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brianh

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Washington, D.C. Wed, 07/30/03 3:44 AM (permalink)
I will be in D.C. for 10 days in early fall. I am looking for one of a kind, fun or outstanding places to eat. I love breakfast out, but never have it unless I am on vacation. You'll get an extra 10pts. for a good suggestion in this area. Also, any local specialty which you know The District does better than anywhere else will be rewarded if deemed worthy. I am visiting newly relocated friends, so nightlife tips will be weighed as well.

* I am really looking forward to exploring some of the nation's history up-close, so any help in this endeavour would be appreciated!

Winners will be be determined by a completely nonscientific, emotionally responsed and not fully prejudiced based set of criteria.

Prizes will be selected based on past posts of winning Roadfooders. All prizes will be of local Milwaukee origination. If said Roadfooders have no past posts, prizes will be chosen by the Prize Selecting House of Shut yer Yap and be Grateful for What You are Getting for Basically Doing Nothing, LLH.

Prize value will be directly proportionate the PSHSYGWYGBN's billfold at the end of the 10 day vacation.
 
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    Michael Stern

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      Wiseguy

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      RE: Washington, D.C. Wed, 07/30/03 4:30 AM (permalink)
      Michael,those look like some good "roadfood" places to me.
      I think you win

      Go here to do some "research" you will find that Mr.Stern has steered you in the best direction.
      http://www.digitalcity.com/washington/best/
       
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        brianh

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        RE: Washington, D.C. Wed, 07/30/03 4:33 AM (permalink)
        quote:


        Good A.M. Mr. Stern,

        The bisuits and gravy selection is officially in the running!
        I would just like to take this oppurtunity to say thanks to you for providing this wonderful forum for us afflicted to express ourselves on. My father and stepmom are newly semi-retired and have bought a really nice pull behind camping rig until they can upgrade to an RV. We have a great stocking trading tradition in our family during the holidays instead of typical gift giving. Your book will definitely among the stuffers in their stocking this year! Again, thanks for doing such a great job with this board!
        BH
         
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          jpatweb

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          RE: Washington, D.C. Wed, 07/30/03 9:44 AM (permalink)
          Here's a few more places of interest.

          Breakfast:
          Krupin's on Connecticut Ave. DC's version of a Jewish deli. Best on weekend mornings. All other meals served as well. Occasionally frequented by political talk show types.

          Eastern Market. Capitol Hill area, accessible by Metro. Standard city meat/produce market. At least one vendor sells downhome breakfasts and lunch. Gets very crowded.

          Lunch:
          CF Folks on 19th Street. Shoebox sized joint serving lunch only, M-F. Sit at the counter and order from blackboard, not menu.

          Breadline on Pennsylvania Ave, across from World Bank. Lunch only. The only decent sandwiches in town. A little chaotic around the counter but it works.

          Maine Avenue fishermen's wharf. Ramshackle gathering place for purveyors of seafood. Always slated for demolition but somehow it survives. Mostly fish for cooking at home, including bushels of crabs, but also has several vendors selling fried fish sandwiches, boiled shrimp, etc. Fun on the weekends.

          Reeve's on 12th Street. Over 100 years old, though not in this location. Breakfast, lunch, dinner. Comfort foods. Big pies.

          Hard Times Cafe. King Street in Old Town Alexandria. Chili joint with good beer list. Cheap. Wander over to Shuman's Bakery for a jelly cake afterwards.

          Five Guys. Fayette Street in Old Town Alexandria, other locations too. Burgers and fries.

          Sunday Brunch:
          Gabriel on P Street. A bit of a splurge but worth it. Lavish buffet highlighted by a roasted pig on a spit.

          Anytime:
          Eden Center in Falls Church, VA. All-Vietnamese shopping center. Dozens and dozens of eateries, several specializing in banh mi. Amazing place.

          Sightseeing foods:
          Nat'l Gallery of Art has a gelatto bar adjacent to its cafeteria. Smithsonian Castle has a weekend brunch by reservation only. Standard brunch fare but the surroundings can't be beat. Cheap cafeteria atop the Kennedy Center. Stroll the rooftop afterwards for great views. Appropriately, USDA headquarters on the Mall has a farmer's market on its grounds on Friday mornings.








