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2003/06/19 17:57:51 (permalink)

bourbon

does anybody out there like a little bourbon whiskey?
what is your fav?
get you a little woodford reserve, and sip it slow
how do you like it served?
on ice?
a little water?
i figure if they worked that hard to create a flavor profile, then why
put anything in it?
it's like putting ketchup on french food
-it just isn't done
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    hawkeyejohn
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    RE: bourbon 2003/06/19 18:05:37 (permalink)
    Single barrel Jack Daniels with 1 or 2 ice cubes.
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    RE: bourbon 2003/06/19 18:15:41 (permalink)
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    Originally posted by hawkeyejohn

    Single barrel Jack Daniels with 1 or 2 ice cubes.

    I do not believe Jack Daniels is a bourbon. I think it is a sour mash. Kentucky folks might get upset with the finest whiskey in the world being called a bourbon.

    We had 35 Japanese pharmaceutical guys visit us in Knoxville a few years ago. The only word of English they knew was Jack Daniels and Dolly Parton.

    If you ever get a chance, visit Lynchburg TN. The distillery is as ancient as they advertise it. I do not things have changed in the last 100 years. Smells good too

    Paul E. Smith
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    mayor al
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    RE: bourbon 2003/06/19 18:16:07 (permalink)
    Maker's Mark is choice one... then Evan Walker.
    chilled, but no ice in the glass.
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    Sundancer7
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    RE: bourbon 2003/06/19 18:28:03 (permalink)
    My local liquor store sells some pretty expensive bourbons. I bought one because it was recommended by a friend. I paid close to $100. Perhaps I ain't that good of a taster. I agree with the Mayor, Makers mark is pretty good stuff.

    Jack Daniels is a little sweet for me.

    I generally stay with Canadian Club.

    Paul E. Smith
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    mayor al
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    RE: bourbon 2003/06/19 19:11:28 (permalink)
    Paul,
    Bardstown KY holds a tour of several of the local distilleries once a year. I don't know the cost, but you use a charter bus to go from Distillery to distillery a total of 7 to 9 on the tour. At each you watch the operation and get a sample or two of different types of Bourbon. It is my understanding that at the end of the tour a designated driver is required for each participant.
    BTW there ar 21 Bourbon distilleries within an hour of Bardstown.
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    A couple of years back a tanker truck was stolen out of a parking area near Louisville while the driver was out to lunch or something...the trailer tanker was filled with 12,000 gallons of Gin, heading for the Seagram's bottling facility in Lawrenceburg, Indiana. They recovered the truck and trailer the next day in rural Indiana...but it was empty. I have always wondered how someone could drain 12,000 gallons of gin in a day...What a hell of a martini!!
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    RE: bourbon 2003/06/19 19:46:10 (permalink)
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    Originally posted by Al-The Mayor-Bowen

    Paul,
    Bardstown KY holds a tour of several of the local distilleries once a year. I don't know the cost, but you use a charter bus to go from Distillery to distillery a total of 7 to 9 on the tour. At each you watch the operation and get a sample or two of different types of Bourbon. It is my understanding that at the end of the tour a designated driver is required for each participant.
    BTW there ar 21 Bourbon distilleries within an hour of Bardstown.
    and (one More)
    A couple of years back a tanker truck was stolen out of a parking area near Louisville while the driver was out to lunch or something...the trailer tanker was filled with 12,000 gallons of Gin, heading for the Seagram's bottling facility in Lawrenceburg, Indiana. They recovered the truck and trailer the next day in rural Indiana...but it was empty. I have always wondered how someone could drain 12,000 gallons of gin in a day...What a hell of a martini!!


    Either that or that had one hellova straw

    I wonder what they did with it

    I would like to do the tour you described. If you ever get the opportunity, go to Lynchburg. The tour is very good and they allow you to stick your nose over the fermentation vat. Please be aware, it ain't nothing fancy The CO2 will knock your socks off when you stick your nose over the fermentation tanks.

    Downtown Lynchburg is your kind of place. Great antiques and real downhome restaurants.

    Paul E. Smith
    Knoxville, TN
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    RE: bourbon 2003/06/19 21:35:27 (permalink)
    Technically, Jack Daniels is a "Tennessee" whiskey. George Dickel and Jack Daniels are the only two whiskeys (last I knew, anyway), that can carry the designation of Tennessee, due to the unique charcoal filtering process both distilleries use. I know Jack Daniels also calls itself a "sour mash"; I don't remember if George Dickel does or not.

    However, in my experience, when you are thoroughly enjoying your favorite adult beverage, you don't give a d**m what it is "technically".

    For me, it's Maker's Mark or Wild Turkey 101.

    I also agree with Sundance that anyone should take the tour in Lynchburg. It's a cool town, and the distillery tour is really interesting.

