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jajarino68

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Vanishing Dairy Queen Sat, 03/26/11 9:02 AM (permalink)
My hometown Dairy Queen that had been in business for close to 20 years closed down last year. I drove through an adjacent town and saw that their Dairy Queen had also closed. I know of only one other Dairy Queen in my region and I'm hoping it is not closed as well.
 
I'd read sometime back that franchisees were not happy with the corporate move to the Chill & Grill concept. Could this be part of that fallout? Are Dairy Queen's disappearing in your area as well?
 
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    BBurge

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    Re:Vanishing Dairy Queen Sat, 03/26/11 9:32 AM (permalink)
    They are not disappearing here. All of the ones i can think of locally are still in business. As a matter of fact one of them just did a complete remodel inside and out.
     
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      joerogo

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      Re:Vanishing Dairy Queen Sat, 03/26/11 9:39 AM (permalink)
      jajarino68, Could be one franchiser going under.  
       
      I have an idiot cousin who lost five Dunkin Donuts franchises.  The places did well, but he was an idiot.
       
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        DawnT

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        Re:Vanishing Dairy Queen Sat, 03/26/11 10:55 AM (permalink)
        Maybe not an idiot Joe. DD did a very thorough job of eviscerating their non-corporate franchisees in favor of the huge, multi-unit corporations to expand rapidly.
         
        I don't know what this Chill and Grill concept is, but it sounds suspicously like their earlier historic blunder that shuttered countless mom and pop DQ's during the 60's with their Braizer concept. They were quite plentiful around here up to the mid 60's with a few of the franchisees remodeling and adopting the disconnected dining room and fast food concept that failed miserably. I was very surprised to see DQ's thriving when I moved up to TN for the first time in the early 80's as ice cream only windowfront stores like the originals. Sounds like history is repeating itself again. 
         
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          Sundancer7

          Re:Vanishing Dairy Queen Sat, 03/26/11 12:22 PM (permalink)
          The one close to Knoxville closed.  It did a bang up business.  Why?  I do not know.
           
          Paul E. Smith
          Knoxville, TN
           
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            jajarino68

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            Re:Vanishing Dairy Queen Sat, 03/26/11 1:03 PM (permalink)
            Sundancer, you and I are in the same area. The Maryville store closed and now I find out that the Lenoir City store is gone. I went to the DQ website and used their locater.  I could find only 2 in the Knoxville area, Emory Rd. and Loves Creek Rd. I remember there being one in Sevierville on Dolly Parton Pkwy, but it did not show up.
             
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              chefbuba

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              Re:Vanishing Dairy Queen Sat, 03/26/11 1:26 PM (permalink)
              My town of 20,000 supports two of them, along with FOUR Starbucks!
              <message edited by chefbuba on Sat, 03/26/11 1:27 PM>
               
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                Foodbme

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                Re:Vanishing Dairy Queen Sun, 03/27/11 3:27 AM (permalink)
                The DQ's in our area are alive and well. Most of them are the old concept but there's a few of the new Chill & Grills. Haven't been to a Chill & Grill yet but will do so soon as a result of reading this thread.  My perception is that it will be more expensive than the old DQ's. Got my curiosity peaked! I go for their cheap 2-fer Chili Dogs when I'm lookin' for a snack. Fills the need for something quick & cheap. Sonic's buck 99 dog may put a dent in DQ's dog business.
                 
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                  Curbside Grill

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                  Re:Vanishing Dairy Queen Sun, 03/27/11 5:23 AM (permalink)
                  Our DQ is going strong here in. Don't frequent the place personally, but drive thru and parking lot 75% full everytime we cruise by.
                  THE 2 item for $3, 3 for $4 and 4 for $5   quess is the draw.
                  <message edited by Curbside Grill on Sun, 03/27/11 5:26 AM>
                   
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                    claracamille

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                    Re:Vanishing Dairy Queen Sun, 03/27/11 9:59 AM (permalink)
                    Dairy Queens are not closing in my area.  The ice cream seems the same, I don't go there for hamburgers, etc.
                    As long as I can get banana split blizzards & Moolattes(darn my sister for introducing them to me!!!), I am happy.  Also, darn Dairy Queen for making the Moolattes 1/2 price in the afternoon!!!
                     
                     
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                      kland01s

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                      Re:Vanishing Dairy Queen Sun, 03/27/11 11:35 AM (permalink)
                      Our DQ was just ice cream, no food items in a walk up/drive up small building. The people who had the franchise bought it out and operate independently. They ran a contest to come up with a new name and Moo-la-la won some one a summer of free ice cream.
                      <message edited by kland01s on Sun, 03/27/11 11:37 AM>
                       
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                        DawnT

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                        Re:Vanishing Dairy Queen Sun, 03/27/11 12:41 PM (permalink)
                        I just can see a corporate lawyer salivating.
                         