           
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            rbpalmer

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            RE: Washington, D.C. Tue, 08/5/03 12:46 PM (permalink)
            As a D.C. resident and frequent restaurant patron, this one's right in my wheelhouse. I'll try to knock it out of the park without taking too many swings. I can't help you much with breakfast, since I usually eat that at home. However, I can recommend the weekend brunch at Melrose at the Park Hyatt Hotel at 24th and M streets N.W. It's expensive but the quality of the food is very good and the selection outstanding. Also, I don't know if you're familiar with "dim sum," aka the Chinese "tea lunch," but it is served in a number of Chinese restaurants, usually from 10 a.m or 11 until about 1 or 2 in the afternoon, and it can be delicious. What it is is a usually large number of Chinese dishes served in appetizer-sized portions which can be ordered either off of a number of rolling carts (my favorite, since you can see what you're ordering before you order it) or from a menu. It's a good way to sample a number of delicious dishes without spending a great deal of money. The best dim sum that I have had in this area is at Fortune, which is located in Falls Church, Virginia near the intersection of U.S. Rt. 50 and State Rt. 7. Also very good are Lei Garden and Tony Cheng's Seafood restaurant in DC on H street, N.W. between 6th and 7th. Lei Garden and Fortune use the carts every day, and, the last time I checked, Tony Cheng's used them only on weekends. I highly recommend this if you like Chinese food, and it's a very good introduction if you're not that familiar with it.

            I could go on for a long time about my favorite restaurants for lunch and dinner in this area, so I guess the best way to do this is to give you my favorites in each of several categories. At the high end price-wise, two of my favorites are Kinkead's at 20th and Pennsylvania Avenue N.W. and The Prime Rib. Everything that I've had at these two establishments has been first rate, but Kinkead's specializes in seafood and the Prime Rib in, surprise, surprise, prime rib and ribeye steaks. A word of warning - the Prime Rib requires men to wear a coat and tie, and will provide you with these items if you are not wearing them. A more economical alternative for great seafood is Cameron's Seafood Market, which has five or six locations in DC's suburbs. As the name implies, you can either buy fresh, raw seafood and prepare it at home, or they will cook it for you. Their "ultimate seafood platter," which includes a fish fillet, a crab cake, scallops and steamed and fried shrimp is first rate in quality, a challenge to eat at one sitting, and a bargain at 12 or 13 dollars. They also have good and reasonably priced steamed hard shell Maryland Blue Crabs, which is probably about as close to a local delicacy as there is. I also love the inexpensive "meal in a bowl" soups at Full Kee (Chinese) on H street NW between 5th and 6th and Pho 75 (Vietnamese) on University Blvd. in Langley Park, Md. The seafood dumpling soup (either with or without the noodles) is outstanding at Full Kee. Two very good and inexpensive Mexican establishments are Mixtec, near the intersection of 18th street and Columbia Rd. in the Adams-Morgan section of DC and the Rio Grande Cafe, which has four locations in the DC suburbs. Try the "Tortas," or Mexican-style hoagies, at Mixtec. Finally, for excellent barbeque, I go to Capital Q, which is near the intersection of 7th and H streets in downtown DC. They have the best beef brisket that I've had anywhere, and their pork ribs and sausage are excellent as well.

            Whew! I've made myself hungry just writing this. I think I'll go eat lunch. Bon Appetit!
             
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              rbpalmer

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              RE: Washington, D.C. Tue, 08/5/03 12:58 PM (permalink)
              Oh, and one more thing. I agree with almost all of the recommendations made by jpatweb, except for the Maine Avenue Fisherman's Wharf. I think that it's overpriced, and the quality of the seafood that I've bought there has not been that good. For the same reasons, I would also avoid the neighboring Phillips Flagship Seafood Restaurant. Phillips is where the tourists go, but in my opinion, Cameron's is the place to go for both cooked and raw seafood.
               
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                schoon

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                RE: Washington, D.C. Sat, 08/9/03 7:41 PM (permalink)
                Although Five Guys has several locations and makes a pretty good burger, I'll recommend The Rocket Grill on King Street in Old Town Alexandria. Burgers are tasty and the fries are awesome.

                Tony Cheng's next to MCI Center for chinese. Go to the upstairs portion of the restaurant (I believe dosnstairs near entrance is primarily dim-sun).

                For great views of DC at night, the Washington Hotel. However, I have never been a fan of their food nor service. Perhaps a cocktail? Also, Old Ebbit Grill is hit-or-miss. Sunday brunch is OK, but lunch and dinner with the tourists can be a drag. If you do go, ask to sit "inside", not out in the atrium.

