White lightnin'

Author
ScreamingChicken
Sirloin
  • Total Posts : 5213
  • Joined: 2004/11/05 14:36:00
  • Location: Stoughton, WI
  • Status: offline
2014/01/02 14:34:56 (permalink)

White lightnin'

Last spring on my way to Des Moines I stopped at Cedar Ridge (Cedar Rapids) and picked up a bottle of their unaged whiskey out of curiosity (and cheapness, as it was $10 less than the other spirits).  This was the first time I'd tried this form of "corn squeezin's" and found it to be actually quite good without burning or being harsh.  Does anyone else partake of this style of whiskey?
#1

20 Replies Related Threads

    Michael Hoffman
    Double-chop Porterhouse
    • Total Posts : 18874
    • Joined: 2000/07/01 08:52:00
    • Location: Gahanna, OH
    • Status: online
    Re:White lightnin' 2014/01/02 14:44:48 (permalink)
    Years ago, when I worked in radio and television in Charleston, West Virginia, I used to spend a little time with the city's chief of detectives. One day when I walked into his office he asked me if I liked "Shine." I told him the stuff I'd had a few times was pretty bad and that I didn't care for it. That's when he pulled a big gallon jug out of a cabinet and said they'd raided a still the night before and told me I should try some. I did. It was as smooth as a rabbit's ear, and ranked right up there with the best whiskey I've ever had.
    #2
    hatteras04
    Double Chili Cheeseburger
    • Total Posts : 1102
    • Joined: 2003/05/14 13:35:00
    • Location: Columbus, OH
    • Status: offline
    Re:White lightnin' 2014/01/02 14:45:13 (permalink)
    I got my dad some unaged rye from Oyo for Christmas and I have to say I hated it. So did he unfortunately. The smell was awful and the taste was just unpleasant. I'm a huge whiskey fan but I won't make that mistake again. I definitely owe him a new bottle of something brown.
    #3
    Davydd
    Sirloin
    • Total Posts : 6411
    • Joined: 2005/04/24 12:15:00
    • Location: Tonka Bay, MN
    • Status: offline
    Re:White lightnin' 2014/01/02 14:52:41 (permalink)
    Not since college. I've matured.
     
    You know by law or definition (not sure) bourbon whiskey cannot be distilled higher than 160 proof and be stored in charred oak barrels any higher than 125 proof. Eventually it is cut to 80 to 100 proof when bottled using iron free filtered water. Required aging is a minimum of 2 years. Corn has to be at least 51% of the grain. The Cedar Ridge is 75% corn based but I noticed it says 50% ABV so it is a cut product and not white lightning. In college I had the 90% ABV uncut product that was legal in Kentucky. Now that was moonshine.
    #4
    Phildelmar
    Double Cheeseburger
    • Total Posts : 861
    • Joined: 2006/03/19 12:47:00
    • Location: Newark, DE
    • Status: offline
    Re:White lightnin' 2014/01/02 15:25:15 (permalink)
    I've had some good stuff made by people in Maryland
    #5
    Sundancer7
    Fire Safety Admin
    • Total Posts : 13548
    • Joined: 2001/07/18 14:10:00
    • Location: Knoxville, TN,
    • Status: offline
    Re:White lightnin' 2014/01/02 15:47:20 (permalink)
    They now have a distillery in downtown Gatlinburg, TN making white lightning on the premises and several places around Knoxville are now selling "Popcorn Suttons" recipe for corn liquor.  I have had a drink or two and I have to tell you that it is now like the corn liquor I use to buy.  This is smooth.
     
