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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Wed, 01/18/12 2:33 PM
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The plastic really won't make that much difference in your calculations. I would drill two holes, one high and one low, spray the foam into the lower opening and stop when it comes out the top. You can "leap frog" up the panel in this manner, at least until you run out of foam. For what it's worth I think I'd lean more towards parchment or wax paper and leave the plastic out of the equation. Hell just use "Pam"!

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Don't worry about your box I'll do this. And BAB, I'm having second thoughts about the plastic sheeting. If I use plastic it is slick enough that it won't really represent the way the foam will go into and fill up the space. There is no plastic in between my open space, and It will only help, in the take apart but that's all. I may have to do this a couple of times to really get down to the best way to handle the job. But I'll take pictures and give it a try and let you both know how it goes.
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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Wed, 01/18/12 3:51 PM
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BTM676,
 
Did you fabricate the bumper?

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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Wed, 01/18/12 4:19 PM
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Hello reese.
I'm a big fan for your trend.
I did fabricate the bumper. Its 17 inch wide 82 long. 4 inch Alumium channel. I'm not an iron worker or welder but thats why the right side is lower then the left side but it gives the truck some character. haha Oh my tail lights are going on the bumper.

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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Wed, 01/18/12 4:52 PM
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BTM676


Hello reese.
I'm a big fan for your trend.
I did fabricate the bumper. Its 17 inch wide 82 long. 4 inch Alumium channel. I'm not an iron worker or welder but thats why the right side is lower then the left side but it gives the truck some character. haha Oh my tail lights are going on the bumper.

 
Cool, glad your enjoying my thread. There are more pictures on my Flicker page (link in thread), I will be doing more work at end of month when I have more time.
 
Does the bumper hold your weight?
 
P.S. I like your 3 well sink, I was looking for one that size but all the 3 well sinks I saw online were way too big and costly. How much did you pay for it? You said 36L x 19D, how tall is it?
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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Wed, 01/18/12 7:41 PM
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Yeah I clicked on your flicker page last night to check your pictures out. I'm up to the plumbing part so I was looking on how you did it.
 
The bumper totally holds my weight. My uncle, cuz and me stood on it together and nothing moved. Total weight was atleast 600lbs. Its bolted with 9/16 bolts. Since it sticks out 17 inches it also goes back into the frame 18 inches. The bumper weighs about 60lbs.
 
Sink... I got it from www.landjimport.com . They are a wholesaler. It was $330 didnt come with faucet. Did come with drains and legs. It was the smallest free standing 3 bay sink i could find anywhere. I think there online prices are much more then when i went there. I know your from GA so NYC is out the question.

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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Wed, 01/18/12 7:45 PM
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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Wed, 01/18/12 8:04 PM
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Yeah I clicked on your flicker page last night to check your pictures out. I'm up to the plumbing part so I was looking on how you did it.

The bumper totally holds my weight. My uncle, cuz and me stood on it together and nothing moved. Total weight was atleast 600lbs. Its bolted with 9/16 bolts. Since it sticks out 17 inches it also goes back into the frame 18 inches. The bumper weighs about 60lbs.

Sink... I got it from www.landjimport.com . They are a wholesaler. It was $330 didnt come with faucet. Did come with drains and legs. It was the smallest free standing 3 bay sink i could find anywhere. I think there online prices are much more then when i went there. I know your from GA so NYC is out the question.

 
Wow, nice website, I missed that one. Man, I really like that sink...wishing I would have researched further. Do not use my plumbing as an example. I had to route around my tall tank which I do not like and I'm actually looking for a replacement 35gal tank that is lower so I can mount my drains directly under the sinks versus around the tank.
 
Keep the pictures coming...