                Schoon
                 
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                  chilidawgguy

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                  RE: Washington, D.C. Sun, 08/10/03 11:04 AM (permalink)
                  Drive 25 miles west of DC on Rt. 66. At exit 53, take Rt. 28 South towards Manassas. Approximately 4 miles on the left is the Yorkshire Restaurant. Their sign reads "The Best Breakfast in Town." It should read the best breakfast anywhere! Excellent country style breakfast and great people watching. I once sat across from a peroxide blond with a great buffount hairdo, silver lame peddle pushers, spiked heels and a tattoo of the young Elvis that ran from shoulder to elbow. Continue on another mile or so and on the right is Kline's Tastee Freeze, foot long chilidogs, great shakes and soft serve ice cream. For you contemporary history buffs, across the street from Kline's is the place where Lorena Bobbitt threw her husband John's ...er..."personality" out the window.
                   
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                    MikeS.

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                    RE: Washington, D.C. Mon, 08/11/03 2:27 AM (permalink)
                    quote:
                    Originally posted by chilidawgguy

                    Drive 25 miles west of DC on Rt. 66. At exit 53, take Rt. 28 South towards Manassas. Approximately 4 miles on the left is the Yorkshire Restaurant. Their sign reads "The Best Breakfast in Town." It should read the best breakfast anywhere! Excellent country style breakfast and great people watching. I once sat across from a peroxide blond with a great buffount hairdo, silver lame peddle pushers, spiked heels and a tattoo of the young Elvis that ran from shoulder to elbow. Continue on another mile or so and on the right is Kline's Tastee Freeze, foot long chilidogs, great shakes and soft serve ice cream. For you contemporary history buffs, across the street from Kline's is the place where Lorena Bobbitt threw her husband John's ...er..."personality" out the window.


                    Great info. I will be right near here later today. I know where I'll be stopping for food. Thanks for the info.

                    MikeS.
                     
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                      MikeS.

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                      RE: Washington, D.C. Mon, 08/11/03 11:28 PM (permalink)
                      quote:
                      Originally posted by MikeSh

                      quote:
                      Originally posted by chilidawgguy

                      Drive 25 miles west of DC on Rt. 66. At exit 53, take Rt. 28 South towards Manassas. Approximately 4 miles on the left is the Yorkshire Restaurant. Their sign reads "The Best Breakfast in Town." It should read the best breakfast anywhere! Excellent country style breakfast and great people watching. I once sat across from a peroxide blond with a great buffount hairdo, silver lame peddle pushers, spiked heels and a tattoo of the young Elvis that ran from shoulder to elbow. Continue on another mile or so and on the right is Kline's Tastee Freeze, foot long chilidogs, great shakes and soft serve ice cream. For you contemporary history buffs, across the street from Kline's is the place where Lorena Bobbitt threw her husband John's ...er..."personality" out the window.


                      Great info. I will be right near here later today. I know where I'll be stopping for food. Thanks for the info.

                      MikeS.


                      So I went to the Yorkshire, darn good food. New post will give details. Thanks!

                      MikeS.
                       
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                        marberthenad

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                        RE: Washington, D.C. Fri, 02/6/04 2:48 PM (permalink)
                        quote:
                        Originally posted by jpatweb

                        Here's a few more places of interest.


                        Reeve's on 12th Street. Over 100 years old, though not in this location. Breakfast, lunch, dinner. Comfort foods. Big pies.



                        Went to lunch today to Reeve's. Great suggestion. Dunno how it would come out in a Stern survey -- great fried chicken. Greens were ok though. But service, style and atmosphere was superb. Thanks for the suggestion.
                         
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                          i95

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                          RE: Washington, D.C. Sat, 02/7/04 9:25 PM (permalink)
                          Lots of great recommendations here. Speaking as someone also in the DC area, I'd back the Stern's recommendations of both the Florida Avenue Grill and Ben's Chili Bowl as unique and true DC spots. They're both ma and pop run, single outlet places where, indeed, the locals eat.

                          However, I would also back the great recommendations already made by both:

                          jpatweb (Reeve's [for strawberry pie], Eastern Market [for the smells], Five Guys [for the burgers] -- although I'd double-check the Gabriel for brunch recommendation. Such Dupont Circle was THE place for a Mediterranean weekend brunch but I understand that they've recently changed formats and management.

