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leethebard

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Wolfgangs Porterhouse..served precut???? Tue, 07/8/08 11:18 AM (permalink)
Today's photo got me to thinking,,,If I pay that amount of money for a "serving" of porterhouse, do I want it precut...or do I want to slice my own and watch those juices come out as I cut it?? I mean that steak looks more like a london broil. That's a steak you pre slice. Are you even sure you get the whole steak when it's pre sliced. Maybe it's hard for me to figure why, but it just seems strange to order a quality piece of steak, and have the chef(or waiter) cut it up into pieces for you. My mommy was the last one to do that for me...over 60 years ago. I cut my own expensive steaks,thank you!!!!!!!
 
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    Unkle Lunkle

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    RE: Wolfgangs Porterhouse..served precut???? Tue, 07/8/08 11:24 AM (permalink)
    Does Wolfgang really belong on Roadfood site. Despite the high end, aged steak, it appears to be on the verge of a connoisseur's chain and very over priced. Please don't take this as an attack, but as an observation.
     
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      GNeedles59

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      RE: Wolfgangs Porterhouse..served precut???? Tue, 07/8/08 11:35 AM (permalink)
      If you read the review you would see the explanation as to why it was put on Roadfood.com. Lee, I am with you, I do not think I would like it presliced...
       
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        NebGuy

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        RE: Wolfgangs Porterhouse..served precut???? Tue, 07/8/08 11:35 AM (permalink)
        Unkle Lunkle: I guess if Peter Luger is already reviewed here Wolfgang can have a seat at the table too, although I agree with your observation.

        Lee: I'm with you, I'll cut my own.
         
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          Baah Ben

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          RE: Wolfgangs Porterhouse..served precut???? Tue, 07/8/08 11:43 AM (permalink)
          Isn't this place a direct take off of Luger's? They are copyng a successful formula. Lee, I'm sure that you are getting your entire steak...They put it back after slicing it up like a puzzle. But, if you want to stir up a discussion you may get some takers. The steak, at least the only part I like of a porterhouse, looks wonderful doesn't it? It should for what they are charging. Is it any wonder that Ruith Chris reported pretty bad numbers for the last few quarters. Talk about a luxury in a recessionary environment.

          Personally, I love when the waiter takes the pieces of meat and places it on your place. But I always have to tell him I want the part from the strip! That can be uncomfortable..Like someone thinks you are asking for preferential treatment.

          I vote for a NY strip over a porterhouse. Now, who has the best NY strip or Kansas City strip in the country? I have no idea, but that is something I'd welcome hearing about.

           
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            Unkle Lunkle

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            RE: Wolfgangs Porterhouse..served precut???? Tue, 07/8/08 11:49 AM (permalink)
            quote:
            Originally posted by GNeedles59

            If you read the review you would see the explanation as to why it was put on Roadfood.com. Lee, I am with you, I do not think I would like it presliced...


            Needles is appropriate; I did read the review and I wanted to open this to discussion not figger pointing.

            I also read the What is Roadfood? I quote: "Roadfood means great regional meals along highways, in small towns and in city neighborhoods.

            It is non-franchised, sleeves-up food made by cooks, bakers, pitmasters, and sandwich-makers who are America’s culinary folk artists.

            Roadfood is almost always informal and inexpensive; and the best Roadfood restaurants are colorful places enjoyed by locals (and savvy travelers) for their character as well as their menu.
            "
             
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              acer2x

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              RE: Wolfgangs Porterhouse..served precut???? Tue, 07/8/08 11:59 AM (permalink)
              Wolfgang used to work at Peter Luger's.

