Watt's BBQ

In his book, What Color is a Conservative?, former Congressman J.C. Watts mentions a BBQ stand near Lake Eufaula that was started by his father and at copyright date (2002) operated by a brother, Lawrence.

Can anyone say if this place is still in business and if so, give instructions for finding it?

Sad if true. I just wanted to know about a BBQ spot...

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Originally posted by Born in OKC

Sad if true. I just wanted to know about a BBQ spot...

Sorry if I sounded insensitive and/or Off-topic. I just thought the info might help in a Google search for that BBQ. pb

Yes he did --but i believe the Que is still there--i will check today and get back to you---But in all truthfullness---THE place to eat in Eufalla is JM.s--est 1932--and EXCELLENT--the BEST chicken fried steak around--great seafood steaks--awesome pan fried chicken(20 min wait)--AND--the last time i was in there they had that book available there!--but --no Que---for that i prefer Smokehouse Bobs on 11th st in Muskogee.---But Watts Que is the real deal!

Born in OKC---can NOT get through to them on the phone---which does not bode well since it is staurday!--and they SHOULD be open---will be going down there soon---will stop by and check on it and get back to you then

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Originally posted by tiki

Born in OKC---can NOT get through to them on the phone---which does not bode well since it is staurday!--and they SHOULD be open---will be going down there soon---will stop by and check on it and get back to you then

Hey Tiki!

If there is a Watt's BBQ, will you pick me up a T-shirt for you-know-who XL? I'm good for it.

Will do---IF its still there---cant get throgh on the phone though.

State?

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Originally posted by V960
State?

V960,
At the moment, conscious and/or sitting. You?
All-Too-Literally But Not All-Too-Literately, Ort. Carlton in 30601-land.
P. S. They're obviously-to-me talking about Oklahoma. There is a good BBQ place in Eufaula, Alabama, but Lake Eufaula thereabouts isn't large enough to merit inclusion on most maps; the Oklahoma one is, comparitively speaking, immense.

Mr. Carlton,
Please consider your sentence structure in the future. I haven't the foggiest idea what your sentence fragments are trying to convey. Whatever, it is the internet.

ORT,
We who are accustomed to your unique communications appreciate your comments. Those who don't seem to bother to read and understand those thoughts should perhaps consider reading them twice prior to responding. They appear quite clear to me.
AJB

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Originally posted by V960

Mr. Carlton,
Please consider your sentence structure in the future. I haven't the foggiest idea what your sentence fragments are trying to convey. Whatever, it is the internet.

V960: You have posted some stuff that ws pretty good but your attack on Ort was uncalled for. Perhaps you are a English major but Ort writes neat stuff and has done so for many publications. He has been published many times. I doubt that your literary skills, oratory skills or whatever can even come close to what Ort Carlton writes or has.

I suggest you retract your statement. PDQ

Paul E. Smith
Knoxville, TN

At your request dear sir I humbly retract. Still can't figure out what is trying to be said however. But I stand w/ head bowed.

This is for Ort. Carlton. and is way off subject and I apologize for that, but I see you are in Athens, GA. and I was wondering if you have heard if they are really going to close the Navy Supply Corps School there? I heard it was on the list of bases to be closed in the lastest cuts. Thanks.

I deleted everything before and after the following simply because it embarrassed even me:

[warning: intentional pomposity ahead]

See later post.

I must interject and it may cause moderators to ban me but...prose is a wonderful thing but sentences have verbs and objects.

Good prose is a delight and the bad stuff isn't worth a toss in a whirlwind. Ort? Mom or dad didn't like you much? Don't worry mate mine didn't care much for me either.

We were talking about BBQ outside of NC? No wonder this digressed...No good Q outside of NC except Georgia Pig (sorry Sundanger)

To Ort...All in good spirits fellow. Your try at prose struck me wrong but no problem. Haven't a clue what you meant but no problem.

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Originally posted by V960

I must interject and it may cause moderators to ban me but...prose is a wonderful thing but sentences have verbs and objects.

Good prose is a delight and the bad stuff isn't worth a toss in a whirlwind. Ort? Mom or dad didn't like you much? Don't worry mate mine didn't care much for me either.

