WHAT DO YOU THINK OUR GOVERMENT SHOULD BE DOING??

i think taking care of the good ol USA problems before medaling in other world crap.....thats spending our tax dollars and lining thier pockets...........
WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK???

We all like to think that..
For some reason, the USA has to stick their nose in the worlds biz...... And for a good reason.........
The rest of the world likes to stick their nose in our biz also.

Karma is a good thing, but as they say, all is fair in love and war.

Peace time is a thing of the past in my lifetime....

Not a doomsdayer, but.............history speaks for itself.

I just to prefer to die before someone sets off a nuke.
I dont want to live with that aftermath.....Hopefully, the earth will blow up before things get too bad.

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Originally posted by unabashed

i think taking care of the good ol USA problems before medaling in other world crap.....thats spending our tax dollars and lining thier pockets...........
WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK???

I could also go for some old-time isolationism, but I think that this is not likely to happen. And, unfortunately, our recent record of meddling in world affairs is such that we could not be considered to be in the category of "medaling".

I think they should raise taxes on anybody who isn't currently on welfare, to the point where all are on welfare. Only then will we all be on a level playing field. We won't be able to afford a ball, but at least the field will be level.

I think we need to revolt and start all over again - like they did at the Boston Tea Party. Unfortunately, government's too big, and there are too many special interests to allow that. We are at near anarchy folks, when those who have no tax burden outnumber those who pay taxes - why would they vote for any tax increase on themselves, or a decrease in high wage earners tax rate.
BTW - the Fair Tax proposal would go a long way in solving most of our issues. <www.fairtax.org>

I can understand what everyone is saying here, but!
It's a world economy and unfortunatley we require the goods and services from other nations.
Think of it as a big chess game. Even though you may disagree with our spending with other goverments it's a given fact that we could not survive with out them. Chow Jim

My perspective is basically that if we can't do what the libertarians want and just everybody keep their own money and take care of their own problems--and we can't, there would be riots if there weren't basic public services--then I expect to get something for what I pay for. I don't have a problem with 'big government' as long as it does its job well for me. I have a problem with 'big government' if it's only working for people who have more money than me--and right now, that's who the government works for. I think that's neither liberal nor conservative, and pretty reasonable.

Oddly enough, I just has a long discussion with my boss on this topic. His position was to scrap everything and start over, as he is a min-archist (I think that is what he called himself). Personally, I would just like to reform the system (if that is even possible). The only problem is all the loop holes. I currently work at a facility that has quite a bit of interaction with the state (due to the fact that we are residential facility for the developmentally disabled) and the one thing I am amazed at is all the loop holes and the amazing amount of buerocracy. I understand needing a little bit, but I something think there is a little too much of a bad thing.

(Please forgive my bad spelling, lol.)

I think the government should be typing in all caps

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Originally posted by unabashed

i think taking care of the good ol USA problems before medaling in other world crap.....thats spending our tax dollars and lining thier pockets...........
WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK???

I think political threads usually end up locked, even when they start out ok.

LOLOLOL TJ!

Everytime I start thinking how it might be nice to have a government headed by Libertarians, I think of mad cow disease, cars whose gas tanks explode in a minor fender bender, air traffic controllers and lead paint in our childrens toys to name just a few besides the obvious military needs. I sure as heck want my Social Security too! It's just a shame that we have Senators like Stevens and Byrd that think they are in office only to bring riches to their district. Maybe on a local level that makes sense, but on a higher one it sure hurts my pocketbook.

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Originally posted by Scorereader

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Originally posted by unabashed

i think taking care of the good ol USA problems before medaling in other world crap.....thats spending our tax dollars and lining thier pockets...........
WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK???

I think political threads usually end up locked, even when they start out ok.

Oh Yeah! I know from experience...

We're meddling in world crap mainly to protect our economic interest. It has nothing to do with protecting rights of other countries, democracy, freedom, etc. How we meddle is of great debate.

I sincerely hate it when these political threads come up as there can never be a consensus. 50% hate and 50% do not (Approximately).

As one has mentioned, they tend to get nasty and get locked or removed. This one probably will but it is still alive now. It will be carefully watched as this is not what roadfood is about.

Paul E. Smith
Knoxville, TN

The main purpose of our government is to protect its citizens from all threats, foreign and domestic. If that means going abroad to stop a threat before it reaches our porous borders, then so be it. It is NOT their job to keep sticking their hand in my pocket every time one of them decides he/she needs money for a pet project in order to placate his/her constituency.


And for those who criticize "the rich," don't forget that most got that way because they were willing to work longer hours, take unusual risks and are also the ones providing jobs for most of us.

DD

desertdog for president!!

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Originally posted by MilwFoodlovers

Everytime I start thinking how it might be nice to have a government headed by Libertarians, I think of mad cow disease, cars whose gas tanks explode in a minor fender bender, air traffic controllers and lead paint in our childrens toys to name just a few besides the obvious military needs. I sure as heck want my Social Security too! It's just a shame that we have Senators like Stevens and Byrd that think they are in office only to bring riches to their district. Maybe on a local level that makes sense, but on a higher one it sure hurts my pocketbook.

