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jpatweb

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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? Tue, 09/30/03 5:25 PM (permalink)
That would be true. Foods preferences, as well as dialects, vary in Germany. But here, most German restaurants seem to feature the hearty foods of the south. Perhaps in another era, when the U.S. had many more German restaurants than it does now, other German cooking styles could be found here.

Not sure about the potato salad thing. Maybe that was created by German-Americans.

quote:
Originally posted by chezkatie

All I can think is that different parts of Germany have different foods just like in the USA or maybe I am wrong.
 
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    Vince Macek

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    RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? Tue, 09/30/03 7:26 PM (permalink)
    In my head I keep hearing the Kingston Trio singing that title...

    Down here down south, German restaurants are few & far between - of course, about an hour north of Atlanta is the little town of Helen which, a couple decades ago, decided en masse to go Tyrolean. It's a lot like finding yourself in Disney's 'Pinocchio', or getting your head stuck in a cuckoo clock, but it sure packs in the tourists.

    I only ate there once several years ago, after a long day out with a hiking group. Pleasant enough, but I don't remember much; I was tired out & ready to do a face plant in my sauerbraten.
     
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      marberthenad

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      RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? Mon, 11/10/03 7:57 AM (permalink)
      quote:
      Originally posted by chezkatie

      Don't laugh at me but I have a question to ask. What is a real German restaurant. We are on our third au pair from Germany and they laughed at the two German restaurants that I took them to. They claimed they were Bavarian and not German. Also, none of them had ever had German potato salad........what gives?

      All I can think is that different parts of Germany have different foods just like in the USA or maybe I am wrong.


      That's right. German food has strong regional differences. The north is much more seafood oriented. Bavarian is what many people think of as German food, due mainly to the Oktoberfest connection. Then there's German food outside of Germany, in places like Austria, Switzerland, Czechoslovakia, France and Belgium.

      For every German cuisine, there is a German beer.

      PS - Just got back from Vegas, where I dined in at Munich's Oktoberfest. The owners are just putting the finishing touches on an exact replica of the Hofbrauhaus in Munich, which, I guess, will feature Oktoberfest every day of the year. Looks great, and a cab driver told me that the even the Bavarian government is putting money into this project! If it is an exact replica, the food should be pretty good ... It's at http://www.hofbrauhauslasvegas.com/
       
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        Spudnut

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        RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? Mon, 11/10/03 8:43 AM (permalink)
        The Yorkville area of Manhattan -- upper 80s and low 90s on the East Side -- still has German restaurants, such as the Old Heidleberg (can't find the exact address and am not in a place where I can get it, but I'll guess it's around 89th and 1st). Not my kind of food, so I can't vouch for its quality. But, it's been around "forever."
         
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          seafarer john

          RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? Mon, 11/10/03 10:26 AM (permalink)
          The Old Heidelburg was a noxious tourist trap many years ago. If it still exists I'll bet it's still a noxious tourists trap. The good old days of German Yorkville are long gone, as are most of the German oriented communities that used to have such great food- heavy on the sauces , lots of meat and starch and always good beer....
           
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            scbuzz

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            RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? Mon, 11/10/03 10:51 AM (permalink)
            I know nutthink !!! I did not take zhem !!!!


            *doing my best schultz imitation*


             
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              SharonTriv

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              RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? Sat, 11/15/03 1:36 PM (permalink)
              Don't care where the German restaurants may have gone--do care about their bakeries and breweries, however.
               
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                RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? Sun, 11/16/03 10:50 AM (permalink)
                KimChee - try Mader's 1037 N. Old World Third St., Milwaukee, WI; Tel. 414.271.3377.

                I am from Boston, MA and was in Milwaukee for a bowling tournament.
                We discovered this restaurant and were very pleasantly pleased.

                There used to be a great german restaurant in Gambridge, MA right near Harvard College called The Wurst House - I am very unhappy that it closed.

                If you are anywhere near Milwaukee try Mader's - let us know what you think.

                 
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                  MFKFinch

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                  RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? Sun, 11/16/03 11:27 AM (permalink)
                  How about a road trip to Peoria? The Hofbrau has always been fun. Small and crowded and loud, but wonderful!! Great selection of food and beer and wine.
                   