    I also ate at a diner downtown on the square of some small town not far from there; I read about it in one of the Stern's books. Can't remember the restaurant or the town, but I'll look for it and edit my post if I find it.
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    RE: bourbon 2003/06/19 23:16:46 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by Al-The Mayor-Bowen

    A couple of years back a tanker truck was stolen out of a parking area near Louisville while the driver was out to lunch or something...the trailer tanker was filled with 12,000 gallons of Gin, heading for the Seagram's bottling facility in Lawrenceburg, Indiana. They recovered the truck and trailer the next day in rural Indiana...but it was empty. I have always wondered how someone could drain 12,000 gallons of gin in a day...What a hell of a martini!!


    I'm thinking pool with a couple of dozen limes sliced up in it & me on one of those floating chaises with a big straw.
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    Michael Stern
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    RE: bourbon 2003/06/20 04:41:53 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by Bushie

    ...I also ate at a diner downtown on the square of some small town not far from there; I read about it in one of the Stern's books. Can't remember the restaurant or the town, but I'll look for it and edit my post if I find it.


    Maybe it was Pope's Cafe in Shelbyville? Great for meat-and-threes and pies, as I recall:



    ... and to answer Paul and Louise's original post, NO. I don't like a little bourbon. I like a lot. [|)][|)]
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    RE: bourbon 2003/06/20 07:11:03 (permalink)
    About 30 years ago, I won a trip to the Kentucky Derby and one of the highlights of the trip was a tour of the Maker's Mark distillery in a little town named Loretto. I have been a fan ever since.
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    RE: bourbon 2003/06/20 07:48:20 (permalink)
    Haven't had it in a while but when I do, Maker's Mark, or Jim Beam, straight-up, sippin'.
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    RE: bourbon 2003/06/20 07:58:47 (permalink)
    Sorry ... single malt scotch man here !!

    However I'll drink Bourbon if you are paying !!!
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    RE: bourbon 2003/06/20 08:02:30 (permalink)
    Talk about a dilemma- We bought three of the Special "Secretariat" Bottles of Maker's Mark, with the all black glass and gold lettering...done to honor the 30th aniversary of the Triple Crown performance... The thought was to have something special for a Derby Party next year, or later.. Well we took the bottles out to Keeneland Race Course on the day of the BlueGrass Stakes this Spring to have them autographed (in gold ink) by by the owner of the horse, the jockey who rode him in the big races, the President of Makers Mark, and the President of Keeneland Race Track ( it was a charitable special event with the signing part of a special day's program there). To make a long story short, the day turned out to be a 6 hour wait in line for the autographs...after which we we too worn down to enjoy the day of racing, so we went home. Now I have the three bottles ($40 each) but with them all signed I see them on Ebay at $100 or more apiece. My Dilemma-- Do I drink this stuff and throw away the collector's value? Or save them, and drink the Red Seal Bottles available to all? Here is one of the bottles in it's 'presigning stage'.
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    RE: bourbon 2003/06/20 08:05:31 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by Michael Stern


    Maybe it was Pope's Cafe in Shelbyville? Great for meat-and-threes and pies, as I recall:



    That's the place, Michael! Thanks!
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    RE: bourbon 2003/06/20 08:07:57 (permalink)
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    Originally posted by Al-The Mayor-Bowen

    Talk about a dilemma- We bought three of the Special "Secretariat" Bottles of Maker's Mark, with the all black glass and gold lettering...done to honor the 30th aniversary of the Triple Crown performance... The thought was to have something special for a Derby Party next year, or later.. Well we took the bottles out to Keeneland Race Course on the day of the BlueGrass Stakes this Spring to have them autographed (in gold ink) by by the owner of the horse, the jockey who rode him in the big races, the President of Makers Mark, and the President of Keeneland Race Track ( it was a charitable special event with the signing part of a special day's program there). To make a long story short, the day turned out to be a 6 hour wait in line for the autographs...after which we we too worn down to enjoy the day of racing, so we went home. Now I have the three bottles ($40 each) but with them all signed I see them on Ebay at $100 or more apiece. My Dilemma-- Do I drink this stuff and throw away the collector's value? Or save them, and drink the Red Seal Bottles available to all?



