What a shame............

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2014/02/02 14:12:18 (permalink)

What a shame............

Wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy  too young to go!  Shows ya what drugs will do! 
 
http://movies.yahoo.com/b...d-at-46-184225678.html
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    mar52
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    Re:What a shame............ 2014/02/02 14:38:34 (permalink)
    Just read about this.  It may sound cold but I can't feel too sad about a person that does this to themselves.
     
    You know going in that it can kill you.
     
    Sad that the rest of us lost a talent.
     
    And yes, way too young.
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    Re:What a shame............ 2014/02/02 14:45:10 (permalink)
    Very sad.
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    Re:What a shame............ 2014/02/02 17:18:51 (permalink)
    Sad for the kids, he was a brilliant actor.
     
    RIP PSH
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    Re:What a shame............ 2014/02/02 17:40:31 (permalink)
     
    I'm seeing this all over the news, but I have never heard of him.  Is this a really famous person?   Feeling like I am out of the loop. 
     
     
    Glenn
     
     
     
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    Re:What a shame............ 2014/02/02 18:18:30 (permalink)
    Glenn - You probably have seen him and not realized.
     
    Here is his filmography(most recently in Hunger Games movie)
     
    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000450/filmotype
     
    He usually played a "bad guy" or comic relief
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    Re:What a shame............ 2014/02/02 23:12:24 (permalink)
    Hard to feel sorry or sad for someone who deliberately does drugs.
    No excuses apply.
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    Re:What a shame............ 2014/02/02 23:59:30 (permalink)
    Maybe you could feel sorry for the three children he left behind, who had no control over whether or not their father used illegal drugs.
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    Re:What a shame............ 2014/02/03 00:24:37 (permalink)
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    Glenn - You probably have seen him and not realized.

    Here is his filmography(most recently in Hunger Games movie)

    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000450/filmotype

    He usually played a "bad guy" or comic relief


    I just checked out his filmography list.  Of the 54 movies listed, I have not seen any of them. and have only heard of a handful of them.  Admittedly, I'm not much of a movie fan.  ... Not much recent stuff anyway.   I saw a lot of movies as a kid in the 70s.  For whatever reason, after college (mid 80s), my interest in movies plummetted.  I'll take Clint Eastwood, Steve McQueen, and John Wayne for 1000, Alex. 
     
    Glenn
     
     
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    Re:What a shame............ 2014/02/03 00:27:43 (permalink)
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    Maybe you could feel sorry for the three children he left behind, who had no control over whether or not their father used illegal drugs.

    Sorry, don't feel sorry for them either.
    He knew what he was doing to his family and obviously didn't care.
    I'm sure someone will take care of them.
    They're probably better off without an addict for a father.
    I have ZERO tolerance for drug addicts, except for young children & teenagers that are sold or kidnapped into slavery and have drugs forced on them to keep them in pornography, prostitution, etc.
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    Re:What a shame............ 2014/02/03 02:03:25 (permalink)
    What a simplistic and ignorant view of addiction.  People become addicted to alcohol, drugs, and other substances for a variety of reasons.  Many are victims of abuse, suffer from depression, anxiety, or mental illness, or other issues.  An addict isn't an "evil person" because of an addiction.  I assume that you have no compassion for someone who commits suicide, since they did it to themselves, or someone who is overweight and suffers weight-related problems, or dies of a heart attack or diabetes-related issues or cancer because of lifestyle habits.  Interesting how you have ZERO-tolerance for drug addicts.  Can I then assume that have sympathy for those who drink out their livers or eat themselves to death? 
     
    Apparently, Hoffman had remained clean for 23 years before he relapsed.  Just because he fought addiction doesn't mean that he is a bad father. 
    And you don't feel sorry for the kids?  3 kids between 6 and 10 lost their father.  I'll go out on a limb and assume that they loved him, and they are hurting.  And their are plenty of kids who love and look up to parents that suffer from addiction, and learn to see their parents strength and resiliency in those that recover.  To paint an addict in broad strokes as someone who "doesn't care" because they are in the throes of an addiction clearly shows that someone doesn't have a single clue about what they are talking about.
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    Re:What a shame............ 2014/02/03 07:20:15 (permalink)
    Glenn1234 

    I'm seeing this all over the news, but I have never heard of him.  Is this a really famous person?   Feeling like I am out of the loop. 