                          rbpalmer (Tony Cheng's [for the warm sesame rolls accompanying the Mongolian barbecue, alone]).



                          In addition, and assuming that your stay was limited to DC-proper (vs. the neighboring MD & VA suburbs), I'd also recommend:

                          Old Ebbitt Grille...A true DC establishment on 15th Street, NW offering breakfast, lunch and dinner. (And whereas I saw their brunch viewed on this thread as just OK, their weekday breakfasts are both quite good and affordable.)

                          Oceanaire or Johnny's Half Shell...For outstanding seafood dining -- both pricy and both downtown.

                          Ann Cashion's Eat Place...The bastion of American comfort food in the heart of DC's trendy Adams Morgan section (at Columbia Road and 18th Street, NW). -- HIGHLY RECOMMEND !!

                          Austin Grill...Both on Wisconsin Avenue, NW (above Georgetown) as well as near the MCI Center-district downtown on E Street, NW -- don't let the name fool you, this is a DC original providing top-notch Tex-Mex fare at great prices. -- HIGHLY RECOMMEND !!

                          Rocklands Barbecue...Also on Wisconsin Avenue, NW just above the Austin Grill's famous "EAT" sign. Excellent barbecue with limited seating. -- HIGHLY RECOMMEND !!

                          Vidalia...Just west of Georgetown on M Street is where you'll find this upscale, southern eatery having just emerged from a top-to-bottom renovation. -- HIGHLY RECOMMEND !!

                          Ching Ching Cha -- A true Chinese tea house offering pages and pages of various tea selections plus light fare in Georgetown below M Street on Wisconsin Avenue, NW.

                          Ten Penh...A new addition in DC's Penn Quarter section offering upscale Asian-fusion cooking that's to-die-for.


                          Finally, any coming to DC and looking for either restaurants or events, etc. would be wise to pop onto www.washingtonpost.com and hit the "Entertainment" link where you'll find many of the city's restaurants listed. I'm sure many of these I just recommended would be there as they're each highly-regarded eateries in the nation's capital.

                          Thanks, in advance, for your spent tourist and dining dollars !!
                           
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                            bravehearteire

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                            RE: Washington, D.C. Tue, 02/10/04 1:45 PM (permalink)
                            Two places come to mind that I always enjoyed. One is the Fish Market in the Oldtown part of Alexandria. And my favorite is Duck Changs in Annandale. Great Peking Duck anytime without having to order in advance. Reasonable prices too. They also have a new location in Alexandria called Peking Duck Restaurant.
                             
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                              DaveM

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                              RE: Washington, D.C. Tue, 02/10/04 4:06 PM (permalink)
                              I second the recommendation for CapitalQ.
                              Brisket was great, but thickly sliced smoked turkey breast was also fabulous.
                              Davem
                               
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                                jm199

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                                RE: Washington, D.C. Tue, 02/10/04 4:57 PM (permalink)
                                If you are visiting the Washington, DC metro area, avoid the tourist traps and come to a little three block stretch of great mom and pop restaurants in Arlington, VA.

                                Located at the top of the Clarendon metro stop (ORANGE LINE), it is very, very, safe and locals eat and drink there.

                                Long known for the little Vietnamese restaurants, there are other places that serve great food at moderate prices. Among them are:

                                Facia Luna-great New York style pizza, hoagies and pasta. Plus they have BIRCH BEER on tap, with free refills. Also a good beer selection.

                                Whitlows-1/2 price burgers all day Monday. Their downtown DC restaurant (long torn down) was featured in the movie Broadcast News.

                                Hard Times Cafe and Chili Parlor-Five way chili, vegetarian chili, Cincinnati chili. A very good onion tangle too. Good Beer selection.

                                And who can forget the local Vietnamese restaurants which all have weekday lunch specials. All of these have been in business for ten+ years. My favorites include:

                                Little Viet Garden
                                Nam Viet
                                Miss Saigon
                                Cafe Dalat
                                Queen Bee

                                Also in the neighborhood is a Whole Foods Market and IOTA cafe, which features live music most evenings. Check it out, and avoid the tourist traps in DC (did somebody say Phillips on the waterfront??)

                                 
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                                  marberthenad

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                                  RE: Washington, D.C. Tue, 02/10/04 6:55 PM (permalink)
                                  quote:
                                  Originally posted by DaveM

                                  I second the recommendation for CapitalQ.
                                  Brisket was great, but thickly sliced smoked turkey breast was also fabulous.
                                  Davem


                                  I third the recommendation. Great hangout ... favorite of the Texas Congressional delegation ...
                                   