    Sell those suckers on ebay, Mr. Mayor, then use the proceeds to buy a whole case of the "red seal"!
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    RE: bourbon 2003/06/20 08:17:48 (permalink)
    Mr. Mayor: To hell with EBay, drink them now and regret tomorrow

    Besides its the week end and Ebay is too much work

    Paul E. Smith
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    RE: bourbon 2003/06/20 09:55:04 (permalink)
    I'm with the Mayor. Maker's Mark, but I do like a few cubes of clear ice.
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    RE: bourbon 2003/06/23 18:38:44 (permalink)
    Maker's Mark - Drink the 1st one, if you don't like it sell the 2nd one, keep the third just case you want to re-evaluate your first decision, or have friends over and let them enjoy.
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    RE: bourbon 2003/06/23 21:12:53 (permalink)
    I thought Woodford Reserve was nirvana until I bought a bottle of Buffalo Trace last month at the distillery in Frankfort, KY. Both are great sipping whiskeys!
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    RE: bourbon 2003/06/23 21:26:26 (permalink)
    BBQ I got a bottle of Woodford Reserve as a gift last year (political bribe) It is really goodstuff...but the price I see it selling for is a bit out of my normal range!
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    RE: bourbon 2003/06/23 22:01:10 (permalink)
    Dearfolk,
    I'm not usually a Bourbon drinker, but I realllllly loved the late, lamented Maker's Mark 101, which was produced a while back. One ounce neat with a side of ice water would make me purr for hours, akin to my response from a slice of Mrs. Bonner's Sweet Tater Pie.
    Nostalgically, Ort. Carlton in Athens, Georgia.
    P. S. I found my Maker's Mark 101 in a teeny liquor store in downtown Nashville. There may still be some old stock out there someplace, especially in places like Franklin and Columbia, Tennessee....
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    RE: bourbon 2003/06/24 21:03:47 (permalink)
    Mayor----interesting that the only way I obtained a bottle of Woodford Reserve was from a big winner at the 2000 Ky Derby. I don't really know what they cost! The $20 I paid for the Buffalo Trace was OK, but not a weekly expenditure. These two bourbons, not available in DM IA, plus Churchill are two reasons I'm better off to live in Iowa.
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    RE: bourbon 2003/06/24 23:03:49 (permalink)
    Woodfords Reserve & Marker's Mark for Kentucky Bourbon
    Marker's Mark uses Winter Wheat in the Mash, replacing Rye
    that grain substition takes the "bite" out of thier end product.
    Makes an excellent Manhantan
    If you don't know what I mean by "Bite" buy a small pt of Rye Whiskey, That's BITE
    George Dickel for Tennessee Whiskey, far smoother than Jack's
    Dickel's Old #8 from Tullahoma, maybe 20 miles from Daniel's Old #7 in Lynchburg
    I've yet to try Knob Creek, but it's on the list ...
    All Neat, straight up
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    RE: bourbon 2003/06/25 00:27:24 (permalink)
    Tullahoma TN is also the home of Grannie's Catfish Restaurant. A worthy place to go for fresh ( out of the pond on the property) whiskerfish.

    We take visitors to the Jim Beam Distillery for a 'place to go' ...good AV tour of the place, nice gift shop, and just across the road from the Bernhiem Forest and Nature Preserve, one of Kentucky best flora display areas.
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    RE: bourbon 2003/06/25 08:33:27 (permalink)
    Are you sure it wasn't Mary Bobo's, which is right in Lynchburg?
    quote:
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    quote:
    Originally posted by Michael Stern


    Maybe it was Pope's Cafe in Shelbyville? Great for meat-and-threes and pies, as I recall:



    That's the place, Michael! Thanks!
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    RE: bourbon 2003/06/25 09:37:35 (permalink)
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    Are you sure it wasn't Mary Bobo's, which is right in Lynchburg?



    No, I didn't eat in Lynchburg. It was a cold, drizzly day, and taking that tour and then not being able to buy a "sample" anywhere made me head back toward Nashville.

    Next time I'm back, though, I'll be happy to try Mary Bobo's, if you recommend it.
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    RE: bourbon 2003/06/25 09:51:31 (permalink)
    Sure, by all means check it out if you pass through that way again. It's Southern boarding house style, lunch only I think. I believe JD shows up as a backdrop in one or two of the dishes. Check out the early 90s edition of Roadfood for a write-up.
    quote:
    Originally posted by Bushie

    quote:
    Originally posted by jpatweb

    Are you sure it wasn't Mary Bobo's, which is right in Lynchburg?



    No, I didn't eat in Lynchburg. It was a cold, drizzly day, and taking that tour and then not being able to buy a "sample" anywhere made me head back toward Nashville.

    Next time I'm back, though, I'll be happy to try Mary Bobo's, if you recommend it.
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    RE: bourbon 2003/11/02 14:41:37 (permalink)
    have any of you bourbon sippers tried "W. L. Weller" 19 yr. old?
    we got a bottle for my in-laws for thier anniversary, but they are 600 miles away....and we wonder if it is as good as they say?
    they seem pleased.....it had difficulty getting there from here because we found it was unlawful to ship booze in many states
    [ours included] i wonder how the internet shops get around this regulation?
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    RE: bourbon 2003/11/02 15:47:30 (permalink)
    Makers Mark---neat---or occasioanally in a Sazjarac. But im really fan of good single malt IRISH,thought scotch is fine too! and KEEP the Secratariot ,Al and enjoy! Have friend with one bottle wjo wishes hed gotten more.
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