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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Wed, 01/18/12 8:58 PM
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@ Reese... Damn it.. lol I got that tank too and hand to raise my sinks to get it to fit under but I cut my drain pipes to accomodate the pvc pipes too... it's a nice fit, but the plumbing is def tight. If I have to work on the tank, I will only have to cut one pipe off and replace it. I've had my fair share of whacky plumbing in the past. I'm used to it, I just learned to have a very large drain pipe so that there isn't the possibility of a clog. The last thing you want is a whif of that water
 

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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Wed, 01/18/12 9:12 PM
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The only way i found that sink company was going to Chinatown and walking up and down the streets. lol I figured if there are over 300 ice cream trucks and street venders everywhere in NYC, someone has to sell food truck stuff. haha

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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Wed, 01/18/12 9:31 PM
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Reese,
For the FRP board did you glue it to the walls or use the push rivets? I want to use the push rivets just in cause i have to take it down but i dont know if that will hold.
Also where did you find the alumium window trim?

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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Wed, 01/18/12 9:36 PM
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it holds just fine... it's like any other rivet, Just make sure that the rivets stay warm b/c when they are cold they break alot easier. Learned that from my first build. luckily I did them this time in the summer.

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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Wed, 01/18/12 9:48 PM
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@ Reese... Damn it.. lol I got that tank too and hand to raise my sinks to get it to fit under but I cut my drain pipes to accomodate the pvc pipes too... it's a nice fit, but the plumbing is def tight. If I have to work on the tank, I will only have to cut one pipe off and replace it. I've had my fair share of whacky plumbing in the past. I'm used to it, I just learned to have a very large drain pipe so that there isn't the possibility of a clog. The last thing you want is a whif of that water


 
Ha...Sorry, it is a nice tank just large, I might try to plumb over it again but it was the black screw on top that was in my way.

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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Wed, 01/18/12 9:49 PM
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Reese,
For the FRP board did you glue it to the walls or use the push rivets? I want to use the push rivets just in cause i have to take it down but i dont know if that will hold.
Also where did you find the alumium window trim?

I glued the FRP and also riveted but just the one behind my sink, the other panels are just riveted no glue.

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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Wed, 01/18/12 10:29 PM
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Thank you guys for the tips. I dont want to use the glue if i can avoid it
Oh... did you drill and rivet into the beams or into the plywood between the beams.  

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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Wed, 01/18/12 11:22 PM
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Oh guys I hate to bring this up but don't you guys need drain boards, on the ends of your sinks? The HD in some states requires them.

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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Thu, 01/19/12 12:09 AM
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My state (PA) requires one for clean and sanitized dishes. I emailed them about it. They said it doesnt have to be hooked to the the sink. I am looking into one that hooks onto the sink, that way i can remove it for more room.  Thanks for bring it up Doc. I'm going to look into more. I need to know the facts before i start mounting things.
 
Here is my email to the HD and his answer.
 
ME: I'm emailing you this time about a question I have about the 3 bay sink. Does the sink need to have a drain board(s) or a drain board by the sink? And is there any minimum bowl or overall sink dimensions requirements?
HD: "As per the food code there is no specific size.  Your three compartment sink has to be large enough to submerge wash rinse and sanitize your largest piece of equipment. The drian board does not have to be attached to the sink.  You have to have an area in the trailer to drain / store clean equipment."
 

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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Thu, 01/19/12 12:51 AM
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mine didn't mind me having racks above the sink to dry the pans. However my new sink has drain boards on both sides. I removed the sinks from my trailer and just put in a hand washing station for the time being until I can redo the plumbing issues ive had with the trailer constantly since last summer. They were fine with that as well.

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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Thu, 01/19/12 1:00 AM
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Good deal I should have known you guys would do your research.
That's great.
Congratulations on your progress.

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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Thu, 01/19/12 8:22 AM
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Dr of BBQ


Oh guys I hate to bring this up but don't you guys need drain boards, on the ends of your sinks? The HD in some states requires them.

 
I have a drain board on one side of my sink and they sell hook on drain boards (Amazon, Webstaurantstore.com) that I can hook onto the divider so I have a board on both side. I will also screw a drain shelf above the sink.

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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Fri, 01/20/12 4:22 AM
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man you guys are lucky, i have to have 12" minimum on each end, and it has to be a part of the sink...they were very clear on it couldnt be an add on, or adjacent countertop...

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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Fri, 01/20/12 9:57 AM
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Yeah, Since my town has no local HD or zoning officer I have to meet State min code. Which is good for me. But there still is alot of gray area with the state form.