    Glenn


     
    That was his talent - completely dissolving into his many memorable roles.
     
    I'm sure - living in Metro DC - that you saw Charlie Wilson's War.  He played the smart-a$$ CIA agent that helped Tom Hanks who played Congressman Charlie Wilson (D - TX).  His role as the villain in MI III overshadowed Cruise.
     
    "Loss-wise" I'd put him on a par with John Belushi.
     
    Sad.  Tragic.  Stupid.
     
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    Re:What a shame............ 2014/02/03 10:42:10 (permalink)
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    What a simplistic and ignorant view of addiction.  People become addicted to alcohol, drugs, and other substances for a variety of reasons.  Many are victims of abuse, suffer from depression, anxiety, or mental illness, or other issues.  An addict isn't an "evil person" because of an addiction.  I assume that you have no compassion for someone who commits suicide, since they did it to themselves, or someone who is overweight and suffers weight-related problems, or dies of a heart attack or diabetes-related issues or cancer because of lifestyle habits.  Interesting how you have ZERO-tolerance for drug addicts.  Can I then assume that have sympathy for those who drink out their livers or eat themselves to death? 

    Apparently, Hoffman had remained clean for 23 years before he relapsed.  Just because he fought addiction doesn't mean that he is a bad father. 
    And you don't feel sorry for the kids?  3 kids between 6 and 10 lost their father.  I'll go out on a limb and assume that they loved him, and they are hurting.  And their are plenty of kids who love and look up to parents that suffer from addiction, and learn to see their parents strength and resiliency in those that recover.  To paint an addict in broad strokes as someone who "doesn't care" because they are in the throes of an addiction clearly shows that someone doesn't have a single clue about what they are talking about.

    Extremely well put.
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    Re:What a shame............ 2014/02/03 15:19:09 (permalink)
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    Glenn1234 

    I'm seeing this all over the news, but I have never heard of him.  Is this a really famous person?   Feeling like I am out of the loop. 

    Glenn



    That was his talent - completely dissolving into his many memorable roles.

    I'm sure - living in Metro DC - that you saw Charlie Wilson's War.  He played the smart-a$$ CIA agent that helped Tom Hanks who played Congressman Charlie Wilson (D - TX).  His role as the villain in MI III overshadowed Cruise.

    "Loss-wise" I'd put him on a par with John Belushi.

    Sad.  Tragic.  Stupid.



     
    Nope.  Despite living in the D.C. metro area, I have not seen the movie, "Charlie Wilson's War".   
     
     
    Glenn
     
     
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    Re:What a shame............ 2014/02/03 16:24:30 (permalink)
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    saps

    What a simplistic and ignorant view of addiction.  People become addicted to alcohol, drugs, and other substances for a variety of reasons.  Many are victims of abuse, suffer from depression, anxiety, or mental illness, or other issues.  An addict isn't an "evil person" because of an addiction.  I assume that you have no compassion for someone who commits suicide, since they did it to themselves, or someone who is overweight and suffers weight-related problems, or dies of a heart attack or diabetes-related issues or cancer because of lifestyle habits.  Interesting how you have ZERO-tolerance for drug addicts.  Can I then assume that have sympathy for those who drink out their livers or eat themselves to death? 

    Apparently, Hoffman had remained clean for 23 years before he relapsed.  Just because he fought addiction doesn't mean that he is a bad father. 
    And you don't feel sorry for the kids?  3 kids between 6 and 10 lost their father.  I'll go out on a limb and assume that they loved him, and they are hurting.  And their are plenty of kids who love and look up to parents that suffer from addiction, and learn to see their parents strength and resiliency in those that recover.  To paint an addict in broad strokes as someone who "doesn't care" because they are in the throes of an addiction clearly shows that someone doesn't have a single clue about what they are talking about.