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Sutton
     
    http://www.popcornsuttonswhiskey.com/
     
    Paul E. Smith
    Knoxville, TN
    #6
    EdSails
    Filet Mignon
    • Total Posts : 4121
    • Joined: 2003/05/09 18:39:00
    • Location: Mission Viejo, CA
    • Status: offline
    Re:White lightnin' 2014/01/02 16:10:30 (permalink)
    I've developed a taste for this:
    Jack Daniel Unaged Tennessee Rye

     

    Much smoother than I had expected for something akin to moonshine. 
    #7
    Phildelmar
    Double Cheeseburger
    • Total Posts : 861
    • Joined: 2006/03/19 12:47:00
    • Location: Newark, DE
    • Status: offline
    Re:White lightnin' 2014/01/02 16:38:43 (permalink)
    Haven't seen it in Delaware yet but will look in Maryland. Thanks for the idea
    #8
    edwmax
    Double Chili Cheeseburger
    • Total Posts : 2110
    • Joined: 2007/01/01 15:42:00
    • Location: Cairo, GA
    • Status: offline
    Re:White lightnin' 2014/01/02 17:18:14 (permalink)
    A few farmers in the area still refer to their corn yield as gallons/ acre.
    #9
    Pancho
    Double Cheeseburger
    • Total Posts : 915
    • Joined: 2004/10/20 11:58:00
    • Location: Madison, WI
    • Status: offline
    Re:White lightnin' 2014/01/02 17:41:50 (permalink)
    I went to college in western North Carolina and there was a working still about 1/2 mile from campus up Beech Mountain. My first day in the rec room at Tennessee dorm I had a sample. Heaved it up all over the polished oak hardwood floor. Wiped it up, but the next morning there was about a 3' circle of bare wood....like you had dumped paint thinner on it. Maybe it was.
    #10
    Phildelmar
    Double Cheeseburger
    • Total Posts : 861
    • Joined: 2006/03/19 12:47:00
    • Location: Newark, DE
    • Status: offline
    Re:White lightnin' 2014/01/02 18:38:17 (permalink)
    Glad that my experience, overall, has been better
    #11
    Davydd
    Sirloin
    • Total Posts : 6411
    • Joined: 2005/04/24 12:15:00
    • Location: Tonka Bay, MN
    • Status: offline
    Re:White lightnin' 2014/01/02 20:09:39 (permalink)
    When you say unaged white lightning are you also talking the pure distilled alcohol or you talking about it cut down to 100 proof or lower? You know it is the water that lowers the alcohol content is what makes it smooth to drink. If you are drinking pure distilled I can tell you it is not smooth.
     
    I look at it this way. I know from experience a more aged bourbon or Scotch of pretty much the same brand is going to taste better and be a bit smoother. I also know that all the new independent distillers out there are not waiting to sell their product 2, 3, 6 or 12 years. So, they have to convince you it is good with any hype they can. We had a tasting last year with a Cleveland brewed bourbon that used a "patented" (of course) mechanical aging process complete with modern technical explanation. Everyone tasting it swore it was great. In my opinion it was all in the mind. When we repeated with a side by side aged Kentucky bourbon the differences became markedly clear. Of course, sometimes just the difference from what you normally expect can make it seem better.
    #12
    tiki
    Filet Mignon
    • Total Posts : 4140
    • Joined: 2003/07/07 18:31:00
    • Location: Rentiesville, OK
    • Status: offline
    Re:White lightnin' 2014/01/03 07:02:51 (permalink)
    Had some mighty fine shine in the parking lot of more then one Juke Joint!! Some of it --Smooth as silk! Some of it--well---lets just say as gravel rough as the lot we drank it in!
     
     
    #13
    MetroplexJim
    Filet Mignon
    • Total Posts : 4274
    • Joined: 2007/06/24 08:45:00
    • Location: McKinney, TX
    • Status: offline
    Re:White lightnin' 2014/01/03 08:52:13 (permalink)
    Buddy of mine had an uncle who was the police chief in a small town in the interior mountains of PR.  Among the many somewhat illegal delights of that visit was enjoying bootleg 180 proof rum.  It wasn't bad, but I'll stick with 86 proof Bourbon.  If I go blind on that at least I'll know who to sue!
    #14
    Pancho
    Double Cheeseburger
    • Total Posts : 915
    • Joined: 2004/10/20 11:58:00
    • Location: Madison, WI
    • Status: offline
    Re:White lightnin' 2014/01/03 10:09:26 (permalink)
    I sampled some of this over Christmas...it's smoother than the Jack unaged and less than half the money.
    http://www.jimbeam.com/jacobs-ghost
    #15
    kevincad
    Cheeseburger
    • Total Posts : 410
    • Joined: 2008/01/23 16:30:00
    • Location: Snellville, GA
    • Status: offline
    Re:White lightnin' 2014/01/03 11:19:57 (permalink)
    ScreamingChicken

    Last spring on my way to Des Moines I stopped at Cedar Ridge (Cedar Rapids) and picked up a bottle of their unaged whiskey out of curiosity (and cheapness, as it was $10 less than the other spirits).  This was the first time I'd tried this form of "corn squeezin's" and found it to be actually quite good without burning or being harsh.  Does anyone else partake of this style of whiskey?