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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Fri, 01/20/12 10:06 AM
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I ordered my hood system from Hood mart the other day. So waiting for that. I want to start hooking up the propane lines to the tank but have really no clue what regulator to use or lines. Any suggestions? or should i just call the plumber?

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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Fri, 01/20/12 7:44 PM
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3/4 black iron pipe... just torque it down good. no need for plumber unless you are worried you won't tighten enough. automatic change over regulator, only cost $60 roughly if that.  I'll upload a few pics of mine with some links

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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Fri, 01/20/12 10:24 PM
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Thank you wild dog! That will help me and others out so much.

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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Fri, 01/20/12 10:46 PM
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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Thu, 01/26/12 10:53 PM
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Ok this week wasn't as productive as i wanted it to be but i did get some stuff done on the truck. I wired the brake and backup lights on the bumper. Came out good. I also primed the propane tank bracket. Thats all i got. The hood system should be in this coming week so I'll have pictures soon.

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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Fri, 01/27/12 12:58 AM
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me either. LOL  my fan fits, now just to cut the hole, and wire it. and start the plumbing and test the gas lines.. then I can get the electrician out to check everything... no time at all this week.

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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Mon, 01/30/12 4:45 PM
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I know you didn't say you have but make sure you don't paint your propane tanks! Friend of mine did that and the places here won't fill them up if you do. Looking good so far!

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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Mon, 01/30/12 6:39 PM
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Thanks. I didnt even think of that! I'm just going to paint it back to white cause we used the tank to shape the bracket so the paint and stuff came off.

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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Mon, 01/30/12 7:08 PM
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I know you didn't say you have but make sure you don't paint your propane tanks! Friend of mine did that and the places here won't fill them up if you do. Looking good so far!

 
Why would they not fill the tank? I painted my 100lb vertical tank gloss white using spray paint in order to cover up the old flat paint. Does this degrade the tank? I don't want this thing blowing on me like the Frites and Meats truck.

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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Mon, 01/30/12 10:43 PM
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F&M blew up because they were rear ended in a car accident.  FYI :-D

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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Tue, 01/31/12 2:30 AM
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NFPA 58 states that propane containers must be painted a heat reflective color. Most state regulatory agencies have their own rule addressing this particular issue but the national code declares that LP Gas containers must be painted a heat reflective color unless installed in an extremely cold environment.
 
So yes, you can paint it, but basically following the rule mentioned above. I have 4 ten gallon tanks, two came stock white, two came stock-off white. What i meant was do not paint it anything funky, or the color of your truck unless your truck is white! (i guess yellow is awefully reflective also no?) Haha


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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Tue, 01/31/12 7:43 AM
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my tanks are going to be covered anyway, I don't really care what color they are as long as they are safe LOL  I just have to find the time to get the metal sheets to cover it.

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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Tue, 01/31/12 8:19 AM
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painting in itself wont hurt the tank at all.....
the reason they wont fill a painted tank is most probably because it can be used to conceal excessive rust damage or welded areas..... its all a liability thing...
i think they are being a bit overly cautious but i would put my money on that reason...

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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Tue, 01/31/12 2:44 PM
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Great to see and hear progress being made. Good info, as always on this site!

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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Tue, 01/31/12 3:26 PM
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NFPA 58 states that propane containers must be painted a heat reflective color. Most state regulatory agencies have their own rule addressing this particular issue but the national code declares that LP Gas containers must be painted a heat reflective color unless installed in an extremely cold environment.

So yes, you can paint it, but basically following the rule mentioned above. I have 4 ten gallon tanks, two came stock white, two came stock-off white. What i meant was do not paint it anything funky, or the color of your truck unless your truck is white! (i guess yellow is awefully reflective also no?) Haha


Cool, than I am safe with gloss white. I will be wrapping half the tank with a decorative wrap but it will be mostly white. I always wondered if the food trucks that have their tanks mounted in the rear like "The Fish Box" truck, have an issue with direct sun and heating up the tank. I do not want to surround my tank with a box as I want to display the vinyl wrap but I think I will have a retractable sun shade on the truck rear for sunny days.

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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Tue, 01/31/12 5:06 PM
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I feel you with the building a cage around the tank. I dont want to build anymore if i don't have too. lol the retractable sun shade is a good idea.