Why are there air traffic controllers in our children's toys?

To all you nay sayers out there, please remember that the US has the best government money can buy.

Look at History-- There have always been wars and there will always be wars. The Crusades were a religious war and we are currently in a religious war. You can't win a religious war.
We need to shift our focus and kick the boys in Detroit and Houston in the ass and tell them to get us an alternative fuel solution in 2 years so we can get out of the Middle East and let them eat their oil! Corporate America can do it if they want to. Hell, we put a man on the moon in 10 years with 50's and 60's technology. How? Focused Commitment by Government and Business, that's how. We should be able to figure out how to make a car run on something other than gasoline in 2 years. If I was running for Pres that would be the #1 Item on my adgenda.

OK. I agree with DD, to an extent. While what was said is important, there is a FAR GREATER NEED to start spending our limited resourses in improving the lives, values, and experiences of the citizens of OUR country vs. those on foreign soil. Our infrastructure is going to hell, the social structure of life in the United States is mandated by commercialism, and our Mother Earth and all of our once abundant resources are dwindling. While I agree that some of these issues are NOT totally centered as "our" creations; does not anyone agree that we as a country just may be so self-centered as to ignore our influence in the rest of the world's society???? A world society brings on many problems that we as a country did not have to deal with in the past. Agreed. We NEED to take care of our own dirty laundry, FIRST!

I think they otta run fur the hills!!!

Judge Jean

Hello All,
Before this topic gets locked up, I'd like to put my penny point of view in.
Life always seems so hard for us, and for many it is very hard.
We, each as individuals, have to take responsibility for where we are at in our lives.
All of us need help and give help.
Religious organization need help in order to give help.
The government needs help in order to give help.
Secular organizations need help in order to give help.
I know of no one who doesn't need help or doesn't want to help others.
We, all, need each other.
We don't always help each other wisely, and when we make mistakes
it is an opportunity to learn and change.
It is easy to point our fingers at mistakes made.
Why is not easy to embrace the good that done?
Let us embrace not a blind eye to the ways of humans,
but surely we can promote the good and encourage each other.
My soul and mind tires of bitterness. I want to enjoy life again.
I want to enjoy it with all of you.
It is a hard way to embrace and promote goodness, honour, and truth.
It is hard to be bad, distrustful, and a liar to yourself and life.
It is just too easy to become a lord of bitching. Too easy to lose
the life you complain about while you complain.
I don't want to tell you how to live, but I am constantly discovering
the only wise way I can live and survive is with selfless love.
We can be the baby that is in need of guidance, love, support and then
grows up to give that gives guidance, love and support.
Or we can think we are the elder that rants at the baby about why do
you need guidance, love and support.
And the best gift we can give to each other is Forgiveness.
People mess up. Let us forgive. Let us forgive, even our government.
Wouldn't it be sweet if we quit tearing down and decided to build.
Our country, our states, our counties, our families, ourselves need
to see, embrace, understand, and live a vision that forgives, heals,
and promotes the general goodness and welfare of each other.
We are not helpless to do and be good in any realm of our political,
social, or individual situation. We just have no faith in them anymore.
As a Christian, I can only turn to love to try and find reason to live and
make life better for others and myself. But folks, my life is screwed up
and am not an authority. But I still try.
Take Care and Love,
Fieldthistle

I think - just once - Fieldthistle should type all in caps

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Originally posted by TJ Jackson

I think - just once - Fieldthistle should type all in caps

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Originally posted by Oneiron339

I think we need to revolt and start all over again - like they did at the Boston Tea Party. Unfortunately, government's too big, and there are too many special interests to allow that. We are at near anarchy folks, when those who have no tax burden outnumber those who pay taxes - why would they vote for any tax increase on themselves, or a decrease in high wage earners tax rate.
BTW - the Fair Tax proposal would go a long way in solving most of our issues. <www.fairtax.org>

Thanks for pointing that out, One Iron. I'm a huge proponent of the Fair Tax. Those unfamiliar with it would be doing themselves a favor to learn more about it.

DD

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Originally posted by Foodbme

Look at History-- There have always been wars and there will always be wars. The Crusades were a religious war and we are currently in a religious war. You can't win a religious war.
We need to shift our focus and kick the boys in Detroit and Houston in the ass and tell them to get us an alternative fuel solution in 2 years so we can get out of the Middle East and let them eat their oil! Corporate America can do it if they want to. Hell, we put a man on the moon in 10 years with 50's and 60's technology. How? Focused Commitment by Government and Business, that's how. We should be able to figure out how to make a car run on something other than gasoline in 2 years. If I was running for Pres that would be the #1 Item on my adgenda.

They already have found an alternitive to fossel fuels, Batterys. But at this time it's not a feasible course of action to take.
Lets say we went to battery/solar powered autos, this would be an economic disaster. You have to think about the number of people that
will end up on the unemployment roles nation wide.
In order for this to work it has to be phased in over a long period of time. Chow Jim

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Originally posted by Jimeats

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Originally posted by Foodbme

Look at History-- There have always been wars and there will always be wars. The Crusades were a religious war and we are currently in a religious war. You can't win a religious war.
We need to shift our focus and kick the boys in Detroit and Houston in the ass and tell them to get us an alternative fuel solution in 2 years so we can get out of the Middle East and let them eat their oil! Corporate America can do it if they want to. Hell, we put a man on the moon in 10 years with 50's and 60's technology. How? Focused Commitment by Government and Business, that's how. We should be able to figure out how to make a car run on something other than gasoline in 2 years. If I was running for Pres that would be the #1 Item on my adgenda.

