permalink)
          seafarer john
           

          ...  so I don't think copywrite infringement is a big deal in this matter.

          Cheers, John 

          It is if you're the one being sured.

           
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            Re:Unpasteurized Cider Thu, 10/1/09 3:56 PM (permalink)
            Greymo


            Does anyone know if the  "uv treated" cider fements like the unpasteurized does?

            Add a dash of champaign yeast and give it 2 weeks in a cool basement, you'll have your buzz going in no time.
             
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              Michael Hoffman

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              Re:Unpasteurized Cider Thu, 10/1/09 4:06 PM (permalink)
              WarToad


              Greymo


              Does anyone know if the  "uv treated" cider fements like the unpasteurized does?

              Add a dash of champaign yeast and give it 2 weeks in a cool basement, you'll have your buzz going in no time.

              My father used to stick jugs of cider in a snowbank in our yard and it wouldn't be long before we had great hard cider.
               
               
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                saps

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                Re:Unpasteurized Cider Thu, 10/1/09 4:44 PM (permalink)
                You don't need to answer Hoffman.  If he were truly concerned, he would have PM'd you instead of trying to make you foolish.
                 
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                  Michael Hoffman

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                  Re:Unpasteurized Cider Thu, 10/1/09 5:49 PM (permalink)
                  saps


                  You don't need to answer Hoffman.  If he were truly concerned, he would have PM'd you instead of trying to make you foolish.

                  Just exactly whatinhell are you talking about?

                   
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                    WarToad

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                    Re:Unpasteurized Cider Thu, 10/1/09 6:06 PM (permalink)
                    Michael Hoffman


                    WarToad


                    Greymo


                    Does anyone know if the  "uv treated" cider fements like the unpasteurized does?

                    Add a dash of champaign yeast and give it 2 weeks in a cool basement, you'll have your buzz going in no time.

                    My father used to stick jugs of cider in a snowbank in our yard and it wouldn't be long before we had great hard cider.
                     


                    That would have then been unpasturized cider with natural yeasts still alive.
                     
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                      Greymo

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                      Re:Unpasteurized Cider Thu, 10/1/09 6:22 PM (permalink)
                      Michael Hoffman


                      saps


                      You don't need to answer Hoffman.  If he were truly concerned, he would have PM'd you instead of trying to make you foolish.

                      Just exactly whatinhell are you talking about?

                       
                                          
                      I think it means that poor Saps has no sense of humor,  or else  had too many  pre-dinner cocktails.

                       
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                        Michael Hoffman

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                        Re:Unpasteurized Cider Thu, 10/1/09 7:07 PM (permalink)
                        WarToad


                        Michael Hoffman


                        WarToad


                        Greymo


                        Does anyone know if the  "uv treated" cider fements like the unpasteurized does?

                        Add a dash of champaign yeast and give it 2 weeks in a cool basement, you'll have your buzz going in no time.

                        My father used to stick jugs of cider in a snowbank in our yard and it wouldn't be long before we had great hard cider.



                        That would have then been unpasturized cider with natural yeasts still alive.

                        Oh, right. I wasn't suggesting you could do that with pasturized cider. I was just talking about what my father used to do.

                         
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                          rebeltruce

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                          Re:Unpasteurized Cider Thu, 10/1/09 8:19 PM (permalink)
                          My Pap used to sit a couple jugs out on the backporch, a week or so and look out! He'd poke some holes in the lids so that the jugs wouldn't explode.

                          A glass or two and all was right with the world.....LOL!
                           
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                            eruby

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                            Re:Unpasteurized Cider Fri, 10/2/09 8:41 AM (permalink)
                            The excellent unpasteurized cider at Baugher's in Westminster, MD has this:
                             
                            "FDA required warning: This product has not been pasteurized and, therefore, may contain harmful bacteria that can cause serious illness in children, the elderly, and persons with weakened immune systems."
                             
                             
                             
                             
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                              Re:Unpasteurized Cider Fri, 10/2/09 8:49 AM (permalink)
                              Baughers   is  where we purchased our cider the other day.  We picked  60 pounds of apples first which is really fun for the kids.  They were ready for cider after all that picking!
                               