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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Tue, 01/31/12 10:29 PM
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my trailer is black and I've never had a problem with them in the heat. It gets pretty hot here and very humid, like 120 hot outside. I am enclosing my generator as well, so I rather have matching boxes. lol  I will have vents on all sides and will only have half the back covered so there is plenty of ventilation. I'm trying to extend my muffler but not sure how to go about it.  Will post a thread on it in hopes of getting some good advice

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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Wed, 02/1/12 5:22 PM
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RiceWorks
NFPA 58 states that propane containers must be painted a heat reflective color. Most state regulatory agencies have their own rule addressing this particular issue

 
The NFPA code is a suggested code to help small cities write their own local code. It has no teeth. And they expand their attempted reach every year. And each year it gets more prohibitive than the year before. In fact they are now writing codes against "To Much Stuff". And that is the title of their recent article claiming that cities should write laws against hoarding.
 
You only have to worry about rule number one "WHAT YOUR LOCAL HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND FIRE DEPARTMENT" say you may or may not do.
 
I have painted propane tanks and I have some with my Dr of BBQ logo on them and no one has ever said a word.
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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Fri, 02/3/12 3:28 AM
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Hey Guys very interesting post I am also in the process of building a truck for a few months now taken me forever for research and locating parts. PM me if you guys need anything or websites to get faucets and sinks on. I just recently started tackling my plumbing finished up most of the water and now starting on the LP lines. I noticed that btm676 was using a conventional propane tank not sure if your state allows you to but double check with them out here in california they dont allow those on the trucks only on carts and trailers, for the trucks you have to use undermounted horizontal cylinders. I also found a local shop to build me one of those professional water connections to fill up tanks and steam tables in the trucks. here are photos of it installed  on my truck it also has a key to lock it, Let me know if you guys want one also I can get you guys in touch with the shop that made it for me. Ill try to also post pics of my water heater which I should be finishing up this weekend before I tackle the gas lines.

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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Fri, 02/3/12 10:19 AM
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How do I start a new thread can anyone please help?

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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Fri, 02/3/12 2:25 PM
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Go to the top of the 1st page and look on the left side click on start a new thread.

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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Fri, 02/3/12 2:30 PM
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Hey Guys very interesting post I am also in the process of building a truck for a few months now taken me forever for research and locating parts. PM me if you guys need anything or websites to get faucets and sinks on. I just recently started tackling my plumbing finished up most of the water and now starting on the LP lines. I noticed that btm676 was using a conventional propane tank not sure if your state allows you to but double check with them out here in california they dont allow those on the trucks only on carts and trailers, for the trucks you have to use undermounted horizontal cylinders. I also found a local shop to build me one of those professional water connections to fill up tanks and steam tables in the trucks. here are photos of it installed  on my truck it also has a key to lock it, Let me know if you guys want one also I can get you guys in touch with the shop that made it for me. Ill try to also post pics of my water heater which I should be finishing up this weekend before I tackle the gas lines.

 
Heck list the links you have used for what ever you bought for your build, that way the people that are starting a project down the road can follow your lead and expertise. The pictures look great post more LOL we love seeing how someone else got the job done. What kind of money did you spend on the your water connection?
Good job
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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Fri, 02/3/12 4:32 PM
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I mostly found people local I can connect anyone that wants almost anything to do with lunch trucks I started a year ago but spent most of my time locating parts and equipment.
 
The water connection cost me $200.00 with everything needed to install and all you do is connect the pex pipes in the back also comes with a quick hose disconnect. I had a fabrication shop build it for me and I installed it on the truck myself. I am also going to have them make me cabinet doors and the oven vent system. I also located fans and motors if any one is interested also cost me about $60.00 for the 12 volt motor and fan assembly.
Here is the email address and phone number to the person that built me the water connection .
(818) 246-2016 vpmachine yahoo.com is their email address also. You cen let them know Greg the lunch truck guy recommended me.
 
I am also going to go pick up faucets and sinks soon and can help you guys out with those also.
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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Fri, 02/3/12 5:35 PM
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Greg........I used to run movie trucks down there.
Armenco and Wyss catering trucks shoulld be a good source. For stock and
Custom parts.