    Extremely well put.

    I agree with you.  My motto is "Judge Not."  It is very difficult to do but I try hard.
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    Re:What a shame............ 2014/02/03 19:03:57 (permalink)
    Thanks.  As someone who overcame his own alcohol issues (not through AA) and has spent time with substance abusers of all types, both in group and as a facilitator, it's quite clear that a lot of these people care a lot and many just can't find there way over the hump.  I know a kid who had a heroin issue and said that he didn't care and he knew he was going to die- right away you know he's torn up inside and it's a cry for help.  Long story short, he's clean for almost 2 years now.  Heroin is just a brutal drug, because it's so physically addictive as well as psychologically, and the things that you hear people do to get it are insane.  It seems to take more people than those that escape it.  There is just such a stigma attached to heroin and other drugs, while alcohol comparatively gets a free pass, even with people knocking a few back, hopping into a car on a nightly basis and endangering the lives of others as well as themselves.
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    Re:What a shame............ 2014/02/03 20:26:05 (permalink)
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    saps

    What a simplistic and ignorant view of addiction.  People become addicted to alcohol, drugs, and other substances for a variety of reasons.  Many are victims of abuse, suffer from depression, anxiety, or mental illness, or other issues.  An addict isn't an "evil person" because of an addiction.  I assume that you have no compassion for someone who commits suicide, since they did it to themselves, or someone who is overweight and suffers weight-related problems, or dies of a heart attack or diabetes-related issues or cancer because of lifestyle habits.  Interesting how you have ZERO-tolerance for drug addicts.  Can I then assume that have sympathy for those who drink out their livers or eat themselves to death? 

    Apparently, Hoffman had remained clean for 23 years before he relapsed.  Just because he fought addiction doesn't mean that he is a bad father. 
    And you don't feel sorry for the kids?  3 kids between 6 and 10 lost their father.  I'll go out on a limb and assume that they loved him, and they are hurting.  And their are plenty of kids who love and look up to parents that suffer from addiction, and learn to see their parents strength and resiliency in those that recover.  To paint an addict in broad strokes as someone who "doesn't care" because they are in the throes of an addiction clearly shows that someone doesn't have a single clue about what they are talking about.

    Extremely well put.
     

     
     
     


     
    Ditto. 
      
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    post edited by flyseye - 2014/02/03 20:28:03
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    Re:What a shame............ 2014/02/04 08:38:23 (permalink)
    Saps-fantastically put. My father was a (functioning) alcoholic and until he went thru some withdrawls while in the hospital for an unrelated illness( or perhaps, related?) I never really knew. I then realized I was heading down the same road. We shared 8 years of sobriety  together before his death. I continue on the good path. However, hadn't my father gotten sober, I would have still loved him, despite his addiction. His addiction wasn't my fault. As an adult, I made my choices, but had he died when I was young, I would have cherished the love of strangers and people close to me. Foodbme-shame on you for your lack of compassion for PSH's children.
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    Re:What a shame............ 2014/02/04 10:04:58 (permalink)
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    Saps-fantastically put. My father was a (functioning) alcoholic and until he went thru some withdrawls while in the hospital for an unrelated illness( or perhaps, related?) I never really knew. I then realized I was heading down the same road. We shared 8 years of sobriety  together before his death. I continue on the good path. However, hadn't my father gotten sober, I would have still loved him, despite his addiction. His addiction wasn't my fault. As an adult, I made my choices, but had he died when I was young, I would have cherished the love of strangers and people close to me. Foodbme-shame on you for your lack of compassion for PSH's children.
    I can totally relate to this...I remember literally praying as a little kid that my Dad would come home sober so he could hit me some fly balls in the backyard. He finally saw the light and spent his last 22 years clean and sober. I was so proud that he could see his only granddaughter that way. Until one has walked a mile in an addict's shoes they have no right to judge.

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    Re:What a shame............ 2014/02/04 11:29:04 (permalink)
    God rest his soul & God Bless his children.

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