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                                    i95

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                                    RE: Washington, D.C. Wed, 02/11/04 9:06 AM (permalink)
                                    quote:
                                    Originally posted by jm199

                                    If you are visiting the Washington, DC metro area, avoid the tourist traps and come to a little three block stretch of great mom and pop restaurants in Arlington, VA.

                                    Located at the top of the Clarendon metro stop (ORANGE LINE), it is very, very, safe and locals eat and drink there.

                                    Long known for the little Vietnamese restaurants, there are other places that serve great food at moderate prices. Among them are:

                                    Facia Luna-great New York style pizza, hoagies and pasta. Plus they have BIRCH BEER on tap, with free refills. Also a good beer selection.

                                    Whitlows-1/2 price burgers all day Monday. Their downtown DC restaurant (long torn down) was featured in the movie Broadcast News.

                                    Hard Times Cafe and Chili Parlor-Five way chili, vegetarian chili, Cincinnati chili. A very good onion tangle too. Good Beer selection.

                                    And who can forget the local Vietnamese restaurants which all have weekday lunch specials. All of these have been in business for ten+ years. My favorites include:

                                    Little Viet Garden
                                    Nam Viet
                                    Miss Saigon
                                    Cafe Dalat
                                    Queen Bee

                                    Also in the neighborhood is a Whole Foods Market and IOTA cafe, which features live music most evenings. Check it out, and avoid the tourist traps in DC (did somebody say Phillips on the waterfront??)




                                    jm199, Nam Viet is awesome !! For years, Queen Bee was my favorite place in that neck of the woods until I found Nam Viet. And Iota Club & Cafe is THE place for live music not just in Northern Virginia but in the DC area. Good food, too !
                                     
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                                      Rhodes

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                                      RE: Washington, D.C. Wed, 02/11/04 9:47 AM (permalink)
                                      quote:
                                      Originally posted by clothier

                                      I haven't been to DC in 10 years, but is it true that some of the cafes in the museums have pretty tasty food?


                                      Maybe so, but Capitol Q and Chinatown (I can recommend Eat First and Full Kee) are within walking distance of most of the main museums and you can avoid tourist prices.
                                       
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                                        jm199

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                                        RE: Washington, D.C. Wed, 02/11/04 12:49 PM (permalink)


                                        i95, i must respectfully disagree with you regarding THE place for live music in the Washington, DC area.

                                        While i have seen Paul Brady, Fred Eaglesmith, James McMurtry, Kim Richey, Amy Rigby, Darden Smith and others at IOTA CAFE, i have seen hundreds more at the legendary Birchmere Music Hall in Alexandria VA.

                                        What other place could (or would) have Rosanne Cash, Nanici Griffith and Solomon Burke in the next two weeks??? Check out the Birchmere's website at www.birchmere.com

                                        The best thing about the Birchmere is that it is first come, first served on seating. So if you really love a performer, you can get there early and have great seats. Of course, all the seats are great, as it is a 500 seat listening room. The food there is fair at best-try the pulled pork or a salad, but you are there to listen to the music.

                                        Two blocks away on Mt. Vernon Avenue is RT's Seafood. Great seafood, with a New Orleans emphasis. Heck, Bill Clinton ate there when he was president, and they put his plate on the wall after he left!!!

                                         
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                                          Rhodes

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                                          RE: Washington, D.C. Wed, 02/11/04 1:04 PM (permalink)
                                          quote:
                                          Originally posted by jm199



                                          i95, i must respectfully disagree with you regarding THE place for live music in the Washington, DC area.

                                          While i have seen Paul Brady, Fred Eaglesmith, James McMurtry, Kim Richey, Amy Rigby, Darden Smith and others at IOTA CAFE, i have seen hundreds more at the legendary Birchmere Music Hall in Alexandria VA.

                                          What other place could (or would) have Rosanne Cash, Nanici Griffith and Solomon Burke in the next two weeks??? Check out the Birchmere's website at www.birchmere.com

                                          The best thing about the Birchmere is that it is first come, first served on seating. So if you really love a performer, you can get there early and have great seats. Of course, all the seats are great, as it is a 500 seat listening room. The food there is fair at best-try the pulled pork or a salad, but you are there to listen to the music.