    Well, yes, I AM in the south, after all!!! 
    #16
    EdSails
    Filet Mignon
    • Total Posts : 4121
    • Joined: 2003/05/09 18:39:00
    • Location: Mission Viejo, CA
    • Status: offline
    Re:White lightnin' 2014/01/03 11:46:33 (permalink)
    I looked at the the website and it is not the same. It is AGED for a year and gets no color from white oak barrels. It might be a good drink (and I may just try it) but it is not unpaged rye.
    #17
    Pancho
    Double Cheeseburger
    • Total Posts : 915
    • Joined: 2004/10/20 11:58:00
    • Location: Madison, WI
    • Status: offline
    Re:White lightnin' 2014/01/03 12:26:18 (permalink)
    EdSails

    I looked at the the website and it is not the same. It is AGED for a year and gets no color from white oak barrels. It might be a good drink (and I may just try it) but it is not unpaged rye.
    Right you are. I didn't mean to directly compare the two anyway. Beam uses the same secret mash bill as its white label bourbon. It has to be at least 51% corn, then smaller percentages of rye and barley mash. The Jack is 70% rye, 18% corn and 12% barley. They are currently planning an aged version of same. No big deal...I just sipped both of them neat and preferred the Beam.
    #18
    Pancho
    Double Cheeseburger
    • Total Posts : 915
    • Joined: 2004/10/20 11:58:00
    • Location: Madison, WI
    • Status: offline
    Re:White lightnin' 2014/01/03 12:27:44 (permalink)
    Sundancer7

    They now have a distillery in downtown Gatlinburg, TN making white lightning on the premises and several places around Knoxville are now selling "Popcorn Suttons" recipe for corn liquor.  I have had a drink or two and I have to tell you that it is now like the corn liquor I use to buy.  This is smooth.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Sutton

    http://www.popcornsuttonswhiskey.com/

    Paul E. Smith
    Knoxville, TN
    In memory of "Popcorn"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsLRW_XqOzc
    #19
    Sundancer7
    Fire Safety Admin
    • Total Posts : 13548
    • Joined: 2001/07/18 14:10:00
    • Location: Knoxville, TN,
    • Status: offline
    Re:White lightnin' 2014/01/03 12:35:51 (permalink)
    "Popcorn Sutton" was very famous. Even though he committed suicide the day before he was to report to the pen, his funeral was enormous attended by dignitaries and Hank Williams Jr.  Even though he appeared very poor, it was reported that he was very wealthy.  He stayed in the news for years.
     
    Paul E. Smith
    Knoxville, TN 
    #20
    EdSails
    Filet Mignon
    • Total Posts : 4121
    • Joined: 2003/05/09 18:39:00
    • Location: Mission Viejo, CA
    • Status: offline
    Re:White lightnin' 2014/01/03 13:45:22 (permalink)
    Pancho

    EdSails

    I looked at the the website and it is not the same. It is AGED for a year and gets no color from white oak barrels. It might be a good drink (and I may just try it) but it is not unpaged rye.
    Right you are. I didn't mean to directly compare the two anyway. Beam uses the same secret mash bill as its white label bourbon. It has to be at least 51% corn, then smaller percentages of rye and barley mash. The Jack is 70% rye, 18% corn and 12% barley. They are currently planning an aged version of same. No big deal...I just sipped both of them neat and preferred the Beam.

     
    I'll have to find a bottle of the Beam and try it. Neat is the way I like it!
    #21
    Jump to:
    © 2014 APG vNext Commercial Version 5.1