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                                Re:Unpasteurized Cider Mon, 10/5/09 3:50 PM (permalink)
                                Picked up my second gallon ($6) of unpasturized cider of the season at Phantom Farms in Cumberland, RI this past week.  Simply Outstanding.  I was curious to see if the second gallon would be as good as the first.  It was.

                                Ran out mid week and bought some pasturized cider from Jaswells at a local grocer.  After having the real stuff, it was a poor substitute.
                                 
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                                  Re:Unpasteurized Cider Mon, 10/5/09 6:06 PM (permalink)
                                  Our gallon of UV treated cider at A & M Farm Orchard in Midland OH goes for $4.
                                   
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                                    Greymo

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                                    Re:Unpasteurized Cider Mon, 10/5/09 6:15 PM (permalink)
                                    I believe that we pay $4.95 for  our cider and it  is worth every penny.  The kids had it this morning with pancakes and their grandfather's pure New York State maple syrup.
                                    <message edited by Greymo on Mon, 10/5/09 6:16 PM>
                                     
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                                      Michael Hoffman

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                                      Re:Unpasteurized Cider Mon, 10/5/09 7:21 PM (permalink)
                                      Greymo


                                      I believe that we pay $4.95 for  our cider and it  is worth every penny.  The kids had it this morning with pancakes and their grandfather's pure New York State maple syrup.


                                      Why did they take their poor old grandfather's syrup away from him?
                                       
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                                        Re:Unpasteurized Cider Mon, 11/30/09 3:33 PM (permalink)
                                        We have been buying fresh unpasturized cider from Dartmouth Orchards on Westport Rd in Dartmouth, Mass. In this state unpasturized cider can be sold direct retail only (no wholesale or resale). It is an excellent product, and got better as the season went on. The Thanksgiving product was great. They are open up through Christmas.

                                        I still have our old press, and may start making cider again next year. I had been under the (wrong) impression that I had to pasturize for all sales. 
                                         
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                                          Re:Unpasteurized Cider Tue, 12/1/09 12:00 AM (permalink)
                                          WarToad


                                          Greymo


                                          Does anyone know if the  "uv treated" cider fements like the unpasteurized does?

                                          Add a dash of champaign yeast and give it 2 weeks in a cool basement, you'll have your buzz going in no time.


                                          Then after 2 weeks, give it a good pinch of yeast nutrient, 1 cup of sugar, and buzz would be an understatement a couple weeks later!!

                                          Thats one thing I miss about Michigan, my buddies apple orchard... No more fresh squeezed cider.. No more fresh off the tree apples for pie.. (and neither was UV, Pasteurized or Pesticide treated).

                                          Are there apple trees in Florida, or am I stuck fermenting oranges and mango's now??
                                           
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                                            Re:Unpasteurized Cider Thu, 12/3/09 6:22 AM (permalink)
                                            I've got 5 gallons of Apple Wine or Apfelwein going now, along with a 5 gallon batch of sweet cider should end up tasting simliar to Hornsby's, and a 5 gallon batch of a recipe called Thor's Hammer.

                                            Pasteurization doesn't really affect fermentation...it's the preservatives you've got to watch out for. So long as your cider or AJ only contains juice, and vitamin C you are set to go. It can even be from concentrate, although 100% juice not from concentrate is my choice.
                                             
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                                              Re:Unpasteurized Cider Wed, 12/9/09 10:39 AM (permalink)
                                              UncleVic


                                              WarToad


                                              Greymo


                                              Does anyone know if the  "uv treated" cider fements like the unpasteurized does?

                                              Add a dash of champaign yeast and give it 2 weeks in a cool basement, you'll have your buzz going in no time.
                                               ....
                                              Thats one thing I miss about Michigan, my buddies apple orchard... No more fresh squeezed cider.. No more fresh off the tree apples for pie.. (and neither was UV, Pasteurized or Pesticide treated).

                                              Are there apple trees in Florida, or am I stuck fermenting oranges and mango's now??

                                              Apples will grow as far south as Orlando (at least) if you plant "low chill" kinds. Most of them were developed in Israel. "Anna" and "Ein Shemir" (sp?) are two of the most popular. You will need to plant 2 (3 is better) for pollination. Several companies specialize in low chill apples.
                                               
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