                                          Two blocks away on Mt. Vernon Avenue is RT's Seafood. Great seafood, with a New Orleans emphasis. Heck, Bill Clinton ate there when he was president, and they put his plate on the wall after he left!!!




                                          We're going there tonight to see The Radiators!!
                                          We're probably going to eat Pho rather than going to RT's this around though, saving money for beer and a T-shirt
                                           
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                                            i95

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                                            RE: Washington, D.C. Wed, 02/11/04 1:12 PM (permalink)
                                            quote:
                                            Originally posted by jm199



                                            i95, i must respectfully disagree with you regarding THE place for live music in the Washington, DC area.

                                            While i have seen Paul Brady, Fred Eaglesmith, James McMurtry, Kim Richey, Amy Rigby, Darden Smith and others at IOTA CAFE, i have seen hundreds more at the legendary Birchmere Music Hall in Alexandria VA.

                                            What other place could (or would) have Rosanne Cash, Nanici Griffith and Solomon Burke in the next two weeks??? Check out the Birchmere's website at www.birchmere.com

                                            The best thing about the Birchmere is that it is first come, first served on seating. So if you really love a performer, you can get there early and have great seats. Of course, all the seats are great, as it is a 500 seat listening room. The food there is fair at best-try the pulled pork or a salad, but you are there to listen to the music.

                                            Two blocks away on Mt. Vernon Avenue is RT's Seafood. Great seafood, with a New Orleans emphasis. Heck, Bill Clinton ate there when he was president, and they put his plate on the wall after he left!!!




                                            jm199, we may, indeed, have to agree to disagree. For while I have been to the Birchmere many times over my more than 30-year DC area residency (and seen some fine acts there), its biggest fault is its constant ability to confirm its stodginess by forbidding dancing. Yes, I know the Birchmere's bandstand (which is awesome) both encourages and allows dancing to the more upbeat bands it books, but the uppity concert hall is only ripe for those acts whose only inspiration to move is to move your right hand to extricate your wallet to overpay for the Birchmere's mediocre food.

                                            Iota, conversely, is wide-open. Books more cutting-edge and emrging acts. Offers space to stand or dance (big "no-nos" in the "Footloose"-like-town that is the Birchmere). And has great beers on tap. In addition, the food is scrumptious.

                                            Bottom-line:


                                            The Birchmere for Jonathan Edwards.
                                            Iota Club & Cafe for the Mosquitos.


                                            (NOTE: This comes with the obvious exception that on February 28th Los Straitjackets [http://www.straitjackets.com/] are playing in the Birchmere's less-stodgy Bandstand. Be there or be square, Road Fooders !)
                                             
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                                              jm199

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                                              RE: Washington, D.C. Wed, 02/11/04 1:20 PM (permalink)

                                              i95, point well taken. I remember the two other locations of the Birchmere, and we have NOT even discussed the 930 club, located in Washington, DC for live music. Do you remember the original location of the 930 club at 9th and F (or was it G St), where the rats in the alley would snarl at you? Boy, was i afraid of those urban predators! Some were as big as compact cars!!

                                              I enjoy all three venues, especially the fact that the Birchmere's listening room is smoke free, and has a well lit secure parking lot as opposed to IOTA (which has none) and the 930 club (which isn't in the greatest of neighborhoods).
                                               
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                                                i95

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                                                RE: Washington, D.C. Wed, 02/11/04 1:39 PM (permalink)
                                                quote:
                                                Originally posted by jm199



                                                i95, point well taken. I remember the two other locations of the Birchmere, and we have NOT even discussed the 930 club, located in Washington, DC for live music. Do you remember the original location of the 930 club at 9th and F (or was it G St), where the rats in the alley would snarl at you? Boy, was i afraid of those urban predators! Some were as big as compact cars!!

                                                I enjoy all three venues, enjoy the fact that the Birchmere's listening room is smoke free, as opposed to IOTA and the 930 club.


                                                There we agree, jm199 !!