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                          1bbqboy

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                          Re:Vanishing Dairy Queen Sun, 03/27/11 1:02 PM (permalink)
                           
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                            edwmax

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                            Re:Vanishing Dairy Queen Sun, 03/27/11 3:09 PM (permalink)
                            Sundancer7


                            The one close to Knoxville closed.  It did a bang up business.  Why?  I do not know.

                            Paul E. Smith
                            Knoxville, TN

                            Prob. because of their franchise agreement.    I think about every 20 years the store has to remodel to current DQ requirements and renew the franchise agreement.  For the lucky ones, the Grill & Chill remodel is only $500K, plus.   The Grill & Chill royalties is 4% and the Grill & Chill Restaurant is 6%; plus promotions 5-6% of sales.
                             
                            So for many stores in small towns this may be a problem even if the store is turning a profit now.   The remodel would require at least a 15% increase in business to payback.
                            <message edited by edwmax on Sun, 03/27/11 3:10 PM>
                             
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                              edwmax

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                              Re:Vanishing Dairy Queen Sun, 03/27/11 3:17 PM (permalink)
                              Oh, also ... any DQ that has been closed 6 months or more, must remodel before reopening.  ... If Corp. DQ hasn't changed their policy.
                               
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                                HollyDolly

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                                Re:Vanishing Dairy Queen Mon, 03/28/11 1:15 PM (permalink)
                                None of the Dairy Queens around here have closed.The one in Schertz and Live Oak are still going strong,don't know about some of the other places around here like Seguin, New Braunfels,etc. Course  in places like that that are county seats they might do alright. I guess the one in Lavernia east of San Antonio on US Hwy 87 is still going strong.Course Lavernia is now turing into a bedroom community of San Antonio and even has an H.E.B.Grocerystore. No Walmart since there's one in Floresville, but who knows, it could happen.
                                 
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                                  DawnT

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                                  Re:Vanishing Dairy Queen Mon, 03/28/11 2:40 PM (permalink)
                                  I wondered about this. There are only two locations in S.Fl and I think one up in North Dade. The location that's not too far from me has gone unchanged for the past 45 years that I know of and a relic of the past in architecture. They have the DQ logo on the location, but it's a front window serve location that has nothing but ice cream and no other fast food products like the old DQ's of the 50's and 60's. From the looks of the building, it does look like they did at one time add on on of the original Brazier dining areas off to the side, but it apparently hasn't been used as such as long as I can remember. It appears to be operated by a family that also lives in the building. 
                                   
                                  http://media1.px.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/l01eCyTQqBUMiMAlOZ1SBA/l 


                                  Prob. because of their franchise agreement.    I think about every 20 years the store has to remodel to current DQ requirements and renew the franchise agreement. 
                                   
                                   
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                                    fishtaco

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                                    Re:Vanishing Dairy Queen Mon, 03/28/11 2:52 PM (permalink)
                                    We still have a couple the real old DQ's around here that still close during the winter. No inside seating. Just a walkup window.
                                     
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                                      HotDogHead

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                                      Re:Vanishing Dairy Queen Mon, 03/28/11 4:47 PM (permalink)
                                      I remember the good old DQ days.  They had great ice cream treats.  Then, when doing road trips back in the 70's era, there would be billboards touting burgers, dogs and the infamous "chicken basket" photos with toast and gravy.  My sisters and I would always shout out to Dad to pull over there (God forbid not McDonalds; as that was a real treat as well for my father and sisters in general).  Excellent food in small; off the beaten path franchises back in the day. 
                                       
                                      We did have a local DQ in town here; suburban Denver.  It was great for a Blizzard, sundae and such.  In fact, they did a decent hotdog and fries.  It closed.  We still have some around.  Just like everything else though, not the same old quality food.  I don't think it has to do with the corporation; just the shortcuts and cost cutting in today's society.
                                       
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                                        ces1948

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                                        Re:Vanishing Dairy Queen Mon, 03/28/11 8:32 PM (permalink)
                                        Well I thought we had one in Jensen Beach, Fl but it's long gone and the space is occupied by another restaurant. The sign is still up but the business is gone. We get that a lot around here in the strip centers.
                                         
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                                          edwmax

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                                          Re:Vanishing Dairy Queen Tue, 03/29/11 3:12 PM (permalink)
                                          DawnT
                                          ........

                                          http://media1.px.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/l01eCyTQqBUMiMAlOZ1SBA/l 


                                          Prob. because of their franchise agreement.    I think about every 20 years the store has to remodel to current DQ requirements and renew the franchise agreement. 