We were talking about BBQ outside of NC? No wonder this digressed...No good Q outside of NC except Georgia Pig (sorry Sundanger)

To Ort...All in good spirits fellow. Your try at prose struck me wrong but no problem. Haven't a clue what you meant but no problem.

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Originally posted by V960

I must interject and it may cause moderators to ban me but...prose is a wonderful thing but sentences have verbs and objects.

Good prose is a delight and the bad stuff isn't worth a toss in a whirlwind. Ort? Mom or dad didn't like you much? Don't worry mate mine didn't care much for me either.

We were talking about BBQ outside of NC? No wonder this digressed...No good Q outside of NC except Georgia Pig (sorry Sundanger)

To Ort...All in good spirits fellow. Your try at prose struck me wrong but no problem. Haven't a clue what you meant but no problem.

I am Sundancer, not Sundanger:

You can eat all you want at the Georgia Pig but I will never ever take any of my company folks or colleages to this racist place. The lady that ran the plce made my black female HR colleague totally feel awful. If that is your idea of a great place, you enjoy it. I will leave it alone and advise all my colleagues to do the same.

There is no BBQ in the world worth that. I hope you enjoy that type of food.

Paul E. Smith
knoxville, TN

There's no good BBQ outside of North Carolina? Really? All this time I thought I was eating good Q, and it wasn't good?

Georgia Pig is the most "colorful" place on the super slab. Below is the RF rview.

http://www.roadfood.com/Reviews/Overview.aspx?RefID=82

By the way it is MUCH worse looking than the photos would make you think. Be prepared for shifting floors, mismatched chairs and tables in need of repair. You reach for a pistol on your hip...Gunsmoke? when you enter.

Fantastic place, my FIL wouldn't even enter but ate two sandwiches. My MIL talked about the place for many years after our visit. I have eaten there about thirty plus times in the past fiifteen years and will never pass it w/o eating. Mr. Smith had two bad experiences and I am are sorry for this. I have had fifteen times more experiences w/ many different races in attendance and never had any problem at all. They have never been anything but kind, helpful and attentive.

But that is what these types of boards are for, he hates it, I love it, reviews from Mr. Stearn give it "four star BBQ" so make up your own minds.

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Originally posted by V960

I must interject and it may cause moderators to ban me but...prose is a wonderful thing but sentences have verbs and objects.

Good prose is a delight and the bad stuff isn't worth a toss in a whirlwind. Ort? Mom or dad didn't like you much? Don't worry mate mine didn't care much for me either.

We were talking about BBQ outside of NC? No wonder this digressed...No good Q outside of NC except Georgia Pig (sorry Sundanger)

To Ort...All in good spirits fellow. Your try at prose struck me wrong but no problem. Haven't a clue what you meant but no problem.

I don't believe "State?" qualifies as a sentence either.
http://lists.unknown-armies.com/pipermail/ua/2002-November/024510.html

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Originally posted by V960


We were talking about BBQ outside of NC? No wonder this digressed...No good Q outside of NC except Georgia Pig (sorry Sundanger)

Them fighting words!!!!no good barbecue outside of NC indeed!!!! I'd put Hays Smokehouse of Lexington Tn up against ANYONES que!!---and when it comes to Briskeet NC cant hold a candle to either Ok or Texas!!!---and yes we were talking about Oklahoma--home of ex congressman Watts.

Everyone (including me) has his own biases about barbecue. When I first moved to Louisiana I was amazed to discover that people smoked beef, of all things! I'm a devotee of Memphis-style, wet or dry; and now that Bushie and Sundancer have forced me to eat brisket, I will allow that it is possible to make edible barbecue with cow meat.

But having said that, I have a serious note to interject.

In many years of ministry I was occasionally forced to do a little counseling. One thing I often encountered was the phenomenon called, "Let's you and him fight." People often step in to support someone who hasn't asked for it, and often this so-called support serves primarily to create massive ill will and serve no useful purpose whatsoever. It often takes the form of, e.g., "Billy, Jimmy said you were a spineless coward and I told him, you'd beat him up for that!"

Folks, Ort. is a big boy and after reading many of his posts I am persuaded that he can protect himself very well from whatever slings and arrows may come his way.

How about we let Ort. fight his own battles? If he wants our help he can ask for it and I'm sure it will be forthcoming.