              Since my recent trip to Italy where I had bistecca fiorentina[It is very rare (there is no other way fiorentina is, or should be, prepared), it is sliced with the bone sitting next to it at the table, it is floating on olive oil, it is peppered with coarse pepper] at Leo's in Florence, I must rank this experience up there with Peter Luger's.

              www.10best.com/Florence,Italy/Restaurants/Fine_Italian/Leo_S._Croce_Florence_IT_BID_24206/
               
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                leethebard

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                RE: Wolfgangs Porterhouse..served precut???? Tue, 07/8/08 1:07 PM (permalink)
                Now that steak and Leo's looks like my kind of place. I can't imagine a european restaurant cutting your meat for you.....It just seems so wrong....should they place a bib around your kneck and play "airplane" as they feed you the steak??????
                 
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                  RubyRose

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                  RE: Wolfgangs Porterhouse..served precut???? Tue, 07/8/08 2:02 PM (permalink)
                  Both here and at Peter Luger's, a single porterhouse steak is served for two, three or four people at the same table. If served unsliced, one diner at the table would have to cut the steak into portions for their fellow diners. At that price, I'd rather have a waiter slicing it to divide it up than one of my tablemates hacking into my portion of the steak.
                   
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                    doug_ua

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                    RE: Wolfgangs Porterhouse..served precut???? Tue, 07/8/08 2:19 PM (permalink)
                    RubyRose- thanks for clarifying for everyone. The steak is cut tableside - so trust me, you are getting the whole steak. Porterhouse for 4 can easily serve 6. If I recall, they also do a have a couple of individual cuts, and no, they don't cut those fo you. It is a wonderful experience. Wolfgang was the former head waiter at Peter Luger's. Nothing beats the bacon appetizer - a single strip of bacon served on a plate. It is so thick that it needs to be cut with a fork and knife. More like a long chunk of bacon!!
                     
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                      tommyeats

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                      RE: Wolfgangs Porterhouse..served precut???? Tue, 07/8/08 2:58 PM (permalink)
                      quote:
                      Originally posted by doug_ua

                      RubyRose- thanks for clarifying for everyone. The steak is cut tableside - so trust me, you are getting the whole steak. Porterhouse for 4 can easily serve 6.

                      in my experience it's not cut tableside. it's cut in the kitchen, and then very likely put back under the broiler, as it has been done at luger's for years.

                      the steak is anything but dry, so the idea of juices running out because of the cutting, while counter-intuitive, doesn't seem to matter all that much.

                      I agree that having someone with a very sharp knife who knows what they're doing cutting the steak into manageable pieces is much preferable to a tablemate making a mess out of it. i'm certainly not offended by the process, nor do I feel like a child when I'm at Wolfgang's or Luger's or Keen's or any of the many NYC steakhouses that serve porterhouse this way. In fact, I can't think of any that *don't* serve a porterhouse pre-cut.

                      not many people complain about Wolfgang's and Luger's, aside from the price, so I think they're doing something right.
                       
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                        Greyghost

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                        RE: Wolfgangs Porterhouse..served precut???? Tue, 07/8/08 4:15 PM (permalink)
                        A paltry serving of fried potatoes for $11, a small serving of spinach for $9, one Porterhouse steak that has to be shared between two or more people for $76!

                        I have always suspected there are a lot of crazy people in New York City...I just didn't know how crazy. Who gets the bone? I reckon the one that pays the bill gets the bone in more ways than one.
                         
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                          MiamiDon

                          RE: Wolfgangs Porterhouse..served precut???? Tue, 07/8/08 4:25 PM (permalink)
                          quote:
                          Originally posted by leethebard

                          I can't imagine a european restaurant cutting your meat for you.....It just seems so wrong....


                          You kind of have it backwards. The slicing of meats at the table is european-style service.

                          The slicing of the steak for the table is done at Peter Luger's also:



                          It's all part of a duluxe presentation; not quite Cheap Steak Charlie's style.

                          quote:
                          should they place a bib around your kneck and play "airplane" as they feed you the steak??????


                          I do not think that the waiter will feed you, and the portions are not sliced to bite-size.
                           
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                            tommyeats

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                            RE: Wolfgangs Porterhouse..served precut???? Tue, 07/8/08 5:21 PM (permalink)
                            quote:
                            Originally posted by Greyghost

                            A paltry serving of fried potatoes for $11, a small serving of spinach for $9, one Porterhouse steak that has to be shared between two or more people for $76!

