sk bob
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Waffle Houses Closing ?
Sat, 11/15/08 11:08 AM
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I noticed in my area (Daytona Beach, FL) 3 waffle houses closed, A1A in Ormand,95&rt 40 in ormand, 95 & us 1 north of Palm Coast. The one on Intl. Speedway is still open thank God. Anyone know whats going on without just saying good ridance?
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MikeS.
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RE: Waffle Houses Closing ?
Sat, 11/15/08 11:59 PM
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They are building a 4th in my small county. So I have no idea.
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Rt66Mike
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RE: Waffle Houses Closing ?
Sun, 11/16/08 9:27 AM
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Waffle Houses are franchised - I'm guessing your local franchisee may be in trouble...
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CCinNJ
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RE: Waffle Houses Closing ?
Sun, 11/16/08 12:10 PM
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Waffle House restaurants in Florida are not franchises. They are owned and operated by Waffle House Inc. As is the case, in nine other states. WH is a privately owned company. They does not offer stock, and are not obligated to report earnings/losses to the public. So, it would be speculative to suggest the company is in trouble. With limited information (other than the fact that franchised owned locations are growing rapidly, in other states) I would assume that (based on market research) WH has decided to either eliminate or relocate certain locations that they own/operate, to save money. Or invest in other areas of Florida that may not have enough locations (as business dicatates).
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John A
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RE: Waffle Houses Closing ?
Sun, 11/16/08 5:49 PM
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quote:Originally posted by CCinNJ Waffle House restaurants in Florida are not franchises. They are owned and operated by Waffle House Inc. As is the case, in nine other states. WH is a privately owned company. They does not offer stock, and are not obligated to report earnings/losses to the public. So, it would be speculative to suggest the company is in trouble. With limited information (other than the fact that franchised owned locations are growing rapidly, in other states) I would assume that (based on market research) WH has decided to either eliminate or relocate certain locations that they own/operate, to save money. Or invest in other areas of Florida that may not have enough locations (as business dicatates). It seems to me that the one on Int'l Speedway Blvd sk_bob is referring to has an "Owned and operated by" plaque on the wall behind the counter. sk_bob?
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mar52
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RE: Waffle Houses Closing ?
Sun, 11/16/08 6:50 PM
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Wish they'd move to California. I love a cheap coffee house waffle.
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CCinNJ
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RE: Waffle Houses Closing ?
Sun, 11/16/08 10:48 PM
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While the information on WH website states that WH restaurants in Florida are owned & operated by Waffle House Inc., I found the following article, which may/may not have something to do with the current situation, in Florida. From Nation's Restaurant News... Second 100-plus-unit Waffle House franchisee files for bankruptcy TAMPA, Fla. (Sept. 19, 2008) A 146-unit Waffle House franchisee filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection on Wednesday, less than a month after a 113-store operator in the system also sought protection from creditors. Brandon, Fla.-based Northlake Foods Inc., with Waffle House coffee shops in Florida, Georgia and Virginia, is said to be the Norcross, Ga.-based chain’s largest franchisee. Its filing in U.S. Bankruptcy court here followed the August Chapter 11 filing of Nashville, Tenn.-based SouthEast Waffles LLC, whose franchisees are located in four other southeastern states. Pat Warner, a spokesman for Waffle House Inc., said the franchise agreements with Northlake and SouthEast had been terminated because both companies were behind on payments. Northlake’s filing asserts the company was forced to seek protection from creditors because of economic issues and an attempt by franchisor Waffle House Inc. to rescind the operator’s franchise rights. Court documents cite a shortage in cash flow, and say the concern had entered into an agreement with Waffle House Inc. in April to pay $45,000 per month for accounting services from the franchisor. “The financial and organizational problems related to Northlake Foods are internal issues for that company and its ownership group, and in no way involve Waffle House Inc.,” the franchisor said in a statement issued to Nation’s Restaurant News. “Waffle House Inc. continues to be a strong, vibrant company with a system of 1,550 restaurants in 25 states.” The company is listed as Northlake’s largest unsecured creditor, with more than $550,000 in arrears. The franchisee’s largest secured creditor, according to the filing, is Bank of America, to which it owes approximately $9.7 million. Northlake also cited sales declines and a rise in its labor costs from a minimum-wage increase. It also noted that September is the slowest month for its 90 units in Florida. The company listed approximate 2007 revenues of $88 million. Northlake did not respond to requests for more information. The other franchisee, SouthEast, asserted in its Chapter 11 filing that the company was forced to seek bankruptcy protection because of “accounting irregularities,” and cited an “abrupt resignation” of an employee. The employee was not identified in the filing. “We are working with creditors to reach a mutually satisfactory resolution to allow the debtors to move forward with good prospects for a reorganization,” said Glenn Rose, an attorney for SouthEast.
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collinf
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RE: Waffle Houses Closing ?
Tue, 11/18/08 9:12 AM
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The Waffle Houses in my area seem to be doing fine (Kansas side of Kansas City area). They opened up a new one close to where I live not long ago.
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sk bob
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RE: Waffle Houses Closing ?
Thu, 11/27/08 8:09 PM
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there was an article in the Daytona Beach News journal today 11-27 08 saying basicaly what CCinNJ said. sounds to me like rich franchisee's playing Waffle House monopoly.
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Bill Reynolds
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RE: Waffle Houses Closing ?
Sun, 03/1/09 3:34 AM
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There was one that closed at A1A and 95 not far from where I live in Jacksonville. It seemed to always have a pretty good crowd.
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