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                    Billfish

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                    RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? Sun, 11/16/03 4:21 PM (permalink)
                    I think I went to the WurstHaus in Cambridge once,aw it must have been in the mid 70s.Seems like I recall they advertised they sold 100 different beers,and they had a cool copper bar.Very nice place,and this was way before the mini-brewery designer beer boom,and before a lot of the foreign beers had any kind of organized US distribution.Actually though I didnt eat anything there.
                    I do remember one German place in Bedford NH,the Drygala Hofbrau,I think it was all you can eat,long tables where you sat with whoever,there was a polka band,and drinking contests (sure wont see that anymore),and everybody played the spoons and sang "Schnitzelbank".I did eat at this place and remember they had good schnitzel and sauerbraten,it was not like a place you went before your evening out,it was an evenings entertainment.I am sure its long gone.
                    Bill
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                      Roy

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                      RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? Thu, 11/20/03 4:47 PM (permalink)
                      I can't tell you where to go to get good German food but I can tell you where not to go....Connecticut. A vast wasteland for anything authentic. I think part of the problem here is the unavailability of the stern Teutonic waitresses who used to make the German dining experience so memorable.
                       
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                        RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? Thu, 11/20/03 9:20 PM (permalink)
                        Just remembered Hallo Berlin located on the West Side of Manhattan. They used to be in a dumpy little place at 9th and 52, but have since moved to larger and fancier digs on 10th or 11th avenue. The cook was the scariest cook I have ever seen, but the food was really good. The "wurst" haus in New York ... they also have a sausage cart on the East side as well as a restaurant in upstate New York. German soul food ... mmmmm. Affordable too. Great beers.
                         
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                          jamesozzello

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                          RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? Fri, 11/21/03 9:05 PM (permalink)
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                            JimInKy

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                            RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? Fri, 11/21/03 11:34 PM (permalink)
                            quote:
                            Originally posted by SharonTriv

                            Don't care where the German restaurants may have gone--do care about their bakeries and breweries, however.

                            It would be a sin not to tell you about Guglhupf Bakery and Patisserie in Durham. This is a genuine German and European bakery run by a German couple. On their Web site are links to articles that tell their fascinating story, and the site has photos of all the baked goods, including the creme puffs that I still dream about. I imagine I'll always make time to stop there on future trips through that area. The Web site address: www.guglhupf.com

                            I last ate baked goods from Guglhupf in August 2003 and everything was excellent. My Durham friend tells me they remodeled this fall, adding a nice cafe to the bakery.
                             
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                              Theedge

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                              RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? Wed, 11/26/03 11:30 AM (permalink)
                              Our family gets together this time of yea to make our own vurst. We use 1/2 ground beef, 1/2 ground pork some salt pepper and coriander. Mix it all up and stuff it in real casings. We put it in the smoker for about 15 minutes, then wrap and freeze it. I like to pan fry mine and serve it with a side of kraut and stone ground mustard. My other side is usually egg dumpling drenched in sautéed onions. Nothing like it when it's 20 below, comfort food!
                               
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                                Hillbilly

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                                RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? Tue, 12/2/03 9:55 AM (permalink)
                                quote:
                                Originally posted by Heatherb

                                KimChee - try Mader's 1037 N. Old World Third St., Milwaukee, WI; Tel. 414.271.3377.

                                I am from Boston, MA and was in Milwaukee for a bowling tournament.
                                We discovered this restaurant and were very pleasantly pleased.

                                There used to be a great german restaurant in Gambridge, MA right near Harvard College called The Wurst House - I am very unhappy that it closed.

                                If you are anywhere near Milwaukee try Mader's - let us know what you think.



                                We went to Mader's Sunday night, and we (my wife & I along with our New Yorker son and his girlfriend) were all very pleased with the experience. My wife and I haven't eaten at enough German restaurants to make any comparisons, but the girlfriend is from Latvia and said that it compares favorably with other German restaurants where she has eaten, even those in Germany. I just know the food was excellent, even if I don't have a point of comparison.

                                I do know that the servings were very generous (one serving would easily be enough for 2 people), and the presentaion was outstanding. We are notorious tasters, and we order different entrees and share them around the table. We had
                                An excellent sampler of Rhine Sauerbraten, Wiener Schnitzel, Kassler Rippchen (baked ham), potato dumpling, sauerkraut and Bavarian red cabbage
                                Pork shank with an apple demi glaze served with sauerkraut and red potatoes
                                Beef tenderloin stuffed with smoked bacon carmelized onions, shaved pickles and german mustard served with sauteed spinach over spaetzel
                                Usingers grilled bratwurst and simmered knockwurst in sauerkraut served with a slice of Kasseler rippchen and a potato dumpling. Since the restaurant is directly across the street from the Usingers plant, this one was a must, and boy, was it ever good

                                After this feast, and some varieties of beer and ale (this is Milwaukee, after all), there was no room for anything else.
                                Our guests have returned to New York, but my wife and I will definitely return to Mader's.
                                 