                            I have always suspected there are a lot of crazy people in New York City...I just didn't know how crazy.

                            you should see the housing costs.

                            BTW, I wouldn't characterize the serving of spinach as "small", or the potato serving as "paltry" for that matter.

                            sharing a porterhouse is pretty standard at most better steakhouses. a porterhouse cut for one turns out much too thin for any sort of decent "char".

                            but I agree that there are a lot of crazies in NYC.

                            porterhouse steak I've had in Italy has also been pre-sliced. not that I care how Europeans eat.
                             
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                              Twinwillow

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                              RE: Wolfgangs Porterhouse..served precut???? Tue, 07/8/08 5:40 PM (permalink)
                              Regardless of whether or not a steakhouse is a "roadfood" restaurant, I don't want my steak pre-cut! I prefer to have my steak "rest" before I cut into it so the juices won't run out. It only take a few minutes more. I can always tell the waitperson after I do finally cut it, whether it's been cooked or not as requested.
                               
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                                Bill B.

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                                RE: Wolfgangs Porterhouse..served precut???? Tue, 07/8/08 5:49 PM (permalink)
                                At the nicer restaurants, for an extra $20 in the tip, your waiter will chew your steak for you, as well.
                                 
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                                  fattybomatty

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                                  RE: Wolfgangs Porterhouse..served precut???? Tue, 07/8/08 5:50 PM (permalink)
                                  maybe it's just me, but I eat fast enough where no juice runs out of the steak regardless of whether I cut it or someone else does
                                   
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                                    Sundancer7

                                    RE: Wolfgangs Porterhouse..served precut???? Tue, 07/8/08 5:57 PM (permalink)
                                    I have had it both ways and my personal opinion, I like the waitperson to slice it for me.

                                    The restaurants that do that are the upper end that usually serve large steaks for more than one. I think it is a very polite way of doing that.

                                    The veggies served at these places tend to be expensive and very large. Usually one serving is enought for 2-3 or 4.

                                    Paul E. Smith
                                    Knoxville, TN
                                     
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                                      ces1948

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                                      RE: Wolfgangs Porterhouse..served precut???? Tue, 07/8/08 6:23 PM (permalink)
                                      quote:
                                      Originally posted by Greyghost

                                      A paltry serving of fried potatoes for $11, a small serving of spinach for $9, one Porterhouse steak that has to be shared between two or more people for $76!

                                      I have always suspected there are a lot of crazy people in New York City...I just didn't know how crazy. Who gets the bone? I reckon the one that pays the bill gets the bone in more ways than one.

                                      $11 worth of fried potatoes should cover up about half the table.
                                       
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                                        Twinwillow

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                                        RE: Wolfgangs Porterhouse..served precut???? Tue, 07/8/08 6:40 PM (permalink)
                                        quote:
                                        Originally posted by acer2x

                                        Wolfgang used to work at Peter Luger's.

                                        Since my recent trip to Italy where I had bistecca fiorentina[It is very rare (there is no other way fiorentina is, or should be, prepared), it is sliced with the bone sitting next to it at the table, it is floating on olive oil, it is peppered with coarse pepper] at Leo's in Florence, I must rank this experience up there with Peter Luger's.

                                        www.10best.com/Florence,Italy/Restaurants/Fine_Italian/Leo_S._Croce_Florence_IT_BID_24206/


                                        With all due respect. And, I certainly do respect your opinion. I spend most of my vacations in Italy, "Steak", is the last dish in the world I want to eat in Italy. And believe me, I've seen some gorgeous Porterhouse steak Florentine served in the best of Tuscan restaurants.
                                        But, that's just me.
                                         
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                                          Twinwillow

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                                          RE: Wolfgangs Porterhouse..served precut???? Tue, 07/8/08 6:45 PM (permalink)
                                          I know one thing. If I had a Porterhouse steak lunch at Wolfgang's, I'd have to find a hotel so I could take a nap before dinner.
                                           
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                                            Sundancer7

                                            RE: Wolfgangs Porterhouse..served precut???? Tue, 07/8/08 6:49 PM (permalink)
                                            quote:
                                            Originally posted by ces1948

                                            quote:
                                            Originally posted by Greyghost

                                            A paltry serving of fried potatoes for $11, a small serving of spinach for $9, one Porterhouse steak that has to be shared between two or more people for $76!