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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Fri, 02/3/12 6:45 PM
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hey greg,
im interested in seeing the fan motor/assembly for 60 bucks.....
i have mine picked out after the good DR. or was it Chef purchased and gave a low down on it.....
but im always up for comparison shopping 

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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Mon, 02/6/12 2:47 AM
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Thanks Jack
other than the fabricating shop vp, I purchased my fryers from global industrial online they were the cheapest I would post the link But I am unable to list it yet since I have not reached 30 posts. I purchased my water heaater from zoro tools they were the cheapest place online. Faucets I purchased were from a local supplier since I had to make sure the faucets were lead free and nsf due to california regulations which I think is a good regulation. Ill ask and see if they ship and post their info as well   
 
thanks Chef bubba for the contacts I've inquired prices from one of the manufactureres and they were extremely high plus had a long wait time.  How was the movie industry when you were out here I hear it is tough to get your foot in the door?
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Here are pics of the fan motors VP is making me brackets to install, and once i cut openings in the truck  ill post up those pics once i get there. 

 
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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Mon, 02/6/12 9:48 AM
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I got my hood system late last week. Today I'm running to the store to pick up supplies to install it. I have pics coming. Its so cold up here to do anything for a long time outside. lol

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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Mon, 02/6/12 8:14 PM
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BTM676,
Can you share the name of the manufacture of the sink maybe the model#.
i love you sink just what i need for my build.
your truck looks great.

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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Mon, 02/6/12 9:37 PM
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www.landjimport.com is the company/wholesaler i got it from.
Model # LJ1014-3-11D

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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Mon, 02/6/12 9:38 PM
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O thank you by the way! lol

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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Tue, 02/7/12 6:47 PM
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ANother site that you may want to see  "buildafoodtruck" 

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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Tue, 02/7/12 7:00 PM
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Mitch here is the link http://buildafoodtruck.com/
BUT........ Most any site that promises big bucks for anything is usually a scam. Not saying this site is just saying if it starts like this be careful.
 WE WILL SHOW YOU EVERY STEP THAT YOU REQUIRE TO BUILD A HOT DOG TRUCK OF YOUR DREAMS,

 

                                                WITH LESS MONEY THEN YOU EVER DREAMED POSSIBLE !

                                               "I make a killing with my Lunch Truck"

 

"There Is Not A Man In America That Has Not At One Time Thought About Selling Food From A Hot Dog, Or Food Truck"

 

I am Living Proof Of the Money That can Be Made In The Food Truck Industry, Ask Me any Questions You May Have And I will Answer them With your Free 30 Minute Consultation when ordering Your E- Book.
 

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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Wed, 02/8/12 9:11 PM
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This week started off great. Last week i got the hood system in from hood mart. So on monday we installed it. It was real easy, i was shocked! I still have to wire it to a switch but i did plug it in to see it work. hahah love it!!!!

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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Wed, 02/8/12 9:36 PM
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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Wed, 02/8/12 9:39 PM
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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Wed, 02/8/12 10:24 PM
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FRESH MEAT !!!!!    i LOVED IT WHEN MY TRUCK WAS AT THIS STAGE :-D

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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Thu, 02/9/12 2:26 AM
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HEy BTM
 That vent hood Looks A.M.A.Z.I.N.G it's weird how just that makes the kitchen look like its on its way to completion. If you don't mind me asking how much did the cost you and does it run off 12v or 110v.

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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Thu, 02/9/12 10:48 AM
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I'm a chef for a living. Went to school for it and everything. So when it comes to cooking behind the line under pressure and long hours, I want everything as efficient as possible. So thats why i got this hood plus I really dont want to deal with the can/can't my state will allow if i got something other then this type of hood. I got the hood for $1,500 that included shipping all the duct work and fan, oh and lights. Its 120v and 5.8amp start up and half of that when its running. So... at start up its 696 watts and 350ish watts at running speed. Hope that helps.

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Re:Yet Another Food truck build! - Thu, 02/9/12 8:13 PM
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We are thinking of purchasing our waste/fresh water tank from these guys as well. Did you have any problems draining the waste water tank as it does not appear to be designed as one? `

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