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                                  marberthenad

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                                  RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? Fri, 12/5/03 9:00 PM (permalink)
                                  Anyone ever eaten German food in Frankenmuth, MI? Are there good places?
                                   
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                                    marberthenad

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                                    RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? Fri, 01/2/04 10:57 AM (permalink)
                                    Ok, another question to any capital-area Germanophiles. Looking for good German restaurants in the DC area. Any suggestions?
                                     
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                                      RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? Fri, 01/2/04 11:25 AM (permalink)
                                      quote:
                                      Originally posted by mek

                                      KimChee43-
                                      Indeed, where have they gone? Puzzling, especially when the largest ethnic group in America is German-Americans (26%).
                                      If you are ever in Hagerstown, Md., you must go to Schmankerl Stube. They do a magnificent job.
                                      www.schmankerlstube.com

                                      Baltimore will celebrate its annual Oktoberfest at the 5th Regimant Armory.
                                      http://www.md-germans.org/oktoberfstempty.htm

                                      Zum Wohl !
                                      mek


                                      Hey, mek, I've been meaning to check-out Schmankerl Stube (www.schmankerlstube.com) as I'm less than an hour from Hagerstown. What did you have there? In addition, is there a better time to go (i.e. upcoming events, brunch options, weekend dining, etc.)? Also, do they have German beers on tap?

                                      Lastly, what about kids going to "the Stube"? Would you recommend such -- or is this a husband-wife (only) venue?

                                      Thanks!
                                       
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                                        i95

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                                        RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? Fri, 01/2/04 11:33 AM (permalink)
                                        quote:
                                        Originally posted by marberthenad

                                        Ok, another question to any capital-area Germanophiles. Looking for good German restaurants in the DC area. Any suggestions?


                                        Look no further than NW, Washington, DC's famed Old Europe restaurant, marbertnehad. You can see the Washingtonian magazine's review of same at:

                                        http://www.washingtonian.com/dining/restaurantDetail.asp?id=155


                                        Hagerstown, Maryland's Schmankerl Stube restaurant (see above) is also an option and is about 70 miles west of the nation's capital, FYI.
                                         
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                                          RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? Fri, 01/2/04 1:35 PM (permalink)
                                          quote:
                                          Originally posted by i95

                                          quote:
                                          Originally posted by marberthenad

                                          Ok, another question to any capital-area Germanophiles. Looking for good German restaurants in the DC area. Any suggestions?


                                          Look no further than NW, Washington, DC's famed Old Europe restaurant, marbertnehad. You can see the Washingtonian magazine's review of same at:

                                          Don't forget the famous Bavarian Chef, down Rt.29 in the town of Madison, VA. They keep odd hours so check before you go. Good stuff though! My German relatives loved it.

                                          http://www.washingtonian.com/dining/restaurantDetail.asp?id=155


                                          Hagerstown, Maryland's Schmankerl Stube restaurant (see above) is also an option and is about 70 miles west of the nation's capital, FYI.
                                           
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                                            marberthenad

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                                            RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? Mon, 01/5/04 9:09 PM (permalink)
                                            great suggestion. thanks!
                                            quote:
                                            Originally posted by i95

                                            quote:
                                            Originally posted by marberthenad

                                            Ok, another question to any capital-area Germanophiles. Looking for good German restaurants in the DC area. Any suggestions?


                                            Look no further than NW, Washington, DC's famed Old Europe restaurant, marbertnehad. You can see the Washingtonian magazine's review of same at:

                                            http://www.washingtonian.com/dining/restaurantDetail.asp?id=155


                                            Hagerstown, Maryland's Schmankerl Stube restaurant (see above) is also an option and is about 70 miles west of the nation's capital, FYI.
                                             
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                                              RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? Fri, 01/23/04 2:36 PM (permalink)
                                              This is funny that I saw this post. Haven't been here in awhile and was coming in today to ask about a recipe...something I had at a German Restaurant about 6-7 years ago.

                                              I was at a little place called the "Swiss Inn" in Georgetown, Colorado It is a german restaurant with a motel attached. Little family owned hole in the wall. (Those usually are the best ones anyway). But they served something after the meal that they called "Spiced Wine". Now the owner wasn't going to tell me much about what went in it. Although from the taste it was obvious what the main ingredients were: Burgundy Wine, Cinnamon, Nutmeg. But the trick was the recreation of it with the proper amounts. Does anyone know how to make this? I have tried...but let's just say....I ain't gettin it...lol

                                              But to Kimchee....on the german restaurant post. I traveled back and forth across the country a few times...and always take a particular route when I go. Dickinson, North Dakota - Germany West, USA. Had to stop over there once to have a tire fixed on my travel trailer. Very nice people, very german, but couldn't tell you if they had any good restaurants...didn't have time to stop for food.