                                                The current 930 Club is flawless and as you probably read in today's Washington Post, was again voted by Polstar as the best concert venue in the entire country. I also concur regarding the attraction of the Birchmere's (or anyone's) smoke-free policy. (Speaking of the Birchmere, have you ever been to the Ram's Head Tavern in Annapolis [see:
                                                http://www.ramsheadtavern.com/annapolisvisit.html] which is virtually a carbon-copy of the Birchmere in terms of layout, no-dancing but quality acts? Plus they offer great micro-brews. The only problem is, like I did last year, try seeing an act there like Southern Culture on the Skids [http://www.scots.com/] and NOT wanna dance! )

                                                As for the ol' 930 Club on F Street, welcome to my wheel house! Remember the rats?? Heck, remember the friggin' pole right in front of the stage? Remember the ol' "930 Club smell"? Remember Alyson Palmer of Betty as the front bar's bartender? I feel like I practically grew up at the old 930 F Street, NW location. Great memories! I've always wondered if 930 Club owner Seth Hurwitz has a secret video catalog of all of the acts that performed there via their constant video transmission broadcast of the stage acts to the back bar.

                                                Good recollection, jm199 !
                                                 
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                                                  i95

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                                                  RE: Washington, D.C. Wed, 02/11/04 1:43 PM (permalink)
                                                  quote:
                                                  Originally posted by clothier

                                                  what the hell are you guys arguing about?

                                                  Dancing? DANCING?Dancing??

                                                  Did you guys put on skirts overnight or something?


                                                  Look, it's interpretive dance and their not skirts but "courage kilts." I am confident in my own masculinity to where such attire while I flit across the room to Bette Midler's "Wind Beneath My Wings." My wife, on the other hand, always seems to run from the room at parties when I do this. Women.
                                                   
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                                                    marberthenad

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                                                    RE: Washington, D.C. Wed, 02/11/04 9:01 PM (permalink)
                                                    quote:
                                                    Originally posted by clothier

                                                    I haven't been to DC in 10 years, but is it true that some of the cafes in the museums have pretty tasty food?


                                                    Clothier

                                                    The two that I have tried and like a lot are: the Mainstreet Cafe in the basement level of the Smithsonian Museum of Natural History -- there you can find a pizzeria, bbq, sandwiches and lots of ol' fashioned desserts. There is a decent ice cream upstairs to boot. The National Gallery of Art also has a great cafeteria, also in the basement level --- lots of great choices as well as a great gelato bar.

                                                    I have heard that the restaurant by the International Spy Museum is ok, but if you are up that way, the Capitol Q is the way to go, or somewhere in Chinatown.
                                                     
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                                                      jpatweb

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                                                      RE: Washington, D.C. Fri, 02/13/04 10:16 AM (permalink)
                                                      quote:
                                                      Originally posted by Rhodes

                                                      quote:
                                                      Originally posted by clothier

                                                      I haven't been to DC in 10 years, but is it true that some of the cafes in the museums have pretty tasty food?


                                                      Maybe so, but Capitol Q and Chinatown (I can recommend Eat First and Full Kee) are within walking distance of most of the main museums and you can avoid tourist prices.


                                                      Full Kee has been shuttered for mysterious reasons for some time now, though it is supposed to reopen in the next month or so.
                                                       
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                                                        wilewil

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                                                        RE: Washington, D.C. Fri, 02/13/04 2:58 PM (permalink)
                                                        Full Kee (Chinatown) reportedly re-opened today. The Bailey's Crossroads location may suffer.
                                                         
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                                                          lunasatic

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                                                          RE: Washington, D.C. Fri, 02/13/04 3:34 PM (permalink)
                                                          Nobody's mentioned Nanny O'Brien's Pub 2 blocks from the National Zoo front entrance between the Zoo and Cleveland Park metro exits. Burgers to die for, irish (surprise!) potatoes even better, Guinness properly served (VERY hard to find on this side of the ocean), & all the Irish League you can talk. Not to mention the heavenly music every night, live or juke box. Don't miss it!
                                                           
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                                                            lunasatic

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                                                            RE: Washington, D.C. Fri, 02/13/04 3:43 PM (permalink)
                                                            As for music venues, the aforementioned Nanny O'Brien's hosts surprise visits by Irish performers visiting DC, not to mention The Barns at Wolf Trap (as opposed to the Filene Center). Special fondness for the Birchmere, 9:30, and the Kennedy Center. Also, the local comedy clubs host some surprises from time to time. Go with the flow - we've had some of our best times in both unexpected ways & places! (If there is a Celtic festival or Renassiance Faire when you're in the area, DON'T MISS 'EM!) Too bad Hammerjack's in Baltimore closed! Lousy neighborhood, WONDERFUL old-fashioned metal music!
                                                             
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