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Originally posted by Sundancer7I am Sundancer, not Sundanger:

Aw, heck, Paul, I kind of like "Sundanger." It adds a bit of bite!

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Originally posted by bill voss

I don't believe "State?" qualifies as a sentence either.

"Haven't a clue what you meant but no problem." is a sentence fragment and "no clue" is an egregious colloquialism that should not be used in a formal sentence. Aside from that, it infers a specialized knowledge of slang that not everyone possesses.

BTW, http://lists.unknown-armies.com/pipermail/ua/2002-November/024510.html included a link that returned an Error 404. If you know where to find it, I'd like to read it.

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Originally posted by Rick F.

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Originally posted by Sundancer7I am Sundancer, not Sundanger:

Aw, heck, Paul, I kind of like "Sundanger." It adds a bit of bite!

Perhaps I should change but I ain't gonna do that. I have been Sundancer way too long. Almost 20 years.

Paul E. Smith
Knoxville, TN

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Originally posted by Rick F.

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Originally posted by bill voss

I don't believe "State?" qualifies as a sentence either.

"Haven't a clue what you meant but no problem." is a sentence fragment and "no clue" is an egregious colloquialism that should not be used in a formal sentence. Aside from that, it infers a specialized knowledge of slang that not everyone possesses.

BTW, http://lists.unknown-armies.com/pipermail/ua/2002-November/024510.html included a link that returned an Error 404. If you know where to find it, I'd like to read it.

The most famous Wacky Local of Athens, Georgia is without a doubt William Orten Carlton, AKA ORT. Ort. can be seen wandering the streets of downtown Athens most nights, seeking adventure, or beer. Ort. is an interesting variation on the standard Crazy Guy Talking To Thin Air; he doesn't talk to people who aren't there, he talks to people who *are* there. Anyone. You. If you get within standard polite conversational range of Ort., he will start speaking to you *as if* you were in the middle of a conversation with him already. He seems to treat everyone he sees as a friendly acquaintance; on the other hand, he's been an Athens fixture for so many years that that's not far from true. He's actually quite a witty and interesting conversationalist, but his obsessions with (and freakishly detailed and intricate knowledge of) street addresses, beer, radio station frequencies, and 45 r.p.m. records invariably add an odd, slightly eerie tone to Ort. encounters. He writes occasional columns for the Flagpole, the local arts newspaper (his title on the masthead is Special Beer Correspondent), and much like his conversation, his writing is good but...peculiar. Quite a few of his columns are archived at:

I keep trying to come back here (been pretty good at it so far) but we here in NC we also have an Honorable Watts. His district is called the I-85 corridor. Comical at best. He's a democrat but I support most of his stuff (my grandfather and father just started spinning in their graves).

BBQ beef? Surely you jest. I joke as brisket at Goode's on I-10 in Houston, not to mention the duck, is to die for. Commas in the right places? Shouldn't end it w/ "for" should I? The sausage at Ott's is also great.

However BBQ doesn't truely exist outside of NC. Can this honestly be argued? BBQ anything but pork? Oh, the world needs education doesn't it.

By the way..."State?" Is an interogative w/ an understood subject since there was "conversation" preceeding the statement. According to my wife who has an advanced degree, doctor of letters or some such crap, but it is from a southern university. Actually the first state supported university in the US. Points will be awarded for the first correct answer. She makes a great PTA president but can't stand to have one of the chickens killed because she makes them all into pets (we currently have 30 plus...you try counting chickens!!) She calls this "poisoning the well" but my logic class was in my freshman year.

Hey I'm an engineer, I didn't spend any more time in English classes than I had to to graduate...but when I can't make heads or tails of a post I come back.

Mr. Carlton, My apoligies for my rash comment. Still can't figure out your post however. State of being? State of awareness? Physical location? Had a libral arts major as a roomie for a semester...does the...never mind I deleted another five sentences from this guy.

Ok--i will be in Eufalla tomorro--tuesday the 13th--(gonna be Santa at the library!)--and i will stop by Watts BBQ --if its open i will have some lunch and see if i can get that t shirt for Elise---will let you all know.

Mr. Carlton seems to be more at home in Savanah than Athens but then again??

Please pardon the extra spaces...Dell made me do it.


I'm one of the resident nut cases in 'Charlotte...contact me old boy it it interests you.