                                           
                                          Ah .. the old A-frame roof style   ... The signs look to be the late 80's Brazer style.    This store must be working under an old franchise agreement that was extended.    ... Most franchise contracts since the 80s (??) are for 20 years.
                                           
                                          Anyway, I did a remodeling design drawing for two locale stores 5 years ago and that is what the Corporate Engineering told me about the Franchise and required remodeling.
                                           
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                                            ces1948

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                                            Re:Vanishing Dairy Queen Tue, 03/29/11 5:16 PM (permalink)
                                            I happened to see a Dairy Queen today at the Sebastian, Fl exit on I-95 so I had to make a stop. This one still had the Brazier signs and was located in a BP station that was also a Stuckey's . Had a dbl cheeseburger original which comes with mustard, pickles and ketchup, fries and a soft drink. The burger looked wonderful but although it was OK it did look better then it tasted. The fries were good. The combo was very reasonable at about $5.50.
                                            Had a look around the Stuckeys and saw some of the old candies like the pecan roll.
                                            Not many customers though the Mcdonalds across the road was pretty busy.
                                             
                                             
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                                              DawnT

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                                              Re:Vanishing Dairy Queen Tue, 03/29/11 5:16 PM (permalink)
                                              My dad claims that stores been there as long as he can remember heading to the Keys, so that's at least 50-55 years. They did the Brazier remodeling  IIRC around '66-'67 where they modernized the building and built the side enclosed/AC dining rooms that weren't connected directly to the prep/serving. This photo looks like that, but I never recall any other A frame building DQ's around here. Only places I remember having that architecture were the old Golden Point burger joints. This place supposably doesn't even have a cash register according to posters on Yelp and appears to playing to their own tune rather then corporate's in the preparation of the products. I get the impression that they are preparing the treats like they were done years ago rather then the way they are prepared now.
                                               
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                                                MellowRoast

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                                                Re:Vanishing Dairy Queen Wed, 03/30/11 7:07 AM (permalink)
                                                Fortunately, I haven't seen any DQs close in my area and hope not to.  I love their soft serve and nearly always stop when driving by one.  Americana at its best.
                                                 
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                                                  MiamiDon

                                                  Re:Vanishing Dairy Queen Wed, 03/30/11 9:29 AM (permalink)
                                                  Dawn, there appear to be fifteen DQ's in the county.  The one on US-1 just north of Kendall Drive looks to be the same as it was in 1970 when I lived a couple of blocks away from it.
                                                   
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                                                    DawnT

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                                                    Re:Vanishing Dairy Queen Wed, 03/30/11 10:34 AM (permalink)
                                                    That's the location I posted in the photo above by Dadeland Don.  Only three come up on the google map. This one on Dixie, another on Ludlum and Bird, and another up in North Dade. DQ's locator shows the others for a 10 mi radius. I didn't realize there was so many.
                                                     
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                                                      WarToad

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                                                      Re:Vanishing Dairy Queen Wed, 03/30/11 10:51 AM (permalink)
                                                      We still have one here in town.  Love the place, kind of takes me back to childhood.  It may be a chain, but at least they do what they do decently well.
                                                       
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                                                        MiamiDon

                                                        Re:Vanishing Dairy Queen Wed, 03/30/11 11:13 AM (permalink)
                                                        DawnT


                                                        That's the location I posted in the photo above by Dadeland Don.  Only three come up on the google map. This one on Dixie, another on Ludlum and Bird, and another up in North Dade. DQ's locator shows the others for a 10 mi radius. I didn't realize there was so many.


                                                        I used a 50 mile radius, and just counted the ones in Miami-Dade.  Most appear to be storefronts in strip shopping centers.  One is in Southland mall.  If the list is accurate, none are Grill & Chills.
                                                         
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                                                          bartl

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                                                          Re:Vanishing Dairy Queen Wed, 03/30/11 5:20 PM (permalink)
                                                          I happen to like the Brazier Burgers, as fast food burgers go. None of the several Dairy Queens in my area (including one in easy walking distance) have the grill; two have hot dogs, but no burgers. And the nearest one that has burgers is so close to a couple of my favorite restaurants that I simply don't eat there.
                                                           
                                                          Oh, well.
                                                           
                                                          Bart
                                                           
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                                                            ces1948

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                                                            Re:Vanishing Dairy Queen Wed, 03/30/11 6:14 PM (permalink)
                                                            There is a combo Orange Julius/Dairy Queen in the food court of the Vero Beach, Fl Indian River mall. No grill. As far as I know they only have hotdogs as hot food.
                                                             
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