                                            I have always suspected there are a lot of crazy people in New York City...I just didn't know how crazy. Who gets the bone? I reckon the one that pays the bill gets the bone in more ways than one.

                                            $11 worth of fried potatoes should cover up about half the table.


                                            Not anymore. Check the prices of quality potatoes and they serve huge portions.

                                            Paul E. Smith
                                            Knoxville, TN
                                             
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                                              Greyghost

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                                              RE: Wolfgangs Porterhouse..served precut???? Tue, 07/8/08 6:52 PM (permalink)
                                              Sundancer,

                                              All I saw were the pictures.
                                               
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                                                MellowRoast

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                                                RE: Wolfgangs Porterhouse..served precut???? Tue, 07/8/08 6:54 PM (permalink)
                                                This is a very curious practice.

                                                Part of the thrill of a great steak for me is actually cutting it myself as I dine. I can't imagine watching someone else doing the honors!

                                                 
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                                                  Rick F.

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                                                  RE: Wolfgangs Porterhouse..served precut???? Tue, 07/8/08 6:56 PM (permalink)
                                                  Good pictures, good discussion, doubtless an excellent steak. But give me a bone-in strip steak from[url='http://www.lobels.com/store/main/item.asp?item=9']Lobel's[/url], and salt, pepper and hot, hot, hot charcoal and I'm happier'n a dead pig on an August afternoon.
                                                   
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                                                    Twinwillow

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                                                    RE: Wolfgangs Porterhouse..served precut???? Tue, 07/8/08 6:57 PM (permalink)
                                                    quote:
                                                    Originally posted by Rick F.

                                                    Good pictures, good discussion, doubtless an excellent steak. But give me a bone-in strip steak from[url='http://www.lobels.com/store/main/item.asp?item=9']Lobel's[/url], and salt, pepper and hot, hot, hot charcoal and I'm happier'n a dead pig on an August afternoon.


                                                    Amen to that!
                                                     
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                                                      Bill B.

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                                                      RE: Wolfgangs Porterhouse..served precut???? Tue, 07/8/08 7:27 PM (permalink)
                                                      quote:
                                                      Originally posted by Rick F.

                                                      Good pictures, good discussion, doubtless an excellent steak. But give me a bone-in strip steak from[url='http://www.lobels.com/store/main/item.asp?item=9']Lobel's[/url], and salt, pepper and hot, hot, hot charcoal and I'm happier'n a dead pig on an August afternoon.


                                                      Now you're talking.
                                                       
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                                                        jeepguy

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                                                        RE: Wolfgangs Porterhouse..served precut???? Tue, 07/8/08 7:40 PM (permalink)
                                                        The smoking cursor on the website is a nice touch. I'll bet that steak melts in your mouth!
                                                         
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                                                          Greyghost

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                                                          RE: Wolfgangs Porterhouse..served precut???? Tue, 07/8/08 7:47 PM (permalink)
                                                          That steak in the picture will feed two people, only if one is a vegetarian.
                                                           
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                                                            tommyeats

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                                                            RE: Wolfgangs Porterhouse..served precut???? Tue, 07/8/08 7:58 PM (permalink)
                                                            quote:
                                                            Originally posted by Greyghost

                                                            That steak in the picture will feed two people, only if one is a vegetarian.

                                                            which picture? this one? http://roadfood.com/Reviews/Photo.aspx?RefID=3445&PhotoID=7195
                                                             
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