They already have found an alternitive to fossel fuels, Batterys. But at this time it's not a feasible course of action to take.
Lets say we went to battery/solar powered autos, this would be an economic disaster. You have to think about the number of people that
will end up on the unemployment roles nation wide.
In order for this to work it has to be phased in over a long period of time. Chow Jim

Sorry. The need is NOW. The focus needs to be on re-education of the masses and training those concerned on the new technologies. We need to start fast-tracking this stuff now. We have the knowledge to implement most all needed. I say to hell with all SIGS ("special interest groups"). Once they are gone progress may be made. Most people worship the almighty $$ so much it is downright insane.

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Originally posted by Jimeats

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Originally posted by Foodbme

Look at History-- There have always been wars and there will always be wars. The Crusades were a religious war and we are currently in a religious war. You can't win a religious war.
We need to shift our focus and kick the boys in Detroit and Houston in the ass and tell them to get us an alternative fuel solution in 2 years so we can get out of the Middle East and let them eat their oil! Corporate America can do it if they want to. Hell, we put a man on the moon in 10 years with 50's and 60's technology. How? Focused Commitment by Government and Business, that's how. We should be able to figure out how to make a car run on something other than gasoline in 2 years. If I was running for Pres that would be the #1 Item on my adgenda.

They already have found an alternitive to fossel fuels, Batterys. But at this time it's not a feasible course of action to take.
Lets say we went to battery/solar powered autos, this would be an economic disaster. You have to think about the number of people that
will end up on the unemployment roles nation wide.
In order for this to work it has to be phased in over a long period of time. Chow Jim

Batteries, while a temporary answer, are not the best answer long term. They bring too much post-life baggage with them like disposal. They require electricity to charge them. Most electricity is produced by fossel fuels. A better alternative is Hydrogen powered cars. We don't have time for a long term phase-in. Granted,there will be a major economic disruption, but it won't be as bad as some think. Alternative fuel vehicles will take at least 10 years to phase in as gas & diesel vehicles phase out. The mix should be about 50-50 in five years. It won't happen unless we have a LEADER step forward whohas the Kahuna's to make it happen. Where is Barry Goldwater when you need him? Maybe Newt Gingrich

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Originally posted by Adjudicator

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Originally posted by Jimeats

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Originally posted by Foodbme

Look at History-- There have always been wars and there will always be wars. The Crusades were a religious war and we are currently in a religious war. You can't win a religious war.
We need to shift our focus and kick the boys in Detroit and Houston in the ass and tell them to get us an alternative fuel solution in 2 years so we can get out of the Middle East and let them eat their oil! Corporate America can do it if they want to. Hell, we put a man on the moon in 10 years with 50's and 60's technology. How? Focused Commitment by Government and Business, that's how. We should be able to figure out how to make a car run on something other than gasoline in 2 years. If I was running for Pres that would be the #1 Item on my adgenda.

They already have found an alternitive to fossel fuels, Batterys. But at this time it's not a feasible course of action to take.
Lets say we went to battery/solar powered autos, this would be an economic disaster. You have to think about the number of people that
will end up on the unemployment roles nation wide.
In order for this to work it has to be phased in over a long period of time. Chow Jim

Sorry. The need is NOW. The focus needs to be on re-education of the masses and training those concerned on the new technologies. We need to start fast-tracking this stuff now. We have the knowledge to implement most all needed. I say to hell with all SIGS ("special interest groups"). Once they are gone progress may be made. Most people worship the almighty $$ so much it is downright insane.

Unfortunaltely, relieving ourselves of our dependence on foreign oil, esp. from the middle east, is that the problem of millions of uneducated, repressed Muslims still forced to live under 8th century ways of thinking will continue to exist. Radical Islam will not go away just because we use don't buy their oil anymore.

I have no desire to live under Sharia law, nor do I desire this for my kids or Grandkids. We can continue to turn a blind eye to this growing problem, but that will not make it go away. They will continue to kill themselves in the name of their God, and try to take as many infidels along with them as possible.

I believe the answer lies in two areas; the liberation and empowerment of women in Muslim societies, and the reformation of the Islamic faith. These things have a slim chance of succeeding while oppressive regimes are still in power. The overthrow of these powers would ideally come from within, but obviously a little help from the outside is often needed.

Keep in mind, Germany, France and Russia did not disagree with the invasion of Iraq on moral grounds. All countries have large Muslim populations....oh, there is also that little thing called the United Nations Oil for Food scandle all three countries were involved in. Why should they overthrow a dictator that is selling them cheap oil??

Things won't be getting any better in this area anytime soon. Germany is Iran's biggest trading partner.......

Suppose that's enough ranting for now.

DD