                                              However, I have eaten at a few Mr Dunderbak's in various malls that I have been to

                                              Wish I could be more help.
                                               
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                                                RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? Fri, 01/23/04 3:00 PM (permalink)
                                                REX: I'm wondering if that spiced wine isn't something called "Gluhwein"? If you have a German cookbook handy, there's probably a recipe for it.

                                                My thanks to all of you who have posted to this topic! Keep those suggestions coming. What a great bunch of folks you all are!
                                                 
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                                                  chezkatie

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                                                  RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? Fri, 01/23/04 3:47 PM (permalink)
                                                  I did a YAHOO search and found this.........sounds good.....just right for a cold winter's night (like this one is going to be)
                                                  Gluhwein

                                                  1 bottle of red table wine
                                                  1/4 cup water
                                                  1 cup sugar
                                                  2 whole cloves
                                                  2 cinnamon sticks
                                                  lemon and orange peel

                                                  Boil all ingredients together except the wine and reduce by half.
                                                  Strain and add the wine.
                                                  Bring the mixture almost to the boiling point.
                                                  Serve hot.
                                                  Enjoy with lots of friends.

                                                   
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                                                    renfrew

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                                                    RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? Fri, 01/23/04 3:48 PM (permalink)
                                                    anyone remember Edelweiss in West Hartford Ct.? Great place with an exceelent staff and food. Guy closed up about 6 years ago after 30 in the business...I really miss that place.
                                                     
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                                                      RubyRose

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                                                      RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? Fri, 01/23/04 4:09 PM (permalink)
                                                      The best German restaurant in this part of PA recently closed. It was the Normal Square Inn in the village of Normal Square. Wonderful veal dishes, chicken livers with a creamy mushroom gravy over spaetzle, and those old-timey glasses filled with crushed ice, carrot sticks, celery hearts and olives on the table as soon as you were seated. (I always thought they used to look like the oversized goblets that were fraternity formal favors many years ago.)

                                                      The restaurant was in an old country hotel and when the owner wanted to retire and sell it, it would have taken so much money to bring it up to code that he had no takers for it.
                                                       
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                                                        efuery

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                                                        RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? Fri, 01/23/04 4:13 PM (permalink)
                                                        I remember Eidelweiss, although I never ate there. When hankering for German in New England the only place to go is the Student Prince on Fort St in Springfield Mass. Great food, Beer and atmosphere (HUGE stein collection). The house salad dressing is a must (Loaded with roquefort cheese). In February they have a game menu that features bear, venison, eland (antelope), bison, ostrich amd sometimes elk. ooh man I'm drooling now - just one week to go!
                                                         
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                                                          RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? Fri, 01/23/04 4:27 PM (permalink)
                                                          quote:
                                                          Originally posted by Rex

                                                          But they served something after the meal that they called "Spiced Wine". Now the owner wasn't going to tell me much about what went in it. Although from the taste it was obvious what the main ingredients were: Burgundy Wine, Cinnamon, Nutmeg. But the trick was the recreation of it with the proper amounts. Does anyone know how to make this?


                                                          Rex, although not German, your drink also sounds darn close to the warm wine Scandinavian drink appropriately called Glog. (Scandinavians...Germans...where all just blonde-loving, sauna-lounging creatures when you come down to it).

                                                          Glog is made via a "potion" of red wine, vodka or aquavit (keep the open flames away from that last one folks), cloves, cardamom, orange zest and then cinnamon sticks, almonds slices and raisins floating around the whole thing just to keep the kids away. If this is what you want, let me know as there are numerous recipes for this drink guaranteed to both: keep you warm during the frigid, Scandinavian winters; as well as forget all your troubles, your car, where you live and your kids names.
                                                           
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                                                            Ralph Isbill

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                                                            RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? Fri, 01/23/04 4:46 PM (permalink)
                                                            We have a great German Restaurant in Choctaw Oklahoma.

                                                            Old Germany Restaurant -
                                                            15920 SE 29th Street
                                                            Choctaw, OK 73020
                                                            Phone: 405-390-8647
                                                            Fax: 405-390-1647
                                                            mike@oldgermany.com
                                                            http://www.oldgermany.com
                                                            Cozy chalet style building with a distinct German atmosphere. We serve German, Deutsch, Rheingau Regional, German Old World Style and Oktoberfest cuisine, German beers and wines. Entrees include: Wiener Schnitzel, Jager Schnitzel, Sauerbraten, Bratwurst, etc.

                                                            They have been there for quite some time..Great food!
                                                             
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